gtfo newfag

>>688826639
Take your religion and shove it where it belongs, up your ass with all your other shit Christfag

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>>688826639

I'm already a seminarian for the Roman Catholic Church.

>>688826827
7 year user, actually.

>>688827193
Um, not Cathlic....... you are aware that the pope changes the Catholic bible as he pleases, right? Also, the bible tells us call no other man "Father" (Besides our father and our father which is in heaven)

>>688827394

ooh, you're so smart.

Prove what you said, and tell me why there are more versions of the Bible around than Microsoft Windows.

>>688827624
There are more because many people want wealth and use religion to obtain said wealth.. Ex. Pope: Uh, yeah, god done told me to take yall's money... so.... yall better listen to god..

My God is a loving God, and do your research, KJV was made after a team of scholars translated the actual bible from the jewish language.

>>688826639
Oh, you poor lost soul. Please turn to Islam as soon as you can, and stop trying to cause more people to stray from the path.

>>688828865
There is no "Peaceful" god that would encourage flying planes into buildings. Now the Lord rebuke you. Begone

>>688829114
You blasphemous sinner; who are you to speak on behalf of the Lord?

>>688829367
I'm sorry? I don't speak of Allah.

>>688829367
And yes, I am a sinner... We all are

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>>688829573
I'm a Christian...Second year of seminary...
Don't claim to follow Christ, and then presume to speak for whom you follow.

>>688830429
Explain (Also, nice to see a brother going to semnary)

>>688830429
OH! YOU MEAN WHEN I SAID THE LORD REBUKE YOU, yeah, Bible tells us to do as such. When satan messes with you, you tell him "The Lord rebuketh you, get thee behind."

To the guy talking King James, you're wrong. It was translated from Latin, in accordance with King James's wishes. Therefore, it was translated, then re-translated, after having already been translated by the Catholics and, let's be real, there is a long history in the early Christian church of the Catholics conveniently leaving things out of the bible, or adding in books of specious origin....

If you want an English bible that's as accurate as possible, I believe the NIV is the closest translation, as it uses the original Greek texts.

BTW, I find it funny that, not only do you not know that the "Jewish language" is Hebrew, you don't know that a great deal of the new testament was really written in Greek...

Your God is a loving God, but you should probably get a bit firmer in the facts of your faith before trying to come into a den of wolves.

Do you think you're actually going to convert anyone by threatening eternal torture in hell for not believing in a retarded book? Atheists don't believe in hell, threatening us with it means nothing.

>>688826639
tits or GTFO

>>688830962
HELP, I'VE RUN OUT OF COMEBACKS AND I CAN'T GET UP. No, but seriously, thank you for the correction :)

>>688831128
You don't wanna see my tits....

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>>688826639
>This is not a "TrollThread"

>>688827938

yea, yea, money, wealth, Bible Inc. on NASDAQ, yea.

>>688828865

sorry, I've got no explosives

>>688829114

it was an insider job, but you're correct - neocons and jews don't have a Peaceful God

>>688830700

we're actually two in this thread.

>>688830987

only Protestants believe that the "retarded book" is everything.

Actual salvation comes from the Sacraments.

And the only valid Sacraments are in the Roman Catholic Church.

>>688826639
So you think I deserve eternal torment for my lack of belief?

>>688831232
Do tell, why do you think that the Pope's decisions should effect your life? Does that not then make him a god? Or do you not believe that there is only ONE God, our father which is in heaven.

It's funny because you're wrong.

When we die, there will be no angels to carry you to heaven, there will be no devils to drag you to hell.

You're going to suffer the same drab emptyness of death just like everyone else, and when you realize that, it'll crush you.

>>688831424
No, Of course not, but It will happen if you don't except Jesus in the end (I don't mean deathbed.)

>>688826639
http://www.answering-christianity.com/101_bible_contradictions.htm

>>688831567
What will be crushing is standing before God and hearing "Depart from me, I never knew you."

>>688826639
What is the path to heaven? Be specific.

a jewish god for jewish people, i'm not a jew, also jesus was a man, his brothers and sister would of vouched for this but sadly they are no longer with us

>>688831765
turn left at mcdonalds and about 3 miles up

>>688831765
Serving Jesus. Knowing that he is Lord and following his way of life. I'm not saying be perfect, or close to it, but serve him.

>>688831791
And the Bible says that Jews are his chosen people and in the end they will see that Christ is the messiah

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i love you all
peace be with you

>>688832018
How is man to know that there is not his creator?

>>688831868
How can i know he is lord when insufficient evidence has been provided to justify my belief?
Since those who look at a woman have committed adultery (Matt 5:28) and I have to kill adulterers (Levi 20:10) Should i kill everyone who watches porn or in a strip club?

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>>688832126
How is man to know that there is not leprechauns?

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>this whole thread

>>688832159
>>688832159
I mean obviously i would have to do that after confession so i would be without Sin, but i think i could manage the trip from Church to strip club without sinning.

>>688832159
No,no,no. :)
Um, Perhaps there is no evidence because you havn't opened your heart yet. Maybe this is your calling. Maybe you came to this thread because God was telling you to. Jesus is knocking at your heart right now. There is a time when it's too late. Take this opportunity. As I said, A Trial

>>688832399
Hey, don't hear the catholic. There is NO MAN without sin. No matter how many "HailMarys" You do.

>>688831594
Congratulations, you have a stronger moral compass than God.

>>688832432
I have opened my heart. Went to church for years, sought guidance. But i kept thinking "but theres no good evidence, and it works without that theory"

How should i kill my disobediant child? (Matthew 15:4-7)

I'll believe..... if Jesus personally comes down from heaven and let's me shit on him

>>688832565
"Isaiah 43:25I, I am He who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins."

John 20:21-23:

Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

How can there be no forgiveness on earth when jesus says that there can be?

>>688832645
Listen. I had faith issues too. Y'know who that is giving them to you? Satan. He wants to win you over and he is working on you as I am working on you, so the choice is yours Anon.

>>688832875
>>688832875
How can Satan affect my mind? Isnt that defying God-given free will? How can he cause these thoughts, mid-prayer and within a church?

>>688832865
I didn't say no forgivness. There is forgiveness, otherwise we would never see the light of heaven. I said there is no holy man

>>688832875
Also How do i kill my disobedient child?

>>688826639
OP is right guys. It's just about time to turn a new leaf.

>>688832988
Then if my sins are forgiven i am without sin and am free to stone adulterers am i not?

>>688832956
Because Satan is very much alive on this earth right now. In church is where he is most active, just like he is active now. He is scared he will lose you as a number count for hell and that is all you are to him. To God, you're unique, and worth the time of day.

>>688831969
what according to the Jewish writings, isnt that like mothers growing up telling their children they are special, but if i was to take up a religion it probably would be judaism not some doctored version created to keep morons happy and docile

>>688826639
I grew up a Christian. Then I grew up.

>>688833167
How do you know the mind of Satan and the mind of God? Is knowing the mind of God not like placing the ocean in a cup?

Why doesnt god place faith in my mind since the devil can plant rational thought?

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>>688832399
If you intend to kill them, then that's probably a sin \/('-' )\/

>>688833272
He dosn't place faith because you don't allow him to. Also, I don't claim to know the mind of either, I just know what the bible says.

>>688833167
Why, if God wants me so badly, doesnt he kill Satan?

I'm not religious anymore, my dad was a pentecostal minister and made me go to church till I was 18. The two things that do make me wonder is
1. If it's all made up, why did the apostles go to their deaths, many horribly, for something false?

2. Why do "tongues" as in speaking in tongues have the same goobly gook words to matter what part of the planet you are. It's weird, someone speaking in tongues in Virginia uses some of the same words as someone in Ghana. It's fucked up

>>688833399
I will go there free of intent and only kill them if i observe them breaking the laws

>>688833404
I say it now "I allow god to place faith within me"

>>688833406
Because if there was nothing but good, where would be our free will, also, he wants loyal servants,

if god is all knowing then how did his favourite angel deceive him and become so bad

Dear of hell is the worst motivation. You encourage cowards to join the ranks. The nonfaith just are turned away because if what you say about the fallen nature of man is true, then we should accept our just punishment. The thinking man is turned away because you are threatening and cajoling, which is enough, but you go a step further by using immaterial carrots and sticks. Logic dictates your position be ignored.

Your compassion campaign only works on the weak and powerless. This is the weakness of Catholics. Maybe you should man up and verse yourself in Calvinism.

>>688833467
1. If Christianity is true, why do Islamics blow themselves up for something false? If there is some kind of god, why did Socrates drink poison for the false position that there is none?
People can be wrong.
2. the language centre of the brain is the same for all humans, and babies make identical sounds and cries the world over before language.

>>688833504
I don't think you mean that Anon. Don't close this and go to porn, try serving him for a little while. I mean actually serving him, not half ass-ing it

The fact that your version of God believes "eternal punishment" is a suitable punishment for crimes is enough for me to know that I'd never worship him.

>>688833655
Free will my friend

>>688833532
There would be Neutral. There would be exceptional good (martyrs and self sacrificing heroes) and ordinary good.
Our free will is intact without evil.
And Satan altering my mind is fucking with free will.

>>688833167
Worth the time of day, until he sends you to hell for not loving him.
Or, to put this another way:
You live with a man, he tells you that he loves you, that you're unique, that he created the house you live in all for you. But if you don't love him back, he's going to lock you in the basement, where you'll be tortured for the rest of eternity in the worst ways imaginable.
In real life, we would call this man an abusive lunatic. You, apparently, call him God.

>>688833739
Mmm, God will destroy this earth and make a new. Where else is he supposed to put the evil?

>>688833718
I dont care what you think. I know i was sincere and god failed to place any faith in me.

>>688833913
Temporary punishment depending on the severity of the crime. No crime, no matter how big or small, deserves eternal fire.

>>688833886
Why should he allow the evil into heaven, then what better is heaven than earth. God can't look apon sin, therfore he can't allow the evil into his home.

>>688833913
A third earth.
Leave them on the old earth.
Heaven, since everyone will be on the new earth.
Mars.
Back in time.
Another solar system with an M-class planet.
A plane of existence that isnt a lake of fire, maybe one of grey mist
obliterate them

>>688833957
TRIAL, brother.... Jesus loves you. :)

>>688834059
Refusing to love or believe in God is evil, then?

>>688834137
IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE PUNISHMENT, TAKE THE REWARD!

>>688834059
If he cant look upon* sin then, how does he know we sin? If he can't look upon sin, then he isnt omniscient. If he cant look upon sin then how can he know what to forgive?

>>688826639
Fun facts:

>1. Christianity, Islam and Judaism basically all believe the same things and all endorse racism,sexism, homophobia, slavery and genocide.

>2. Unless the Babylonian gods are divine, the basic morality taught by these religions was already being taught without god. Most people don't want themselves or those they care about killed, hurt or robbed.

>3. There is little corroborating historical evidence jesus existed and none that he was magical. This is not to say jesus didn't exist, most historians acknowledge that Jesus was a real prophet. However, while most people don't have a historical record, someone who walked on water and made the blind see would have.

>4. While Jesus had a good message, it was not original or particularly insightful. Love thy neighbor is common sense and was a common theme for prophets at the time.

>5. Jesus did not renounce any part of the OT. Instead he endorsed it. Matthew 5:17-19

>6. According to the bible Jesus's reason for becoming man was the fulfillment of the OT prophecy and the forgiveness of sins. Without the OT there is no need for Jesus to be made man. Also, without the OT virtually nothing is a sin since what are sins are found in the OT.

>7. The bible codifies archaic morality of 2500 years ago. The fact that most Christians don't agree with the bible's teachings regarding slavery and women being property, speaks about mankind's ability to evolve morality and against religion's effectiveness at teaching it.

>8. Christianity, Judaism and Islam all make scientific claims which have been disproven. All of these religions have a history of persecuting those who disprove these claims.

>>688834201
No... Well..... I don't know, but look, He won't take you if you don't take him in.

>>688834264
Jesus can

>>688834253
No. If i dont agree with the punishment i choose to campaign against it. Im not a cowering slave to be bullied. I tell you, if i make it into heaven i shall not spend one moment of eternity in peace, but rather at war with God until the evil of Hell is removed.

if god was real
and it stupid even writing that line
then he was a child doing childish things
right now hes off at school or college like in toy story 3 and he's forgot about us, to busy plowing over god girls, and he's left us arguing over the most unworthy of god to lead us

>>688834169
>>688834169
I trialled for 20 years and he failed me. Why is god so bad at converting me? He had an entire childhood of me in his faith.

>>688834412
And so long as you have that mind set, God won't let you in. Try to rebel aginst him..... Try....