BREXIT BUMP

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>>688816030

Hello from the Netherlands. Please don't leave. We like trading with you. This will hurt us both.

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Do it for our glorious leader.

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>>688817873

If you all leave is bad for you anyway, so fuck it

>>688816030
yes leave so other countries might follow and the EU falls apart at the end.

>>688816030
Only queerfags vote leave.

>>688816030
*23st

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>>688816030
Leaving Eu won't fix all if any of the problems listed by anti-eu pushers.

It'll be a bitter disappointment.

>>688816030
>2016, hurr durr so cool to be right wing.

Anyone with as much as half a brain cell will vote to stay.

>>688818276
Proud to be a queerfag then

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Don't let these cretins tell you to remain

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>>688816030

unemployment rate is record low...lets fuck this up and leave

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You can take your EUSSR slave state, and shove it

>>688818402
>>688818276
I don't want to be cucked by force so yeah fuck your faggot eu relations

Farage is an exbanker...but he drinks beer so the undereducated wankers love him

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If you vote to stay In, then you are an unqualified and inexcusable TRAITOR to the sovereignty of this nation who is willing to sell us up the river for a bigger bank balance.
Sleep well then Judas.

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>>688818961
No you fucking moron. He's not a banker, he was never a banker. He never even worked in the financial sector.
Farage worked in the commodities industry as a metalworks trader, buying and selling materials.

Get your fucking facts right retard

>>688818961
Bit of a difference between being a 'banker' and working in a metal exchange...

90% of the brexit campaign financed by insurance, finance and hedgefund companies...because the EU regulations they can not rip off people badly as they used to

>>688819348
And the Remain campaign is funded by JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, The George Soros Foundation along with other multinational conglomerates and vested interests.
And let's not forget all those wonderful taxpayer-funded leaflets.

Farage is worst than an exbanker he was a speculant moron...but he drinks beer so the undereducated wankers love him

Why dont you file to become a US state?

Think of it like when your parents get old and move in with you.

>>688819592
Go home looser - https://www.tumblr.com/

>>688819582
I did some rough calculations and it was only £1 per taxpayer to receive the leaflet. I think that's a fair amount to pay to make sure everyone is educated on the matter.

OP here, didn't expect this thread to be alive. Vote leave if you value your country and don't want to stay the EU's bitch.

Thank you

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>>688819873
Clearly you don't care about the principle of our money being spent to tell us what to do, how to vote and how to think.
>educated
The word you're looking for is Propaganda

still more immigrant arriving from africa and asia every year than from EU but the majority of coloured/muslims claiming benefits and live in a paralel society so not taking jobs from britts...thatswhy workshy lazy britts love them

>>688819873
Not when it's a bias view and only promotes staying in the EU. People who have never even been in this country, are unelected, dictate to us how we run our country, whilst also taking our money.

>>688819995
American here. I hope you britbongs leave the grasp of a dying union.

75-80% of the young britts want stay but the majority of the old pensioners want to leave

>>688820203
as an american i also want to leave our dying union. I cant beleive the fuckign government is trying to let you faggots use whatever bathrooms you want just so you can molest children, disgusting!

leave supperters are less educated and olderfags

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>>688820696

The biggest reason for voting to stay, is because Boris wants us to leave.

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>>688816030
Give one reason other than immigration.

(Pro-tip: you can't)

11.7 million brittish households / out of 21 millions/ are on some kind of benefit , workshy benefitcheaters prefer UKIP and vote to leave

>>688820892
dey doo oo joo

>>688820892
And immigration isn't a good reason either

>>688820892
1. Trade without bullshit EU regulations
2. Not being forced to follow retarded EU commands
3. Get fucked faggot

>>688816030
As an American, I think you should definitely leave. It will be a political nightmare for the Obama administration if you leave the union and it will just start to destroy all of the bullshit trade agreements that have been setup by the US and the EU that are annihilating the world economy.

The UK needs to leave the EU, build its own tariff walls for their territories and the US needs to do the same. Then they can use the G7 to negotiate trade relations between specific countries in the EU and the US that don't have shit economies and prevent foreigners from streaming into their countries due to lack of manufacturing jobs EVERYWHERE.

Brexit and Trump are the only things that are going to start to put pressure on China. Facts.

>>688821002
That's because for the last 30 years, the cost of living has risen while wages haven't.

A sole semi-skilled worker can no longer afford to keep an average family of 4.

It has been an entire generation since the attitude of "we won't accept charity" was a strong british belief.

And now it's gone, it's lost forever. With no living wage paying job available to get out of the benefit trap.

And fucking believe it, this is all according to a plan.

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>>688820892
£350 million/week in membership fees
You could build a new hospital every week with that money

English people are very often ugly and stupid... Swedish friend of mine told me because the vikings taken the nice and left there the mongolidiots

>>688821157
Yorkshire has only one MP in Uk parliament. It isn't democratic for the people of Yorkshire if they only get to vote for one 600th of the people that make laws for Yorkshire. See how good an argument that is?

>>688821485
I don't know how the EU does anything if you have a room full of people that represents 250 languages. The US congress doesn't do anything and we all speak 1 language.

>>688821349
Lies. You know that there is a rebate? You know that UK revives money for infrastructure and farm subsidies and various other payments from EU. The 350 million is a lie.

>>688821265
He's right and also half of our fucking laws are because of the EU.

>>688821349

Incorrect.

>>688821334
A sole semi-skilled worker can no longer afford to keep an average family of 4."
yes i know but the same shit in US and Germany and the reason is China and the superrich who take every new jobs to asia thatswhy if UK leave just get worst

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were literally holding all the eurofags on our shoulders. the UK is actually rich as fuck but our dipshit gummiment is giving it away to india and europe is charging us a shit load to pay for their cheese and wine tax.

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>>688821349
>£350 million/week in membership fees
That is a mis-quoted load of bollocks that the Leave campaign have been screaming since this all began. If anything, it's more like £120M.

And if we do leave, the people are not going to see that money returned. The government are not going to announce a £1 (or whatever) per week reduction in out taxes.

They'll keep that money and spend it on another fucking train.

Implying anything here will make a difference, the government is corrupt anyway, you will see a lot of people want to leave and we will end up staying in the EU no matter what.

>>688821655

how about because our pussy of a PM didnt want to upset the EU and ask for disaster recovery funds when people where loosing their homes due to floods?

how about the fact that other countries like greece and romania have already been fucked up by joining the EU?

>>688821485
Spoken like a true Yorkshireman. Have you ever actually left your home town?

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>>688821977
Even if the figure is wrong, you do know that we get back less than half of what we pay in right?
I'm not fucking with you - check the ONS, check the HoC library.
And they say we can only spend the money in a certain way - 10% on this, 25% on that and so on.

It's like if you loan your friend £20, then he only gives you back £10 and says "You can only spend that on food."

Still sound like a good deal?

>>688821605
And still it works. Isn't it amazing? Whether the poclicies are good is another question.

>>688822022
this guy knows

like during the election, everybody wanted fuckin UKIP and we did not get.

>>688822126
Exactly, UKIP were supposedly in the lead for the entire run, and what they end up getting one seat in a shitty Essex town. same thing happened with Scotland leaving, there was a lot of people for the leave and not many people against them, and look they ended up staying.

>>688816030
Fuck the EU Now is the time for USA UK & RUSSIA to form a new UNION. We could run this planet well.

>>688822353
its all fucked dude.

id move to america but theyre fucking weird and cant speak normally.

Dude even after the rebate it's not worth selling our sovriegnty for, fuck, I don't care if in the short term we start losing money, because the way we're going in 20 years we'll be as fucked as greece if we stay in the eu anyway.

>>688821349
you got the same leaflet through your door as me today didn't you :)

>>688822508
Fuck your blood pudding limey

>>688821888
nope ..GB is gettting weak its dept 4 times bigger then annual GDP it is almost world record among OECD

>>688821977

ah! £120M thats no big deal then!

>>688822353
Scotland staying had nothing to do with the people.

Over half of Scotland is owned by 48 people. And they didn't want to leave because they were worried there would be a Mansion Tax or a redistribution of land. The 1% wanted to stay, so they stayed.

This whole Brexit bullshit is more an argument about which 1% win. We just graze in the fields.

>>688822508
Mate it is, but i am English and we cant speak for shit, half of our language is no longer English, the amount of slang and made up words for simple words, that with all the foreigners i dont even think English is English anymore.

>>688822682
its getting weak because were a dying corpse hooked up to the EU machine sucking all our money and power away.

>>688822101

All part of being a stronger continent. It costs every individual 26p a day, is that really such a massive fucking expense??

>>688822852
mixed in with a pakis voice yes

>Get immigrants
>pay bills
vs
Be the next Norway or Japan.

I hope you guys leave
- Denmark

also the austrian election was rigged, the socialist EU is openly against all right wing partis and democracy doesnt matter to them.

>>688822852
I live in the north, and work with a sarverner. He moved up here 5 years ago because he didn't want his kids growing up with that new London accent that has appeared.

>>688816030
Irishfag here, please vote leave, yer exchange rate will get fucked and i can afford to go to yer country and fuck yer women again.

lets get one thing straight.

even though most of the anons here are voting out, its fucking rigged and we will stay anyway.

>>688823298
True

>>688818055
Hello from the UK. Please leave also. We like Heineken. This will help us both.

>>688823255
yeah you know its bad when people leave the capital of a country because you dont like the way they speak in that capital. and yet people protest that England is the better speaking English country.

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refer to
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>>688821265
All the leave does is hurt the uk, as it makes trading with eu states harder. The Eu will hardly suffer when the uk leaves. You'll notice that in a few years

>>688822899

>All part of being a stronger continent

thats starting to show unease and slowly break down.

all we need is another global recession and it will fall.

>>688816030
Do it England. Not maintaining the british empire didnt marginalize you enough. Continue to make yourselves less and less relevant while we lol around in piles of money that used to be yours.

>>688823285
You could come over here, right now, get a job in an Irish bar and fuck all the students you like.

>>688820203
American here. Vote stay if you don't want 2008 again.

>>688822508
Dont come here, man. You're better off in canada.

Lmao like it matters if you britbongs leave. The EU would only get in trouble if Germany decides to leave it.

>>688818913

Amerifat detected. Fuck off dipshit.

>>688822738
Minus the amount paid back in project funding, it's £0.94 billion, that is 0.12% of the government spending.

I'm on the fence about the EU but the issues aren't economic.

>>688824060
>implying that the EU relies solely on Germany

mate the UK is wealthy as fuck its just that the UK never sees that money if we leave it will start to be shown.

>>688823956
For American's it's always about money, who cares about people.

>>688819164

'Sovereignty'

Yeah, that sovereignty that's soooo important to nobody except those in power. GTFO of Britain you fat mongol EDL poofter.

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>>688821265
>>688820196
Etc.

pretty hilarious coming from a country that still considers its own empire, colonialism, occupation justifiable, and controls how other sovereign nations spend their money and think and act.

Oh but it's different when youre on top isn't it?

>>688823626
yeah, yeah. I take it you live in the UK then. And have not travelled abroad. I live in France, and work in Germany and Italy and Belgium and Austria, for a UK company - I am british and lived in Uk for thrirtyfive years until I moved here ten years ago. The Eu is strong, and powerful, and united - it is only little englanders and people who have not travelled, who think the EU is breaking apart.

>>688824354
Brits don't want an "ever closer union" and don't want a federation. Other European countries think they can change that but they really can't, it would take decades.

>>688824060
Exactly.
Britbongistan is just along for the ride anyway. EU depends on UK for nothing.

>>688819671

The word you're struggling to spell is 'Loser' you fucking yank loser.

>>688824322
You are so unbelievably stupid, holy crap.

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>>688816030
Germany here

plx get the fuck out of the our EU

All that time we waited that Gott strafe England but now they do it themself just beautiful

in 10 years they will beg us to get back and we will allow it but this time no unfair benefits

I'm not even in the UK, but it seems like you lot are propping up a socialist fantasy on the mainland financially. In the mean time, States that remained independent so they didn't find themselves in a similar situation are prosperous.

>>688816030
actually, it is really important to vote remain on the 23rd. In poll after poll the figures for leave and remain are about equal - 43-35% on both sides, with 15-10% unsure or undecided. But in all polls if you ask how likely a person is to vote, it is the LEave voters who are most determined to vote. So a minority, mostly older and less educated, are determined to vote, but a younger, more educated group who want to remain are less likely to vote - we could end up with the right wing pensioners determining the future for liberal teenagers. Get out and vote Remain.

American here. I don't care. Do what you want, live with the consequences. Seems like these days you're fucked either way. Good to know my country isn't the only fucked country on this planet.

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>>688824514

That guy has one of the most slapable faces ever.

Fuck the EU, and the euro. Both of which are failing spectacularly. Won't be long till there's more bailouts needed, and britain, the 5th largest econemy and biggest contributor to the EU will come to the rescue again. Oh, and fuck the pig fucking david cameron. The EU needs britain far more than we need them. The EU will fall

>>688824654
and what unfair benefits does britain receive?

>>688824400
Good point.
Lets see England apply their thoughts on the essential dignity of sovereign individualism to breaking up the U.K first.

Oh, whats that? You're stronger together?
You dont say.

>>688816030
>people are actually voting leaving
never studied economics I assume

>>688823826

This. English are a brutally stupid fucking people who while bitching about 'unelected lawmakers' and 'concentration of power = bad' want to put all the power back in the hands of the hundreds of unelected lawmakers in the UK.

'Hurrrdurrr forrins!'
Foreigners haven't ruined England, the English have time and again, let them leave and go even further down the toilet.

>>688824654
Superkrautistan in it to win it.

>>688824322

Top kek, you think Boris and friends are going to invest in the public? Brexiteers are so. Fucking. Stupid!

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>>688821157

1. Who ever made that one only proves that Brexiters are halfwits. Srsly.

2. There are no EU Laws. EU guidelines are implemented into national laws by each country. The countries parliaments vote on whether to pass those laws or not.

>>688824681
Im 18. I've spoken to about 20 people my age about it. 19 are certainly voting leave. 1 was undecided. You're post, seeing as you want to stay says something. You think you're above everyone who's in the working class. Go hang yourself you loyalist cunt

>>688824861
ayyy we got an expert over here

>>688824658
such as? Example please?

>>688825187
Well investing it in anything other than euro bailouts and helping shitty countries that have not ever, and never will help us.

>>688824962
>>688824400
These dudes have a very good point.

>>688824420

and Greeks and the Polish and the Romanians and the Austrians and the Germans (actions speak louder than words! we all remember you guys printing of DMs when it looked like the euro was going to fail)

yes, I travel a lot and hear a lot of complaints about the EU

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>>688824861
Kekekek do you really believe that the uk is the biggest contributor? You are barely over Italy and if you leave the eu you will do nothing but hurt your economy, as it will lose a shit ton of trade partners from the eu.

>>688824618
anyone can call someone stupid, why dont you go look at the wealthiest countries in the world and see how close we are to germany

The only thing that really annoys me is immigration. Anybody with an EU passport can come to the UK, so in response to the government have made it harder for highly skilled workers to enter from abroad. Unless they meet a very specific list of shortages like "Linux driver developer". They must earn a minimum wage of £35k after a few years, for many careers that's only a realistic starting wage in London.

Basically it's a clusterfuck, because our government literally design policy in the pub.

>>688825242
Yes, and britain has argued against 72 of those imposed on us. And guess what? 72 were still implemented. We don't have a say on what we do with our country anymore

>>688816030
good, you're the only ones who do not seem to understand that the rich countries helping the less richer will ultimately lead to better things

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>>688816030
have fun becomming a marginalised isolated nation, even more so when Scotland leaves and what else may follow.

>>688825322

They'll 'invest it' in their Cayman accounts moron, but hey look at the scary foreigners they use to whip you English into line any time they want the knuckledragger BNP vote. You're all dumb enough to fall for it too.

>>688816030
>>688825548
Or option nr 2: become the newest state of the US, you guys are always sucking their dicks anyway

>>688825548
Looool yeah because everyone gives a fuck about scotland

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>>688824861

>biggest contributor to the EU

Ever heard of UK rebate, you mouthbreather?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_rebate

The EU since the beginning caught you a lot of slack.

>>688825562
What self-respecting Brit doesn't have a Cayman Island account?

>>688825452

House of Lords makes laws the public don't want, same with Westminster. So really your point is retarded.

>>688825651
the mighty empire of england!, all 406.9/km2 of it

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>>688824861
>biggest contributor to the EU
ever heard of Germany.

>>688825251
I don't know what you mean by "loyalist" but I am from a working class background. And I have worked in the UK, and for UK companies throughout the EU. I now live in France, but I was born and brought up and lived in UK for 35 years. And I am educated, and well travelled, and like the vast majority of educated and well travelled people, I can see how the UKIPpers are trading on fear and the lack of education of the working class to build up support. they are telling lies, which it seems your friends believe, because there are no good reasons to Leave. I don't think myself superior, but I do think that the young working class are being manipulated, as usual, by the old conservative, rich. Ian Duncan Smith and Micheal Gove and Boris Johnson, and Rupert Murdoch do not have your best interests at heart. The arguments about immigrants and sovereignty are false, and appeal to racism and a false national pride. Give me an argument for leaving that you really believe, and we shall see how it stands up to the facts.

The english will forever be known as the scum of Europe after this, only care about themselves, not even the other people in their UK. It's one thing to not support the EU, it's another to embrace such utter shite people as boris or farage in the process

>>688818402
Bu...bu...but the NHS! Its being destroyed by the EU! So are public services! It's absolutely nothing to do with Tory cuts, its da ebil eu

Vote leave if you want to take back control, start our own trade deals and keep our 350 million a week
Vote stay if you want unelected officials with there own motives to run our country and if you want to keep paying for shit-tier country's and their banks bail out money

public services being clogged by the EU? even if that were remotely true, do you really think the people who will come to power after you leave (the hardline tories) will make it better?

>>688826278
ya that 350m was a lie btw

>>688825954
Which once controlled majority of the world, probably including whatever shit country you're from

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>>688825548
By staying in the EU Scotland will gain independence. Why else do you think Sturgeon is on the remain campaign? Any educated individual that can see through fucking lies and scaremongering from the remain campaign will be voting out on the 23rd

>>688826448
>once
hit the nail on the head there, I wonder what will happen when the queen dies, since that's all that is symbolically holding together the commonwealth nations

>>688826278
Also if you stay Cameron's going to tell us what deal we got and since it'll be to late we'll get fucked by these greedy corporations and their bitch mps also we'llprobably start to use the euro

>>688826567

yea, never had a queen die before! i mean we have only ever had one!

>>688826261
>only care about themselves
Nothing wrong with that, seems to work pretty well for America. Why the fuck do wealthy countries have to give a rat fuck about poor ones? And let's face it, none of you are as prosperous as the US, even with its 19 trillion dollar deficit.

>>688824861
UK is currently fifth largest economy largely because of its huge financial sector. there is reason to believe that a large portion of this will leave UK if Uk exits. It is not difficult to move to Frankfurt or Paris, and take the money threr, thus staying in the EU, and not having to go through interstate boundries. As it is the Uk refusal to use the Euro has allowed Frankfurt and Paris to expand, and do a great deal more business - and as Oil is being increasingly traded in Euro prices, those financial centres will grow. UK manufacturing and exports are declining, and will continue to do so, faster if they need Eu border controls, and tarrifs. Leave is suicide.

It's funny how almost all the brexit people I know have never been outside the British Isles

>>688826567
Price Charles will be king, and do the exact same fucking job you degenerate

>>688818406
The political right is divided about brexit. I'm definitely no libtard but I can see that:

>We're either leaving/getting kicked out of the EEA or we're not.

>If we're allowed to stay, we'll have to become part of the Schengen/EFTA area. Freedom of movement is an ESSENTIAL part of what keeps the EEA beneficial and fair for everyone. It prevents the larger economies from undercutting the smaller ones, and the smaller ones from exploiting their workforce. They will not budge on this, if you've convinced yourself they will then you're deluded; there isn't a non-EU, non-Schengen EEA state and there never will be.

>If we're kicked out (highly likely, we're only in it due to our EU membership and have not applied as an independent state) or we leave of our own volition, the price of EU goods will skyrocket due to import duties. This doesn't benefit me, I really don't see how you can think it benefits you either. The price of the pound will see a dramatic drop as foreign investment plummets, particularly from the American financial services sector. We're a trading nation, always have been. Cutting ourselves off from the largest trading zone in the world today is fucking retarded.

In addition to being Schengen, which will see a hike in immigration and LESS border control than we currently have (Switzerland has a higher immigration count than us, for instance) we'll still be paying towards the EU (Switzerland as a model pays 60% of what we do, per capita, but post brexit Britain will be something of an economic uncertainty, so expect to pay more). We'll also have to adopt the same legislation you retards are currently mouthing off about (god knows why, it benefits you) again due to it being an integral part of the EEA's functionality.

If you're a brexit fag, you're literally voting for:

a: less border control, less control over legislation, slightly lower fees

or

b: isolationism, recession

>>688825451
but Uk also has a large percentage of non EU immigration - which won't change is Exit. Also, Why would Uk stop immigrants from EU, eho are contributing to our economy - vastly more than UK born people? The problems with housing, NHS etc are not caused by immigrants - the immigrants form 25% of NHS staff! it is due to Consservative Austerity - unnecessay. It is due to bad public housing programms that the Tories did not build and the tory light new labour did not build, and hey, the tory liberals and tories did not build over the last thirty years. It is Thatcher's legacy.

>>688826660
Not him.
you're the only western country that still has an enormous amount of royalists. So you're right, it will go on, and it's quite sad really

>>688826974
I've travelled all of Asia, parts of Russia, and most of Europe. I'm voting leave

>>688821349
>implying that they would
Why do people assume that any of the money not spent in the EU would go to the ordinary people, building hospitals or schools? Its incredibly naive.

How about we start charging companies proper tax and cracking down on arseholes who live here but bank offshore and pay no tax? This entire EU thing is just a smokescreen to keep the voting idiots distracted.

>>688827176
this, what have the tories ever done for normal working people

>>688826805
>UK is currently fifth largest economy largely because of its huge financial sector.

This faggot gets it. We brexit, foreign investment plummets. Large investment banking firms such as BNYM perform their own brexit, leaving Canary Wharf for another, more stable EU location.

Why the fuck would you want this?

>>688826721
well, apart from basic humanity, one reason to help the poor is because then everyone gets richer. another is that you are not universally hated and despised, as America now is. You think they are doing well, but they are prisoners in their own country - can't travel anywhere without people sneering at them and shooting them.

>>688822738
No, not really, you're looking at from an individual perspective, from a countrywide perspective 120mil is nothing.

>>688822353
>they didn't win in an election
>waaaaah

Also
>supposedly in the lead
Yes, because fucking election polls are something you should put faith in/get narked about when they're wrong.

>>688827150
why?

>>688827081
finally someone who gets it. Actually the isolationist part has strangely become a selling point among some people, how those manage to even got through high school is beyond me since that would mean the death of the UK

>>688822852
>implying language doesn't change fucking constantly anyway
Idiot.

>>688816030
German here, please leave, we don't fucking need you, you need is, will love to see your niggers gettig fucked

>>688823053
>get immigrants
>who pay taxes, buy goods and services
>then go home before they get old and use up all the money they ever paid in and then some

>>688827400
it is £0.89 per person per week. In return for stability, human rights, workers rights, travel rights, free trade, good relations with other countries, and access to europe wide cooperation on economic environmental and social goals. it is cheap.

>>688822022
>if an election doesn't go the way I think it should its rigged

>>688822852
>against language evolving
holy shit let's go back to latin then

>>688818276
Proud

Polandfag here. If I could vote, I'd vote for leave.

Poland was forced to be a part of the Eastern block/Warsaw pact (well, Yalta fucked us over, thanks Churchill and Roosevelt) against their will for over 50 years. I understand what we're going through.

Fuck the EU and fuck the monarchy, they're both hyperbureaucratised money drains that exist just for the pageantry and tourism

>>688827374
I was speaking as an American. And we're doing pretty fucking well brother. I've been all over the world and the one thing I see most is the fact that most people would give their left testicle to immigrate here. So when your countries fill up with all the Muslim riff raff and there's a mosque on every block, bring your proud asses here bc trump is going to make my country great again and we'll be happy to have any hard working European when we close our borders to the shitskins. Believe that brother.

>>688827649
this, they will only become closer to america if they leave. becoming some sort of new Israel and hated by the rest of the world

>>688822353
>>688822126
Ukip was never in the lead - they were at best beating the Lib Dems. They never took the lead over labout or the tories - except in a couple of places, were the division was very tight, and they didn't get the votes on the night. Now they did get about the same numer of votes nationwide as the Lib Dems, and if we had proportional representative system they would have got more seats, but fewer than 11% wanted them, or will ever want them.

>>688827804
>workers right

increased retirment age, but at least there is the pention. oh! wait! look at TATAR and how they are getting fucked over. damn wish they where owned by a foreign backer OH WAIT there the ones trying to fuck the workers out of their pensions!

>>688827958
>Poland
oh how I would love to see how your country would be doing right now if it wasn't for EU money

>>688828052
let me guess, you're in the military?

>>688818055
>>688823408
gonna be interesting to see what happens to companies like Unilever and RDS if the UK leaves. I know they're effectively set up as two different companies (plc in UK and N.V. in the Netherlands) but I imagine it will make distributing assets much more difficult than it is today

>>688827958
If there's a single nation that's benefited the most from being part of the EU, it's Poland. Hence your landslide support polls for the EU, more than any other member state in fact.

You are literally retarded if you think the EU doesn't benefit Poland. Literally fucking retarded. I can't stress enough how fucking braindead you would need to be to not see that.

>>688827958
>poland
>complaining about EU
>literal shithole belarus style without EU support
fucking kek, m8

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We need a Northern Alliance, not a European Union. Britain, Ireland, Holland, Germany, Scandi - we are from the same stock, we share the same ancient language and religion. We are all hard working and modest. You know it makes sense.

>>688818055
People outside the EU can trade with people in the EU. Just look in your fucking supermarkets or whatever and you'll see japanese cameras, chinese toys etc. Raw resources like steel and lithium are traded similarly.

>>688822535
a> apart from a talking point by the Kippers, what do you mean by sovreignity (and by the way, you are wrong about this) b> how could we be like Greece, at any time - totally different historical and current setup, totally different natural resources and infrastructure. Only way we end up like Greece is if we are isolated and run by neoliberal Tories - oh yeah, if we vote leave....

>>688816030
Nobody cares about your yurofag bullshit

>>688828306
>being this unable to into tarrifs and the benefits of a common market

>>688827958
Holy shit you're retarded, if ever there was a nation that has benefited more greatly from joining the EU...

>>688828127
I'm not Polish but I would assume they'd be fine considering their industries and exports have been increasing over the last couple of years. You know, unlike Greece.

>>688824911

Quite a few, but I will state one of the most obvious ones for an example: We got to keep the pound. If we left and tried to rejoin, we would have to take the Euro.

>>688828512
yeah and how do you think that happened?

>>688825251
Go fuck yourself, maybe if you worked harder than the Eastern Europeans this wouldn't be a problem, want to blame someone? Blame the companies who realised that they make better workers than you do fuckhead.

>>688824545
actually a lot of brits do want closer union... speak for your small minded self, mate.

>>688828463
Common market acts as a barrier to the world market. Tariffs are artificially high thanks to the EU.

>>688828260
Why would it be interesting? You don't sound half as braindead as most people in this thread, surely you can figure out (at least in Unilevers case)

>the prices will rise

That's it. Finito. They wont stop selling, they'll just hike up prices to offset losses.

Divided amongst our population, each person pays less than a pound a week towards the EU. You'd be barmy to think the price hike of your weekly shop won't dwarf that when we leave.

>>688827804
Britain has always been, and currently is, at the forfront of human rights etc, the eu just chucks in useless shit that gets in the way for businesess

>>688825377

Also USA has stated that the UK would go to the "bottom of the pile" in terms of new trade deals if we left... :/

>>688828646
Economics major here, that is horseshit. If anything it might seem that way because goods coming into Europe have to check certain standards criteria. Without the common market you'd be flooded with cheap foreign stuff that poisons you

>>688828646
>Common market acts as a barrier to the world market
yes, why is this a bad thing to the eu markets if they keep their local industry competitive to stand up to china or the US?
>Tariffs are artificially high thanks to the EU.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Customs_Union are you literally retarded

>>688828809
haaaaaaa, keep living in that dreamworld

>>688828052
I think that most Europeans, who see your gawking and gauche countrymen as tourists, would not want to move to a neofascist shithole with no healthcare and a gun problem. America Great again? like the Mccarthy era, or the Prohibition age, or are you bringing back Jim Crow, beating up the unions and putting black people in chains? Just which great era are you returning to? Regan? Try his tax regime....

>>688828817
Who gives a fuck what some jumped up nigger said

>>688828127
I don't currently reside in Poland and I haven't visited for over 4 years, can't say how things are right now

>oh how I would love to see how your country would be doing right now if it wasn't for EU money

Learn history. All of Europe was a shithole after WW2 (save for Sweden, Switzerland, Ireland and other "neutral" countries).

The difference is, eastern block countries didn't have American money ("Marshall's plan", look it up) to help them rebuild after WW2.

Instead we were taught socialism and heavy industry equipment.

And UK's to blame. They had absolutely no problem giving us away to the Russkies in 1945.

>>688828089
That's the governments fault for not regulating that shit better.
Also nice to see that you can cherry pick one negative, enjoy your 60 hour working week if we leave.

>>688828931
That's not true though. Goods have to abide by the regulations of the country they enter regardless of EU or not. EU regulations are ridiculously shit.

>>688829096
making a great case there son, I'm happy to share voting rights with you

>>688828809
yeah, I trust Cameron and IDS to right a new human rights bill. maybe they could ATOS to help draft it.

>>688827958
>Britain leaves EU
>sends all the Poles packing
>Polish economy tanks as the market is flooded with workers and all the payments back home dry up
Only positive would be the influx of hot women I guess.

>Fuck the monarchy
I whole heartedly agree. However, they pull in more idiot tourist money than they cost.
The only thing I'd eliminate is the amount of scraping and bowing afforded to them for being born.

>>688828977
They don't keep the industry competitive, they keep them complacent. Removing competition from other countries stifles innovation and progression.

>>688829119

tada! so what is the point in being part of the EU?

>>688828809
I'd love to see that source since it would speak against all others

>>688828809
>forfront of human rights etc

What?

Are you fucking retarded?

Does colonization ring a bell to you? I take it history isn't your fucking strong suit so I'll let that one slide, how about the established classism that continues to this day? Who capped the weekly working hours, was it Britain?

Fuck me but the shite the average brexiter comes up with is hilarious sometimes.

>>688829215
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_market
can you read?

>>688829097
>No problem giving us away to the Russkies
Whilst its bad that the Russians took you over....what exactly do you think fucking Britain could have done about it?
Honestly, you dumb fuck, can't believe you tell others to learn history then come out with bullshit like that.

>>688828193
Nope. I have a fucking passport. I've been to the UK. Germany. France. Spain. Greece. And Hungary. And let's just say, I appreciate my country more these days. You talk about Americans being despised everywhere we go, I say you're a goddamn liar. I'll tell you what we have that you don't. Peace. Nothing more than the average social anxieties. Look at how many terrorist attacks have happened in Europe. Compare that to the US. Apparently we're doing something right. Chief among those things is the attitude that those motherfuckers aren't coming over here to do the shit they're doing in Germany and Sweden. They're going to use the eu like a goddamn red carpet to infest your countries. If Obama had his way, he'd try to join. He's about done here as president though. The Jews run shit here, so you better believe that we got 99 problems but Muslims ain't gonna be one.

>>688828809
HOLY SHIT you can't actually be an adult and believe such fairy tales. Have you ever read a newspaper that doesn't have more space on the paper for pictures than it does for words?

>>688829552
I can't be bothered to read links because you can't be bothered to put across your points with words.

>>688818402
I don't even live there and I can tell this true.

This like when Texas plays like it's going to succeed from the USA.

In this case you can actually do it if you want, but how the fuck it solves anything has yet to be determined. Nobody has a smart answer for it because it's a decision only endorsed by stupid people that can't follow the plot of why things are the way they are.

>>688829097
where do you reside if I may ask?

I'm glad the tories are in power but I despise them all. Voting out to:

Fuck the immigrants
Bring back British pride
Two fingers up at dodgy dave.

>>688829334
are you seriously defending the idea of unlimited free trade regardless of production standards, wage levels, production cost, production capabilities?

>>688829215
what do you mena by "eu regs are ridiculously shit"? seems a sweeping generalisation without any backup. I run a manufacturing business that exports to the EU - I have lots of regulations (UK and EU) to meet - none seem to me to be terribly bad. Exporting to the USA is a nightmare - they have regulations that are disguised as environmental protection but are just straight protectionism. (Lacey Act - thank Bush)

>>688829096
I care what the USTR state, since they'll be around long after Obama fucks off.

And guess who Obama was paraphrasing?

If you were less retarded you could google their stance on trading with in independent Britain but I don't give you that credit so here it is:

>They're not interested in negotiating trade agreements with individual nations
>for
>the
>next
>10
>years
>faggot

>>688828463
The WT'O rules remove over 3 quarters of tariffs auotomagically.But Canada got a deal with the EU to make 96% of trade traiff free. If Canada can, Britain can.

>>688829633
you make a great case for me in fact.
a divided europe is weak against terrorism and is destined to be a future warzone. As for the rest of you're statement; utter gobbledigook

>>688828817
The lameduck nigger who's leaving the job said that. The next president, President Trump will put us to the front of the queue

>>688828287
>>688828295
>>688828467

BUT HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHY IT'S A SHITHOLE?

Again. Learn history. The only reason it used to be a shithole till very recently is because Churchill decided "since USSR troops have already invaded Nazi-occupied Poland, might aswell give it to them... they speak kinda similiar and they both love vodka, sure they'll get along".
Soviets robbed their constituent countries for devades. Communism ultimately failed.

And the Germans? Not even a fucking "I'm sorry" or "oh, here are your war reparations".

So if you think about it, Poland is right where it should be, considering circumstances.

And you just can't undermine highly skilled, cheap work force with ridiculously strong work ethic.
So it's not like they don't bring anything to the table

>>688829763
>British pride, what are you proud of? small little england will be all that remains when you leave

>>688829215
>EU regulations are ridiculously shit.

Which ones, specifically, and how do they apply to you?

>>688829633
actually. wrldwide caliphate is mandated by Islam, who Europe have been holding off for centuries. But now thye have planes, and mosques in New York and every other town, so good luck with that shit. they are coming for you.

>>688829650
Have you read Magna Carta or the English Bill of Rights 1689?

If you actually vote to remain, you're a fuckin faggot.

>>688830009
>this is the type of person who backs remain
cunt

>>688829334
this is literally what trump is saying with >the states should compete
any economic will tell you that while that's good on the short term it's terrible for the stability of the country and after a decade or so will cripple your economy

>1. right before brexit turn all your pounds into euros
>2. brexit happens
>3. pound drops in value
>4. trade your euros back to pounds
>5. ???
>6. Profit

EU regulations are nuts. Theres over 12,000 regulations on milk alone, and that's not to insure standards, that's cause the big corporates that run the EU (Check out the ERT or ESF) want lots of regulations to punish their competitors. Its the reason why Europe is shrinking as a percentage of world GDP and has stagnate to negative growth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsxkCF4W-NY

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>>688829969
>the Germans
>not sorry
wat

>>688829919
Well I'm sorry if English is too hard for you to comprehend. But if you ask me, Europe is already weak on terrorism and a war zone. The UK however has a very strong anti terrorism philosophy. They're better off leaving the union.

>>688829763
once again - it won't change anything to do with immigration. Syria is not an EU country. the black guys on the street didn't come from the EU - and they may have been born in britain. the immigration argument is a lie. and fucking your entire country and economy just to put two fingers up to dodgy dave (while endorsing even dodgier Boris, Ian Duncan Smith and Gove) is a piss poor idea.

>>688829822
You dont need fucking trade agreements you sop

And yeah its terrible for business too. Just look at what its done to Tate and Lyle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRvaIMGl-xw

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/11654668/Tate-and-Lyle-Sugars-Wed-be-better-off-outside-the-EU-unless-Cameron-secures-major-reforms.html

>>688829695
>The Union shall comprise a customs union which shall cover all trade in goods and which shall involve the prohibition between Member States of customs duties on imports and exports and of all
charges having equivalent effect, and the adoption of a common customs tariff in their relations with
third countries.
Just for you, honeybee

>>688829969
>Churchill decided "since USSR troops have already invaded Nazi-occupied Poland, might aswell give it to them..."

As opposed to what? The UK, and most of Europe for that matter had just come out of the most destructive, most expensive war fought in the history of our species. What the fuck do you expect them to do?

>war reparations

Both East and West Germany paid war reparations to Poland, you're literally retarded.

How does any of this nonsense support your argument that the EU doesn't greatly benefit Poland? Do you actually know how to support an argument?

>>688829919
>already weak
only because we don't work together enough, becoming small individual nations would be terrible

>>688829799
Not all regulations, but some are ridiculous like fruit having to be a certain shape and size otherwise they get thrown in the bin. Can't produce too much milk from cows or you have to throw the rest away to allow competition. And remember without EU there would still be regulations but they would be British regulations imposed by the british government for the good of the british economy and people. Remembers the bullshit about butter mountains fields of rotting fruit.

>>688829561
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potsdam_Conference

Well how about "No, Stalin, thanks, but I think our ALLIES (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain) would be better off communism-free. Oh and by the way it's not cool if you overtake half of Germany. Just move your troops from Europe cause it's awkward, kthx"?

Anything.

Churchill didn't give a shit. Americans obviously didn't get involved, but that's expected

>>688830173
It worked for Germany post WW2.

>>688829822
>>688829822
Currently the UK has no free trade with the US, neither does the EU. So Obama is saying nothing will change between the UK and US. Oh noes!

>>688830158
ah, the voice of reason and high argument. this is the sort who votes leave - ignorant, un educated, conned by the right wing, racist and little englander, who does not know he is a European, a citizen fo a great place, a human being, a person on a planet so small that it hardly registers ona a camera only half way tot he edge of this tiny solar system. A cunt.

>>688830364
>liberating ourselves and asserting our democratic soverignty = fucking your entire country and economy

how can you think like this? how do you dare show your face around, passionately advocating staying in like a fuckin cancerous woman.

literally die, I hate you.

>>688830189
ah but what if brexit does not and you get screwed...

>>688830129
>Have you read Magna Carta

I seriously doubt you have, and you obviously don't understand it's political backdrop or why it was drafted if you think this puts Britain "at the forfront (sic) of human rights"

God you're fucking retarded.

>>688829969
>shithole
it's well on it's way out of it though, it'll be one of the strongest economies in Europe sooner rather than later, but none of that is thanks to the EU, nooo ofc not. Fucking retard

>>688830439
Thanks, so countries in the EU pay an equivalent tariff when trading with those outside. But this incentivizes trade inside the EU even when it is more expensive like buying food from EU farms instead of African farms due to the tariffs leading to higher prices for no real reason.

>>688830537
Oh how cute, you think the USSR actually had to listen to anyone at that point.
>Churchill didn't give a shit
>He didn't care about COMMUNIST expansion
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You fucking idiot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Unthinkable

>>688830537
>hey Stalin, i know you´re literally a murderous dictator with an army of millions looking to expand his socialist empire, but mind if you don´t create a zone of influence in the territories you occupied
>sure thing, comrade, will do