>>688663662
Identity disorders are a spectrum....

No but autism is.

what about hermaphrodites

>>688663662
You are born male or female.

You make the conscious decision to identify as whatever you identify as, regardless of your personal feelings on whether you "should have" been born a certain way.

>>688664290
2 pieces of bread and a deformed penis?

>>688663662
Sex is uniform, m or f. Of course gender is a spectrum, i don't see why faggot hating faggots on here get so butthurt bc someone with a cock doesn't see themselves as a boy. Sex doesn't change so in a bigot virgins brain you can't have a different gender.

Sex is Male or Female. Gender is a construct and a spectrum.

>>688664290
They must choooose!
>>688664600
I don't have a problem with the gays it's a free country, they can choose to mess up their lives however they see fit

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Biologically there are two, with a very rare third but it's so uncommon it's not even worth considering its own gender. More of a birth defect. People can feel however they want but at the end of the day they were either born with guy parts or girl parts.

>>688664839
You can't just make up words and meanings because you're bored faggot. Go ruin some other social construct retard.

>>688664600
Gender is from the Latin genus, quite literally "biological classification".

It has nothing to do with your make believe fantasy identity brought on by mental illness, nor does it have anything to do with sexual preferences.

>>688664532
You can identify however you like, mutilate whatever parts of your body you want, and it still doesn't change the fact that you are the gender you are born as. Now you're just a mutilated/deformed/idiotic male or female who cries people don't understand his wunder fox-kin refrigerator gender. Life isn't tumblr, faggot.

>>688665095
I'm not the one who came up with it. Old ass empires and cultures and native American tribes did a ridiculously long time ago. Bigots will always be bigots and assdick hick/hillbilly retards on 4chan will always find something to complain about. You wanna keep your world as small as possible so you don't look at the real history.

There is male and female. You can identify as the opposite sex but most sane people will see you as the retard poofter you are.
>just wait for the faggots replying with "b-but there's lots of colors"

>>688663662
There are only two SEXES. Most languages have between three and seven GENDERS, gender is a linguistic term, not a biological one. I think it became a euphemism in either the 19th or mid-20th Century, when the mere word "sex" acquired a dirty connotation.

Everyone wants to be special without achieving anything special because that would require effort, so now I'm gender-gifted and you cis scum are mediocre at best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2f-NCRpMAU

>>688666886
What is this devil's palindrome post?

>>688665809
Sex and Gender mean male and female dipshit.
You're making up a meaning for a word that's been defined for millennia. You're a dumb faggot.

>>688666886
Dammmnnn. checkd

>>688663662

Of course gender is a spectrum.

There are big burly hyper masculine lumberjack men, and then there are weak faggy weebs who despite being of the male sex have few masculine traits. That's the spectrum.

No.

>>688664123
basically this.

>>688668776
There's male and female. I don't think you know what spectrum means

These days who gives a flying fuck what these people want to call them selves. The world is overpopulated as is, the more of these transfags, the less people breeding.

>>688669475

>reading comprehension
>you

>>688666237
There aren't lots of colors though, there is a spectrum of visible light, between about 300nm and 800nm wavelength, our eyes interpret these wavelengths differently to help us differentiate between things. Its all the same thing, just stretched or compressed, same goes for electromagnetic radiation that falls outside our visible spectrum. Colors are an idea used to help describe what we see, they exist only for communication.

>>688664532
You're just spitting a loosely based opinion, that has attempted to be a fact. The second a seed finally penetrates the egg, the sex is determined. Has the ability to change, generally does not

>>688667258
Beatiful, that's what it is.

>>688666396
They're the same word. Retards with nothing better to do with their lives are just trying to fag up the world as much as possible. Sad thing is it's working all too well.

>>688669747
You're just retarded a lumberjack man and a weak fag are both still men. There's no such thing as a 100% masculine man so your point makes no sense. Gender isn't a spectrum there's one or the other.

>>688667345
Sex:
either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

Gender:
the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).

buy a fucking dictionary.

>>688669901
>kyuuself
I wish they would

>>688666886
Symmetrical|lacirtemmyS

>>688664123
FPBP!

>>688670489
That's a good point. No other animal on the planet fags up the gender spectrum with this complete retard shit.

>>688670489
>the state of being male or female

If you have a dick then you're a man, if you have a vagina you're a girl. Where's the spectrum.

>>688666886
fuckin checked!

>>688670417

>There's no such thing as a 100% masculine man

You just proved the point that gender is a spectrum. Some men are more masculine than others. That's the spectrum.

>>688670615
Kek'd

Humans have a few actual sexes. Male, female, intersex(development of male and female features despite xy or xx chromosomes) xxy males/females and xxx females. Thats fucking genetics. BECAUSE WE REPRODUCE SEXUALLY.

>>688670707
how can you tell? ever talked to a dolphin?

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>>688663662
you would have three slices, one for female, one for male and the third one for gender fluid

>>688670489
Two words. To describe two sexes. One when you're talking about it scientifically. One when you're talking about how you're a male but a complete pussy. They're the same think you dipshit.

>>688663662
Sure it's a spectrum, but that spectrum only has 2 points, you can be anyhwere from fully masculine to fully feminine, You can't be mayonnaise.

>>688663662
Gender IDENTITY can be fluid. Gender is not. With a very few exceptions, gender is male or female and defined by primary sex organs.

>>688670928
No but I've seen all their penis and vaginas.

>>688663662
Thanks asshole. Your stupid fucking picture just triggered me. I was having fun browsing the chan but you just had to post this stupid piece of shit picture. Now I'm sitting here having a panic attack just because of you. You ruined my day, bigot.

>>688670768
That's not a difference in gender though, that's a difference in lifestyle, choosing to be a lumberjack over an artist doesn't make you more or less of a man, it means you have different interests or priorities.

>>688665075
Yep

>>688664290
they dont exist. the closest thing to a human hermaphrodite is an intersex person, which still have defining chromosomes and thus a gender.

>>688670768
Being a weak man doesn't mean your gender is in question though, it just means you have different personality. Everyone knows some men are more masculine than others why are you even bringing this up I thought we were talking about traps who think they're somehow more female than any other man which isn't true

>>688670941
Genderfluid is such a massive crock of shit.

>>688671106
Nice bait faggot

>>688670941
I think I got cancer just by reading that

>>688670768
You mean to be saying "Personality" have a spectrum, not genders. Gender is defined by 2 things just because you're a sissy it doesn't change the fact you are of the male gender.

>>688665508
>Gender is from the Latin genus, quite literally "biological classification".
>It has nothing to do with your make believe fantasy identity brought on by mental illness, nor does it have anything to do with sexual preferences.

i see nobody addressed your post

faggots avoid logic and truth when confronted by it

>>688671320
>>688671148

>Being a weak man doesn't mean your gender is in question though

It means you have fewer masculine traits, and since all men aren't born with a certain precise number of masculine traits that means there is a spectrum. That's what it means to say gender is a spectrum. It's the aggregate number of masculine-associated traits versus female-associated traits. And since there is no set number it must by definition be a spectrum

>>688671106
Call the waaaaaaaahmbulance!
Preferably the one with the amber lamps.

>>688671735
This
Then all this fucked up otherkin genderfluid bullshit can be defined as a personality disorder. We need to get to that point so these retards can get the treatment they need.

>>688663662
you are face is a sprectrum patronum kek

>>688671926
actually two spectrums
one male and another female, but there is no overlap that allows a man to be a woman
gender is still defined by either having a dick or a cunt, the rest is a spectrum.

>>688663662
No

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>>688664255

underrated comment

>>688671926
So your gender is defined by your masculine traits? Well what are the masculine traits? Not every culture only finds big burly lumberjacks to be masculine. Masculinity has a a spectrum not gender and that's the only thing you're proving and everybody knows this already.

>>688671926
>spectrum aggregate number
You are making shit up to try and not feel different. Stop it; the facts are against you.

>>688663662
gender is what you say when youre trying to deny sex

>>688671735

>you're a sissy it doesn't change the fact you are of the male gender.

If you're a sissy it means you have fewer traits that are associated with masculinity. Thus as a sissy you are one a different location on the gender spectrum than someone with many masculine traits.

>>688670489
>Sex:
>either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and many other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.
>Gender:
>the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).
>buy a fucking dictionary.

Gender [Latin genus, from geno, gigno; Gr.to beget, or to be born; Eng. kind. Gr. a woman, a wife; Sans. gena, a wife, and genaga, a father. We have begin from the same root. See Begin and Can.]

1. Properly, kind; sort.

2. A sex, male or female. Hence,

3. In grammar, a difference in words to express distinction of sex; usually a difference of termination in nouns, adjectives and participles, to express the distinction of male and female. But although this was the original design of different terminations, yet in the progress of language, other words having no relation to one sex or the other, came to have genders assigned them by custom. Words expressing males are said to be of the masculine gender; those expressing females, of the feminine gender; and in some languages, words expressing things having no sex, are of the neuter or neither gender

maybe you should get a real dictionary, and not a faggot one

>>688666886
Whateva ya say, Satan

>>688672172

>sex is still defined by either having a dick or a cunt

fixed that for you

>>688672598
No, you're still of the male gender so there's no spectrum. Just becuase you have fewer masculine traits it doesn't change the fact you're still a man. Gender spectrum doesn't exist.

>>688672598
If there was a gender spectrum, for you special/fag butterflies, but there isn't.
You're all just faggots to anyone not in your little support group.

>>688671926
Except that a man doesn't define himself by the number of masculine traits he has, he wakes up in the morning and literally never once thinks about during the day while he's doing whatever work or other activity he has to do that day. Level of masculinity is not a gender.

>>688670768
>You just proved the point that gender is a spectrum. Some men are more masculine than others. That's the spectrum.

personalities have a spectrum, faggot, not gender

>>688672420

You're going to argue physical muscle isn't associated with masculinity?

Do yourself a favor and figure out what testosterone is because atm you're embarrassing yourself.

>>688672880
A man is male.
A man is a female.
A man has no face.

>>688672420
This.

But also: Homosexuality actually makes sense because there's a large part of the population that actually has it and it's displayed in animals as well. Gender dysphoria is not seen in animals though, there are not any animals that pretend to be their opposite sex all their lives. It's a product of human evolution and sociology. It's weird that they claim the normal genders are what is made up when gender dysphoria is obviously a new thing.

>>688672424

>i'm confused by words i don't understand

>>688673026
A skinny nerd and a bodybuilder are both men at the same level. Their personality traits vary and that's the spectrum there's no gender spectrum.

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>>688666886
DEM NUMBAHS

>>688672598
I have fewer masculine traits than the world's strongest man competitors, it doesn't mean I'm not a man.

>>688672880

"level of masculinity" is exactly what people are talking about when they say gender is a spectrum.

>>688673133
Homosexuality and gender dysphoria are simply a result of poor parenting. If you raise your kid to be girl, he will be girl.

>>688673026
>>688673178
How is this an argument? Yes the female with more muscle is more masculine compared to the female without but they are both still female.

>>688673346
You're talking about adjectives dipshit.

>>688673527
That doesn't explain why animals are homosexuals and not gender dysphorics.

I had to meet with an 50 something yo tranny bloke once. Worked for a manufacturer who's system we were installing. Other than the monstrosity that was in front of me 'sophie' as he/she now goes by, i have to say i was shocked at how comfortable they were about the obvious trans thing. He/she was an extremely normal inteligent person. I dunno it just wasn't what i was expecting.
When you hear about people saying they'd rather an hero than stay as the same 'gender' then to me that says, this is no silly weird phase thing, whether people want to dub it a mental illness or not, these people, as far as they're concerned were born in the wrong body.

>>688663662
Is that banana bread lmfao

>>688673346
But thats retarded because even the most betatist of men are still men, just because you don't have masculine traits there gender is never in question, therefore there is no spectrum

>>688673738
I guess we'll have to make up some new words than and pretend they're important.

>>688673601

>they are both still female

I never said they were not both biologically female. But they would be at a different place on the gender spectrum. A woman with lots of feminine traits would be at the extreme end of the female spectrum and a woman body builder, while still being close to the female end, would not be in the same place because she has fewer feminine traits and more masculine traits.

>>688673738
They do it for a number of reasons just google it. They do it to to establish dominance, to pass time, but I've never heard of an animal who does gay sex for pleasure.

>>688673346
That's fucking stupid, I've met some incredibly masculine women who are still women, never self identified as anything but a woman and would be pretty pissed off if you told them they're somehow less of a woman because they're giants.

>>688673253

If you have fewer masculine traits overall, it means you're less of a man. And therefore more towards the female side of the spectrum as opposed to the world's strongest men competitors.

>>688663662
Gender used to be simple: male, female.

But then, a few entitled (most likely white) pricks didn't feel special snowflake enough so they started saying they felt different genders during different days.

But when they were pissed to find that EVERYONE has certain quirks that don't fit their gender, they decided to make up special snowflake names for their quirks and claimed they were being oppressed.

Again frustrated that everyone was telling these idiots to shut the fuck up, they genderfluidly raged and created Tumblr.

There is only two genders. Any quirk you may have that doesn't fit your original gender role is just part of who you are. It is not gender specific.

>>688674017
"feminine traits"
So the more adjectives you use to describe yourself, the more special you are?
This generation is going to be nothing but faggot retards. I'm saying we plan the draft now. Male, female, and all the special ones in-between.

>>688674017
>But they would be at a different place on the gender spectrum.

Stop using the word gender you sound like a fucking idiot, explain to me how their gender is on a spectrum? PENIS OR NO PENIS, that's it, no spectrum

>>688674025

>a woman and would be pretty pissed off if you told them they're somehow less of a woman because they're giants.

Except you would be exactly right to call them less of a woman because they have fewer feminine traits.

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>>688674149
No. Just becuase you have fewer masculine traits that doesn't make you MORE of a female. You're honestly retarded

>>688674289
> penis or no penis
Mysogonistic scum

>>688674149
You can put anything on a spectrum. Doesn't really make it important.
For instance.
On a scale of:
blabbering idiot - to - fully functioning human being
you're dangerously close to the left side of the spectrum. Feel special?

>>688673783
Crazy people don't realize they are crazy

>>688674470
SPECTRUM- used to classify something, or suggest that it can be classified, in terms of its position on a scale between two extreme or opposite points.

How is it possible to be on a gender spectrum? Is it possible to have half of a penis and half a vagina? No so there's no spectrum

>>688674273

Do some research on male and female hormones and how they affect the human body. It doesn't matter how you want to describe yourself, it matters what traits you actually have.

>>688674759
Moobs is now a gender guys!

>>688674523

Well you've now admitted that gender is, in fact, a spectrum. Mission accomplished :^)

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>>688674924
Forgot the pic.

>>688674753
I agree with you, anon, but why is it penis or no penis? Why not vagina or no vagina?

> fuck the patriarchy

>>688674953
I said you can put anything on a spectrum. It doesn't make it relevant or important in any kind of way. Dumbass.

>>688674312
But they're not less of a woman, quite literally they're more of a woman by sheer size. And the implication that someone is qualitatively less of a man or a woman based on physical size or muscle mass is ascribing physical characteristics as the defining factor of whether you're a man or a woman, similar to something like oh maybe having a penis or a vagina. You just refuted your own argument.

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Faggot. If you're going to post a picture thenpost the whole picture.

>>688674953
Except there's no spectrum with gender it's one or the other. Autism is a spectrum because some people can't even function while some people barely notice they have it. With gender you know if you have a penis or a vagina.

>>688663662
Im legally a snake

>>688675058
Usually males refer to penises and women refer to vaginas, it's just a reflex. Picture a doctor. Is it male of female? 90% of the time it's your own gender. Not everything is feminist issue.

>>688675058
Because we all have vaginas in the womb only the powerful grow a penis.

>>688674753
Technically you can have half a penis or vagina, but that's a birth defect.

>>688663662
Yes, gender is a spectrum. Because the less an ugly dress wearing faggot is associated as being a man the better it is for all us guys, and neither is it female and fit to be fucked.

>>688675479
But he's still a guy with a dick so where's the gender spectrum?

>>688674289

Their gender is on a spectrum because not all men have a certain set number of masculine traits. Some men have many masculine traits (which would put them on the extreme masculine end of the spectrum) and some men have fewer masculine traits (which would place them lower on the masculine side of the spectrum). That's what people mean when they say gender is a spectrum. Some men are very manly and some men are not very manly, which places them at different points on the gender spectrum since they have a different number of masculine traits.

>>688665508
This so much.
Its a mental illness to want to cut pieces of your body off and inject yourself with foreign hormones that DONT CORRESPOND TO YOUR BIOLOGY.

>>688675411
No. That's a new gender. You insensitive prick.

THERE ARE ONLY TWO GENDERS
>SKATE
OR
>DIE

>>688675411
I meant you can't have both, if you did than that would be considered gender spectrum.

>>688675580
And some humans are retarded, you are one of them.

>>688675580
The more adjectives you can use to describe yourself, the more male you are, you think?
I think you're retarded.

>>688675580
No. Being masculine doesn't define your gender HAVING A PENIS DOES. With your logic a very manly female would be considered a dude but no idiot there's male and female. Personality have a spectrum that's all you're proving

>>688675782
>>688675809
INB4 samefag.

>>688675725
You can though, they may not be fully functional, and again, birth defect.

>>688663662

Gender is binary, sexuality is analogue.

>>688675684
kek

Yes.
But it's a spectrum of two points.
So a very short spectrum.

>>688675955
Even then they biologically have to be either male or female it's impossible to be half of each.

>>688675381
Shut up cisgendered scum.

>>688675403
STOP RAPING ME

>>688675094

>But they're not less of a woman

A woman with fewer feminine traits and more masculine traits will occupy a different place on the gender spectrum relative to a woman who has many feminine traits and little or no masculine traits. That's what I meant when I said they would be less of a woman. Sorry if that language triggered you but it's pretty accurate -- fewer womanly traits means they are less womanly.

>>688663662
Yes, a spectrum of human decadence

>>688675953
18 seconds between posts, responding to the same post, do you even open your eyes?

>>688676305
No because she still has a vagina and therfore is female. You really need to buy a dictionary and stop using the word gender

>>688663662
I don't think gender is binary. And sexuality most certainly isn't. Couldn't care less tho. Just let people be, why do you care?

>>688663662
And ill fuck any of em

>>688675293

It's a spectrum because not all men are born with the same number of masculine traits. A man with more masculine traits will occupy a different point on the gender spectrum as a opposed to a man with little or no masculine traits. That's what it means to say gender is a spectrum -- not all men have the same number of masculine traits and not all women have the same number of feminine traits -- therefore it is a spectrum.

>>688675570
There's more to being a man than having a dick. If you don't know this you're female or on either the gender or autism spectrum

>>688676209
Again not exactly, there are XXY cases, they're genetic abnormalities, think of it like the down syndrome of the reproductive system.

>>688676611
>>688676544
8/10 B8 M8

>>688675580
What your saying is more like a personality spectrum. There is no gender spectrum.

>>688663662
Is soup a beverage?

>>688676379
I just wanted to make sure he knew that it wasn't just me that thought he was retarded.

>>688675899

Having a penis defines your sex, not your gender. Gender in this regard is referring to masculinity vs femininity. Masculine traits can show up in women and feminine traits can show up in men. Furthermore a man may have a different number of masculine traits from another man. Thus gender is a spectrum.

>>688676858
The spectrum of personality disorders?

>>688676449
Nobody is talking about sexuality, and we care because this fringe group of lunatics screams and cries the loudest until they force non issues to be dealt with in ways that are detrimental to everyone. And they're doing it purely for attention.

>>688676930

V8 is just cold tomato soup

>>688676858

Here is where all that shit collapses. Define masculine traits. Wait, who the fuck are you to define masculine for all men?

The faggotry is real. Even masculinity is full of wanna be collectivist Hitlers that think they can define maculinity and shame others for nor living up to their made up standards.

>>688676996
Gender means male or female, just killyourself. Masculinity is a spectrum is what you mean to be saying.

>>688676948
Ahh, gotcha.

>>688677113
But it's got like 7 more vegetables...
Cold vegetable soup if anything really.

>>688676418

I never said the two woman in question would not both still be female, I said they would occupy different points on the gender spectrum because they had a different number of feminine traits.

>>688677284
Gender means male or female it has nothing to do with you personality traits. Gay men are at the bottom of the masculine scale but even they still consider themselves me because they are

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>>688663662
The argument is that sex and gender are different. Sex is the chromosomes you have and the reproductive organs you have. Gender is the "social" attachments to the sex.

Here's an example of the argument: a person has male chromosomes and a penis. His sex is male. The person has a sister. The sister has female chromosomes and a vagina. Her sex is female. The parents of the children decide to paint the girl's nails red and let her wear lipstick. These are considered "girl things". The boy is told not to wear make up and not worry about things like getting scars on his face. These are considered "boy things". The former is their sex and the latter is the social view on how the sex should look and act, aka gender.

>>688663662
Then you would have two slices you fucking retard!

>>688677113
>>688677268
So does that make it a food or a beverage?
>soup is not binary

>>688674564
Some do I realize my jealousy and emulation of females is a cry for help and mental illness from some bad genetics and a bad childhood

>>688670320
>they're the same word
>literally two different words
Kek

>>688677207

Masculine traits are caused by biological factors like testosterone and genetics. This is all very basic science and it's unfortunate that your life sciences program (or maybe your parents?) failed you so badly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masculinity

>>688677284
The problem is that you consider woman and female to be different, then you say that reproductive organs don't determine whether someone is a woman, but physical size and muscle mass does.

>>688677573
The argument is the definition of a fucking word?
The definition of a word changes depending on what the generation wants to do with it.
Small group of little morons want to feel like special butterflies and change what gender means.
When in reality they're just "faggots". Male or female.

>>688663662
those that think sex is a social construct have obviously never been kicked in their social constructs

>>688677616
It is a nutritional supplement.

>>688677616
Juice (squeezed food). Even chunky pulpy, is a beverage. Blam.

>>688677573
The definition of gender is the state of being male or female. The definition of male is having a penis and the women having a vagina. Therefore there is no gender spectrum it's one or the other. There's personality traits that faggots are using the word gender to make themselves feel better

>>688677468

I'm not referring to "personality traits." I'm talking about quantifiable physical characteristics like muscle mass, bone structure, hormone levels, etc.

>>688677974
Ipso facto even if you like to squeeze your penis between your legs and call yourself a pretty lady, you're still a boy. Just a faggoty one. So I guess you could say the only real spectrum is how much of a faggot you are.

>>688674021
>to pass time
>implying that's not for pleasure

>>688678125
So you saying all men have to have a lot of muscle mass and an over all bigger frame to be considered the male gender? Go see a physiatrist you have some real issues to work out.

>>688677994
Then what do you call the phenomenon of it being socially acceptable for a women to wear dresses and a man to be seen as incorrect? Besides the ad hominem of faggot?

>>688677713

Just because two people occupy different points of the gender spectrum doesn't mean they aren't both women.

I think you're having issues with terminology. A man having some feminine traits doesn't make him a woman, and I never said that it did. I said he would occupy a different place on the spectrum from someone with no feminine traits. Most of the rage ITT is a failure -- perhaps an intentional one -- to understand the terminology being used.

>>688670615
>enderself
kek

>>688678762
Just stop calling it gender because it's not gender spectrum everyone knows that gender is either male or female and has no spectrum. You should be calling it gender identity because that's what it is

>>688678500
What does that have anything to do with gender being male or female. He's still man you can call it whatever you like

>>688678434

>all men have to have a lot of muscle mass and an over all bigger frame to be considered the male gender

That's the exact opposite of what I'm saying.

I'm saying gender is a spectrum because all men don't share the same number of masculine traits like the ones you mentioned in your post.

No, gender is an expression of biological sex. People are confusing wearing a skirt with being an entirely opposite biological sex.