Some camel fuckers in Iraq ain't gonna test the armour on that

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Abrams has been in more wars...

>>688646466
Do your research, has been frontally penetrated twice. Once frontally, just off the top of my head.

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>>you need a armour when running over children.

why dont you drink some more beer and wank a bit on your flag while crying.
Weapons are for killing you stupid fuck. Nothing cool about that

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>>688646466
>tanks
are you even trying?

>>688647448
I frontally penetrated your mom twice

>>688647448
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1551418/MoD-kept-failure-of-best-tank-quiet.html
RPG-29 lower glacis plate penetration.

>>688646466
Best armor the Brits have is hiding behind 'Murica

>>688647557
I'm drunk typing, so relax, cunt.

>>688646466
Well it's not like isis is roll heavey armour or long range missles or bombers, what the fuck do you expect? Shit RPGs from the 80s working? Shapecharge exploseives NEVER were any good at hunting tanks, they weren't even mention to go vs that kinda thing. You really think any half assed government would build a new tank from scratch and think, hey you know the pansfaust? Let's spend 100 million dollers making a tank that cant take hits from it.

Also when France is bombing isis more than you, you got a real problem.

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>>688647828
the threat of irish rebellion is always lurking around the corner

>>688647674
drunk at 1pm? or aus fag

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>>688647828
>ISIS are the only enemy the UK armed forces have ever faced

You're retarded.

>>688647553
>obsolete technology

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>>688648990
>obsolete
>posts a berkut

I read that the challenger actually has a hot water dispenser so you faggots can always have your tea. The only thing the challenger has going for it is that it is a generation ahead of a retrofitted Abrams. If you think the US is going to standby and let a bunch of crumpet chugging faggots have a newer killing machine you are sadly mistaken.

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>>688649633
here's a better picture of a RAF concorde ;^)

the US has no problem with borrowing our superior crumpet chugging brimstone missiles.

Also, there are only an estimated 200 challengers floating around the world...with rifled barrels. (Fucking up the supply chain)

>>688649647
Americans are fucking retarded. Tanks are virtually obsolete. Obama got so much flak for taking the US military into the 21st century by shifting from surge warfare to special operations and surgical strikes.
>fuck you obama my son never got the chance to get his dick blown off in iraq!
Warfare is becoming increasingly black & white: precise strikes or totally annihilation. This means operators and WMDs. The need for armor is persist, but only in police actions and occupations.

>>688649883
We borrowed your armor, tested it, and sent the data back for development. You're welcome. It's marginally better than the shit we have been running for years.

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>>688649844
nice dubs

>>688650048
They weren't obsolete when we parked them in Saddam's driveway.

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>>688650333
oh shi-

>>688650333
black death

>>688650385
>it took us 22 years to defeat an army with 1950s and '60s technology
>oh wait we're still fighting nvm
cool war, bro

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>>688648990
why dont fighter jets have missiles that fire out the back?

just wonderin

>>688650656
>our cities got bombed repeatedly
>help us America
>cool war bro

>>688650718
because the travel forwards.......very fast

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>>688650333
no gunship no

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>>688646466
Why don't you take this to /k/ so someone can tell you how wrong you are?

>>688650443
so close

>>688650718
>missle fire opposite way enemy is going
>enemy jet deploys flares
>flares don't effect missle because its facing other way
>missle turns
>direct hit
someone fund this

>>688650953
how do missile track target?

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>>688650609
what america needs now is a super carrier; fuck a wall
>fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.

>>68864890
>can fuck up an entire town with one strafe
>obsolete technology

>>688650443
There's absolutely nothing dangerous about doing this

>>688651065
lazer guided

>>688650048
Tanks are almost obsolete, but only in the asymmetrical warfare we've been seeing recently. Tanks work best when used offensively against a conventional enemy with lots of support, and they're really good at that. The last time we used tanks against a conventional enemy was in the invasion of Iraq, and as far as I remember tanks did a pretty good job.

>>688651194
the flares wouldn't distract the missile anyway.

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>>688651098
i'll just leave this here

>>688651288
aren't flares designed to make the missle think that they're the target and detonate?

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oh cool, a tank thread

>>688650953
Think of how much force the missle would need to counter the speed its travelling forward, to travel in the opposite direction. By the time it managed to overcome it, the target will have passed it by.

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>>688651506
Ah cool, a chopper

>>688651254
>brings a rusty rpg to a 67.7 ton tank

>>688651560
More than likely the enemy jet would have made a defensive maneuver and changed direction anon

flares and chaff take up much less weight than any rear offensive weapon would, chaff can actually bring down a pursuer if it gets into their intakes

>>688651506
>implying active protection doesn't make anti-tank missiles useless.

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>>688651375
err- sry i meant superdupercarrier

>>688651827
>implying

>>688647658
Best armour 'Murica have is hiding behind Britian

>>688651254
Some are retrofitted with packages to make them relevant in the mud hut environment. Imagine 67.6 tons of freedom rolling down your block.

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>>688651838
you were saying, anon?

>>688652054
would need to be 99% helium to actually fly

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>>688651827
>implying

>>688652240
dont do this it creates mustard gas

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>>688652240
>97,000 ton
>helium

>>688652375
So are you gonna prove me wrong or what

>>688651473
Flares fire out the back end on all aircraft I can think of, its the superior design, meaning the missile would still be tracking in the direction of the true target.

>>688652240
what if the props were rotating like reaaaaaallllyyyy fast?

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>>688652567
Im with you anon. Trump will make tanks great again

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>>688652375
Implying lots of things anon

>>688651473
>>688652614

Flares distract heat seeking missiles.
Chaff for radar. Therotically chaff could block the laser designator , but no likely long enough for a laser to require lock. Also
>keeping a laser painted on a high speed aircraft trying to dodge.

>>688650333
isn't this what the americunts used to kill all those msf doctors?

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>>688652654
putin will make suitcase nukes great again

>>688652375
There is no way in hell a rpg-7 did that to any modern tank. Even the new pg7-vr can't penetrate the crew compartment.
Nice bait faggot.

>>688647463
"Nothing cool". Yeah it fucking is pussy

>>688652896
I was implying heat seekers, I'm the guy that explained why flares couldn't defend from missiles incoming from the front at close range

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>>688652859
>>688652859
>kebab twitter
>picture of same helicopter 3 times
>went down because of engine flare out
>pilots rescued

>>688650443
>Firing chamber completely removed

How the fuck is that dangerous?

>>688648815
Bunch of bog trodders lmao

>>688653311
Upper receiver, sorry guys made a mistake

>>688651838

>implying modern materials are strong enough to support a floating structure that big

Don't even try man. It would be too heavy and the engine power required would be ridiculous. Maintenance would cost just so much.

>>688653224
>same helicopter
Did you not look at it?

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>implying this isnt the best tank

>>688651098
Yeah, the Maginot line did nothing .

>>688653467
Stop posting you fat autistic mong

>>688653494
Probably, tell them to use it so we can see

>>688653545

Why dont you make me?

>>688650718
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-256965.html
tl;dr the missiles velocity would be too slow to be effective air-to-air do basically the perusing bogie, i assume this is the scenario you were thinking it would be useful in, would fly right past the missile

>>688653406
>Upper receiver

My bad too, its early morning here.

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Best tank faggots

LOL ABRAMS PWNS T72. T72 SUCKS MAH DICK LOL RUSSIA SUCKS!!

>>688649844
you probs new this but that shit aint no concorde. That right there is a Tupolev Tu-144, the shitty copy of a concorde

>>688646466

Shame that half the Challenger 2 tanks are being scraped because the UK will never fight another largescale ground war and its too expensive to bring them back from Germany. 2 scots now drive the jackel, effectively a land drover with a few machine guns attached to it.

>>688653499
i think i read something about after the germans seized it, then the americans, some american general lost his keys to one of the fortifications during a german counter attack and couldn't get back in and it was over-ran again

>>688646466

Maybe, but the Abrams operator doesn't need to stop five times a day to pray.

>>688653559
its the leopard 2A7 fggot

>>688648815
thats not even ireland

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>>688654069

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>>688653820
who would win in a fight: 1 m1a or 3-4 t-34s?

>>688650767
>>Our fleet at harbor in our main navy base in the area was practical wiped out by a attack that everyone told us about before it happened.

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anti-armour infantry fag here...
cant believe the Israeli Merkava hasn't been mentioned. look this shit up, this tank has done some wicked shit, fucked those lebonese cunts good. only 5 were completely fucked by russian kornet missiles

>>688653857
and the v-shaped hull. bit better than a rover mate

>>688654220
Actually, they were all put back to sea except the Arizona and Oklahoma. You're a fucking idiot, stop breathing.

>>688654338
And don't forget if it gets in trouble the turret can just take off and fly back to Zion

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>>688653715
cutest tanks?

>>688654561
yeah haha millenium falcon as fuck

>>688654069
>leopard 2A7 fggot
The fggot version is pink you dumbwit and this tank clearly isnt pink.

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>>688654338
;cause most of the people here are ridiculing tanks as obsolete in asymmetrical warfare

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>>688654561

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>>688654338
kebabs are stupid though and love to martyr themselves against tanks. when england send tanks to fight the irish they all just fled the theater, waited for the tanks to withdraw, then returned

>>688654163
The t34's 85mm main gun couldn't penetrate the panthers armor at 500m. An Abrams can effectively engage modern tanks at over 3000m. You do the math master baiter.

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>>688647658
>>688651945

Best armour the Brits and Yanks have is hiding behind Canadians.

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>>688655515
could still score a mobility kill, fag

con i trattori porcaddio

>>688649844
They will give the enemy Ptomaine poisoning with the champagne and hot towels.

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>>688656030
maybe 60 years ago, canada's military died with pearson and the tri-service

>>688646466
Abrams have run about a half-million more missions and payrols than the Challenger.

Thanks for trying, but America wins. Again.

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>>688653820

>>688656086
Yes. If it can somehow silently hide its heat signature for over 2500 meters there is a possibility that it could damage a track

>>688655515
T34 had a 76mm main gun

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>>688656316
>america wins
>everyone loses

>>688656445
It had both, I used the most recent version in the comparison.

>>688656387
what if they were airdropped from an antonov 225?

>>688656649
that would be the T34/85 then

>>688656731
They would make excellent craters in the earth.

>>688656649
okay the t-34s airdropped from the 225, the abrams airdropped from a c5 to make it fair

>>688656825
Yes. Your point?

>>688656938
I'm pretty sure he means you didn't write t-34/85

>>688656871
Faggots talking about best tanks go to poland for the future tank.

>inb4 polish faggot
Nope

>>688656938
only that you were talking about the wrong vehicle

>>688656871
Can I assume it was a Saturday? Because the Abrams always wins on Saturday.

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>>688657109
yeah! same for submarines!

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this is a tank thread, right?

>>688657280
okay saturday... but it's october, russia always wins in october

>>688654017
underrated

>>688657332
Was talking about the PL-01

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>>688657389
right?

>>688657176
You could substitute any Russian tank in the scenario and you would have the same result. Failure. But for arguments sake let's say the t34 had its original 76mm gun. K. Same result.

>>688649844
nevermind that the concorde is a french plane and that aint no concorde, what point are you trying to make

>>688657489
>the hyundai of tanks

>>688657585
I didn't say it would win.
I just pointed out your failure.

>>688657709
Why the hate anon? Explain

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>>688657585
>implying
burger nigga pls

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>>688657465
You haven't seen The Hunt for Red October have you?

>>688657812
not him but it's a CV90 with a body kit

>>688654338
my nigga

merkava is the shit
would be interesting to see it in a classic tank v tank battle, its low radar profile would help, but im not sure about its gun

>>688657812
it's a lemon bro, it's just a defense spending exercise. you think bae is going to help poland build a tank better than england's mbt?

>>688650443
Do you even into rifle? He's inspecting the bore, with the bolt completely removed.

>>688658055
its designed to kill unruly sandniggers hiding in apartment blocks and obsolete T55s not fight real tanks

>>688656268
Trouser service

Canada offers freedom without the dumb. It's a superior nation to either as it doesn't even fight Denmark for Greenland- the two merely land helicopters and plant flags and leave bottles of wine or whiskey. It's the most civilised method of waging war over what will soon become the most destructive natural disaster in recorded history, even overshadowing the Flood of the Meditteranean into the Black Sea. When Greenland's cap slides off into the North Atlantic, tsunami will drown millions of people trying to escape, and completely destroy dozens of major cities on both sides of the Atlantic, ruin the North and Baltic Sea nations, destroy a full fifth of the Netherlands, and create temporary lakes hundreds of miles inland in Europe and America. Canada's and America's Great Lakes will be brackish for a hundred years afterwards, as the gulf of St. Lawrence will amplify the tsunami's force enabling it to reach Montreal, Toronto, Buffalo, Cleveland, Green Bay (no great loss) , and Chicago.

>>688658134
Not denying it. Bit for a LT its a good one.

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>>688657753
It was bait, you got me on a technicality, I'll get you next time troll.

>>688653152
heat seekers don't have depth perception all they see is a white dot to fly towards to and launching flares makes that a white cloud. that's what makes the missiles miss.

it's also why a missile coming from the front would probably have trouble locking on in the first place. the hottest part of the plane is the exhaust

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>>688657963
takes place in november though
>russia always loses right after they win

>>688658431
that and doing a barrel roll

never forget to barrel roll

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>>688658347
lol didn't read

>>688657941
oh hey, the russians made another tank toy
better watch out, they might outclass hasbro any minute now

fucking broke ass russians, always making some fucking prototypes, dumping money into weapons their state cant afford

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>>688658434
K. What was the question?

>>688657493
well who said you could stop

>>688648990
British tank didn't come into service until late 90's.
Has been penetrated in its use during the only war the tank has been in, the Iraq war.

>>688658968
1 billion t-34s vs 1 m1a1
>nobody asks about commanders
plebs

>>688648990
>A10 obsolete
Why would they update it when it can still fuck up every single tank?

>>688651617
>runs over your camel then blows up your entire family

>>688654455

Fuck forgot about that.

>>688659284
The Americans choose Joe Montana as tank commander. Who you got Eurocurry?

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>>688659286
why would you respond to obvious bait without an insightful or entertaining comment?

>>688646466
the challenger 2 would actually have to see battle first...

>>688646466
Same with the M1A1 Abrams

>>688659286
Why did the US invent the nuke when it could already defeat practically every military in the world? Even when you're on you have to keep improving so you stay that way.
> also because fuck you

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>>688659673

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>>688659545
komrade kommander kournikova ftw

>>688658431
New heat seeking missiles fired in pairs or multiples communicate w/each other to range flares. Flares lose velocity faster than any airframe would dare, and these signals are rejected as spurious. They fly thru the flare field and execute an Immelmann turn (there's not really an Up to rockets as they are capable of executing flights while spinning if a rudder loses some ability) and come at jet from the front after identifying the source of new flares.

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>>688659959
>american tank she-manned by submissive sissies
>komrade kommander issues jerk off instructions to american tank crew
victory, komrade kommander!

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>>688659959
The comeback kid would have that guppy eyed slut fucked down to a wet spot before the diesel engines got warmed up.

>>688660076
your mom execute an immelmann turn directly into the path of bbc

>>688660076
an immelman turn involves flying straight up to stall
missiles don't stall
missiles don't immelman

>>688660557
john candy can't save you now, yankie

>>688660076
Detection from the side is easier but when behind by overtaking the flare field there's an opportunity to fuse the missile remotely to fire using magnetic sensor or radar proximity ping. When this fails a turn is made if there's enough manouverable flight time, when not, the gimbals stall the rocket before detonation and the enemy flies through a field of debris.
It's the "I hope it chokes you" option.'

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>>688660553
Gratuitous victory shot. Better luck next time commie.

>>688646466
German had better tanks than the USA in WWII. How well did that work out?

>>688660076
I'm not an aviator-
So it's an upturn 180

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>>688661106
psh, only because they didn't test for steroids back then

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>>688660943
Filthy propaganda, John Candy is in charge of snacks. (Cocaine)

25 March 2003: A friendly fire ("blue-on-blue") incident in Basra in which one Challenger 2 of the Black Watch Battlegroup (2nd Royal Tank Regiment) mistakenly engaged another Challenger 2 of the Queen's Royal Lancers after detecting what was believed to be an enemy flanking manoeuvre on thermal equipment. The attacking tank's second HESH round hit the open commander's hatch lid of the QRL tank sending hot fragments into the turret, killing two crew members. The strike caused a fire that eventually led to an explosion of the stowed ammunition, destroying the tank. It remains the only Challenger 2 to be destroyed on operations.

Right on Wikipedia bro.

yey my old tank and possibly my old regiment. Fuckin awesome piece of kit.

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>>688661428
no canadians allowed.

>>688658434
Gotta any more Cold War art like that?

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>>688661420
That's the pot calling the kettle a nigger.

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>>688662281
>satirical post
>check the filename
js

>google translates your yankie expression
>that is marijuana telephones to teapot as african-american
i am not of understandings?

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Dafuq are you talking about

>>688662789
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Pot+calling+the+kettle+black

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>>688663193
Talking bout idioms...idiot.

>>688654554
Also FDR was aware of the impending attacks and allowed them to happen to bring America into the war.

What does the "main" in main battle tank mean?

>>688654017
Ayy

>>688665540
before it there were different tanks like light, medium and heavy tanks, now its just one main tank, with high mobility, good armour protection and firepower

>>688651945
as a proud amerifat i hate to admit this is true... but it is.

ps: sry about killing more you britbongs in recent wars than the enemy have. oops.