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Serious question for people voting Trump.

I assume you're pro-american labor and against outsourcing domestic jobs. If that doesn't reflect your beliefs, then this question isn't for you.

For those of you that have heard his promises to deport illegals and return manufacturing jobs to the continental USA, I ask you this:

Why would you expect him to act differently as a president than he has as business man? His businesses use foreign manufacturing and he has used imported foreign labor domestically?

Why do you believe his track record doesn't not describe his character and intention for the future?
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It's all a joke bro. You didnt get the fax?
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We don't like Trump. We just hate Hillary.
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>>688628268

If only it were a joke. This is a scary prospect.

>>688628525
I don't like Hillary either.
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>>688628005
Im pro freedom, anti-tyranny
which is why, gun to my head, i would vote for trump, but instead wont be voting.
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>>688628726

You do realize Trump is the guy that wouldn't hire an active reservist because he was a reservist?

Not exactly big in the respect for freedom department.
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>>688629113
Im not sure that you read my post.
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>>688628005
Trump bases his whole premise on the hope that once businesses pay 15% in taxes across the board, they won't outsource.

Which is bullshit. As of yet, Trump has not laid out any plan to keep businesses from doing that.
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>>688629272

I guess I misunderstood.
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>>688628726
>instead wont be voting.
it's your right to do that anon
don't let anyone tell you different
that IS freedom
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>>688628005
Serious answer:

Most Americans are fed up with the bipartisan politics over here. I live in Illinois and like 4 of our last 9 governors went to prison the corruption is fucked. The gerrymandering, and lobbying, and entire system is fucked.

We are in "burn it to the fucking ground" status. Oh, some pompous fucktard is running for president that breaks the status quo? His policies might wreck the nation? He pisses off SJWs? Sign me up.

Trump getting elected is the best thing that can happen to this country because it will be a hard reset.
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>>688630063
how's being a faggot under 25
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>>688630063
Im thinking most humans as a whole, are growing tired with society and it's constructs.
no other time in human history, have so many people thought, prepared for, and hoped for a mass extenction event (SHTG, WROL, zombie apocolypse, ect.)
Humans may be hive-minding back to a more natural state.
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>>688628005

>why would he act differently as president than a business man

Because he'll succeed at being the president for the same reason he succeeded as a business man: He wants to do the best possible job, and he wants to play the game well.

He'll be a good president, because he wants to do a good job, simple as that.
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>>688630473
wrong. sorry berncuck.
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>>688630515
because it's totally unnatural to want to evolve socially and progress as a people
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>>688630063
yes, him being an awful choice makes him the perfect choice. CNN is acting like Hillary is already in office. They're manipulating search engines. I prefer crazy over diabolical super villain.
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>>688630063
There isn't going to be a hard reset.
Trump will ultimately be like anyone else who has held that office. Why do Trump supporters think he's going to fulfill his campaign promises? Trump will quickly realize that running a government is nothing like running a company. He's going to end up a shitty one-term president.
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>>688630580
you are
You're a stupid faggot who hasn't lived long enough to appreciate a stable democracy. You're probably under 20, actually.
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>>688628005
All candidates are shit tier and have been for the past 200 years. I dont want an old man that will die in office or a woman to be president. I want a charismatic businessman to represent my country. Idgaf if he turns my country into more of a shithole; I feel as if Trump will do it less than Hillary or Bernie. Bernies out though so hopefully all the Berntards give up on their marxist values and become the hypocrites they are and vote Trump.
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>>688630669
>a shitty one-term president.
which is plenty of time to fuck shit up
see: Bush
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>>688630864
>I want a charismatic businessman
with 5 bankruptcies
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>>688630745
>implying anyone on /b/ is older than 30
>Implying clinton was a stable democracy
>or reagan
>or carter
Literally the first bush was the most stabel we have been in the last 100 years.
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>>688630663
Not to mention a complete sociopath. I scares me that many people don't pick up on how robotic she is.

>>688630669
Someone hasn't read his policy proposals.
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>>688630553
You're wrong, though. He's a successful business man because HE is the ultimate authority. He has never had to deal with anything like checks and balances. Once he realizes he can't just make unilateral decisions he'll just do an average job.
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I'm voting trump because of his aggressive attitude. I think the world needs to see the military power of the United States unleashed upon the Middle East. Full scale assault, no prisoners, decimate it and claim it for ourselves.
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>>688631023
>stable
>attacked Iraq

sure, faggot
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>>688631149
Did you pass 8th grade?
Or did you get held back a year again?
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>>688630745
more stabs in the dark. on a side note we aren't a democracy you dumb cunt. the US is a republic, and more realistically an oligarchy. did you skip high school us gov class?
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>>688631097
Like Bush did? Take it somewhere else. Being a moron in office is still dangerous as ever.
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>>688631084
You mean his one or two paragraph outlines on his website? The ones where he doesn't explain any specifics? Does he have more in-depth policies posted somewhere else?
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>OP wasting his time...

Trying to get a logical answer out of a Trump supporter is like trying to pull an alligator's tooth. These people aren't logical, rational, or reasonable. These people live completely in their own world of delusion. Trump can fiip flop, zig zag and scat all day long and they still love him. You show them his unfavorable numbers and they still argue till they're blue in the face that he will win. They are like members of a cult. Forget it OP... Just forget it.

Signed.... a die hard, Hillary hating Republican.
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>>688631378
>we aren't a democracy
yes we are shithead

the mechanism of government comes from the popular vote

what's next, Professor? Bernie Sanders=Hugo Chavez?
I'd love to hear it.
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>>688630669
>>688630745
>>688630962
You have to go back ya' dirty meskins.
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>>688631439
so uninformed
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>>688631622
triggered
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>>688628005
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>>688630553

His focus has never been doing a good job. His focus has always been money and flash.

And honestly, the game he plays is one where he makes himself richer. He's not a philanthropist. He's not spending his billions on clean water for the 3rd world or other real philanthropic causes. He only cares about enriching himself.

>>688630864
Bernie wanted to copy the success of countries that are better off then the USA. You guys are running around saying "it can't be done" "it's communism"...bla bla bla.

Meanwhile the socialist democratic nordic nations are kicking your collective asses in every measurable way we assess quality of life.

>>688631149
You're a mental child.
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>>688631231
>lasted less than a year
>the US made money on it
im not saying he was perfect, just the most stable our country has been in the last century+. All the rest didnt know what they were doing, started terrible wars, or stripped massive amounts of freedom from the people (most did more than one of those choices)
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>>688631306
Yes I did, I graduated high school with a 3.84. I'm an Eagle Scout, a wrestler, and an American. I hate the liberal idiots who are trying to drive our country to socialism. He's my choice because I feel like his attitude is going to stop the pussification of this country, generation by generation.
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>>688631847
>Meanwhile the socialist democratic nordic nations are kicking your collective asses in every measurable way we assess quality of life.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Bernie - Admitted Jew
Clinton - Lying Bitch
Trump - Regular American

I think the choice is easy this year after last times "Hey, why don't we elect a Nigger", backfired horribly
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>>688631922
Bitch our country was more stable during Clinton than that shit. The world totally held its breath when Bush bombed Iraq. It wasn't cool.
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>>688631581
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>>688630962
>five
Four
How's being 12 you berntard
Have you read up on his bankruptcies? They weren't massive failures. He put too much money in and started to lose money so he filed for Chapter 11 reorganization to keep the businesses alive ando reorganizing them. That counts as bankruptcy. Still bad? Yes. As bad as the liberals want you to think. Hell no
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>>688632043
Agreed
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>>688631934
>a wrestler
you're probably a closeted faggot
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>>688628005
this is my response
http://frtyd.com/go/gQ0i_bAaEj/pizza
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>>688631934
>I hate the liberal idiots who are trying to drive our country to socialism.
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>>688631847
>Meanwhile the socialist democratic nordic nations are kicking your collective asses in every measurable way we assess quality of life
Meanwhile that's literally not happening. Sure, maybe they have it better than people in trailer parks or nigger towns in the south, but thats an unfair comparison
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>>688632115
It was 5 you asshole.

And Trump had a shitload of businesses fail without a bankruptcy cushion.

You want this shithead gambling with public money fucktard.
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>>688631847

Yes comrade!

>His focus has never been doing a good job. His >focus has always been money and flash.

>And honestly, the game he plays is one where >he makes himself richer. He's not a >philanthropist. He's not spending his billions on >clean water for the 3rd world or other real >philanthropic causes. He only cares about >enriching himself.

That describes the grifter Clinton's to a T. At least Trump doesn't pretend.
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>>688631942
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

I don't think you guys realize how much better your country could be. You didn't even make the top 10.

And you've lost your mind if you think people like Trump will make your daily experience better. Hell, half of you expect him to burn the country down.

>>688631934
You should be so lucky that your country turned to democratic socialism. See the above.
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>>688632323
>but thats an unfair comparison
it's unfair to someone who's never left mommy's basement and explored Europe
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>>688632430
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>688632323
They are literal communist, totalitarian police states.
the numbers coming out of stalin russia looked pretty good too.
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>>688631847
I agree with this fag
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>>688631581
>doesn't know difference between mobocracy and representative republic
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>>688632585
let me guess

mob rule: people choosing democratic socialism
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>>688631149
But then we'll get fucked over by the Asian reach around through Alaska. Just because we'd get the middle east's cards doesn't mean we could use them the same turn smh
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>>688630962
>implying there is no risk in starting your own business.

My business failed 3 months in and that was only a handyman gig. It is not a valid argument to suggest someone who had the balls to try to establish themselves when majority of business ventures flop will do a poor job.
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>>688632259
Here's my snapchat, say it to my face
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>>688632709
You aren't running for President
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it's simple:

Because no obe cares. His voters are the lower income, lower intelligent white men.

They listen to his speeches and hope he will fulfill their wishes. They do not even research what he is doing as a business man...
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>>688630063
Or a final plunge
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>>688632809
MOMMY LIBS ARE EVERYWHERRRRRE
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>>688632323

Facts are facts.

>>688632564
Are you kidding?
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>>688631847
Quality of life is for pussies
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>>688631934
>I'm an Eagle Scout
I'll bet you sucked off a few Scoutmasters to get that
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>>688631551

Trump supporters have no answers. They are clueless and dumb. That's why they like Trump so much. He speaks in a simple minded, retarded way that they understand. That's why they like him. They only have two responses to any question they are asked...

ANSWER #1) >HE GUD AT BIDNISS!!!

ANSWER #2) >HE AN OUTSIDER!!!

Beyond that, they are completely clueless....
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>>688632809
>findingfate

that moment when you realize you want him to penetrate your ass with his moist greasy cock
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>>688632810
Doesn't matter. It has zero relevance to his campaign or his potential as President.
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>>688633048
Ya, that sounds pretty fuckin 'Merikan!!!!
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>>688628005
Build wall deport snek. Votevotevotevote
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>>688633263
yeah it does actually
it makes thinking people question whether it's a good idea for someone with such outstanding business failures to be given access to public money
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>>688628005
Get on board faggot.

Clinton is funded by the Chinese. Remember Charlie Trie? Johnny Chung? John Huang? James Riady? Wang Wenliang?
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>>688632809
do you have a tight firm ass?
or is it sagging from being unable to get up to go outside from mommy's basement?
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>>688633488
cool stories

too bad only right-wing blogs pop up when you google that shit
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The sad part of this is, imho, all the average americans thinking trump is going to help them in some way.

He's going to do what he's always done: help himself get richer. And he'll help his PEERS get richer.

You're just there to buy his crap.
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>>688633352
It's a witch hunt. Despite his bankruptcy he is still a successful business man. Without risk he wouldn't be where he is today. Life is full of risk v reward. Most times it fails, you live and learn and move on with greater knowledge.

But I guess you voted Burnie? A man who didn't have a job until his late 40s. Pillar of the community, lived off social welfare majority of his life. I guess that's your common ground.
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>>688633108
Pipe down shill.
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>>688633778
Think what you like. The perception is that Trump is not a good businessman, that he's got some bad shit on his resume.

And it's going to hurt his chances this November.
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>>688632869
still not seeing the problem. we gotta throw some chlorine in this gene pool. fuck it.
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>>688633108
People want "common sense" solutions to complex problems. He's telling them what they want to hear and they love him for it.
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>>688628005
Let's look at the Clinton track record.

Perhaps she can appoint a criminal for National Security Advisor. Like Sandy Berger.
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>>688633912
Perception might as well be assumption, and we all know what happens when you assume something.
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>>688628005
Maybe Hillary will appoint a criminal crony as deputy Atty General. Like Webb Hubbell.
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>>688633272
yup, but I think I should clarify, I meant more "nanny state should take care of me" is for pussies
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>>688633912
Well, let's take a look at Hillary's resume. After all, she and Sid Blumenthal did run the PR operation against Bill's bimbo eruptions.

Seems to have worked on idiots like you.
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>>688632662
people could choose democratic socialism through either system. they are two different systems though. One of which the U.S. is and the other it is not.
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>>688633926

What the fuck "common sense solution" has Trump ever proposed, other than maybe """"BUILD A WALL"""".... The man has no specifics. He doesn't, and can't, talk intelligently about the issues. There's never any substance in anything he says. He has no restraint whatsoever. He's unstable. He flips flops all the time. But again, Trump supporters fail to see any of that. Trump supporters make Trump out to be whatever they want him to be.
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>>688628005
>>688633671
>>688633912
Let's look at how great she was as Sec of State. That Russian reset went well. Didn't it?
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>>688634750
She did profit handsomely after all...
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>>688633589
Ah, the vast right wing conspiracy. Several of these ended up in prison you fucktard. And AG Janet Reno stonewalled on the FBI request for an independent counsel.

But hey, the Clinton's did pretty well selling pardons, right?

Were you in a coma in the 90's or just a fuckin' retard?
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>>688628005
3 outcomes from Trump:
>Meme magic is real, GOAT president, restores america
>Destroys the country, we learn from our mistakes. We've had stupid presidents before(7/11 man), and we're still here; under an evil president, we'd be kept alive, but tortured.
>Does perfectly ok. lays down the foundation for more republican ideals to be set in the country, but otherwise because a forgettable president; think Calvin Coolidge or James Buchanan.
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>>688628005
You're directing well-constructed, logical questions to Trump supporters? LOL.

These are people who are comfortable with a politician who deflects on every question he doesn't like, lashes out when he's challanged, goes on petulant Twitter tirades, engages in risible hyperbole, and says things like "I have a good brain and I've said a lot of things" and "I have the best words" as legitimate responses to a question.

We all need to accept the fact that there's no reasoning with a Trump supporter. In fact Trump said it, himself -- "I could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose any supporters". Lol. Even Trump acknowledges that his supporters are so naive, ignorant, bullheaded, and uneducated that they'll literally believe everything he says, even if the only defense of his position is "don't worry, it's gonna be superfantasticextraordinaryamazing, and anyone who disagrees is a terrible person".
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>>688628005
>>688629511
>>688630473
>>688630669
>>688630745
>>688630962
>>688631231
>>688631386
>>688631551
Let's continue on Hillary's fine record of integrity. She did a bang up job on the Watergate House Judiciary Committee, right? Let's see what her Democratic colleague says about her service...
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>>688628005
part of the way to return manufacturing to america is to stop over taxing businesses so they can come back here. his own foreign manufacturing would also come home, and he'll probably also have them foreign since he has the money to support those too.
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>>688635872
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>>688633912
Hillary has integrity. She would never accept a $99K payoff from Tyson Foods. I mean lots of people turn $1K into $100K in 10 months trading cattle futures. Amiright?
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>>688635872
I'd also like to add that if you go to factcheck.org, you can view a very comprehensive list of every lie that's come out of Trump's mouth. If you're inclined to check it out, make sure you have a lot of time on your hands.
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>>688636609
I like how, since you can't defend Trump, you assume everyone that doesn't support him likes Hillary. Or that they believe your bs.

You have thin skin, anon. This is just the beginning.
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>>688635665
My further opinions:
1. I like his beliefs. I've taken tests, and I've found I agree with upwards of 80% of his beliefs. I dislike illegal immigrantion, syrian refugees, political correctness, etc etc. Other republicans think this way as well, but;
2. I believe he's a strong person. Other candidates always have the filter, especially dems. But this guy is a great fighter; he's managed to deflect everything his opponents have flung unto him.
3. I believe he's a good person. Hillary is a corrupt domestic abuser married to a rapist, Cruz is a corrupt slimeball that thinks he can trick Christians into voting for him(while cheating on his wife).
4. I believe he's a smart person. He's managed many businesses, made tons of money, and has gamed the media multiple times. I don't understand how anyone can call him an idiot when he's repeatedly shown that he thinks 10 steps ahead. The John Miller tape, the Cinco De Mayo tweet, etc etc...
5. Finally, I think it's just a good philosophy to go by; If people have to lie about you to make you seem bad, you're a good person. Multiple times people reporting trump have misquoted, over exaggerated, "forgot" to fact-check or look for the source, all this sleazy shit so that Trump looks terrible. Just google search trump or something, and look how mamy women he's raped or how many niggers he's burned. Real amount: most likely 0. But if some 1476 fiction novel has a character named DOnald abusing a dog, the media gets on it.
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>>688636609

Yeah, Hillary is a liar and a crook, so... What's that have to do with Trump being one too?
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>>688635872
That's quite an elaborate strawman there anon. You build it all by your little self? Or maybe a little help from one of Mark Penn's toadies?

After all, the Clinton's would never stoop to industrial-scale astroturfing, right?
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>>688636609
You know, you'd get a lot further if you'd be more direct with your criticism, rather than attempting to be a smartass... because I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

Anyway, I'm not a Hillary supporter -- she's a cunt; however, I'd be much more comfortable with 4 more years of essentially the same policies than 4 years of a volatile megalomaniac at the helm. And that's not even getting into all of his absurd policy proposals.
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>>688637416
>I like how, since you can't defend Trump, you assume everyone that doesn't support him likes Hillary

Exactly! They're so delusional they don't even realize that most Republicans even hate Trump.
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>>688637416
Sure buddy. I believe you.
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>>688637418
>inbred redneck Trumpcuck detected
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>>688633778
>Without risk he wouldn't be where he is today.
>Without risk
>risk
you mispelt
>daddys inheritance money
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>>688637816
I'd vastly prefer Trump's PC-slaying buffoonery over Hillary's transparent corruption, pandering and identity politics.
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>>688628005
Honestly, at this point, he could say he'll nuke the entire world, and I would still support him.
Through this election cycle, I've seen videos of civilians getting sucker punched, "peaceful protests" being a cover for blocking highways and destroying property, signs stolen and people doxxed, all for voting for him. I saw a video of a woman getting surrounded, cornered, and pelted with EGGS for daring to support a candidate. I saw a video of a man attacking a person because he joked about supporting Trump. I've heard of people pepper spraying children because they were to close to Trump supporters. No matter what cause your fighting, even if it's to turn america into an orwellian state, you have no right to attack people for their beliefs.

Anytime I saw a video of a trump supporter attacking somebody, I looked for a video that wasn't on Huffpost, and saw it was edited to cut out the part where it was self defense. Fuck these people. I want to see them cry. If trump nukes us, I want to be right next to them to see them become obliterated.
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>>688630473
Feels good
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>>688637950
k
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>>688628005
You gotta play the rules until you become the referee.
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>>688638344
>'d vastly prefer Trump's PC-slaying buffoonery over Hillary's transparent corruption, pandering and identity politics.
So the more attractive lie/liar is preferable, then.
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>>688637418
>1. I like his beliefs. I've taken tests, and I've found I agree with upwards of 80% of his beliefs.

Except Trump doesn't actually believe any of this shit, he's just telling you what he thinks you want to hear, and you're too much of a dumb fuck to see through his act.

>>688637418
>while cheating on his wife).

Now you just lost all credibility. Amazing you go on to tell people to "check their facts" but yet, the only source you have for this bullshit is the National Enquirer. You're a fucking joke.
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>>688637787
>strawman
>I don't agree with a post, so I'll call it a strawman
I'm obviously not a Trump supporter, and so I was simply addressing the irony of asking easily-manipulated imbeciles logical questions.

I'm guessing you're the same anon whom I directed this to >>688637816 and so I gink it's a bit hypocritical that you're accusing somone of a strawman when you've merely been deflecting with nebulous responses about Clinton
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>>688628005
Because current business conditions in this country drove him to run for president. He doesn't like the way it is with all the high taxes, draconian regulations that don't even make sense and even contradict each other, and outsourcing to other countries.
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>>688637787

Oh look, another dumb fuck Trump supporter who can defend their man, so they just assume anyone that doesn;t like him is because they like Hillary.... NO YOU DELUSIONAL CUNT NUGGET, WE DON;T LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE'S A FUCKING MORON, JUST LIKE YOU!!!!
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>>688638380
If those things aren't enough to show you how against trump america is, then nothing will be.

He has no experience in any political position whatsoever, has never been in control of taxpayer money, has never represented the will of thousands, tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, let alone millions, he has no experience in the military, no experience in law, no experience with diplomacy, he is COMPLETELY inexperienced in EVERY SINGLE FIELD required to be president. This man CAN NOT BECOME president, and honestly, I would be 100% ok with an assassination at this point.

If he does get elected, and someone doesn't step up as the hero we need, I can only hope that there will be mass violent protests against him. He will be the worst president we have ever had.
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>>688629511
Cept Canada already did it and it's working. Back under your rock.
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>>688638961
>Canada and the US are the same places and what works for one will absolutely work for the other

People with this logic need to promptly kill themselves
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>>688638380
>Honestly, at this point, he could say he'll nuke the entire world, and I would still support him
See: >>688635872
For anyone who doubts my assertion that there's no reasoning with a Drumpf supporter, I present exhibit A
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>>688638566
You're a terrible shill. Give Mr. Brock his quarter back please.
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>>688639064
Yes, all socialists that when challenged promptly point out how great <socialist program> works in Denmark should kill themselves.
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>>688638903
Powerful argument you make there fella.
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>>688638552
>except he doesn't believe any of it
How do you know
also the cruz thing was a fucking joke lmao. I was debating switching that with a Zodiac joke but thought that was too tumblr humor for 4chan.
>>688638945
So, according to you, Joe Biden would be a good president because he has experience. Obama was elected from his first term as an indiana senator, and we're still here today for the next election. Would you have been fine with his assassination too?
>>688639143
Yes, because every trump supporter thinks exactly the way as that guy. Bernouts, everybody.
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>>688638945
Reported.
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anyone that votes for a candidate whos primary goal is to bring back shitty manufacturing jobs so americans can toil away in factories again like it's the 60s or something is retarded

here's another thing: the only good thing about factory work was UNIONS which maintained high pay and reasonable working hours. guess which party is pro-union? SPOILERS: not republicans

so keep supporting that candidate who is gonna bring you those AMAZING factory jobs that are really gonna "make america great again" give me a fucking break
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>>688639159
That's right, everyone is literally a shill if they disagree with you.

>facebook, Reddit, instagram and Twitter
>literally no mention of 4chan
>Clinton shills on /b/ LOL

This is genuinely delusional behavior, anon.
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>>688638945
I'm not the guy you quoted, but are you seriously trying to justify that type of violence?

Violence is not 'evidence' of his inadequacy, it's evidence of faggotry on the part of US citizens.

Extremists are extremists, and liberals can be just as guilty of being faggots as rednecks. This type of behavior is not tolerable.
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>>688639259
>So, according to you, Joe Biden would be a good president because he has experience.

He'd be a SHITLOAD of a lot better than trump 100% because he has experience in office.

>Obama was elected from his first term as an indiana senator, and we're still here today for the next election.

He had experience, and showed intelligence. Trump has neither of these things.

>>688639406
>He said he'd be ok with an assassination
>That's definitely the same thing as planning assassination

Yeah lets arrest people for their opinion

>>688639575
You're right, it's not tolerable, except in the case when someone who's straight up not fit to be the president of the united god damn states of america has a real chance of winning the election.

And even if it wasn't tolerable under any circumstance, why in the FUCK would that make you want to vote for him?

>Hurrrrururururrrr people are so against him that they attack his supporters, so I'll vote for him in protest of the protesters

Kill yourself
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>>688639570

Read >>688637934

Idiot.
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>>688638961
How many US cities can you name? Let's see, Los Angeles, San Diego, San Jose, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Las Vegas... Damn, 7 big cities. Oh, wait, that's just the west coast. Let me continue; NYC, Boston, D.C.(of course), Philly, Austin, Houston, Chicago, Atlanta maybe... too many large cities to count.
Now let's count the largest cities in Canada.
Vancouver... uh, Winnipeg, I think. Montreal is one. Ottawa. That's 3 large cities in a country bigger than us.
Canada has roughly the same area as us. Besides that, Canada is TINY. Less population than California. Stop comparing tiny countries to entities that should be considered a union of 50 countries.
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>>688639837
It's not tolerable, except- No. It's not tolerable behavior. From either side. Period.

This guy having a 'shot' at being the president does not make violent action acceptable. He's within his rights, and you're within yours. Don't violate others' rights because you're upset.

I have no idea why senseless violence would want to make me vote for any candidate? That sounds like nonsense, so perhaps I misunderstood your question.
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>>688638509
I didn't say anything about lying.
Curious you bring that up.

Hard to break away from the talking points, eh?
Curious you bring that up.
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>>688639936
So if I typed up something negetive about Donald Trump in the same fashion, you'd believe me? Lol

When I said "easily-manipulated", I should have said "extraordinarily retarded"
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>>688639259
>How do you know

Because it's obvious to anyone who bothers to watch and listen to him. He just says what he thinks he needs to to get votes. The next day, he'll say something else. He has no real principles or convictions that he personally believes in. He's even said it himself... everything's a negotiation. One of the higher up's in his campaign even said "he's playing a part"... He talks in his books about "knowing his audience"... He's played you all for suckers.

It's so fucking obvious. But, I don't know why I'm wasting any more time pointing this out, because it's too late. Even if I could open your eyes, it's too late. The primaries are over, and he's the candidate. It's done. Now you live with it, and I'll be here to laugh my ass off when it blows up in your face and he betrays you. Once he gets elected ( if he e.er does ) once he no longer has to try to get your votes, he'll be a whole new person.
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>>688628005
Let's look who's backing the good Ms. Clinton...

It makes sense they're donating because she's gonna be tough on them, amiright?
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>>688628005
We are nationalists. If you don't have borders you don't have a country. EU will find that out in 10 years when the Muslims impose Sharia and German women are wearing burkas and German men are cucked.
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>>688640203
Oh I forgot you weren't the original guy. The original guy I quoted said the main reason he was voting for trump was because there were violent protests against him.

And yes, I'm ok with the violent protests against trump because he literally shouldn't be allowed to be president due to the utter absence of any experience with anything politically, governmentaly, or militarily related, and his objectively unpresidential behavior. The nation has grown to the point where we expect a president to not be a bumbling idiot that deflects questions, brags about himself incessantly, says objectively stupid shit regularly, and gets into petty, childish arguments with people on an online platform.

Trump CAN NOT BE our fucking president dude, I don't see why people can't understand this, he's LITERALLY not fucking fit to be a president, by every standard that exists. The day that trump becomes president is the day I truly lose hope in this nation.
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>>688639837
>You're right, it's not tolerable, except in the case when someone who's straight up not fit to be the president of the united god damn states of america has a real chance of winning the election.

Uh, no, the violence still isn't tolerable. Trump has every right to say whatever dumb fuck thing he wants, and his supporters have every right to assemble and listen to him like the dumb fuck's they are without threat of being harmed.
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>>688628005
i might vote for trump. i'm considering gary johnson too.

trump might bring manufacturing back, or he might continue as he has run his business.

hillary would definitely send jobs overseas. she has always been on the side of trade agreements that screw workers.

even if trump screws workers too, there is a chance he won't and the likelihood he will send our government and political system into a death spiral is too good to pass up voting for him.
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>>688634892
If Hillary gets elected, do you think she could pardon her good friend Sheldon Silver?

Wonder how much that would cost.
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>>688640931

If anyone votes based on, "this guy hit that guy so I'm voting for X," then he's either trolling, or an incredible idiot (outlier).

I agree that Trump is not a good choice for president, but I definitely disagree that it permits violence.

I'm likely to agree with all the ways in which you discredit him, but you should probably be considering why such a large portion of the country doesn't take your position to be an absolute truth.

He may be a shitty choice to you and me, but he's a perfect leader for the flat-earth, conservative-extremist, white Christians.

RIP Sanders
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>>688640931
>I'm ok with the violent protests

Well Hillary CAN NOT BE our fucking president dude. So I guess it is OK to beat up her supporters, amiright?
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>>688641154
>We should just let stupid people take over and destroy the country
>Because "Stop the violence maaaan, we gotta be peaceful maaaan"

No, fuck that, trump can not become the president. The fact that people are so abhorred by trumps presidency that they commit acts of violence should speak magnitudes for how badly this country hates him, but fucking idiots hoard to him in droves because he uses nothing but pathos in his arguments and appeals to the lowest common denominator.
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>>688641765
>Not listening to your oponents argument
>Deflecting good points with implied insults
>Using ad hominem and anecdotal evidence as though they were legitimate points of argument

Hey trump, please leave america
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>>688641154
>>688640931

We'll get a lot more Weiners in the White House if Hillary is elected.
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>>688642069
Not too good at detecting hypocrisy, are ya' fella.
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>>688640931
>I'm ok with the violent protests
Please stop with this shit, anon. This is precisely why many people are inclined to support Trump --because they are tired of the liberal lynch-mobs that have more in common with fascism than the open-mindedness that they tout.

I loathe Donald Trump more than loathe any other human being; however, it disgusts me when the radical SJW's make every left-leaning individual look like an overly-sensitive imbecile who's more concerned with being offended and suppressing opposing opinions than understanding the subjects they protest. At the end of the day, it only reinforces the Trump supporters idea that they're the ones who are on the right side of history.
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>>688631847
>Eurofag detected
Top kek. Bitch, you can't mess with the back to back world war champs!
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>>688632043
You really don't need any more info than this post right here.
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>>688641845

Oh, ok, so what you're really saying is, freedom of speech and freedom to assemble are only a "right" worth protecting as long as YOU agree with what is being said, right? So if we start deciding that some speech actually shouldn't be protected, where does it end? And who get's to decide what speech is ok and what speech isn't? Who becomes the authority on that?

That's a pretty slippery slope that you're advocating.
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>>688642069
Hey, if Hillary is elected, you think she'll make Sid Blumenthal Chief of Staff?

Just because Sid is too sleazy for even the great Rahm Emanuel doesn't mean much, amiright?
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>>688640931
Cough up the transcripts Hillary.

After all, Goldman Sachs and other banks paid upwards of $500K a speech. These gotta be pretty damn awesome speeches, amiright? I mean, why else wold they pay this kind of mony?
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>>688642873
Perhaps your opinions about Clinton would be more well-received if they weren't all ambiguous, anti-semitic blurbs that dont make any sense whatsoever. Ever think about that? Lol
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>>688642358
All I'm here to do is state why trump is objectively a horrendous candidate, and why we as a nation should be ashamed of ourselves for even considering letting a massive fucking moron and the butt of every "self loving idiot" joke become the president.

>>688642640
>This is precisely why many people are inclined to support Trump --because they are tired of the liberal lynch-mobs

1. I'm not liberal, I hate "feminism" and SJW's with a passion. I'm also not conservative. The reason I have such a massive hatred for trump's candidacy is the fact that he's so insanely unfit to be a president. We should not allow an idiot to lead our country just because so many people in the country are idiots.

2. If anyone votes for anyone because of protests against them, they're an idiot.

>it disgusts me when the radical SJW's make every left-leaning individual look like an overly-sensitive imbecile who's more concerned with being offended and suppressing opposing opinions than understanding the subjects they protest

I don't want to suppress opinions. I want people to understand that trump IS LITERALLY NOT CAPABLE OF LEADING A FUCKING COUNTRY. I've already stated the reasons why several times, he's just straight up NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.

Other candidates might seem shitty, but they at least have loads of experience and know how to fucking act. They at least know better than to argue with random people on twitter over dumb shit.

My hatred for trumps candidacy doesn't come from a place of sensitivity, he's never said anything that offended me, my hatred for his candidacy comes from the very simple fact that he should have been LAUGHED AT when he announced that he was running for president.
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>>688642814
There comes a point when people have to stand up and say "No, this is not what our country represents, and this is not acceptable". I'm referring of course to trump running for president and actually having a chance of winning. It's not my opinion that trump is a bad candidate, it's just an objective fact. He is objectively a terrible candidate.

Not to mention that the slippery slope argument is utter horseshit, there's a reason conservatives have been using it to rally old people and idiots for decades now.

"If we let gay people get married, then what's stopping us from letting men marry dogs?"
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>>688643437
I think you're mostly preaching to the choir, anon. It's just that many anons aren't going to vote for a capricious, narcissistic, pathological liar, just because Hillary is a typical establishment cunt.
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>>688643858
Still better than trump
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>>688643512
That false flag is wearing quite thin.

Shill.
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>>688644081
>Former paid troll

AKA a trump supporter looking to discredit hillary by fabricating evidence that he was payed to attack supporters online

How do people not see bullshit?
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>>688643512
I completely agree with you; nevertheless, if you really give a shit about edifying Trump supporters on why they're being shockingly naive and juvenile, you'd be well advised to not support the violent protests in the same breath.
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>>688644235
Yeah... but... it's text with a white background. How could that possibly be false?
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>>688643443
If any of these Clinton 'revelations' are news to you, you've really not been paying attention anon.

>anti-semitic
Wut? Guess you know nothing of good ol' Sid Blumenthal. I'm shocked!
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>>688643688
>There comes a point when people have to stand up and say "No, this is not what our country represents, and this is not acceptable".

So then stand up and make that argument on merit, not with violence. See, this is what I hate about Liberals. They say they respect free speech, but they don't. That's the difference.Conservatives might not like what you say, but they'll defend your right to say it. No one who respects a free exchange of thoughts and ideas would ever support silencing someone by threat of violence.
>>688643688
>It's not my opinion that trump is a bad candidate, it's just an objective fact.
No, it IS your opinion, it's also my opinion, but other people see it differently and they have that right. Make your arguments, and let the people decide. YOU and you alone don't get to decide that Trump can't be president.
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>>688644235
Of course, the Clinton's would NEVER stoop to astroturfing, amiright? I mean Mark Penn and David Brock are definitely not in that business!
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>>688644898
>It's an opinion that trump is a bad candidate

Dude do I really have to re-list every absolutely factual thing about him to iterate the point that he's an objectively bad candidate? This isn't art, there's very clear subjectivity and objectivity.
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>>688644497
The posts that I was able to decipher were not revelations. But I really don't think that variations of "Hillary has ties to Wall-Street" and "Buh... but what about Benghazi??" are very helpful.

I don't even know if that's what you're on about, because "hey, what about Sid Blumenthal. He's not sleazy at all tehehehe" doesn't give me much to go by.
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>>688633912
None of them denied it, Canada will welcome American refugees
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>>688645202
I never mentioned Benghazi. Dyslexia acting up perhaps?

Blumenthal is a fucking scumbag. So is Hubbell. So was Sandy Berger. So is David Brock. So Mark Penn. Plenty more where they come from.

Too young to remember the 90's or what? If so, you might to learn about the fine people the Clinton's like to hang out with.
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>>688645172
>Dude do I really have to re-list every absolutely factual thing about him to iterate the point that he's an objectively bad
candidate? This isn't art, there's very clear subjectivity and objectivity.

Preaching to the choir man. I already said I agree with you, but unfortunately, there are a lot of people who don't see him for the ego maniacal fraud he really is. Benjamin Franklin once said that "the people get the government they deserve"... He was right. That's the thing about self-governance, everyone gets a say, even the village idiot, and it's on the individual to be informed. So electing an idiot like Trump is the risk we take and perhaps the price we'll pay for the right to govern ourselves, and for letting our standards and education slip so far in to the abyss. If Trump is elected, well, it's what the American people deserve.
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I want trump to win just in spite of all the people who say he's not fit to be president. Like that ornery anon in this thread.
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I realize this is a presidential debate thread but I would really like to see a complete and total reset of the house, senate, and courts. Term limits of 6 years with no lobbyists pulling the strings. Sorry, carry on debating which candidate will hit a brick wall with their policies when they try to push them through a clogged up congress.
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>>688628005
Does it really matter?
Hillary on immigration holds the word possible positions.
She wants most illegals given full citizenship and a big wave of Muslim immigration like they have had in Sweden/Germany and her closest councilor is a Muslim with connections to Muslim groups and on and on.

Even if Trump just maintains the status quo on immigration (horrible) or makes it slightly better that'll still be 100000x better then Hillary opening the flood gates and going full EU on us.
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