>>688615937

How much LSD did he take? Predisposed to mental illnesses?

Tell him to shoot himself in the foot and put the blood in a cup then leave it on the counter over night and in the morning pour it on the ground outside then burn the cup or break the cup over the ground he poured the blood out on. The devil will take his blood and think hes dead.

>>688615937
Drug induced psychosis. A few haldol shots in his butt and he'll be on his merry way.

>>688615937
Tell your friend to wash his mouth out with buckshot and then the devil will never come after him again

>>688616368

Wish I could say. All I know is he claims to be having acid flashbacks lel

is he taking it right now? just get him to a safe space, his room on his bed or something and wait it out with him

>>688618003

Nah I don't hang out with him when he does that kinda shit lol
He's done acid multiple times

Just wait it out
I recently did 5 100ug tabs a couple of days ago, throughout the whole next day I was just fried, and time was just moving incredibly slow
After getting a full nights sleep, I felt a lot better and around noonish I was completely fine

>>688618451
Said he couldn't stop shaking cuz he was afraid about what he kept thinking about

>>688618451

Also said he hasn't done lsd in quite some time, just smoking blunts.

>>688616849

Encourage him to seek therapy and tell him you're worried about his mental state.

That's what I would do, do you feel he's worth that? Or will it damage him more?

>>688619826

I've tried. "The Doctors will call me crazy."

Hes out to get us all OP

>>688620061

Ask him, what's wrong with being "crazy"? Ask if he can notice his discomfort with his state, wouldn't he want to feel better? Maybe have someone to talk to about his experience? Be honest with him.

Sorry if I seem preachy. I'm speaking on what I'd do.

>>688615937
A friend of mine knows That I am not a human and that I can access different realms of existence,
He can't tell me what species I am.

>>688620356

Funny you say that. Kept telling me he's afraid off thinking or telling these things to other people. Something might happen to them.

3Spooky5Me

either get help or remain helpless

>>688615937
Tell him the devil isn't real. It's all a trashy language story

http://www.kelownasucks.com

LSD itself is extremely benign.

Your friend needs some sarin.

Aleph checking out.

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nobody has gotten dubs yet :(

>>688620728
>You dress up as the devil
>Steal the Yahweh voice clips from the Apocalypse movie
>Completely mind fuck him
Every so often, randomly say to him. You can NEVER hide from me my child. Make sure you go back to normal and converse normally after this as if nothing ever happened to drive him truly insane.

>>688620405

I've tried telling him how I feel. If he tells me all of this, how am I going to help?
From his point of view I "Just don't understand."

He's right, I don't understand why he thinks demons are out to get him.

>>688621271
get him to write a will leaving you all his stuff, then play the waiting game

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>>688621123

Come on dubs

Newby?

>>688615937
Glad to see your friend has awakened to the truth.

>>688621682

This

Can't being to tell you how many times he's said this

>>688615937
1. Get some holy water, a crucifix and 20 tabs of lsd
2. take all tickets at once
3. Prepare to fight the master of evil himself.

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>>688621271
>Drug Psychosis
>Major Mental Illness
Bad combination, hes had a bad trip and still suffering psychosis he needs a psychiatrist asap and you need to explain what has happened. Ive done over 1000uG trip as a newbie before psychosis only lasted as long as the trip I purposely forced a bad trip but I felt I was trapped in infinity during the trip and time moved so slow I saw time move as a frame by frame image, it was truly terrifying and the mind will do anything to distance itself from such an event, in his case going crazy and being unable to face that hes just having a psychotic episode.

>>688621271

Does he smoke weed?

If so, he must stop fucking smoking weed. Weed can cause issues in people. Certainly did for me.

Dawg.

Step 1) buy a black robe
Step 2) come to him in the night as an apostate of Satan
Step 3) act like you have no idea what's going on during the day
Step 4) repeat until you've convinced him that Satan has a higher calling for him
Step 5) get him to blow up parliament

>>688622130

Wants to, but as far as I'm concerned he still does.

>>688621271

What if the idea arose that he sees a doctor/psychiatrist/mental health specialist/whatever to humour the thought?

I mean, my advice kind of feels really spergy when I read it over, I'm sorry if it's not much help.

Maybe having more people understand him and help orchestrate his thoughts more fluently can help calm him, and perhaps help with any thinking difficulties or "negatives" (substitute for a better word that isn't attacking if he could be triggered) he'd like to improve on to become a more at ease person? He seems frantic, right? Having someone to talk to when going through tough situations can be beneficial, crazy or not.

>>688622116
Yeah this, it's sad but it's literally the best way, I was once in a psychosis for many months, nobody knew about it the whole time, I don't smoke weed anymore either

>>688622466

That might work, but like I said he wants to leave people out of it since he believes it'll effect there lives some how, or think he's crazy.

Going to see Warcraft with him tomorrow. He'll probably about it more then.

>>688622434

Yeah. I had a friend in the same place as yours. I always tried to be fair to him, but one day I got sick of his shit and stopped talking to him. I miss him, he was a good guy with inner demons. Something about him... like he was more honest than any of our other friends, and he also seemed to see that everyone is a hypocrite. ... The fool on the hill, huh?

>>688622116

Don't listen to this guy, OP. Better to leave your friend alone than to force him through the bureaucratic medical judgement zone. Unless he seems dangerous, then do something; get people out of danger.

Also, like I said, LSD is an awesome drug. But combined with weed... whatever it is that the bad effects of weed are on the mind, LSD (or any other psychedelic, probably) makes it much, much worse, while the experience lasts.

>>688623314
Do you even give a fuck about this person? seems like you don't if you are letting him live with psychosis
>>688623711
Legit also doesn't give 2 fucks about the mental welfare of your mate, people nowadays.

>>688623314

It's commendable that you opened your heart to him and saw him in his time of need, despite discomfort. You're a good friend.

He seems like he cares very much about others, what about himself? If I had demons on my tail, I'd be shitting myself literally, venting it to somebody who can handle these thoughts and implement the right strategies that paves the road to recovery would help his emotional well-being. It's a massive weight on his shoulders.

Does he hurt himself or others? (physically, not like smoking)

To play devil's advocate here: He seems to have neglected the fact that YOUR life may be jeopardy. Nothing negative has happened to you, as far as you're concerned (providing you haven't fucked with his head) with relevance to this fear of the devil.

>>688615937
tell him
blowing you is the only way

>>688623711

Thanks for the advice.

I doubt he would hurt anyone. Told him there's nothing I could do besides listen, and if he wanted serious help to try a doctor.

>>688615937
Ive taken a whole bunch of acid also and just tell him to take more. trust me, its fun. he has to end on a good trip or hes gonna be weird like thinking the devil is after him. maybe you should trip with him.

>>688625185
>Thanks for the advice.
You are taking the advice of someone that says if you ignore it, it will go away. He cut off his friend that suffered from psychosis cause he got tired of it instead of going to a doctor ARE YOU TRULY FUCKING STUPID?

>>688615937
the devil IS out to get ALL OF US

your friend is right

>>688625447

Never said I agreed with all of it.

I can't force him to do anything he doesn't want to do.

>>688624796

I don't know about them, but maybe psychosis is a very emotional illness to see a loved one deal with? Early intervention is key, mental health is just neglected, not in a bad way.

Maybe uninformed (in the nicest possible way) but not apathetic.

>>688625692
>I can't force him to do anything he doesn't want to do.
You can contact a psychiatrist just to at least get this cunt talking to someone, he can't understand how fucking insane it is that demons and the devil are out to get him, it is normal for him to think this that they are out to get everyone he cares about thats not healthy and he can't see how batshit it is.

Just visibly draw some wards, sprinkle some holy water or olive oil, say a couple of bible verses, and say something like GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN to put his mind at ease. Then say, 'He won't bother you anymore.'

>>688625692
>>688626067
YOU ARE THE ONES WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED

In fact you prove that there are invisible forces out to get him, just look at what you're doing RIGHT NOW.

The Devil is real. Just because you aren't woke doesn't mean your friend is crazy. He is un-crazy.

You are part of the machine and you don't even know it.

>>688626474
>The Devil is real. Just because you aren't woke doesn't mean your friend is crazy. He is un-crazy.
This nigger is mentally ill ignore him lulz.

>>688625692
>>688626067
>WE BETTER TELL SOMEONE THAT ANON ISN'T ACTING ACCORDING TO THE SYSTEM

Do you even hear yourselves???

>>688626629
Place on your tinfoil hat m8, those aliens gonna read your mind otherwise.

>>688626612
>mentally ill
>I KNOW BETTER
>THE MACHINE TELLS ME WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG
>THIS DOES NOT COMPLY WITH MY PROGRAMMING

stay asleep then

>>688626767
>>I KNOW BETTER
see>>688626721
Seriously wtf is wrong with delusional niggers like you, do you all sleep with tinfoil sheets too?

>>688626928

I can't tell if this is a meme, but asking what is wrong with delusional niggers could probably be traced to the brain. :^)

>>688626928
You are literally talking in cyber space about what to do with another human being who thinks invisible forces are working behind the scene against him.

Talking about psychiatrist on him.

You are literally out to get him. YOU ARE PROVING HIM RIGHT.

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>>688626067

I'm the guy who "abandoned his friend." I agree with this.

If you really care then get a doctor to talk to him.

But also you could do other things. Something likely happened to his fundamentals, so you have to rehabilitate the deepest parts of him. Then you bring him back to civilization.

Instead of a doctor, you could talk to certified life coaches, personal trainers, etc. and get them to talk to him.

You could also help him by helping him plan out his goals. What does he want to do with his life, what are his dreams? He needs to get in contact with people who are pursuing similar dreams. He needs to find people to look up to, as well, and build up the courage to contact them!

>>688627114
>Talking about psychiatrist on him.
Psychiatrists aren't the devil out to get you faggot, they try to help people overcome some problems in life like the temporary psychosis his friend is suffering from. But clearly your life is all sorted out living under a tinfoil teepee, with a tinfoil blanket and tinfoil hat. Why seek help when your m8 could be just like this upstanding individual.

>>688627405
Holy shit no wonder people kill themselves.

What right do you have to call a doctor on him?

>HURR DURR BETTER FIX HIM

What right do you have to control his life?

Why do you think you know better?

You are literally fucking nobody. You don't know fucking shit.

You are a part of the machine, you are a fucking NPC.

>>688627481

Imagine you as a psychologist. top kek

>>688627624

If people go on their own accord, there may be a higher chance of better outcome.

>>688627700
>Checked
Also lol, if I were a psychologist id tell any personality disorder individual sometimes death is the better solution. Can't fix it, best decommission it.

>>688627624
>You are literally fucking nobody. You don't know fucking shit.
>You are a part of the machine, you are a fucking NPC.
Nigger's clearly stuck in GTA how's life out there CJ?

>>688627853
Just leave the dude alone. We are fucking aliens on a rock floating through the abyss. Why do you give a single fuck? Why do people feel the need to interfere in people's shit just because they think they know better? You don't know shit. We are all going to die very soon. Don't dick around in other people's shit, it's none of your fucking business. Worry about your own life before you go digging around in other people's business. You're not wanted.

>>688627909

kek

>>688628090
Nice joke. Sounds like something an android would say.

>>688627624

Yeah but if you read the rest of my post I significantly diverted attention away from the idea of doctors.

In theory, doctors should be no cause for concern. But we live in a fucked world where, indeed, we say "calling a doctor on him" rather than "calling a doctor for him."

The materiality constraint dictates that I should stop explaining myself to you right now. Thanks for fuck.

>>688628132

I disagree.

>>688628349
fuck off and mind your own business

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>>688628413
Well aren't you a special snowflake.

>>688628349
>The materiality constraint
FUCKING LOLWUT, oh you crazy niggers always send my sides into orbit.

>>688628509

No.

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I am leaving this thread you nigger faggots.

You guys make me sick : )

>>688629006
back to /r/eddit with you

>>688629006

You're exiling yourself.

>>688629154
Fuck Reddit homie, the only page I visit on Reddit is the BJJ page and that's it.. /b/ is my channel of choice.

Anon

>>688629304
>Fuck Reddit homie, the only page I visit on Reddit

holy shit just fuck off already

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OP here

I'm probably not going to do much and just leave him be for the time being. Might ask about it every now and then.
If I start to get really concerned about what he's doing, I'll brief some family members in hopes he tries to share his thoughts with them.

Remember kids, don't do drugs ELEGIGGLE

>>688615937
Well, maybe it's your own interpretation of what he is saying that is off. When he says the "devil," maybe it's because he doesn't know how to express that he senses the awful things in the world. It could be that his paranoia and fears are just manifesting themselves in his mind as the "devil". Fears, hate, anger, etc. are things we all deal with. Most of us can hide it and avoid verbalizing them, but some get to the point where it becomes impossible to do so. Thus them becoming paranoid and anxious. I'd say he's having more of an existential crisis. It's good you are concerned for him,your friend just has to find inner peace id say. Then again, who the fuck am I to say anything. - Devil signing out.

>>688630482
Tell him to ask Jesus Christ for help.

>>688626067>>688622116
How would an event of paramount be anything but terrifying when it's nature is objectively profound? Any induced state of incomprehension certainly is subjective mental illness, recognition of some profound or complex understanding to which distort real-world acknowledgement due to 'apparent delusions' evidential in perception and conceptualization, any competence requiring dignity not provided dilute any true perspective of perceptual comprehension. To help discover the identity of the real issue for this perception your friend has, is to accurately define from his afflicted perspective solely at his capacity, take into account your perspective second, you need to establish how to define your own perception of his perception by projecting POV-bias to the issue first then troubleshooting. You can relay better perspective to your friend when you can objectify his subjective understanding by asking to better understand for yourself the nature of issues and wholesomely inquire researching to engage clarity for actual epiphanies of his lucidity for true perspective assisting comprehension to complicated state of current understanding otherwise the issue is unbeknownst and befuddling. Dissolve irrational thinking with casually honest practical conversation

Fuck the guy that abandoned his friend, clearly is no friend at all 711 bitch. You did a good thing, not pretending to be friends with someone anymore. Because you're an asshole out of the blue

>>688622130
what kind of issues caused to you?
usually I smoke marijuana every night.

>>688630482
>ELEGIGGLE
Found the problem. Underaged kids shouldnt touch drugs.

>>688630946
This is the best answer so far. How to fight the devil? Ask help from god/Jesus.

>>688632227

It just made my life harder in general.

Doing LSD for a few months made me realize I never wanted to go back. It felt like a red pill, and my past beliefs about weed felt like part of the suite of the blue pill.

I am always tempted to smoke again, but I would be happy if I never did again. Even if Snoop Dog were to ask me to take a rip, I would be the asshole that says, "no thanks."

Try this little experiment: smoke weed, then lay down and let yourself think evil thoughts. Let go of your mind and allow yourself to fantasize free-form about any evil things that pop up in your mind.

That experiment for me produced the most intense hallucinations I ever experienced on weed, about three hours after having smoked.

Umm. Oh, do you know erowid.org? Best website. Do it. Find the experience reports for your drugs of interest.

>>688633257
>If you hallucinate on weed you suffer from an underlying mental illness
True story

>>688616849
Flashbacks don't mean you've fries your brain, they just feel like deja vu and they're pretty cool as long as they're not from a bad trip. They eventually subside anyway. I would say convince him that the devil is within each one of us, every single human being, and since this reality belongs to him, really everyone is out to get him. Tell him that all the evil in this world is leading up to HIS death, not ours, as we are all a figment of his imagination.

>>688619048
Weed used to give me some nice flashbacks. He needs to cut down on both if he's having bad FB's

>>688615937

Pretend to be devil. So easy...

>>688633257
>Even if Snoop Dog were to ask me to take a rip, I would be the asshole that says, "no thanks."

Fuck Snoop Nigger. He's a celebrity sellout.

Say "I am the Devil" or "LOOK OUT HE'S RIGHT THERE"

>>688633632

>An unfalsifiable hypothesis presented as a statement of fact to discredit an author ad hominem.

Alright. Here's what's up. His brain, right now, is considering a million things at once. He's cross referencing all of his memories with a single question: "Could it be that the devil was after me this entire time? Why did I never notice before?" He's looking at every scenario in like a bunch of different ways, and essentially rewriting his memory so that it fits that narrative.

That is what LSD is for--rewriting your personality. It is called blank slating, or if you're feeling cute, "tabula rasa."

There's a couple ways to unwind this. First way is to be clever, supportive, and to listen. Actually authentically consider the possibility that there is a person, who considers themselves "the devil" (might be just a regular dude, who uses that nickname) that might actually be out to collect on this guy's money or some shit. Y'know, maybe he's actually telling you some regular people stuff, that happens every day, but just using very poetic language. And then try to sell him on the idea that this is what he's doing, and talk him back to whatever version of reality you think is the right one. This is what scientific skepticism was invented for, man. Call him on it. Be like "Okay. So maybe the devil is after you. So what? Just do what you've always done, and everything will be fine."

Second method is to just redose him in a few days, and this time put on Grateful Dead, burn incense, watch carebears, do pretty much anything except spooky scary stuff, and his fragile mind will settle into a chill state again. It's really that easy. Like, there's a reason this shit is illegal, and why the CIA uses it to get confessions out of people, by attempting to rewrite their personalities. This is about as close to real brain washing as you get.

>>688631271
He certainly is a fucking snake. Fuck you OP.

>>688634367
>>An unfalsifiable hypothesis presented as a statement of fact to discredit an author ad hominem.
No one ive ever met bar 1 person has hallucinated on weed and hes a fucking psychopath, are you trying to tell us something?

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>>688635241

I dive deeper than they.

>>688635475
>I dive deeper than they.
You are truly a piece of work, kudos to the person that raised a piece of shit like you hope you an hero sooner rather than later.

>>688635539
thats no nice anon go to sleep someone is getting grumpy

I used to be in that state.
If he hasn't hit the level of reptilian mind-rape and understanding that the Luciferian construct is how we navigate multi-planar reality then he's more than capable of being reconditioned to accept the consensus reality.
Just wait until he realizes he's never been in control of the outcome of his life lol.
That was always a bummer.

>>688615937
Tell him to stop being selfish.

>>688635627
>thats no nice anon go to sleep someone is getting grumpy
Neither is being so delusional and brain damage that a substance that DOESN'T have the capacity to create hallucination does in the mind of the mentally ill, truly makes me wonder how dysfunctional they are that the chemical proccesses in the brain are capable of producing something that isnt possible for the average person.

>>688635745
fuck i really wnated to try lsd but i guess not anymore

>>688635847
It is generally not advisable for the fragile-minded.
You can always zone out to Adventure Time though.

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>>688635539
>>688635830


You see this pic? That's you.

Go to bed.

>>688635938
ya but i have always had that little fear of seeing demons and crazy shit like that

>>688635975
kek

>>688636048
>ya but i have always had that little fear of seeing demons and crazy shit like that
Only happens if you are mentally ill, worse that happens if you are not you think you understand something extremely epic and profound when really its just drugs mang, or you suffer temporary psychosis that should wear off at the end of the trip if you arent fragile, I instrospected the shit out of my largest trip and im not more insane than I was before I started.

>>688636048
Sometimes you can be raped in every orifice by your dealer who turns into a mixture of Cthulhu, a tarantula, Satan, and a tyrannosaurus rex.
You come back from that once you realize that life is basically a movie and you're the star.
Devil's operating the camera though so watch out.
My point is stop being a fucking bitch.

>>688636195
so if i am not mentally ill would you recommend that i try lsd and would it not give me a terrifying experience

>>688636336
have you ever had any bad expericenes talking lsd

>>688636579
I've learned to enjoy them.

>>688626474
HALELUYAH THERE ARE REAL PEOPLE ON 4CHAN

CAN YOU HEAR ME ITS OSCAR MIKE THE EAGLE HAS LANDED I REPEAT THE EAGLE HAS LANDED

>>688636656
fuck that ill just stick with my mdma and coke

>>688636827
K.

>>688636827
K.
I don't get why bad trips are any less profound.

Tell him to drink a whole bottle of dxm cough syrup, that should fix him.

>>688636827
Bad trips teach you shit. Unlike fucking coke. Watse of fucking cash. Feel you on that MDMA though

>>688636402

I'm not that guy.

I love LSD, but if you don't know shit, which seems to be the case, then don't jump into a barrel of snakes, as they say.

Of course, you're not going to do much homework about this. You'll just do it with your friends when they have it. And probably smoke weed. And be in a bad environment. And decide that LSD is "too trippy" and then simply you won't benefit from it in the future because you have your mind made up about it. And because you smoke weed with your friends.

That's if you smoke with your friends.

Fuck it. Crash course:

1. LSD comes in "tabs" which are pieces of paper. If it tastes bitter or it makes your mouth numb, it's not LSD, *spit that shit out.*

2. LSD makes you emotionally sensitive for 8 hours or so. Are your friends REALLY your friends? If not, you're going to find out the hard way if you hang out with them on LSD. (but if you smoke weed, you'll simply have a traumatic yet unintelligible experience which you and your friends will be able to write off as an aberration in the future.)

3. Do LSD with your best friend, in the best place possible, at a time when you can be worry-free for a whole day! No fear of cops, people randomly imposing themselves on you, lacking necessities such as food, water, warmth.

4. LSD is the best drug in the world! Research it! Of course, it's illegal; so it can only be a hidden hobby at best. It's also misunderstood even by most drug users.

best of luck

>>688637184
ive just heard so many bad things about bad lsd trips and people commiting suicide to end the trip so i can only imagine how terrifying an experice like that can be to end your life in order to end the trip

>>688637596
You need to make up your own mind about it. Visit sites about LSD but you've gotta keep in mind a lot of sites want you to not take acid and are going to exaggerate stories to persuade you not to do it.

>>688637596
Okay. So, here's how this works. If LSD makes you imagine terrible things, then probably don't take it, because whatever you imagine NOT on LSD is going to be about 10x more vivid when you are on it.

Some people take meth (or "Molly" as they brand it nowadays) to put themselves in a good mood before they take LSD. Personally, I think this is kind of lame, because if you're not in control of your own emotions, you have no business fooling around with behavior modifying narcotics. But whatever rustles your Jimmies, I guess.

>>688637866
i have also heard a lot of good stuff about lsd and how it can change your life in a good and open your mind but like i said there is still bad things that could happen. like i said i really want to try lsd and if i do i will have some of my good friends to watch over me. some of my friends have lsd and really try to convience me to do lsd but i have been to scared to try it. but i think my fear is irrational if i do have a bad trip it is just the drug i am not in any real danger

>>688637596

Kings tried to ban coffee because people would talk about government and religion all night at coffee shops.

Counter-intelligence is, perhaps, a spooky term that I could use to refer to the strategies and tactics whereby the world's population is kept ignorant and averse to psychedelics.

Drug illegality itself is a huge asset to whoever is taking advantage of our ignorance of the proper roles and functions of government.

>>688637579
I recently did 500 ug of LSD and thought I was dead and that the only way to get back was to kill myself. I grabbed my gun, pointed it to my head, and pulled the trigger. Luckily I had removed the firing pin prior (but I didn't know that while tripping).

protip: don't trip within easy access to weapons

>>688638224
yes i will take molly so that it will put me in a positive state before i take lsd that way i will not be having anxiety and fear

>>688637596
Maybe I'm just a badass, but it's pretty cool to see your entire mind crumble into a state of paralyzing psychosis where the only reprieve is a bullet to the head, and woowee, you haven't seen the reality of contemplating suicide until you're confronted with the very real potential of it occurring in the grips of an acid trip, like it's so absolute.
Then bam, you can flip on a childhood cartoon and suddenly life's miraculously not so bad.
I guess because it would take an occurrence such as that to make you truly appreciate the sanctity of life.

>>688638868
mabey you are a badass lol, but i dont think the average joe would enjoy something like that

>>688639095
It's an acquired taste. A lot of people enjoy scary movies, so I don't understand why they wouldn't enjoy a bad acid trip where disbelief is forcibly suspended.

All the times I've done LSD without smoking weed, I have only felt 100% clear-headed.

LSD is truly the drug of peaceful futuristic aliens. Like Vulcans.

I would say, if you smoke weed the day of doing LSD, all bets are off. You ain't my responsibility.

>>688615937
Satan is a construct of the Bible.
If your friend isnt religious, nothing to worry about.

If he is religious then he should know that God created Satan fully knowing the role he would play.
Have faith in your Lord and there is nothing to worry about.

>>688636402
Do smaller doses first, 50-150uG max. You will see fractals and all sorts of cool shit, text will appear to glow and jump out at you and everything will seem surreal and interesting. Go further and well everything starts to become dissociated and truly fantastical. Viewing infinity and crazy shit like that, but don't ever think you understand things beyond your grasp. Become introspective and try to understand everything you think you learned, alot of it will be "High Logic" which doesn't actually mean shit when translated to everyday.

>>688639536

What do you think of the concept of Chaos?

Is it that which exists outside the order God creates?

>>688639342
a movie and a trip are totally different. durring a trip everything seems so real that you forget you are tripping,and durring a movie your mind is concious of reality and it knows that it is just a movie and that nothing is happening

>>688639791
Right but the point of a movie is to be as immersive as possible.