>>688578525
Ooooh shit...here we go!

>>688578525
>forgets that without the guns, maybe we wouldn't have such a huge n of "rampage" shootings

Now I'm totally for 2nd amendment rights, and I love my guns, but these numbers are fucked. There are plenty of other useful statistics you can use that aren't complete bullshit.

Fuck off OP, stop posting bait and maybe this website would have a decent discussion every once in a while.

>>688578525
Kys faggot

>>688578906
Prove to me how these numbers are inaccurate

>>688578525

don't give a shit about the numbers, the mexican carry image tells me that whomever created this image is an idiot...

>>688578525
Why do you think those went on the record as shootings stopped by the police and not by civilians.

>>688579301
Retard... That's police sop

>>688579127
Most shootings take the lives of one or two people, not fourteen. Plus, most shootings are stopped by police, not civilians. Unless you live in Syria or some shit.

>>688578811
But then if a criminal happened to not obey the law, what would happen?

>>688579538
Because police are late to the party. They're busy planting drugs on niggers

>>688579547

retard, image on right is not SOP

>>688578525

Cancer can eat cancer.

Therefore, everyone should get cancer to protect themselves from cancer.

Oh wait....

>>688579669
"Rampage" shooting
>the hand that killed your sons now masterbates to the memory

and why the fuck is the guy in the picture being used as an example when he isn't even wearing a holster

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>>688579780
Bet me a steam game

>>688579942
Rampage shootings are defined as shootings that take the lives of 2 or more people. How many of these shootings do you think take over fourteen lives? It's a fake statistic.

>>688579970
because it's almost like this picture is for crazy uncles to chain-mail, not to inform

>>688579970
Because the loose waistline provides for easy access

>>688580230
>How many of these shootings do you think take over fourteen lives?
The ones we have to wait for police to intervene on

>>688580230
You mean "mass shooting"?

No one calls it a rampage

>>688579673
psssss, like that would ever happen. And france doesn't count !!

silly americans. when will they learn. when will they ever learn.

Do you know how many deaths in shootings there would be if no one had guns?? None

>>688580500
Haha police intervene when a faggot brandishes a weapon, where the fuck do you live?

>>688580569
I just called it rampage, so how can you say "no one" calls it that?

>>688580626
Do you realize that even if you banned guns the homicide rate wouldn't change meaning a gun ban didn't make anyone safer?

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>>688580702
Murica

>>688580723
Because your special snowflake "I wanna be different" is not an argument

>>688580570
kek

>>688578525
OK lets just accept these simple facts:
1. america has soo much gun(illegal/legal) in circulation that any law banning it would be retarded.
2. Americans think that guns can save a life when its main purpose is to kill. yeah they are that stupid
3. This phenomenon only happens to 3rd world countries in civil war in which the populace is armed, and surprisingly in america which is supposedly a 1st world country.
4. Any other country that is not in a civil war does not even come close to american gun violence.
5. Its a fact that no one can do anything about this gun culture in america so everyone just shut the fuck up

>>688579942
https://youtu.be/1FQ1rmNqmvY

>>688578525

>More bullets in the air = less death

America, ladies and gentlemen.

>>688581546
States with more gun ownership have less gun crime

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>>688579799

This is actually a damn good analogy.

>>688581025
Are you talking about the whites or the blacks... because gun violence is very different when you stop prepping the bull and actually look at where those numbers come from.

>>688578811
Maybe in dream cupcake world where we can make all guns go away. Even then niggas would be stabbing bitches to death, just like before the invention of guns.

>>688579748
There's plenty of drugs on niggers. No need to plant shit, homey.

>>688581986
dont be delusional
we all know black on black crime is high
but we also know 99% of the mass shooting come from white people
stop being racist and accept america as a whole nation you faggot

>>688581897
Except the cancer will be there regardless.
And cancer doesn't kill cancer you stupid fuck. It's a terrible analogy.

If anyone needs a reminder to know this they're stupid .

>>688582270
Yeah and compare the number of mass shootings vs nightly gang on gang homocides. Nigs are wiping out generations yearly.

>>688582054

Canada, number of mass shootings since 1700 : 26

America, Number of mass shootings since 2013 : literally unknown because of how often people get shot.

The problem is not the gun the problem is this culture of people pretending they're in some kind of action movie. A culture of gun glorification from the gangster movie to the all american badass solving all of their problems with the pull of a trigger and a bodycount.

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Only a dumbass Republican could think MORE guns means LESS shooting.

Same people who think evolution is a myth and that vaccines cause retards.

>>688582523
who the fuck really cares about nigs dying
but white people killing innocent people, students, children, parents
yeah niggers who have 0% in being successful in life matters more

>>688582769
>America, Number of mass shootings since 2013 : literally unknown because of how often people get shot.
less than 150

mass shooting deaths are so rare you have a better chance at catching and dying of food poisoning

the media blows this shit out of the water, its rare, it doesn't happen often and when it does, 90% of them are gang related with gang and drug violence done with illegal guns anyway

>>688582988
Then why do most mass shootings happen in blue states with gun free zones

90% of shootings happen in gun free zones

yea that "gun free zone" really helped all those disarmed citizens

>>688582769
Take that number of gun homicides and remove suicides, accidents and justifiable homicides, then see how many come from gun free zones and gang violence. You'll see very clearly that minorities are the root cause.

And Canada? You're barely a legit country with your weedman. Gtfo

>>688581743
Causation != correlation

>>688582988

You're an horrible person. Not for the comment, for the image. My poor ravioli.

>>688583036
Well those numbers that come from nigs are used by the left to justify taking a law abiding white man's firearms from him.

>>688583260
That actually is causation

you can't just scream "correlation doesn't mean causation" when its directly causative that legal gun ownership leads to less gun crime

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>>688583053

>less than 150

Well as far as civilized countries go 150 cases of mass shooting isnt that bad.

I never said illegal guns werent a problem, I said the glorification of the gun was the problem.

>>688582988
Mutually assured destruction... More nukes than ever but less nuclear bombings... No?

>>688578525
MUH FREEDOM

>>688578525
Arm everyone with a single 30 megaton nuclear warhead. MAD will save us all, just like in the Cold War.

>>688583415
>mass shooting

is a buzzword

the glorification of mass shootings is a problem. The fact is that the media only gives a shit when they happen and when they do, if they learn its not a white guy they instantly stop broadcasting it.

Take for instance the recent UCLA shooting, someone shoots a teacher at a school the media IMMEDIATELY hawks on it until they learn that the guy was indian and suddenly forget about it the next day.

remember san beradino? same shit different day, media was praying for a moment to exclaim it was a white guy but when it turned out to be 2 dark skinned muslims they immediately forgot about it

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>>688578525
Average lives lost when they don't have a gun to shoot with 1.


Your argument is retarded and this is coming from someone who caries every day.

>>688583383
So how do you assume there's nothing else bossing the data?

Have you normalized for race, urban vs rural pop, income, etc?

You know nothing of math

>>688582988
Liberal cuck detected

>>688583944
Biasing

Also nice get

Daily reminder that most gun crime is done with illegal guns and no criminal ever listens to gun laws

gun laws only disarm the lawful and do nothing about gun crime ever.

>>688583881
You are an idiot if you believe that someone who is intent on breaking a law against murder will honor a law against procuring a firearm or other means to commit murder.

>>688583944
You're just interjecting useless paradigms to shift it

for example, Oregon has OC and every friendly gun law tons of other states have, it has very high gun ownership compared to other states

meanwhile just a trip over the border to california has the lowest gun ownership rate and the highest gun crime rate of any state in the union.

>>688583738

It's the medias fault for all this violence. of course

>>688583738
Media doesn't give a fuck
>it is bleeds it leads
Sounds like a good Hilary slogan for the general election

>>688578811

30,000 people die of gun related deaths every year in america. 2/3 of those are suicides. Trying to ban guns goes against an amendment in the constitution. You'd save more people banning refined sugar, tobacco, or alcohol.

>>688584343
They do give a fuck, I just listed two events where the media blatantly ignored the gun violence that was caused by racial minority

>>688584347
What the fuck is so great about the constitution?

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ITS A MATTER OF STATISTICS YOU FUCKING INBREDS. COUNTRIES WITH BANNED GUNS HAVE LESS DEATHS BY SHOOTINGS. ITS NOT THE 1900S YOU DONT NEED TO DEFEND YOUR LAND FROM INDIANS OR CAYOTES ANYMORE

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Hey guys
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>>688584532
>omg ban scary assault guns

>>688584486

Blatantly ignored? I think you're trying to find bias where bias doesnt exist.

>>688584532
Too Zozzle

>>688584599
freedom

>>688584707
The media has a huge bias you stupid shit

You really think MSNBC, CNN, Fox, and every big news outlet doesn't have a HUGE as adgenda to push you're out of your mind

>>688584752
You think that's air you're breathing?

>>688584532
False dichotomy

>>688579673
The issue is making it harder for them to get them. Noone thinks that disarming the public will lead to the Ed of all shooting but lots of people think it will massively lower the numbers and they might be right. The issue is that it's not reasonable to even begin such a process simply due to the nature of it. I purpose a system in which you can own whatever guns you want but they have to be kept in a state owned facility that you would need to check it out of. I'm sure there are flaws in my propagation but use the defence of "but then we couldn't overthrow an unfair government" becuase we already can't. The us military vs every armed civilian guess who wins?

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>>688584908
it meets the general definition for "air" yes

>>688578811
Because if we put a law against guns they disappear. How fucking stupid are you?

>>688584908
No, currently it is rum that I am breathing.

>>688584614
ITS A MATTER OF STATISTICS

COUNTRIES THAT BANNED GUNS DIDNT HAVE A DECREASE IN HOMICIDE RATE THEREFORE GUNS WERE NEVER A PROBLEM

>>688584906
Fox is fair and balanced. The mainstream media is not

>>688584811
Again this>>688584913

The reality is that no amount of gun ban will fix this tragedy that is called america.
Too much gun is already in circulation thus disarming people is just a bad decision .
But americans should also know that australia willingly gave up their guns once upon a time and their gun violence is significantly lower.

>>688585029
Only law abiding citizens obey the law

I ain't got half a half baked shit to give, to that there federal government taking away my freedom and liberties but I got this here fine piece of American Made death dispenser, than they can try and pry from my cold, dead hands... after walking through the wall of lead I gladly dish out in the name of freedom, liberty, The Star Spangled Banner and Jesus. And burgers.

>>688578525
Only if youre the only one with one and youre not using it.

>>688584811

Holy strawmen batman

>>688585131
Austrailias armed assault doubled after the gun ban

austrailias homicide rate did not go down after the gun ban. Violent crimes went up, in home robberies went up

the gun ban actually caused more deaths

>>688584614
Most countries that have banned firearms have had an increase in violent crime to include murder.

>>688580797
You base this information on What?

>>688578525
I am your walking talking reminder that people like me owning guns endangers you.

>>688584906

Calm the fuck down you raging dickhead.

Of course the media has agendas, I'm not arguing that.

I simply think that you're more willing to see it used when the media doesnt portray your precious guns in a positive light or when you feel like your precious second amendment is threatened.

I think you're hypersensitive to that bias. exemplified by your outburst

>>688585456
The fact that britain's homicide rate didn't go down after the gun ban, meaning the same number of people died every year which means the gun ban did nothing

>>688585344
You've got to crack an egg to make omletes

daily reminder that bad guys can't get guns if they're banned.

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I keep a gun on me at all times when I'm around you shifty foreigners.

When there is peace on earth and animals willfully crawling up onto the dinner table, I'll get rid of my guns.

>>688585567
>There is no bias
>the media is pushing an agenda
>I know that

Nice hippocrisy

>>688585295
In fact home invasion was so new to them that they did not even know how to prosecute the rash of home invasions that occurred after the ban.

>>688585248
Ok smartie. Whats the straw man?

You dont even know what the words youre using mean.

>>688585476

This comic is so SMART! It's not a strawman at all!

>>688585295
lol good try
australian gun related violence is way down
violence with no gun has gone way up
this just explains that Australia has significantly reduced its gun crime, but everyone knows that with or without a gun australians are stupid violent fucks.

>>688585827
>dumb comic from a dumb artist shoe horning an argument based on a false dichotomy to strawman the opposition

I bet you think an AR-15 is an assault weapon and a mini-14 is a "hunting rifle" what ever the fuck that means

>>688578525
people who believe the world should be weaponized with always be the bottom of the barrel loser retards with zero intelligence.

I 100% promise this is true

>>688585476
That is the stupidest shit ever and makes no sense in reality.

>>688585779

At what point did I say they didnt?

Reading comprehension is a valuable skill

>>688585903
If you ban a tool for killing and the killing rate didn't change that means your ban did nothing to save more lives

>>688578525
Guns are fine but let me know when you're ready to head to the weekly militia training. Maybe we can car pool?

>>688585827

The strawman is claiming that gun right activists point fucking guns at eachother. You've misrepresented a position to make it look idiotic when that position isn't part of the argument the other side is making. The literal definition of a strawman. STFU you fucking ingrate.

>>688585650
See this>>688584913

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>>688580702
You know "carrying" and "brandishing" are different, right?

>>688578525
DAMN IT, SHIT! IT'S FUCKERS LIKE YOU PROMOTING GUN VIOLENCE LIKE THIS THAT CAUSE THOSE SHOOTINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE. THE NUMBER OF DEATHS WITHOUT THIS PATRIARCHY WOULD BE ZERO! I CANNOT BELIEVE THE IGNORANCE OF THE 4CHAN, ESPECIALLY B!

>be a serial killer
>"hmmm, where oh where can I get a gun to kill my next victim??"
>"oh darn... I forgot. Guns are illegal. Guess I'm gonna have to put my serial killing on hiatus until I get the proper credentials to acquire a firearm... silly me."

liberal logic

>>688578525
>posts "study" where data comes from half-assed googling courtesy of dailyanarchist.com
no wonder you used tinyurl

Daily reminder that gun crime is mostly done by criminals who couldn't legally own a gun anyway

Daily reminder that gun crime is most often done with already illegal guns

Daily reminder that gun laws only affect the law abiding

Daily reminder that lawful gun owners don't cause the crime

Gun control can work, if it's strict enough.

Japan had 4 shootings deaths last year.

FOUR.
THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

HAD.

FOUR.

SHOOTINGS.

You can't tell me with a straight face that gun control can't work, when there are countries that prove that it DOES.

>>688586229

AS A PROUD DEMI-ROMANTIC PLANTKIN, I AGREE THE PATRIARCHY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL INTERPERSONAL VIOLENCE. GUNS ARE METAL REPRESENTATIONS OF PHALLUSES MEN USE TO RAPE EACH OTHER WITH BULLETS

>>688585978
Promise all you like. It is still false and you are an idiot living in a fantasy world.

>>688578525
nobody wants you here /k/

>>688586401
>a country that is an island with no neighboring third world shit holes doesn't have influence from neighboring shitholes
>meanwhile japan has the highest suicide rate in the world

>>688586035
kek
this just signifies that if they still kill each other without using a gun that country is full of violent and murderous people and they should die.
but the key thing to this is that you reduce "GUN RELATED VIOLENCE" get that in your head mother fucker

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>>688585714
only the dead shall know peace nigger hurr

>>688585650
I wouldn't have a problem being there. I'd actually feel pretty safe around a crowd of people holding guns that share my same world views

>>688579127
>Prove to me
Nigga fuck off with the bait. Poof isn't "to" or for anyone. You sound like those dumb celebrities also fishing for attention by saying the earth is flat or some shit because no one has proven "to them" that they're retarded.
Grow up and learn how to analyze data.
I hate getting triggered but shit

>>688586401
Japan and America are two VASTLY different cultures.... You're comparing Apples to Nissans, fuckdonkey...

>>688584917
Uhhh I hope you realize the number of armed citizens today massively outnumbers the military

Plus they are not able to use tanks/planes when you have bad supply lines and the enemy could be any given civilian

>>688586597
I'd rather have gun related violence than a gruesome stabbing or cartel members hacking me to death with machetes

>>688586597
Gun violence is no different than Knife violence which is no different than any other violence with any tool

This means that your "gun violence" is inflated that doesn't mean anything

Would you rather
-get shot and killed
-get stabbed and killed
-get beat up and killed

oh man you banned the guns which means the killer then gets a screw driver

would you rather
-get stabbed with a screwdriver and killed
-get stabbed by a knife and killed
-get beat to death

oh wait it doesn't matter, you're dead regardless

This means you're not actually safer, you're not actually better off, you're not actually better in any way because your chances of dying didn't change at all

I'm glad I live in Canada knowing my older sister can go to university and my younger brothers and sisters go to high-school and middle school without worrying about a shooting happening every other week.

>>688579799
Except cancer still exists regardless of whether you get cancer or not

>>688586561
good try
japan is not number 1 but close

>>688581897
This is actually how most cancer that goes into remission does so. Your cancer can and does get its own cancer and then die of it.

>>688585903
Id rather fight off a man with a knife than a gun

>>688585978
Good luck proving it with a 3" folding knife.

>>688586597
>ban tool used for killing
>the killing rate doesn't decrease
>yea but we banned killing with that specific tool!
You're going no where

>>688586401
Thats because the japanese are too busy watching anime

Blacks are the street shooters and whites are the school shooters

>>688587075
I'd rather be a lawful gun owner that lawfully kills an invader with an illegal gun

>>688578811
>forgets that even if you outlaw guns, said rampager's would still get their hands on guns illegially or in the near future just print them with 3d Printers.

Having guns on the majority of the population reduces the time elapsed between when someone may start shooting innocent people, and when innocent people can shoot back.

fucking child mind

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>>688586975
no you stupid fucks
my point is that gun ban can work
you cant control violence because its the crazy people that do this
this just means that if gun ban doesnt work your country is full of shit fucks and you should die in that horrible country

>>688584532
>The vast majority of Muslim-Americans are
jihadist Islamicist sandniggers actively supporting the destruction of Western civilization.

>>688587163
Lmao, but that wont happen, your brain matter will be on the concrete before you know what happens

>>688587262
So you banned a tool to help save people

but the actual number of people being killed didn't go down

so that means your total murders didn't go down

which means people are dying at the same rate as before

which means they aren't safer

but you somehow think that because you banned a tool, you're saving lives or preventing more murders is a good thing even though you aren't at all.

>>688586977
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/la-loche-shootings-the-victims-the-town-and-the-tragic-tale-sofar/article28368674/

>>688578811
OK get rid of every gun in the world and make sure no one can ever make any more. Should I wait or have you realized what a dumbfuck you are?

>>688587262
>this just means that if gun ban doesnt work your country is full of shit fucks and you should die in that horrible country
So britain and austrailia are countries full of shitfucks because people get murdered at the same rate before and after the gun ban?

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>My rifle has killed fewer people than Hillary Clinton...

People keep saying that guns kill and they should be banned

but god damn I must be lucky or a good father because my guns are so well behaved they don't kill anyone

>>688586975
liberals and euro-islams live in a fairytale fantasy land of butterflies and unicorns, and in this majestic place, when you ban firearms, all guns dissappear from the face of the earth because The Government is really really really that great

>>688585650
If nobody was a nigger (sand, beans, or jungle), we wouldn't have to worry about everyone having a gun.

>>688587498
See

>every other week

Shootings are so common for you fags.
Read before you Google another article.

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>>688584532
No average gun owner looks at a shooting spree and thinks "Well, the victims deserved it for not liking guns".

Most muslims look at muslim attacks and think "Well, the victims deserved it for not following sharia/the will of Allah (pbuh)/etc"

So it's a false equivalency.

>>688586401
/thread.

>>688587580
yes and uk has more immigrants so its acceptable

>>688587475
you stupid dense fucker, i didnt say violence will go down. i just said "GUN VIOLENCE" will go down.
you might be the most retarded person ever.
you can rationalize a violent person, what im getting at is that gun ban can and have worked.
This just means that you stupid fucks are a violent and egotistical country

>>688587807
lol, sure you moron. Thats why most people who go postal are white. Fucking stupid fuck.

>>688587807
this...

if we're banning guns, then all the filthy nonwhites are getting gassed

>>688588230
>yes and uk has more immigrants so its acceptable
UK's gun ban was in the 90's

>>688578525
I'm not for taking away all guns (even though it is proven to work) I'm for bans on some weapons and increased checks. I have nothing to hide so I don't care if they check me over and over again. Also I dont see a point in owning certain guns, such as: assault rifles, automatic weapons, and very high caliber weapons. Most true self defense situations only need a 9mm or smaller caliber. There's no need for the others and just raises the possibility of issues with these weapons.

>>688586561
explain Australias gun violence then shitdick.

>>688584532
>Implying the majority of firearms owners are racist hicks.
I don't know anyone who enjoys firearms that thinks that someone should be denied their second amendment rights because of their religious or political views.

>>688588230
gun violence is meaningless when you removed the gun from gun violence

ALL YOUR GUN VIOLENCE CONVERTED TO REGULAR VIOLENCE AND NOTHING CHANGED

>>688588338
their homicide rate went way up because of the gun ban because criminals didn't fear getting shot when robbing houses

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>>688588215
negative

japan doesn't let niggers and mudslimes in

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>>688578525
fake and gay

>>688587798
So pretty much every race less fat than white?

>>688586401
japan has nearly zero black population and no minority gangs.

Your point isn't really relevant.

>>688587930
Oh so this doesn't count? Why cause it hurts your narrative? The point is that you and your sisters are not any safer against violence. The majority of what they now count as mass shootings are gang and drug related. The metric that the media uses now is 3 victims or more injury and death do not matter just have to have had 3 or more individuals in potential harm.

>>688588517
How is the NRA responsible for gun violence when the NRA sponsors only responsible gun ownership

>>688588489
lol. I saw this video on Farfromsubtle's channel

>>688588400
As ive said
im not trying to solve VIOLENCE because people are stupid fucks and you cant regulate that
But GUN VIOLENCE can be solved you stupid fuck
if your country still continue killing itself even without guns then you are doom to die in that violence and crazy country

>>688588400
no, something DID change... the violence increased.

guns are among the most humane ways to dispatch a human... much better than rocks, knives, forks, hammers, pitbulls, guillotines, etc

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>>688588726
>NRA sponsors only responsible gun ownership
now I know this is a troll thread.
Good day to you sir.

>>688587632
who did Hillary clinton kill? genuine question

>>688588400
This is retarded. Pulling a trigger makes killing someone allot easier so if all guns are banned then violence will go down. Look at Australia. They banned guns in the 90s. Haven't had a mass shooting since then and all around violence has decreased

>>688587930
Also this
http://www.shootingtracker.com/
look at what theses mass shootings were. Mostly gang and drug related.

>>688588810
>hey guys we solved this issue called "gun violence"
>oh boy are we all safer?
>actually no you're just as likely to get murdered before except it won't be by a gun
>oh ok I guess, but I'll still get murdered by other shit
>AT LEAST IT WASN'T A GUN

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>>688578525
This is true. I do believe that gun safety classes should be taught in all public schools. There are way too many kids who find guns and end up shooting themselves or others. They do it because they don't know how to handle the weapon or they treat it as a toy. If you teach your kids not to touch a hot stove, what's wrong with teaching them not to play with guns? The two things I've made very clear to my daughters is that every gun is loaded and pointing one at someone means you are ready and willing to kill them. America doesn't have a gun problem, it has a parenting problem. If anyone in this thread objects to this, you are an idiot and you should have a glass of bleach.

>>688589006
>Pulling a trigger makes killing someone allot easier
obviously not, if this was true then the homicide rate would go down except it didn't

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>>688588777
>begins at the gun store

>>688588810
>ban the guns and the gun violence will go away
>who cares about that when your overall violence doesn't go down, nothing changed
>yea but it wasn't a gun
>But you're not safer!
>yea but it wasn't a gun!

>>688588966
Citation?

>>688586100
lol

Anon dorsnt know how the strawman fallacy works. And assumes all of 4dicks is one other person he's having a conversation with.

Anon, you're so smart.

>>688589037
>hey guys look how stupid i am
>ohhh wait we are just in a country full of crazy violent people and we should just die
yeah because people cant control their urge to murder
very cleaver you retard
as i've said again and again, if you people still kill yourselves then your country is doomed to die and everyone else is happy to watch

>>688588966

SUICIDE SUICIDE SUICIDE SUICIDE SUICIDE

The picture is implying a kid is gonna accidentally shoot someone, it's wrong. 2/3 of america's 30,000 gun deaths are from SUICIDE

>>688589107
b-but dem gubmentz rayse mah chillren ryte, i don need ta be parentin, i gots to get dat rock

>>688589369
You have no argument, now you've devolved to name calling.

Its obvious you're all about side stepping an issue instead of solving it

You magically think that violence is worse with a gun and that banning the gun solves some issue even though the same amount of violence is still happening

>>688589006
Uh you obviously did not check this. Immediately after the gun ban in Australia all violent crime rates increased by a at least 20 percent.

>>688578525
Daily reminder that the US population is part nigger.

More guns = more niggers with guns = not safer.

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>>688588517
>100 mass murders
>not one of them has been stopped by an armed citizen
That's because when they ARE stopped they wouldn't be mass shootings by whatever arbitrary metric you use.

The only reason anyone could possibly support gun control is if they think that they should not be allowed to effectively defend themselves. In which case they are actively pro-rape, pro-murder, etc.

>>688588708
Did I say it didn't count?
I said that it doesn't happen every other week. And when it does happen it's mostly just things like gangs and drugs not schools and shopping malls.

>>688588976

Clintons have had a lot of people die with shady circumstances around them https://www.truthorfiction.com/clintonfriends/

>>688589457
hey guess what

like 9 kids killed themselves or someone else with a gun this year

9

fucking 9

like 9 out of 30k gun deaths

9 out of 250k+ different deaths

9

like an insignificant number libtards use to use as an emotional crutch

>>688589369
you obviously are either

living in a country without violent niggers (unlikely)

or

are a violent nigger (very likely)

>>688589457
this
/thread for what regards the left's statistics

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>>688587632
>>688589712
>you

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Gun control does not control crime, because by definition criminals do not obey the law.

>>688589555
you stupid fuck you didnt even see my first reply
ill give you a summary
some dumbass said gun violence can be solved with gun (really smart)
I said gun violence can be solved if you all give up your guns
then people said you cant solve violence
and then i said i never said i can solve violence but i know GUN VIOLENCE can be solved
so shut the fuck up you know im right

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>>688589829
>implying leftists support gun control
>conflating leftists with liberals

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>>688589520
>talks like a nigger
>makes no sense

>>688589709
Same as in the U.S. the majority of what are counted as mass shootings are gang and drug related. see >>688589033

>>688590053
gun violence is a meaningless metric because violence as a whole matters far more

you're hiding behind some shroud like "knife violence"

You're not solving an issue with a ban, you're just circumventing it.

You aren't right, you're side stepping and solving no issues

>>688589810
actually its the first one
most deaths where im from are more brutal, chopped human bodies to decapitation but less deaths.

>>688589457
I think it's more like 99% of them, anon.

Out of 12,000 deaths by gun per year, only like 150 are homicide, the rest all suicides, which don't count. And of those 150, all are from niggers robbing little old white ladies. Think of ur grandma, anon. Now imagine a nigger shooting her for no reason. That's why we need the gun manufacturers to keep making more, so we can issue 4 guns for every citizen. Every citizen should be required to pack a shotgun, rifle, handgun, and a dillinger for their sock or purse, at all times.

>>688589107
I agree

>>688578811
>forgets that guns cannot be "un-invented"

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>>688590053
Why the fuck is it more important to you that we solve "GUN VIOLENCE"? Is a murder worse if it's done with a gun rather than a knife or baseball bat?

"gun violence" is a term made up by fascistic liberals to scare people into supporting their statist policies.

>>688590053

So you're just displaying your manchild like fear of guns to the world.

Like... "Yeah, violence is fine and all. Just those guns, get those guns out of here"

>>688590244
I'm against violence, its why I'd rather shoot a deer in the lungs than bludgeon its skull with a baseball bat

>>688589266
But he could have disociations of some sort and could be talking to himself. I would think that you were actually part of this amalgamated internal dialogue, except other parts of his (or her, I guess) mind would have realized that although the definition of what straw man precisely is has eluded him, the illustration itself was effective.

Go listen to Modest Mouse and rave about how Bernie Sanders has changed your outlook to all the other freshman college faggots you pretend to be friends with to look cooler you pedantic yet ironically inelegant fuck

>>688590244
not being able to understand what i said
do you even have reading comprehension
i never said i can solve violence
but i know that gun crime which is rampant can be drastically reduced

>>688578525
>Average deaths in a shooting rampage without a gun: 0

And stop with your "criminals don't follow the law" bullshit. Black market firearms aren't found at your corner store. You gotta no people.

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>>688578525
lol faget, how do you kill .3 of a person?

>>688590651
nice bait

>average shark bites in swimming pools: 0

>>688590599

YEAH

Just like we aren't seeing the highest number of heroin overdoses in years because we banned heroin!

Wait... You're telling me.. Criminals break the law?

UN-FUCKIN'-FATHOMABLE

>>688589107
True.
Though it also has a gun problem, in that idiots have become so obsessed with them they've created an entire culture that revolves around them, and regard them as the end-all be-all problem solving tool. ...a stance reiterated by every fucking hollywood movie in the last 40 years, where all problems are solved with a gun or a gun causing an explosion. Israeli arms makers love hollywood jews.

>>688578525
This is why our politics suck, everyone posts mindless numbers on facebook or wherever with little context that place the issue in binary terms. It's easy to pick numbers that support any opinion. This is no different than people saying socialism will destroy/save America. It won't. Goverments have tried both and both solutions have had mixed results. We don't live in a monolithic world.

>>688590670
remove a limb

>>688590468
>>688590505
im not scared about gun
im just proposing a way to solve gun violence
violence will always be human nature, are you peoople really that dense
as ive said before people will kill people i dont fucking care because your country is full of violence fucks who cant control their desire to murder

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>>688590670
lol, learn how to spell "faggot" faggot.

>>688590785
Stop just saying every post you disagree with is bait. Actually engage in arguments. There are people who genuinely disagree with you.

>>688590943
the world is full of violent fucks who cant control their desire to murder and I'm not one of them so I have a gun

>>688590848
wow you're the one evading the topic
now heroin? yeah thats basically your argument
my argument is GUN VIOLENCE can be solved but VIOLENCE in general will be human nature
now its the population in that country decide if they let their criminal behavior to murder someone and i cant solve crazy.

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>>688591086
what a candy ass got

>>688590848
How many heroin overdoses would there be if you could buy heroin at Walmart rather than from organized crime?

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>>688590943

Yeah, America doesn't really have a gun violence problem.

It has an inner city violence problem, you know, the same places where guns are heavily restricted and gun ownership rates are extremely low.

>>688590934
When I say 'our politics suck' I meant flawed but the political system in America is still succesful but could always be improved and the problems we have today are not much different than what we faced in the past because we're still ulitmately human.

>>688590599
>>688590943
>gun violence
>gun crime
I've told you over and over, you must be fucking stupid or something but I'll try again:

YOU WILL NOT REDUCE VIOLENCE OR CRIME

YOU WILL NOT MAKE ANYONE SAFER

Even if you could confiscate every gun in the world (which you would not, criminals will never give up their guns), all you would do is bring us back to an age of melee weapons where bigger and stronger people have the advantage over smaller and weaker ones. You'd make it MUCH EASIER for my little sister to get raped and my grandma to get mugged, because they would have NO way to defend themselves against your average 250lb thug wielding a knife.

One more time:

REDUCING "GUN VIOLENCE" DOES NOT MAKE ANYONE SAFER

REDUCING VIOLENCE MAKES PEOPLE SAFER

>>688591355

Ask the Portuguese, they managed to cut heroin usage and overdoses in half by saving the money the spent on jailing users and spent it on treating users instead.

>>688591207
Yeah and they are fucking idiots. Glad I got a glock 19, so when Trump starts the gas chambers I can do my duty and round you mother fuckers up onto the trains

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>>688591086

>>688578525
Until you draw it.

Then you confim yourself as a threat, and I or any soldier or cop or 3rd shift security guard shoots you.

Safe.

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>>688591590
>so when Trump starts the gas chambers I can do my duty and round you mother fuckers up onto the trains

>>688591238
Not him, but if you can't fix violence then why does it matter if you ban gun violence.

Is gun violence inherently worse than other violence. If so, how? :^)

>>688591219
i also have a gun, 2 in fact
my country has heavy laws on gun, and we have little guns in circulation
therefore we have little gun related crime but more brutal killings like body chopping.
but in general less deaths

>>688578525
Look who it is again, ID Heaven. I'm fed up with your shit faggot. The other day when you called me a newfag, yeah, haven't forgotten about that yet.
Fuck you I've been on here for months and probably get on here more than you anyways.
Don't you know that you make yourself look like a newfag when you call others newfag?
Just because you learned how to hack your name and change it to "Heaven" does not give you the right to disrespect anyone at any time.

>>688590244
This. 100% this. I could not agree more. Of course banning guns decreases "gun violence." That's like saying banning forks decreases "fork eating." People are still gonna eat. There is a more or less even spread of violent people across the world, and banning guns does nothing to stop them from being violent, it just prevents good people from defending themselves from the violent people.

>>688591560
Okay well let's stop gun control and have gun addiction treatment centers instead.

You guys are fucking nutjobs.

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>>688591590
okay, I know that fucker is just calling things bait that he disagrees with.

But this is actually

>>688591798
nobody gives a shit about your shitstain country with a population of 100 turdskins

anybody that matters lives in the US