>>688298765

It's better to just live your life and try not to think about it.

>>688298765
Do you actually believe an invisible white man created everything you see around you? If so, who created him? Topfuckingkek you're stupid. If you love "god" so much maybe you should hang yourself and go meet him.

It is not. Think about time as a holographic projection. The further you go away the smaller everything becomes and eventually you are too far away to see anything

>>688299144
Yeah because god is just an old man living in clouds right

You apes have almost ZERO figures out about the world let alone the universe. And there has been zero evidence of any god.

Don't worry about it speck, all of humanity is nothing. Forever and always nothing significant. You'll just to crazy if you think too hard about it.

>>688298765
If there is a God I don't think he's showed me any compassion my whole life and I've never done a bad thing to anyone ever. If I met him when I died if be like "why in the hell did you let me go through all that shit that happened to me

>>688299536
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>>688298765
Atheists actually believe the earth looks like that

Atheism just means the disbelief in gods. It has absolutely not shit to do with any scientific theories about the origin of life. Horrible bait.

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>>688298765
The idea is called the primeveal atom, and it contained the mass of the universe in an infinitesimal point. Before you think that couldn't exist, you must consider that physics and time itself did not exist during the period before the Big Bang. I only have a layman's knowledge of astrophysics, but my personal theory is that the universe goes through a constant cycle of expansion and compression.

We very likely aren't the first universe, unfortunately, yes, it doesn't explain where reality comes from. Perhaps everything is getting sucked off from black holes into white spouts that reintegrate matter into other dimensions. The universe is just a big-ass recycler strung together by whatever the leading version of physics is.

So no, we didn't come from "nowhere", we just don't know exactly what the where is. If it helps you sleep at night, the man with the beard did it.

>>688299536
You are still here. You are alive. Whatever you want through made you stronger. I'm sorry you went through hardship but everyone goes through hardship that's life, God empowers us to get thru it and continue living

The "Big Bang" doesn't say that there was "nothing" it states that all the matter and energy in the universe was condensed basically as a singularity that became unstable, exploded and fast forward about 14 billion years and we have the universe as we know it. Well... verbatim.

>>688299688
you'd think, but those people are worse than muslims...literally pressure you more than any other religion

Funny that you think something coming from nothing is ridiculous, when that's exactly how your god came to be.

>>688299144
>Do you actually believe an invisible white man created everything you see around you...

Allah is not white, silly American. He is obviously Muslim, and therefore resembles Osama Bin Laden.

Alhamdulillah! Bismillahi rahmani Rahim!

OP stupid as fuck, you know nothing about the big bang if you think there was nothing before

>>688300100
That's not what we believe. God was always here. He was never not. He always was.

>>688299897
But didn't OP just decide to argue about it unprovoked?

>>688299688
It's not about the origin of life, it's about the cause of the existence of our universe, some believe it's spontaneous and has no cause, some believe there is a superior entity who created it

religion and science can coexist.
this thread is bait.

>>688300283
> Says something can't come from nothing
> Believing some old man made everything and he's always been here

topkek

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>>688300142
Shut up sand nigger.

Yo if you belive in the big bang-in a universe that created itself without an intelligent actor you need alot more faith than we do. Good luck sheeple

>>688299876
Medications damaged my brain permenantly. Did that make me stronger.
If God is real he's got a real sick sense of humor

>>688300565
Your brain was damaged the moment you came on 4chan, come on now.

>>688300494
Yup, enjoy following a belief system that goat fuckers have been following for millennia! The religious are the sheep, fact. Go die now.

>>688299825
But big crunch theory was refused when when scientist have observed the accelerating universe expansion

>>688300565
Maybe not physically but you are stronger in the sense that you have that unique experience and testimony. You can help people in ways many others can't. Also it wasn't God's fault that someone made a mistake. We have free will. God is good, you are here and have air in your lungs. Rejoice in that friend

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>>688298765
>absolutely nothing
>all of a sudden there was everything
Sounds a bit like something else, eh?

>>688300871
You must not have a lot of bad things happen to you. Stop talking like a fucking prophet with that "friend" shit. You get off on spreading this bullshit don't you. Just accept that were probably just a drop in the bucket when it comes to intelligent life.

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>>688298765

So, religious people believe we will live FOREVER. Think about that. About FOREVER. In 100,000,000 years after you have seen every movie ever made and read every book ever written over 9000 times, you won't even have started to live...in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 MILLENNIA, when you have literally visited every square inch of the Universe over 9000 times, and you are screaming insanely for this horrendous boredom and infuriating infinite torture to end, you'll JUST have started...

Eternal life sucks.

>>688301760
>eternal life sucks

not when you dont remember any of it.

>>688301760
Wouldn't new things be made infinitely after you're done doing those other things

>>688298765
>falling for the big bang meme
kek I'm atheist and I don't even believe that.

Also, God is a baby killing lunatic in all Abrahamic Faiths. God who has every super power ever, and can do anything including the coolest of all miracle magic shit, ALWAYS kills in the bible..he never moves people around telekine3ticvally to islands inhabited by angels or just changes their brain (FREE WILL!?!?! Where was Pharaoh's Free Will when God "Hardeneed His Heart" and MADE him change his mind???) and made them good...what kind of God creates beings who cannot understand "Good and Evil" and then punishes them for eating from the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, when they could not possibly comprehend what they did was wrong or evil???

IF your God exists (s'ok...it doesn't) he is a fucking moral monster worse than Cthulu and shit...

>>688301682
Of course I have had bad things happen to me. I believe I'm a good person as well. But that's life, it's a struggle. Bad things will and do regularly happen. God gives us the the strength to endure the trials of this world and continue living life abundantly.

>>688302081
Ah, so like reincarnation, this is a waste, since if you die and the YOU that existed is OBLITERATED away, and the new yopu that re-incarnates has NO CLUE about the last you, then it is STILL Oblivion....fuck my ENERGY living on...if I don't have identity as a being...

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>>688300870
I think it's just that we're still in the process of expansion and will be for a long time. Not a science fag, so idk for sure. Of course it's all theory. Pondering these kinds of timescales makes our lifetimes a tiny blip.

>>688302395
i know, but saying the big bang came from 'nothing' is just too damn ignorant.

>>688300303
If you or OP had even the most minute knowledge of science, or just the theory itself, you'd know that literally no reputable scientist is out there saying "NOTHING EXISTED EVER UNTIL THE BIG BANG!"

People go off spouting about how that's retarded because it IS retarded. It's an explanation for the current state of the universe (scattering of matter).

Obviously things existed prior to the big bang because they combusted into the fucking even itself.

>>688302616
you are stuck playing the game anon.
you cant just not play.

the point is to try and have fun and enjoy life.

>>688302468
Whatever helps you sleep at night dude

>>688299021

first post best post brotha.

this thread is bait, every reply in this thread is bait.

except first post.

>>688300494
Faith is literally the suspension of presented contradictions to your shit claim. It is synonymous with ignorance.

>>688302468
The only thing God has helped me realize is just how useless my existence is

>>688302699
Most cosmologists believe the big bang to be a localized event in the space-time multiverse. AREAS of space expand and it happens often, we cannot however SEE this, since the event horizon of our expansion blurs everything further out into nothing at the 13.7 billion light year mark.

>>688302871
faith is believing without seeing or understanding.
if you cant do this you are bound to such a boring world.

>>688302799
Thanks man. Nice dubs

>>688301760
This is why I've invested into reincarnation and the idea of material souls. The idea of one single eternal life not only sounds impossible; it sounds fucking horrible. You would inevitably get to a point where there's nothing left to learn morally, and at that point you would want nothing more than to just die.

>>688302757
I disagree. It is YOU playing the game.

For me, oblivion is fine. I have a son, and he rocks, and that is me living forever. And y'know if they find a way to make me live for as long as I want with DNA shit, so be it. If they find a way to upload me to some chappie like robot body that keeps me alive forever. Yay! nIf they find a way to grow empty bodies for us to inhabit and be downloaded to, I'm in. If I die at 75 having lived a cool life, thats ok too...and y'know, if I'm wrong and there is life after death, I'll enjoy THAT as well...

>>688302699
What a dummy

https://youtu.be/7ImvlS8PLIo

>>688298765
Be honest. You only made this thread because you're lonely and you knew if you said something controversial people would reply. All this so you could feel some small bit of human interaction

>>688298765
big bang is no more relevant than a mystical being appearing and thinking, oh hey, today is a great day to make ONE planet and fill it with cunts and make ONE sun so all those cunts can worship me for eternity or get fucked in fire if they don't.. yeah.. today will be great.

Well, it's certainly a more plausible explanation than a perfect being creating something imperfect.

>>688303253
so why are you complaining?

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>>688298765

Believe? Look a man of science doesn't 'believe' like that. Maybe the big bang happened, maybe not. How do I know?

Now pets put forth the supposition that OP is a worthless faggot? I think we can agree that this is true by inspection.

>>688300283
>That's not what we believe. God was always here. He was never not. He always was.
That's not what we believe. The universe was always here. It was never not. It always was. Fixt that for you m8.

>>688303564
We agree talking about two different things. Do you believe that God always existed? Good then we agree. We can debate on whether or not the universe always existed but that's a different claim

>>688303770
God never existed, the universe always did you fucking pleb cunt gtfo my /b/.

>>688303843
Got proof fedora?

>>688303941
>Got proof fedora?
Do you? Check m8.

>>688303843
God and the universe are one in the same. Not sure how hard this is to understand.
Whether it's one or the other is irrelevant. If it is one, then it is the other. It is not up to us to define "God."
There is something greater than us. We exist. We are here. And we will never truly know why.

>>688304027
I don't. But that's why I say I believe in God. You are the only one here thinking that you haven't employed faith in your beliefs

>>688304066
>Whether it's one or the other is irrelevant. If it is one, then it is the other. It is not up to us to define "God."
The circular reasoning in your arguement hurts, you just want to apply a concept you cant even begin to grasp to something you think you do and be like "muh mans in the sky did this" if it helps you not be a shit tier individual cause you believe "muh mans in the sky" i really feel sorry for you.

>>688300871
Good thing God sacrificed one his sons so he could warn the more important ones so they can be happy lmao. Stop rationalizing everything.

>>688304066
Um how are God and the universe the same thing?

a common argument for the existence of god goes as follows, what does /b/ think?

imagine a creature with no eyes, like a worm.
they can not see light. they have no ability to even comprehend light. even if somehow you could communicate with this worm and explain to it what light is, they still would have no idea what you are talking about because they simply cannot perceive it. light operates on completely separate plane from the worm yet still rots an apple that the worm then smells.

there is force operating on a separate incomprehensible plane that has very real effects on the plane of the worm.

>>688304166
>faith
strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.
I got some snake oil to sell you, cures everything in the universe. Why don't you buy some?

>>688304327
You've got something there. Did you quote something or just make that up

>>688304250
What I wrote is true, sorry if it's simplicity upsets you

>>688304357
That's not the definition of faith

>>688304534
Upsets me??? I wasn't being sarcastic man. That was a legitimate question lol. You seem tense haha

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>>688304528
i just said its a common argument.

heard it for the first time watching the movie "i origins"

its a great movie about a microbiologist trying to disprove the existence of god by fully mapping out the evolution of the eye.

its not a religious film at all though but does have religious undertones. definitely not biased towards one way or the other.

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>>688298765
>Not nowhere, dipshit.

>It came from what we PERCEIVE to be an infinitely small point.
>Who the fuck knows where it actually came from.
>I'm guessing it came from the same place that the universe is constantly
>expanding into/within.

>Just a personal theory.
>But really dude.. you're over-simplifying a theory way above your IQ level. Don't bother trying to rationalize it.

>>688304636
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
If you can trust something with 0 evidence you are a stupid nigger even by /b/'s standards.

>>688300283
Zealot's 'Escape Clause' detected.

>>688304838
Oh so just like you do for the big bang, the origin of life and macro evolution I assume... Also nice moving goalposts with that new definition

>>688305102
>Also nice moving goalposts with that new definition
I posted both definitions of faith you stupid nigger, also there is evidence that the big bang occurred can you say the same for the man in the sky? Didn't think so.

Religion is too heavy of a subject to discuss with anyone. Haven't you heard if you wanna make friends never talk about religion or politics at least not unless you know they have the same view on it as you.

>>688300494
>Member of one of the world's largest organised faiths.
>Calls non-believers 'sheeple'.

Call kettles 'black' much?

>>688304758
You didn't ask a question. God sacrificed himself, for us. That sounds like a good deal to me. You should try a good church one day bro

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>>688304835
woah
>whats beyond that always-expanding wall of the universe 0_0

>>688305282
Did you quote the right person just now

>>688305215
Evidence of the creator's hand is all around us. Open your eyes and pull back the curtain of blindness

>>688302417
Also, being omnipresent, he watches all of us fap!

Sick fucker!

>>688305487
>Evidence of the creator's hand is all around us. Open your eyes and pull back the curtain of blindness
So you provide no evidence than to say others are blind, you still provide nothing to support your arguement? no wonder humanity was stuck in the dark ages for so long with people like you in the world.

>>688305282
My uncle owns a church. I play in the band there sometimes. Some of the people there are pretty cool. But some like a lot of the people here just look down on everyone

>>688305601
This guys obviously just trying to piss you off man lol. I'd advise everyone to just move on from this shitty thread

>>688305798
>Anon provides logic, asks for evidence
>Abandon ship
Classic zealot

>>688305798
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>>688304838
>wake up
>see

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>>688305683
Try not to let those people spoil your time there

>>688302970
Faith is about chopping people down - often literally - if they don't share your belief. Christianity is the most guilty of this historically. It's basically a faith built on the bloodshed of other faiths.

>>688305938
wait... nothing-ness expanding into super-nothingness?

>>688303338
This.

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>>688306017
unless beyond the walls of our universe is infinite-something instead of infinite-nothing, and the energy from the supposed "big-bang" is pushing the walls of that infinite-something outward from a single point?

>>688305990
Yes that's what Christianity is all about. /sarcasm.

>>688302468
>God gives us the the strength to endure
except all the fucking people that die every day, right?
holy shit you're retarded

>>688306339
Those people should be enjoying eternal bliss now I assume. Physical Death is a part of physical life anon. We all will die. But before that happens God empowers us all to get up everyday and face the world head on with all its ups and downs.

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>>688306166
>God damnit guys get past all ur stupid faith bullshit and just explore the POSSIBILITY of it being the case. Set your short-sighted prides to the side for a fucking second and just think about more than just what you want to be the truth.

>>688306810
This

>>688306656
>Those people should be enjoying eternal bliss now I assume
only if they believe a dude walked on water, according to you, right?
>Physical Death is a part of physical life anon
there is no proof that anything else non-physical continues after you die. any assertion about souls and the afterlife is unjustified bullshit.
>God empowers us all to get up everyday and face the world head on with all its ups and downs
so if there were no god, don't you think it would look a lot like that anyway? people wake up and keep living until they die. oh golly gee whiz what a coincidence.

>>688306656
>Those people should be enjoying eternal bliss now I assume. Physical Death is a part of physical life anon. We all will die. But before that happens God empowers us all to get up everyday and face the world head on with all its ups and downs.
You really don't know life outside your bubble do you?

The Big Bang Theory was created by a Belgian priest named, George Lemaitre... what's you're point OP?

Well that's not how the big bang worked dude. So all the gases and matter in the universe at the time were compacted in to one point and released with a massive amount of energy thus resulting in reactions to produce solid matter, etc.

>>688307084
First of all I just answered the anons question. No need to get your panties in a bunch. Secondly if we don't believe the same things fine, you don't have to be a dick about it, I actually think your thorny response hurts your argument and your credibility.

I never claimed to have proof again this is my belief and I'm very happy with it. Do you have proof that there is no afterlife? No? Ok so why attack those who feel Differently from you? Insecure much?

And I'd there was no God there would be no people universe or free will and you wouldn't even have the opportunity to disparage him in the first place so no, no God no existance

>>688307136
Why do you say that I love in a bubble?

>>688307136
Why do you say that I live in a bubble?

we can see the big bang, so yeah it happened, the background radiation people always talk about is just the image of the big bang sooo redshifted its no longer visable

>>688307768
>God is omniprescent by your arguement
>He knows all things at all times and is all powerful
>No free will because he knows what is going to happen before it happens
>Predetermination
I poked a massive hole in that circular arguement with just a few lines and still you will argue that god = free will, if he knows all things we have no free will you stupid faggot.

I had a Big Bang with your fatty mother last night, OP

>>688304327
>>688304327
nobody has anything to say?

god: 1
atheists: 0

>>688298765
> Do you honestly believe in the "Big Bang"? There was absolutely nothing and then in a few trillionths of a second, all the matter and energy in the entire universe suddenly came out of nowhere?

that's not what the Big Bang is. no scientist in a relevant field thinks that. matter was homogeneous throughout the universe, not condensed into a single point, retard.

>>688299536
It'd be pretty sad if God didn't have more important things to do than be concerned about some guys happiness

>>688307990
God being aware of your future choices doesn't mean that you aren't the one choosing to do what it is you want to do.

>>688307768
>your thorny response hurts your argument and your credibility
Yeah, that's something a self-righteous Christian would say. Let's not address the meat of the matter, let's get offended at some bad words. Way to further the discussion.
>I never claimed to have proof again this is my belief and I'm very happy with it
Sums up your entire argument.
>Do you have proof that there is no afterlife?
Do you have proof that there are no unicorns? There must be unicorns then eh? Solid logic. Everything we know about biology, physics, etc points to no life after death. Damage part of the brain and you see an immediate impact on someone's cognitive abilities. The idea that we live on with our full cognitive abilities intact even though our entire brain is destroyed makes absolutely zero sense.
>And I'd there was no God there would be no people universe or free will
that's your unjustified assertion (aka bullshit with no evidence)

Religion is brainwashing.

>>688308148
Sounds like you atheists have to come together and figure out the official big bang story. I feel like I've heard 5 or 6 different versions in just this thread

>>688308188
If your actions are pre-known, it means that's the ONLY WAY events could have transpired. You didn't really have a choice, only the illusion of choice

>>688298765
>the big bang theory was literally invented by a priest to scientifically explain creationism
Fuck you OP

>>688298765
Because there's no explanation for a giant rock with some water on it other than "god did it", amirite?

>>688308390

It's sort of like when different Christians with no ecclesiastical training spout of their different interpretations of Christianity.

>>688298765
No i don´t trust the jew "scientists" spreading their satanic propaganda.
First the jews killed jesus and now they are trying to smear the name of his father by saying he didnt create the world.
Fucking Obongo is teaching our kids "evolution" and other shit invented by those greedy jews.

>>688308390
>Sounds like you religious zealots need to come together and figure out the whole god story. I feel like I've heard 5 or 6 different versions in just this thread.
Cause yknow, Big Bang is a theory for understanding which uses evidence. Religion is not. Religion is the opposite, it doesn't want people to understand because if they understood they wouldn't be so blissfully ignorant.

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Haha talking to closed minded atheists is suffering

>>688300463
edger

>>688308638
>closed minded atheists
>atheists have more scientific knowledge than most christians
>atheists have more biblical knowledge than most christians
>atheists are open to evidence and don't believe things without evidence
>theists believe whatever the fuck sounds/feels good
r u srs m8

>>688308620
Fuck off with your jewish lies Shlomo

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>>688308800
I wonder who is behind this post...

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>>688298765
There wasn't nothing. All matter and energy was condensed into an infinitely small point. This is the singularity.

>>688308455
This is chicken or egg tier. I make my choices. That's it. God knows the future.

I'm not religious myself, but food for thought. The elites of the world tend to say Jewish mysticism is the religion they choose, like Madonna in the 90s. Now, it doesnt matter what I believe because these people, including some at the top of our gov do indeed believe it. So many US military ops have had religious connotations in the mission names.

>>688308976
Do you really make your choices if everything goes according to god's plan? That means your "choices" are planned already. It's like a robot that thinks it's making choices. It's fucking not. It's really that damn simple.

>>688309158
Well, god makes the choices.
Fuck off jew

>>688298765
>There was absolutely nothing
Lrn2cosmogenesis fgt pls

itt: faggots personifying incomprehensible, inconceivable concepts.

>>688309362
Speak english you liberal jew

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>>688308800
>be atheist
>feel superior intellectually
>feel superior theologically
>feel superior morally
>not interested in opening up to information from an perceived intellectually theologically and morally inferior person
>call them names

This is why these threads are fucking torture

>>688309272
Yeah, according to the Christian worldview saying everything goes along with God's plan
Luckily that's all unjustified bullshit and we actually do make our own choices.

Stop calling atheists jews, retard.

>>688309158
I make my choices with regard for my plan. I try and match my plan with the Lord's plan for our lives

>>688309514
They're torture because people are arguing fact and evidence against belief and faith. Neither is ever going to convince the other side and it's just a huge circle jerk.

>>688309571
I´ll stop calling you a jew when you take off your fedora, get a foreskin and accept jesus as your saviour.

>>688309514
>>not interested in opening up to information
Nigger are you serious? Show me a theist who can provide any shred of proof or valid logic that wasn't instantly dismantled by critical thinking and reasoning, and I will listen. It's not like I ignored arguments, I fucking address them. What the actual fuck are you even talking about... God damn.

>>688309700
No, atheists in these threads are retards who take bait and argue with obvious trolls.

>>688298765
We don't have to know how it happened. We get to try and find out instead of make something up. Thats the beauty of it.

The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you.

>>688298765
Not out of nowhere.. You are the top kek

>>688309850
No you don´t.
You take the word of the liberal jews running the media and federal reserve destrying christianity.

>>688309808
I really wish I could believe that every deist in these threads are trolls but we simply know that is not true, given the sheer number of religious people.

>>688309962
You all try and occupy both sides of an issue. Make up your minds
https://youtu.be/7ImvlS8PLIo

>>688309971
holy fuck go away, shouldn't you be restocking your tinfoil?

>>688309023
Many unsuccessful people also have the same beliefs and get nowhere in life, you just never hear about them.

>>688300142
Allah s not muslim... How dumb can you be?

>>688309971
>jews
why aren't they forcing Judaism instead of atheism?
>running the media
who fucking watchs TV these days? People choose what media they consume. Even IF the jews controlled anything, it would make one fucking speck of a difference.

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>>688298765
What does this have to do with atheism?

>>688310115
JIDF detected.
I have proxies shlomo, your mossad wont find me...

>>688310243
Because the jews are "the chosen people".
They want everybody else to be godless and racemixed to beyond repair.
Then they can take over.

>>688310394
Sounds like a retarded, convoluted and plain fucking unworkable plan to me.

>>688310701
Well you´re implementing it right now Shlomo

That's why it's called a theory. God's existence, however, is not a theory according to the most devote.

>>688298765
First, there wasn't nothing. There was everything in the galaxy compressed into an infinitely dense point following a great collapse. Second, the big bang resulted from this point being so dense that it eventually became unstable and then exploded, resulting in the big bang. I didn't have to think about it because then I'd only be considering my perspective. Instead, I did research. Followed scientific fact. You're dogmatic religious doctrine doesn't take the one thing into account... Facts. Observable and predictions supported by none other than data. You have a book written by man assuming the nature of the universe with little to no scientific and verifiable as well as repeatable facts.

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>>688310701
Why am I even here

>>688306656

I'd say that you probably lean upon your belief-system out of a combination of fear, hubris, ignorance, short-sightedness and limited imagination. Those are, afterall, the most common foundational characteristics of theistic adherence. (All probably established and reinforced by years of dogmatic brainwashing inflicted by parents and social elements during the formative / developmental period of your childhood).

If you want the truth, go to God. He will reveal himself to you if you look for him. He is the Holy Spirit, a force of nature, essentially. Working behind the scenes, leaving his mark in the natural world.

>>688310918
You´re a fat fuck with no friends

>>688309476
okay
itt: faggots trying to understand something that is impossible to understand.

everybody on earth will have a spiritual experience at one point in their life.

theres a reason religion has been around for tens of thousands of years and its not going anywhere.

>>688311003
See
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>>688308166
That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. So he allowed me to be born so he could ignore me. What a bunch of bullshit

>>688312409
you are not a special snowflake.
not even in the eyes of god.

get over yourself and your mortality faggot.

>>688312524
Okay Brad Pitt

>>688312524
Morality? Do you mean vanity

>>688312524
Never mind read that wrong >>688312824

>>688312824
>>688312824
morTality.

>>688299647
What? You're telling me it doesn't?
Yes it does, prove me wrong!

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>>688298765
Atheism means to non-believ.
Or by other words, to only believe in something thats existence has been proofen.

Since the big bang is just a theory and it hasent been proofen yet, atheists dont believe in it.

Also your entire arguement is:
"Why do you believe in this shit that nobody can proofe, instead of this bullshit that nobody can proofe either....?

>why do you believe in these spectaculations
>believe in these spectaculations instead

>>688313163
0/10
and thread is kill already faggot

lets define "proof"?
or "evidence"

cuz people use faith or spiritual expriences as proof. and they can be reproduced easily with certain psychedelic drugs.

so.. is that enough proof for god to be real?

Yes. It literally could come into existence because there was no laws to say otherwise

"Love Jesus" they say. "Let him into your life"
How the hell do you love someone that doesn't exist? And why do so many believe in the bedtime story book called the Bible?

>>688298765
Matter and energy didnt appear at the moment fio the big bang it was all already there, just all in the same point. We have no idea where it came from

>>688298765
The only big bang I know of was with your mother last night

>>688298765
Why do christians never remember that the Big Bang was a religious theory proposed by a priest?

>>688298765
Implying that science is not a spiritual awakening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjW5-4IiSc

>>688302970
Are you implying that faith is important because it's less boring and not because it's the truth?

>>688313059
Watch this bro
https://youtu.be/h5i_iDyUTCg

We can't prove anything

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>>688313990
I don't have a problem with the big bang per se. To me I can imagine God creating the universe with a 'big bang'
Infact I don't have a problem at all. Atheists take issue with deiests for existing and science seems to work not to find truth but to try and disprove God whenever the topic of the supernatural comes up

I am half alien and i know most of the answers, my father is an alien hybrid working for the govement, anyway,
there is nothing and there is, you feel when u actualy u dont, you see when actualy nothing exzist to see, there was no bing bang out of nothing there was not a thing called god, god is a project of the future humans created,
THe universe is an endless loop of time when we actualy in the future we reach out of the end of the universe and the universe itself stops to exzist so the people who passed over the universe create the universe from the begining again from a simple atom simulation of maths, and so they are gods, each time we reach the end of the universe the project god dies and the universe itself dies, and we become the god project

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>>688315161

>science seems to work not to find truth but to try and disprove God whenever the topic of the supernatural comes up

This is nonsense. "The supernatural" has never been demonstrated to exist.

>>688314326

Partially correct. "Proof" is for mathematics, and alcohol.

>>688298765
I know these threads are bait but whatever. Of all the hundreds of religions that have countless members, the one that your parent(s) raised you with is the right one? Science is different from religion, in that the ideas that come from science can achieve something. We have scientists talking about vaccuum tubes, all of a sudden we have TV. A few nazi rocket scientists after WW2, all of a sudden we are on the moon. Religion has the same promises over and over again all we have is war between uneducated idiots. The big bang is the best theory science has to offer right now. It might change, hell, it will change. Difference is science has the results to back their theories. Its not hard. If you were raised with religion you aren't betraying your parents by questioning it, so just relax.

>>688315735
Life itself is supernatural. Consciousness is supernatural

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I am a shape.

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>>688317047
>Consciousness is supernatural

>>688317299
Consciousness is natural?

>>688317047
Consciousness is not supernatural, nor is it relegated to the human race.

>>688317371
Yes, it exists in nature therefor it's natural.

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>>688317371

In a weird sort of way even Christians believe in a 'big bang' ,even if it did take a week , the whole universe from nothing ... anyway , since the resurrection of Christ ... what amazing world changing event has God done ???