>>688265939
Damned shame if Thornton can't finally get his Cup after all these years. But fuck, man, watching Kessel light it up is glorious.

Also Con Smyth level Phil the Thrill.

I was really pulling for the sharks though, big fan of Pavelski.

>>688265939
The game was on at work and I barley saw it but holy shit that Pens 2nd goal. Who was covering him, he was in front of the net for like 15 sec and deflected it in. Shitty D.

>>688265939
We don't watch soccer on /b/ you dirty mexican.

>>688266848
Praise Phil.

>>688266749
Yea I'm sad for Jumbo Joe too. Can't deny that they're getting outplayed pretty bad right now though. Shame that this had to be the series where they decided it was time to not perform at the top of their game.

>>688266749
Thornton plays like an absolute dick.

>>688267557
>hockey
>playing like a dick
lol isn't that the point?

>>688267264
To be fair to them, the Pens play a different game. They're faster, dominating the shit out of possession, and the Sharks just haven't adapted to it yet.

>>688267831
No? He's unsportsmanlike as fuck.

>>688268059
>>688267557
Don't see it at all. At all.

I do have an issue with how the refs don't seem to call fuck-all in the playoffs, though.

>>688267831
No, it's really not.

>>688267831
Hockey is all about sportsmanship, dickweed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxFS2JAyleo

>>688268589
Man, he has tried to start shit constantly with the pens. Remeber that one clip of him randomly coming up to one of them just starts bashing him in the head with the hilt of his stick?

Penguins fan here.
Whether we win or lose the cup, what are some opinions on Matt Murray?
I hear that he'll be replacing Fleury.
He's good, but he plays behind one hell of a defense.

>>688269169
To be fair, everyone gets chippy in the playoffs. Thornton's just high-profile, so he gets a lot of attention. I think "Thornton is a poor sportsman" is likely a minority opinion.

>>688269233
Murray has impressed, though the last thing you want is to overreact to the small sample you've seen of him.

>>688269233
Murray is a fucking beast. His defense is amazing, as well as his speed.

>>688269468
Fair enough man, I honestly havent seen him play enough to honestly judge.

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>>688269233
We could use him in Edmonton. We'd give you Yak or a 4th round draft pick.

>>688269468
Kinda what I thought. A lot of people want him to replace Fleury. I think he should be played like the Blues play their goalies, and know you have two solid goalies most of the time.

>>688269656
No way he gets traded off. Unless it's free agency, but I don't even see that happening.

>>688269233
Looks solid but remember the hamburgler.

Depending on how the expansion draft goes though the Pens might not have a choice.

>>688269778
Yeah exactly. God, we haven't had good goaltending since Roloson. feelsbadman

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>>688265939
Great intro reddit, yuh fuckin faggot

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I have been a fan of the Sharks for a long long time. I was so excited to see them advance so far this year. Especially since I made some daring changes in my own life this year. I thought it just must be the year.
>>688267193
But yeah, the Sharks be playing like shit. I enjoyed watching Crosby be put into the Shark's bench. But...holy fuck, these boys gotta grow up. Drawing penalties like that.
The Sharks only realized that they had to put their whole hearts into the game in the third. The first and second, played like shit.

>>688265939


"Slowly"

>series over before it started.

>>688269656
You could use literally anything that's not another franchise/generational talent forward to squander. And you could give any number of broken franchise forwards in return!

>>688267899
They do just fine when Hertl isn't injured. He's probably the Sharks biggest threat against a team with speed.

>>688268792
Lol they recreated this in the movie Goon.

>>688269778
>>688269904
You can only protect one goalie in the expansion draft. The Pens HAVE to protect Fleury because of his no-movement clause.

>>688269233
Matt Murray fucking great goalie

Tradition is very important to the Pens.

Capital and San Jose's long storied traditions of 0 Cups. Sponsored by Your Pittsburgh Penguins!

Also 15,000 days since the flyers won a cup. Shitty team is shitty.

>>688269786
Yeah, Hammond was classic (lol Ottawa) overreaction to small sample size.

>>688270286
Fair enough, Hertl is pretty good like that.

>>688270336
Hahaha, that is such a stupid fucking rule. But it'll maybe, maybe finally get GMs to stop handing out NTCs and NMCs like fucking candy.

>>688270286
Oh shit. I didn't even notice that I haven't been seeing Hertl. Where is he, what happened?

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>>688270224
Yeah, but we will end up drafting Tkachuk. Another winger.

Too bad we can't have Hamonic.

And I'm glad Jultz is doing well for you guys, he had too much pressure (read:made too much money) from us.

>>688265939
Pens fan here.

It's been a hell of series so far - every game has been close and had me spooked every time you guys get pressure going in our zone.

If it wasn't for Matt Murray being insane, you guys would definitely have our balls in a vicegrip.

>>688270336
Yeah, we may be forced to protect Ference. I wish I was joking.

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I feel like the Sharks started off the game very solid. But then the Penguins broke them apart.
Start of the game looked very promising and even.. then slowly the Sharks broke down.
Up until the third period where they finally figured out that they had to play.

>>688270549
Lightning are in the same situation. The expansion team will likely get one of Murrey or Vasilevskiy.

Vegas will be way better than they have any right to be year one.

>>688270802
Anaheim?

>>688269468
>small sample

But Jesus CHRIST it's the playoffs and the Stanley Cup we're talking about here. The best of the best.

>>688270825
Nah the oilers won't. They clarified the rule you don't have to use a protection slot if the players contract runs out 16-17.

>>688270786
As a Sharks fan. I feel like that's being nice.
Matt Murray has been insane, a very quick goalie. But the Sharks just can't deal with the pressure from the Penguins, their forecheck is brutual.
And they know how to handle almost every Sharks powerplay.

>>688270660
Honestly I pity the Edmonton fanbase. All those amazing picks and the dipshit owners still can't get you a goalie, a blueline or functioning systems.

>>688270898
Shit yeah, the Lightning's goaltending situation is gonna suck.

>>688271037
The rules of probability still apply. Playing four rounds of the postseason is like a quarter of a season. The percentages can be very skewed in such a short time. These teams are very good, but sometimes the best team doesn't win since so much of hockey is random. Goalies, especially, can look awesome or like they suck depending when they get hot or go cold.

>>688269468
Thornton is just letting his emotions get the better of him. If anyone is a poor sportsman here, it's Couture tbh.

I nearly choked on my drink laughing at his comments about Crosby.

>>688271167
I'm pretty confident he'll waive or accept a buy-out too. He seems to have moved on from pro-hockey and is a pretty sweet guy.

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>>688271242
It's very difficult to call.

It feels like we get the pressure first, but then you guys show up late in the second and the third period and it's just a barrage of shots on Murray/in our zone.

>>688271340
>Honestly I pity the Edmonton fanbase. All those amazing picks and the dipshit owners still can't get you a goalie, a blueline or functioning systems.

It is frustrating, but somehow we have a pretty diehard fan base. We have sold out every game for something like over 7 years straight. It's weird.

>>688271451
I love people the try and compare povertyball with hockey. Anybody can play povertyball

>>688271451
Someone tell him about Jim Corsi and goaltender workload.

>>688271594
I'm a Leafs fan. It's goddamn Stockholm Syndrome is what it is.

>>688271391
Yeah... I don't get what this whole "Crosby is cheating" thing.. by timing the puck drop? I'm sure being a pro player there is some kind of mentality. Either way that is hard for the public to figure out and does not make you look good. I've always liked Couture alot though.

I gotta say the one time that Crosby pinned Thorton against the boards though, and Thorton slapped his helmet off. It was deserved. And I've seem some videos just showing Thorton push him and not showing how Crosby was holding him on the boards.
I dunno why it all happened or what was going through either player's heads. But Crosby just tried to act innocent after.

>>688271451
Lol fucking typical reddit mouthbreather.

>hurr durr im fat as shit but these professional athletes barely put out a sweat.
>eats another cheeto

>>688271901
I feel your pain. Gratz on the first round pick, I think the NHL would have collectively shat themselves if Edmonton got another lottery win

>>688271451
Sports are fuckin sports. Who cares what is more demanding we play whatever sport we love and watch whatever sport we love.

Btw we all know soccer players dive like pussies all the time.

>>688271941
On the subject of officiating...

That is almost impossible for me to comment on this series. There have been so many calls missed that it's making my head spin. On both teams.

It's like they want to "let them play", but then they'll call some stupid shit that BARELY looked like a penalty. Shit is so confusing and frustrating.

>>688271584
Yeah. I've felt that also. That the Sharks don't come in until later periods.
But they can't keep attempting these late game comebacks. It just doesn't work.
And the Penguins don't get tired. They're used to the playoffs, the Sharks are not.

>>688272391
No official wants to make the "game changing call" in a Stanley Cup final series. It's stupid, but it's the way she fuckin goes, bubbs.

>>688271941
Couture's comments are taken out of context. Every centerman in the NHL cheats on faceoff's it's a widely known fact. Andrew Shaw said Toews is the biggest cheater he's ever faced off against and they are on the same team. Couture was pissed because they were being inconsistent on what they let go in regard to faceoffs. ie Crosby was allowed to cheat his stance but the ref called couture out on it when he tried.

>>688272259
Oh, we would have shoved Bettman in his entirely all the way up Chiarelli's ass.

>>688272729
This is true enough, but by not calling a thing they're changing outcomes too. On which topic, fuck Kerry Fraser forever.

>>688267557
no he plays hockey.... im guessing you just started following the sport since 2005 lockout

>>688272747
That makes more sense. I had been watching the way they face off abit and noticed some weird differences. None that I can really point out. But just different styles and the way one guy seems to get so much closer than the other. Faceoffs happen so fast though it's hard to notice anything. I used to play though and I know there are alot of ways to take a faceoff though.
So are the refs playing favorites then? The hell is up with that?

>>688272658
>They're used to the playoffs

You'd never guess with how many rookies we have playing.

>>688273023
Remember McGough? Fuck that nigger. Fuck him fuck him fuck him fuck him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFzNKvddaXs

Let's go Pens! Make sure to drink plenty of Malk, now with vitamin score.

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>>688271451
>physically demanding
>spends 95% of the game standing around

>>688273343
Probably not. Crosby might know the ref doesn't check to his left after he gets into his stance or some other obscure thing. Centerman usually know the refs habits as well as the opposing players.

>>688273633
The Oilers ended up missing the playoffs by one point that year too if i'm not mistaken.

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>>688271451
Ben Bishop would cockslap that faggot

>>688273633
Wow. I hope they fucking fired his ass after that.

>>688273633
How did the refs buy that?... what

>>688274230
little details...little details..
Yeah.

>>688274310
They made him head ref of the league shortly after. I was at that game. Glad he got doused with beer at the end of the clip

>>688274570
Did they even watch the review? How do things like that happen..

>>688265939
You know. I have this little glitter of hope.
That since the Sharks choked and gave up 4 games to the LA Kings afew years back.
That the black cat karma will manifest itself.
The Sharks do have the possibility of winning 3 in a row.
I don't figure the Penguins to be the kind of team to give up 3 games though.

>>688265939

It's okay, the East is murderers row. Pens fan here, but if would have been the same if Tampa pushed through. The Sharks were not prepared for a team this fast. The Lighting couldnt even get to their net on a 6v4 powerplay when they pulled their goalie.

Bringing another cup home.

>>688274717
Can't review a goal like that :( The most infuriating game I have ever been at.

I hate being an Oilers fan, but I will never jump off the bandwagon. Our day will come once we get a blue line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFzNKvddaXs

>>688274717
I'm not sure. Admittedly I don't immediately know what makes a play "non-reviewable" but that's what fucked them over.

Faith restored in /b/ for seeing a hockey thread, cheers guys

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>>688275373
Meant to link this, I am drunk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DIFeOkD_dc

>>688275109
I doubt it. I'm a Rangers fan and I still don't see it - this team is very different from the ones that we eliminated.

>>688275570

No doubt, made my night a little better.

>>688275570
>>688275704

A civil one at that. Good shit, /b/.

>>688275210
Number 4 is it?
I would've loved the Sharks to have their first.
But if they cannot win it then they are not the best.

>>688275704
Same. And not one full of goddamned stupid opinions, either.

>>688275901
Yeah you guys are good shit.

>>688275210
I agree. Also a Pens fan, but after pushing through the Cap and the Lightning I firmly believe that the East is just a death sentence for the West in the finals.

>>688268059
being smug and kicking skates are practically the first things you learn about the game in practice.

he's just coke fueled now

>>688275842

Yep, this would be the 4th.

In all honesty I was hoping the Blues would pull through to the cup, maybe even pull an upset. They've never had a taste of the glory. I feel for a program like that.

>>688276079
Funny how that was the West just a few years ago, and now half those teams are in meltdown. In the East the only teams that are really shit are the Sens, stuck in permanent mediocrity, the Bruins, in complete meltdown mode, and the Blue Jackets and Rangers with serious fucking salary cap problems coming up.

>>688276514
I was very happy with the final four.

>>688269233
he's great

almost as good as korpisalo

>>688275604
Goddamn.. Those feels.
I find it funny that someone took the time to make this. And make it very well also.

>>688275570
Cheers anon, may the hockey be with you.

>>688275698
I felt really bad for Lundqvist when the LA Kings took you guys in the cup afew years back. I was actually cheering for the Rangers then.

>>688276806
If you can't have a sense of humour after missing the playoffs this many years in a row, there's no point following them lol.

*DYING INSIDE*

>>688276514
Blues fan here. It does suck seeing the same old story year after year, but I think the road through the Hawks and Stars wore them out. I hope the Sharks have a little more life in them.

>>688270837
This

The sharks were doing great in like the first 5 minutes of the game then they shat themselves and lost puck control and became disorganized

>>688276731
I was cheering for the blues as their team was mostly Canadian

>>688277131
Yeah, it really was a shame. Lundqvist really deserved it that year especially.

Kings definitely deserved it too, but I really thought we had something special that year.

>>688277298
I hate to admit it. But I was really really happy when the Sharks beat the Blues. I grew up in Kansas. First hockey game I ever saw as a kid that my parents took me to was the Blues. I forget who they even played. But all of my relatives, all of them. Lived in California. And they got me into the Sharks, my family moved out to Kansas and I was always pissed because there was nothing I loved here. No real ice, the year round rinks that were all shut down. Fucking sucked. I became a fan of the Sharks back in the Owen Nolan days. Stopped following for awhile because they were not doing well. Broke my hand in highschool hockey and then broke it again and had to sit abunch of time out then got into roller hockey in college and most the guys on the team were Blues fans and they were dicks.. so I kinda grew a disliking.

jackets fan here

>>688276731
>Blue Jackets and Rangers with serious fucking salary cap problems coming up

word. but thankfully BJ's have a couple guys they can buy out. probably boll and mac at least. there 3m right there without losing much

As much as Iove watching Jared Boll punch people, i think doobie and prout can pick up the slack. and even lights out mac has got nothing on korpi.

>>688276731

Same here, outstanding games. This has been one of my favorite playoff series overall.

>>688277878
Jonathan Quick was amazing.
Still though any time the Sharks play the Kings I like to say "Fuck Kopitar"

>>688270525
Now there's a fellow yinzer. The real Stanley cup was caps vs. pens if you all missed it.

>>688278247
By that reasoning I would hate every other team but mine.

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>>688276731
>I was very happy with the final four

Me as well. I'm a Bolts fan and I watched almost every game in the playoffs. All very deserving teams who have been playing great hockey. Each game has been super exciting. Bummed about my Bolts, but definitely saw the Pen's potential after game 2.

Honestly don't understand why everyone shits on the Penguins. Crosby's a great player - definitely not a "whiner" or anything like that (even if he USED to be). The team is good, and their fanbase isn't any more cancerous than any other team's. I was at a game and met a lot of cool people who were Pens fans.

>>688272747
It wasn't taken out of context moron he's a whiny bitch and is mad because he's got a 40% draw rate in the most important series of his life.

>>688279015
Faceoffs don't matter. A single faceoff may matter in the moment, but faceoff win rate means nothing in the aggregate.

>>688278247
>>688278607
Yeah it was difficult with Kansas not having a team. And with every other kid not even knowing what hockey was. With highschool ice hockey we used to have more rinks to travel to, to play in. But then once I got into roller hockey it was just Missouri over and over and over again. Theres noone else to play since rollerhockey is more rare. Our college made us a MAC court.. a multi area court with tiles that roller hockey could be played on, the team had to practice in a Skate City oval roller rink before. I got smart and moved my ass to Colorado though and play pickup hockey most weekends now. Now if only the Avalanche could start winning..

>>688279196
Are you stupid

>>688279196
Omg. What??

>>688279253
But half the time we had to kick off the indoor soccer players.. And we all made fun of them, because they'd be in the court during times when the weather was beautiful. When we would have killed to have an out door rink. Swear this rec center would rarely turn on the AC...
When it was snowing out and hot as hell out we understood more. But the indoor soccer players are different because they get to have walls.....

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>>688279196
>plays toward goals don't matter. A single play toward a goal may matter in the moment, but goal rate means nothing in the aggregate.

>>688279015
Faceoffs are hard as hell to read. Most the time I've just let myself move forward and tie up the guy so that one of my defensemen could come steal the puck. Easy play. Getting puck possession is what it's all about.
And you gotta communicate that stuff to your guys, there are little tells that the boys have between them that they'll know what the plan is.

>>688279196
I know right. Who cares if your opponent starts every play with the possession.

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>>688279196
lol.

>>688278942
Met a lot of cool bolts fans in Pittsburgh our after the game. Cheers

>>688279253
Colorado, eh? How's Eric Johnson doing there? The Blues had their first round pick between him and Toews. The Hockey Gods hate us.

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Honestly I was banking on this guy to make some solid powerplays. Get those slapshots through. But the damn penguins keep stepping infront of the shots.

>>688280093
Yeah, we're a pretty cool bunch - but like any other team the most outspoken ones are the assholes that think everything is decided by some kind of bullshit and that it couldn't possibly be that we got outplayed or anything like that.

To be honest, I think the only hockey team/fanbase that has REALLY been just...terrible all around has been the Flyers.

>>688280147
I don't want Toews.. I don't know much about him. But there was a teenager during free skate with his jersey while I was skating about. And he was the kind of person that wore his hockey gloves.. to free skate. and he'd drop them and start shadow boxing. All the Chicago hype I've seen lately hasn't made me proud to be a hockey fan.

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Awesome thread, /b/. Glad I'm not the only hockeyfaggot around here <3

>>688280462
Flyers? Boston dude. Embellishment city.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6IxtxfsNWg

>>688280462
Vancouver fans are pretty intolerable too.

>>688280633
I was watching a special on the cup a few years ago when the Hawks were in their second cup run, and most fans could'nt even pronounce his name.

>>688280875
>>688280891
Haven't had too many run-ins with either. Maybe I just haven't seen it directly on the surface as much as I do with Philly haha.

>>688280848
Love from Canada, /b/ro.

>>688280891
I'll second this, although they've been humbled as of late. I can't stand Burrows. at all.

>>688280462
As a pittsburgher I obviously agree. We are literally raised to hate them. It's like pseudo religion. That and Ohio obviously - what an awful place devoid of natural beauty.

>>688281141
Sedin sisters tend to fuck edmonton over, and the fans are pricks in the game threads.

Calgary has actually had some great sportsmanlike fans as of late, but fuck the flames still.

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>>688280875

/b/oston /b/ro here one name... Tyler Seguin

>>688268792
briliant

>>688279325
>>688279432
>>688279698
>>688279770
>>688279919
I told you. An individual faceoff may matter. Given the choice, obviously you'd rather win a draw and take possession. But a team's faceoff win rate does not correlate at all with its goal differential or its performance in terms of wins or progress through the postseason. Faceoffs are not a predictive stat. They really don't matter that much in the aggregate; it's a wash.

>>688281348
Blues fan. Hawks are our biggest rivel, but for a while it was the Wings. I hated them so much, thought they should play Mein Kempf whenever they came out for the practice skate. Aggrevates now that they took them out of our conference right as they were starting to tank. Hawks are now the enemy and things are back to normal.

>>688280462
I'm from Philly and I agree with you ;-;

>>688281578
I'll remember it then.

>>688281677
I don't know how many times I've seen the winning goal in the third period come from a faceoff lost in the defensive end. It's a huge part of the game and players are drafted and put out on the ice during important times of the game for only that reason. How many times did we see Crosby double shifted tonight in case the faceoff guy was thrown out?

>>688281776
Blues are all good in my book, although Backes is a little questionable.

I was at the game where you walloped us 6-0 and the first jersey got thrown on the ice. I was dating the organ player's daughter at the time lol

>>688281677
Please this is a good thread stop with the dumbassery

>>688282333
Trips have spoken

>>688282333
Body Checked

>>688282329
>I was dating the organ player's daughter

That is amazing. Did you get free games out of it?

>>688282329
Backes does get a lot of hate, but you would like him on your team. He used to throw some fits but he has calmed down quite a bit this year and mattered for once in the post season. I never understood the goon reputation though over other players that get suspended all the time.

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>>688282589
Not a goddamn thing. Best I got was a tour of the catwalk. Met MacTavish and our radio guys. Caught a glimpse of Lowe.

They were all pissed off though, I actually think it was the same night that we got rekt by the Blues lol

>>688282744
Oh, god yes I would take him in a heartbeat.

My dad, on the other hand, has no interest in him.

There are talks of getting Lucic to play, but I dont wanna pay 6 mil to a power forward. I would sooner take Backes.

>>688282963
Ha, I remember Craig MacTavish from being a Blues fan. He was one of the last guys on the team that would'nt wear a helmet.

>>688265939

Moral of the story...for this ENTIRE playoff run...

You better bet your ass that you have the best goalie you can get.

>>688283184
Yeah, if you think Backes is questionable you probably would'nt like Lucic.

>>688283363
Haha, you know your history!

He actually was the last player in the NHL to not wear a helmet.

>>688283530
Exactly, lol. I was actually a little weirded out when we signed Kassian.

>>688282191
I don't know how many times you've seen it earlier, but your eyes lie. Confirmation bias and all that. More important than winning faceoffs is keeping possession after you win one or regaining possession after you lose one, and that's more of a systems thing.

>>688282333
It is a good thread. I had hoped people would be amenable to this sort of discussion, but apparently people still like useless stats. I hope nobody here puts any stock in +/-.

>>688265939
Matt saved this team tbh. Pens fag here

>>688283684
Everyone in the NHL, including me, is thinking the Oilers HAVE to be a threat soon. What is worse, Defense or Goal?

>>688283778
If two teams both possess the puck well - face offs are a huge deal. In the playoffs the games are tight - you're simply wrong just accept and move on.

>>688283778
Eh, I won't argue about it anymore, but I strongly disagree a possession starts with the faceoff. You have a lot going against you losing the faceoff even 60% of the time. Oddly enough, I never cared about the -/+ rating unless a defenseless had one over 5 or so in a game.

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>>688284182
Honestly, it is a combination of defense and injuries. We had a fucking brutal season with injuries. I was at the game when McJesus broke his collar bone. Died a bit inside.

That being said, I think I might focus on the drinking a bit more. I will keep this thread in the background, but if it gets deleted, I hope you all have a good night /b/ros.

OP, make another thread tomorrow night around the same time if you fellas wanna shoot the shit again!

>>688284832
Yeah, it's late and I'm in the bloody midwest. I'll grab my coat, throw a 5 on the bar, and see you guys after game 5. Cheers.

>>688280366
Burns is easily the most likable guy on the ice no matter who else is on the ice with him. Dude is goofy as fuck and a reptile lover, as well as a fashionista.

>>688265939

it may just sound salty but i feel like the fix is in for the pengs

saw alot of penalties go unnoticed by the refs, of course the sharks get away with some ocasionally but I feel as though there is a bias against the sharks

seems like its been this way for a while, i dont know why the NHL hates the sharks club so much