>>688241451
Life sucks and is confusing
Let people have as many outlets as they want
At least they aren't hurting others

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>>688241451
Fucking what?
This is literaly mental illness 101.

>>688241951
>at least they aren't hurting others
Where does this retarded mindset come from?

>>688243693
From a place of understanding
Also why do you care so much?

>>688243930
Okay, so, according to you, it is okay to leave someone who is suffering from any sort of mental disorder alone, if they aren't hurting anyone? What about the homeless man in the street suffering from schizophrenia? What about, the clinically depressed woman about to kill themselves? Please explain to me what kind of mental gymnastics you do to let stuff like that go on, and still tell yourself you come from a place of "understanding".>>688243930

>>688243930
>Also why do you care so much?
Who said he cared so much?

>>688244339
Its your opinion that its a mental illness

>>688244350
Hes making threads to yell about it online

>>688244695
No, it's not my fucking opinion, you fucking idiot. It's called gender dysphoria. How about you learn a thing or two, before you start spouting nonsense

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>>688244695
>mental illness
Then call it mental gymnastics, but I damn sure know what it is.
I've had my fair share of troubles myself and I am working with people.
Enabling that shit in such a way is a pants on head retarded idea.

But what am I saying, shit's going down the drain anyways.

>Hes making threads to yell about it online
are you new here?
>mfw

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>>688244695
>it's your opinion that it's a mental illness
It's true that there's no objective way to define what is illness.
But it seems to me people who are 'genderfluid' might be happier if they managed to fit in as one or the other.

i hate this more than you do

t. tru-tranny

>>688245407
>Simple Definition of illness
: a condition of being unhealthy in your body or mind
: a specific condition that prevents your body or mind from working normally : a sickness or disease

>no objective way to define illness

Face palm yourself

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>>688245950
So you defined illness as a state of being 'unhealthy'.

>>688246236
Read the whole thing please. And if that displeased you, you can find the comprehensive definition online, if you aren't too lazy too look for it. Then, of even THAT doesn't please you, then you have no capability to objectively reason

>>688245105
>>688245189
>>688245407
Hehehe y'all are delusional
Sounds like an unhealthy obsession over other peoples lives

>>688247218
No, it's not an "unhealthy obsession". If your see someone vomiting blood, and you say or do something, do you have an unhealthy obsession over their life?
> inb4 2 edgy 4 u answer

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>>688241451
because it's a free country and you can be whatever you want, you nigger.

>>688247514
Is absolute freedom any kind of freedom at all?

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>>688247514
small government doesn't equivalent to degeneracy being tolerated
remove yourself

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>>688241451
hitler did one thing right

>>688247890
found the libertarian

>>688247493
You arent helping though. You are standing over the vomiting person, tsking over their life choices. You are judging without understanding and your opinions are stupid
let me put it in a way you will understand
Ur dum

>But it seems to me people who are 'genderfluid' might be happier if they managed to fit in as one or the other.

It's literally the exact opposite. They are happier when they are allowed to be and express their gender in the way they feel like at the the time without being judged by others.

>>688247890
what kind of retard are you? yes, as long as it doesn't physically harm or expressly threaten someone else or their property.

>>688248076
Maybe you're standing over them, tsking - I'm calling 911 on that shit.

>>688248136
>absolute freedom
>it doesn't physically harm or expressly threaten someone else or their property.

You're the retard here.

>>688248029
>thinks "muh big government" infringes on peoples basic freedoms
>wants to infringe on peoples basic freedoms

this is america, and i can suck dick if i want.

>>688241451
>WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?

Because freedom means freedom to believe stupid things.

>>688248099
Meant for >>688245407

Omfg. Okay. Im an 18 year old. Gun loving. Libertarian. Right wing. Rand paul endorsing. Trangender woman. I try so hard to give people the benefit of the doubt... but honestly. Its hard. The only reason i support trans rights is because ive experienced it first hand. But tumblr tard trans-trenders need to be stopped

>>688241451
WHY people confuse MOOD with GENDER?

>>688248517
how so? that's why i put those qualifying statements in there, dipshit.

>>688248076
understand what exactly?

>>688248076
So if someone were one the street vomiting blood and having an emergency anal evacuation, I would be wrong to get a doctor to help them because I'm taking over their life decisions?... the only idea more retarded than that is the one that collectivism actually works in a free society

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>>688244695
Oh my god, I'm loving this too much.

>>688241451
These people are attention whores. Nothing more.

Millennials are a fuckin disgrace. Entitled little pieces of shit

>>688248839
Tmw the only reports of "trans women" harrasing women in the restroom, have all been neocons, voyuerist pretending. Or political defiance in an attempt to repeal trans rights

>>688248819
>the only idea more retarded than that is the one that collectivism actually works in a free society

You just can't help yourself, can you?

>>688248619
we as well have the right to call them stupid for believing in such nonsence

>>688248742
> absolute freedom
> cannot do something

That is how you are the retard>>688248692

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>>688244695
Gtfo with your sjw bullshit. Mental illnesses are not opinions and shouldn't be treated as one. Anyone who thinks they can change genders anytime they want to have something wrong with their thought process. If you say otherwise, you are uneducated and a bitch

>>688243930
Place of understanding LOL OK faggot lets all just give in to this perverted insanity because its the nice PC thing to do. Society is going down the shitter, like the fucking Romans or something. Protip: its going to be the fire next time.

>>688248692
AGREED. I HATE TRANSTRENDERS WITH ALL MY HEART

>>688248819
>I would be wrong to get a doctor to help them because I'm taking over their life decisions?

yes, if they didn't want to see a doctor. just watch your shoes as you walk around them. it's none of your fucking business.

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>>688243930
>place of understanding
>bringing it to 4chan
>mfw

>>688249438
are you literally retarded? ok, no, not "absolute freedom", because you can't go around murdering people. but (with those qualifying statements i wrote), yes, your freedom to do what you want should be absolute.

>>688248645
Do us all a favor and eat a bullet.

>>688249594
So If that's the truth no one can be held liable for anything. Firemen can watch a house burn down. It's none of their business

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>>688248554
>muh big government
Yes the thing that can imprison you, spy on you, steal all your money, enslave you into its armies etc
A real enemy of freedom

>wants to infringe on freedoms
I'd say the failure to tolerate someone's phoney tumblr degeneracy is plenty of things, but I wouldn't say it's an infringement on freedom.
Rather it is me using my freedom to not have to put up with inane bullshit if I don't want to.
I don't know why you made this about you sucking dick except that homofags always want to shout about it

>>688249934
Again, are you stupid. I want my freedom to murder. I don't have it. It's not absolute freedom. Plain and simple.

>>688248819
If they aren't complaining. If they dont want help. If they arent hurting anyone. Then leave them be. (Although trans trenders do have negeative effects on trans rights considering they make everyone think trans people are as stupid ast they are)

>>688241451
Is genderfluid governed by gender-Navier-Stokes equations?

>>688249958
no, because those government-funded institutions EXIST to do those things. firemen are being paid to do that job. they can quit if they want. also, you don't have the freedom to set your house on fire, because it risks catching the surrounding area on fire. unless you live in the middle of nowhere, in which case, yeah, burn your shit to the ground and dance on the ashes.

freedom.

>>688249958
Shut up fagit

>>688250147
So you have to wait until a mentally insane person asks for help before you can worry about them?
Be clear

>>688243930
Eat shit retard
Things happen, I react to them. They're the ones who make a big deal out of it. They want to take away our basic right to think and form opinions, just because their feelings might get hurt. That's the worst possible damage they could be doing to the world, it's eroding our collective intellect

>>688249943
Shut up. Youre just an edgy neocon

>>688250008
>failure to tolerate
>I wouldn't say it's an infringement on freedom.

well, whether you would say it or not, that's an infringement on their freedom. mind your own fucking business, how people identify does not affect your life at all unless you involve yourself in it.

>>688250112
tough cookies. your freedom ends when you impugn the freedom of others, and vice vrsa. simple as that. they have the freedom to live, and you don't get to decide to stop them from doing that.

>>688250147
There is yet to be a trans person who doesn't complain, steal attention and energy from people, and subtly manipulate and social-engineer us

This shit is so fucking stupid to me. It's the same idea if you were to "choose" what race you are. Today I'm black, nvm I'll be Indian now, nahhhh I'll be white. You can't change what you were born as wtf. You can identify yourself whatever you want but it's bs to expect people to care.

>>688251024
>your opinions violate my freedom
This opinion violates my freedom

>>688251206
probably not

>>688251206
1. Im trans. Dont complain. Infact idgaf as long as you dont pass laws that infringe on my rightfully deserved freedom.
2. I already made clear the difference between transgender, and trans trenders
3. Social engineering is called society.

>>688249934
Dumbass, ABSOLUTE freedom means freedom to do EVERYTHING, including murdering, robing, raping, etc etc etc... if you are not free to do bad things, your freedom is not absolute (and it should never be, because absolute freedom is the extreme opposite to civilization)...

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Wow. Refreshing to see a good ol' fashioned shitfest.

ya guys might need this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIos0ya-yss

>>688251572
kys mentally deranged faggot

>>688245105

You sound like an idiot. Not just ignorant, but willfully ignorant. There's a lot of knowledge and perspective out there. Give it a try. Consider the chance that you could be wrong.

You sounds very butt mad. Try not to have a heart attack in between all your hair falling out

>>688252016
If society didnt like trans people... then this wouldn't be a topic because no one would come out of the closet. Now... currently western society supports trans people and supports their right to pursue happiness and achieve in life. Trans rights main opposition is lesilature, and specific hate groups. Otherwise. Most left and right wing people simply dont give a fuck.

>>688251513
i never said "opinions". intolerance can be beating and burnings too. you can have whatever dumb fucking opinion you want, as long as you're not hurting or explicitly threatening anyone.

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>>688241451
It's simple, we are generating waves of trends that include things and obsessions the majority would find very hard to relate to, therefore to accept. This includes wauifuism, bronnies, furries, sexual gender dis-orientations, etc.
Mostly related to sexual spectrum so the average human takes it personal to defend and manifest new ideals, as its fueled by basic desire instincts, like promoting thievery by using hunger for people to rob food.
I assure you this is for the best interest of mankind, we are creating a vast array of idealistic diseases that will need to be eliminated, and for that, the root cause will need to be attacked, and that is each and every one of these individuals.
The holocaust was taken in place for reasons such as establishing the state of Israel and vastly removing the sense of superiority of any particular racial strata, nowadays if you think you are superior you will be remembered of 'atrocities' committed by others and labeled as psycho, removing the full potential of any race to be organized enough to pose a threat.
The best method of social change is a conflict like war, followed by the social pressure of the majority.
We are setting an example to future generations.

>>688252135
>willfully ignorant

Patrick, is that you? If so, go get GRIDS you faggot.

>>688241451

Liberals

>>688252135
There's no chance to be wrong when the matter is whether a mental disease is in fact a mental disease or not. You are born either man or woman, you can not change that just with with wishful thinking. You have as much freedom to do anything as you want, just not expect the society to accept it or consider it something healthy.

I'm ok with trans people, but I think this is bs. Pick a gender and stick with it. If you don't want to be male or female, then be nothing.

Because it doesn't really matter and it isn't hard to just accept it. Seriously, it doesn't take much to say 'they' or just change the pronoun you use for someone, and after that it's pretty easy.

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>>688252496
Most people support their right to pursue happiness and achieve in life. The issue is with their behaviour.
You don't get it.

>>688252722
I didn't say beatings and burnings, I only said 'failure to tolerate (the degeneracy)'.
Beatings and burnings clearly violate freedom, which violations I said I was against.
As to 'hurting' anyone, it clearly depends what you mean. A society where simply claiming something is hurtful is enough to justify aggressions and stringent restrictions on liberty will not be a tolerable society for very long.

>>688253599
And what's next? We will have to treat a 65 yo man as a 6 yo little girl, just because he sees himself as such?

>>688253599
The pronoun should be 'it', since accordingly it is no longer a constant of either male human or female human.
It is mentally sick.

>>688251572
>2. I already made clear the difference between transgender, and trans trenders

You're the reason why trans* people don't get any respect.
If you want to be respected you should start respecting others.

the freedom to call a fuckwit a fuckwit is a wonderful thing, crying cause someone called you a fuckwit just makes you a lil bitch, either bite back or roll over and take it, cunt

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>>688253599
I hope you live to understand the can of fucking worms this is opening. Enjoy your new world of having to use a new pronoun for vegans and vapers.

Thanks, Obama.

>>688253599
It's more than just "accepting it" when you're expecting people to treat you differently than everybody else. If I identify myself as a God will you call me by "my lord and savior"? Because if you don't I'll get offended

>>688244695
go take your SJW bullshit back to tumblr. Trangenderism and anyform of it is a mental disorder. you thinking the way you do should be a mental disorder

>>688253363
>2016
>mixing up gender-fluid people with agender people.

>>688245105
gender fluid =/= gender dysphoria, although the two may be related. They are not one in the same.

Gender dysphoria is indicated by a strong revulsion of one's biological gender and a deep yearning to be the opposite.

Gender fluidity is some bullshit tumblr made up. Basically a label to slap on to someone who doesn't necessarily "feel" like their given gender all the time. Completely subjective/semantic garbage with nothing to back it up.

>>688254060
ever heard of Alzheimer?

https://youtu.be/OkNASf1bJrQ?t=12m25s
John money is the fucking madman who invented gender fluidity. He fucking raped children while doing it. FUCK OFF PEDOPHILE.

>>688241451
It's allowed because of pussified liberals who think we need to accept everyone, regardless of their choices and behavior in life.
You have a dick, you're a man. You have a vagina, you're a woman. Everything else is mental illness.

>>688254107
Some people actually prefer the pronoun "it". In their case, you're correct.
Everywhere else you're just an idiot.

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>>688241451

the saddest thing is that we can no longer know what is actual bait, and what is sincere retardedness

>>688244339
Our society DOES let stuff like that go on. If you really think that these folks suffer from a mental illness and you sincerely want to help them (and not just use them as a target for the projection of your impotent rage), then advocate for better mental health resources.

By the way, that almost certainly means paying more in taxes. But, let me guess, you're tired of all your tax dollars going to deadbeats.

>>688255410
this

>>688255436
>we need to accept everyone, regardless of their choices and behavior in life.

Well shouldn't we? Provided that their choices and behavior aren't directly negatively effecting you or themselves?

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>>688255834
Surely it is entitled to an opinion

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>>688256210

this is the supreme form of fuckery

>everyone should accept my choices
>everyone should act the way i want them to act towards me
but
>i don't have to accept others' choices
>i can act however i want towards other people

>>688256210
>directly negatively effecting you or themselves
Yeah this is really helpful.

>>688256039
Or he could do both.
Or he could give money to charity.
But way to shill for statism tbh

>>688256666
When did I ever say anything after the word "but" in your rebuttal? I didn't. I didn't even imply that.

>>688256666
Now that I think about it, when did I say anything at all in your rebuttal? The whole argument is a strawman fallacy.

>>688255436
Transgender people understand this, but they don't feel comfortable or happy this way so they choose to identify as what they please so they can live there life happily and there's nothing wrong with that and I didn't even have to call you a dumb ass or a faggot to get my point across

>>688244339
it's not my job to be the thought police dude, if people want to be sad or switch genders, it's up to them to seek help. As long as they aren't a danger to others, who cares

>>688256965
QUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADS

>>688256965

>we should act a certain way (accepting others)
>regardless of how they act

look. either everyone gets to act however they want, or we limit how people act

if it's the former, everyone can treat faggots however they want, and the faggots need to stop demanding they change

or it's the latter, and we need to stop these faggots from their stupid shit

you can't say
>they should be able to act how they want
>but we should act a certain way towards them
no. just no. fucking no. gtfo with that bullshit

>>688245407
sure there is an objective way, if it's in the DSM it's accepted to be a mental illness by the scientific community

the current scientific community doesn't recognize your pet issue to be a medical issue

>>688256684
I don't advocate for extreme "statism" (as you call it) any more than I advocate for extreme anarchy. Society needs to balance both impulses.

>>688257394
THIS FUCK OFF DUMB NIGGER AND KILL YOURSELF

>>688244339
Implying that someone choosing to identify as the gender there comfortable with is a mental illness lmao what a fuck head I think you just hate to see people happy

>>688257394
We should accept others acting however they want as long as it's not hurting themselves or others. It's really that simple. You're completely twisting the argument by implying "we" need to accept how others act regardless of anything, and that's not what I'm saying at all. Reading comprehension my friend.

Also
>directly negatively affecting your or themselves
How about other people including children?
Why should we accept things that are destructive at all?
Why not accept that which is prudent and beneficial, and reject the rest?
Seems fine to me.
You also need to define 'directly' (I'm not sure that's possible) and explain why we should accept things which are indirectly harmful.

>>688257686
Very enlightening

>>688249156
don't forget the few biological women who were kicked out of the girls room for being too manly looking

>>688257781
yeah the girl in op's pic sure sounds happy

>>688241951
>At least they aren't hurting others
A good 25% media activism is now targeting transgender rights. We're wasting good resources encouraging this shit.

>>688257868
>We should accept others acting however they want as long as it's not hurting themselves or others

then you should accept others acting however they want (pointing out these faggots are retarded and not accepting their bullshit) since it's not hurting themselves or others

you need to become a fucking adult and realize words don't actually hurt you. you being a pussy is why words hurt. don't limit others' free speech because you're a bitch

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>>688258314
And so are you by acknowledging it fuck head!!!!

>>688257781
>choosing

>>688248839
I feel like /d/ would approve of that goal

>>688257868
>We should accept others acting however they want as long as it's not hurting themselves or others.
If it offends you it gets the boot? What if your post offends me? Should you get censored? Because that's the sort of mentality you halfwit tumblrites try to force down peoples throats.

>>688258314
That's a qualm you should take up with the media - not transgender individuals.

Besides - if you want to "fight it" by vocally discouraging it, you're advocating for even more resources to be drawn into the debate and thereby giving it even more intention. If you were smart, you'd shut your mouth and let the whole thing die out one way or another. But you're not. You're a faggot on 4chan - no better than anyone else on this board - trannies included. Learn your place.

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>>688241451
Pic related girl suddenly felt like a dude, I guess.

>>688258765
This

>>688257868
They are hurting others.
They're hurting our sensibilities.

>>688258314
Some transgender people benefit from surgery, some do not.

Some gender fluid people adjust well when they are able to express their gender fluidly, some do not.

Some people regret becoming doctors, some people are grateful to have given everything up to become farmers.

One thing people on both sides of these arguments seem to miss is that we can't paint folks with such a broad brush.

>>688258132
XD

>>688258328
Who said I was hurt? You're clearly the one worked up over this. I'm just engaging in conversation. I'm all about free speech. You're the one stressed out and upset. Who's the one getting hurt here?

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>th-they're not hurting others!11
of course 'hurting' must be twisted absurdly so that no pet group of the left or depravity is ever hurtful, while any pride in one's nation or race is hurtful and evil and must be banned.

>>688243930
Gr8 B8 M8

>>688244339
they dont leave them alone. No more than someone with depression or fucking adhd. Theres treatments that help and so most people in that situation take them. Fag.

>>688258893
No.
But if you threaten to kill yourself because you can't wear a dress to work YOU are the one with the problem they need to get over.

>>688258507
See
>>688259001

The main reason I'm posting here advocating acceptance is for YOUR benefit, not transgender people. Acceptance benefits you more than them. Here's a quote that truly changed my life:

"And acceptance is the answer to all my problems today. When I am disturbed, it is because I find some person, place, thing, or situation—some fact of my life —unacceptable to me, and I can find no serenity until I accept that person, place, thing, or situation as being exactly the way it is supposed to be at this moment. I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what needs to be changed in me and in my attitudes."

Nothing is being solved here by arguing everyone's just trying to justify the fact they can't stand to see others be happy, the "liberal media" isn't taking your right to an opinion away just admit you hate others being happy and move on with your life

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>>688243930
Directly from that "Place of Understanding"

>>688241451
Becuase we do nothing to help the mentally ill in the U.S.
If we did we could put them in a hospital to help.

>>688259337
Dude lmao lets all accept isis into our lives!!!

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>>688259337
>Acceptance benefits you more than them

killing all of them, and stopping their shit, benefits us the most, though

>>688259637
What a troll!!!! XD

>>688258507
Those retarded shits take everything given to them for granted by forcing others around them to change their ideals to suit their mood.

>a group of colorful youngsters come into my place of work
>3 girls 1 guys
>the mood is rather lighthearted at this point
>say "what can I get you guys?"
>tumlrette finds it conveniently "offensive"
>tries to get me in trouble
>even the female managers have a chuckle about it

Can you imagine if this lunacy was mandated by law? it is in direct opposition of intelligent thinking.

>>688259327
No argument there. Any person who experiences suicidal ideations is clearly disturbed.

But, in that case, the problem has much less to do with the dress and much more to do with whatever underlying psychological issues are present.

>>688248839
I feel like comparing anything a president has done to putting a man on the moon would seem unimportant.

>>688259719
>murder someone for their beliefs but I still have rights
Such hypocrisy

>>688248031
hitler did nothing wrong who the fuck are you translover cunt

>>688259816
Probably never happened if did you were 1 in a million, gr8 b8 m8

>>688254791
dudebro

why the attack on vaping

>>688259637
Another complete misrepresentation of the argument. Perfect example of strawman fallacy. Comparing a clear, dangerous, direct threat of terrorism to accepting that some men feel like becoming women?

Come on anon, you're smarter than that.

>>688259337
>just stop caring, caring is a problem, there is nothing good or bad in life, we must overcome our natural revulsions and accept all degeneracy

You can see how with this sort of attitude people manage to ignore the ruination of their countries by Muslims.

Also to the extent we overcome our aversion to mental illness, and tolerate it, we are not encouraging people to get help and become better people.

Lower the bar and accept everyone, and soon enough there is no incentive to apply any restraint. What you will be left with are selfish unsightly barbarians

>>688259472
>anyone who disagrees with me hates all people and wants them to not be happy

>>688259337
You see... the leftists love pushing very shit fetishes in everyone's face. First it's the transgender people, then its the dogfuckers, and finally its the pedophiles who should have more rights and are able to rape little kids. All this "love and acceptance" garbage is nonsense.

>>688250822
>eroding our collective intellect
>edgy neocon>>688250877
4chan

>>688260095
What makes you even say that? Every city has a different mentality with its own mix of weirdos.

>>688247514
>free country
Is this nigga serious?

>>688260576
No I believe that it's just because people on /b/ don't have jobs or lives cmon lets be real

>>688251651
WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?

>>688260300
You're starting with the false assumption that you know exactly what constitutes mental illness (you don't - you have the definition wrong) and that the way you see the world is the way it ought to be for everyone. You lack empathy and humility.

I know people like you, and there is no arguing with them. They are set in their ways - egos and emotions completely blinding them from accepting any evidence that they may not know everything after all.

I'm sure you're a good person at heart, but there's no sense in continuing this conversation. I wish you the best in life, man. I mean that sincerely.

>>688260201
I guess he means accept ISIS culture into our lives.

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>>688260484
You may be right. But there is a fine line between an actual slippery slope and a slippery slope fallacy.

Don't forget, a hundred years ago, people were losing their shit over women showing their ankles . . . Their ankles, dude.

I don't disagree that a line needs to be drawn somewhere; total cultural relativity to the extent of nihilism is dangerous.

Where to drawn the line, on the other hand, is much more complicated.

>>688241951
Fuck you.
The next generation is going to have to grow up with genuine metal defects.
>I'm a dolphin today
>life's hard one minute I'm a happy dolphin then I change to a black lesbian cripple trapped in a Latina squirrels body, trapped in white able bodied male's body.
Why's there no group for me?

>>688241451
why do you fucking care bitch ass nigga

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>>688260813

>>688247514
So, I have the freedom to plug someone with my glock for mental illness over gender issues?

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>>688252921

>>688261039
Something tells me the thing about ankles is only made up

>>688248839
kek

>>688261087
>Why's there no group for me?

There is! Overpriviledged disgruntled cisgender male who thinks that a few fringe groups getting some rights and not getting lynched anymore means you're losing your way of life! There's a ton of you out there!

>>688261546
It's not. Read journals and even philosophical texts from the turn of the century. It was a big deal.

It's still a big deal in some communities . . . Radical Islam, the Amish, etc.

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>>688255353

>>688249934
Absolute freedom can't exist within a society, because you are dependent on other people to do their shit or you are fucked.
You can only have freedom in context to society in these days unless you are a old school cynic.
Living outside of society's bounds.

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>>688261039
I'm glad we somewhat agree on something... I personally am a massive faggot who am gay. I like traps and men. But don't think for a minute that I like them going through HRT or t-blockers. As both can fuck them up physically and psychologically. I care about people and don't want them to get hurt... exactly the reason I'm thinking about quitting fapping to traps as I know these things can be harmful. Guy master race tbh.

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>>688261870
jesus imagine if that was your kid, holy fuck id have to kill myself from the shame

>>688261643
>you're a fucking white male!

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>>688255961
BUTT BUTT BUTT

>>688262113
keked

>>688261643
What 'rights' are you referring to?
What 'lynchings' are you referring to?

>>688258893
Jesus christ, I have to pee. WHICH BATHROOM DO I USE?

>>688251572
>deserved freedom
Stop being a pretentious cocksucker and I might actually care less

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>>688262049
God speed, gay bro.

>>688262412
The right to change your body as you see fit. The right for gays to get married. The right to not suffer discrimination in employment or housing based on gender/sexual preferences.

the lynchings that used to be commonplace ways of dealing with gay and trans people in early American history.

Any more questions?

>>688261643
If they truly honestly believe that their gender can change throughout the day, week, month, then they ain't a new fringe group. That group of people have been around a while. They're called metally ill. They should be given the same rights all metally ill people get, the medical assistance to try and get their heads back on a level.
Personally I think that most of these "gender" folks are attention seeking muppets who refuse to fit in to any socially accepted group because that doesn't suit their wanton need to be different.
How long until we start installing bathrooms to accommodate the sfur's or the loons who wear nappies?
What the fuck ever happened to common sense?

Because they're just special snowflakes that are trying to 1up actual transfags. They'll grow out of it eventually

>>688262987
Bang on the money

It's a fad. Just like emo was. Sad thing is that these kids run social media, which runs mainstream media, which influences public opinion, which influences lawmakers

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>>688262049
>he thinks fapping to traps is somehow equivalent to forcing fags to take hrts
wud da fug, if they take them thats their own decision, and usually they are taking them to make themselves look more feminine and therefore more attractive so refusing to fap to them is a bit of a dick move
youre like one of those people that think men should stop watching porn because it forces young girls into prostitution

>>688262954
>How long until we start installing bathrooms to accommodate the sfur's or the loons who wear nappies?

Diaper lover here - why would we need bathrooms? You clearly didn't think that through, did ya champ ;)

>>688262987
You may be right. Of course, people said (and continue to say) the same thing about Trans people when that movement really picked up speed.

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>>688261112
>ass nigga

>>688262113
Thank god.

>>688263445
Why dyou like to walk round with it bulging? Does one last forever? chump

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>>688259514
Fuck that fucking cunt! Bring me my hammer and my nails!

>>688262627
COOL!

>>688261643

OK - you baited me in. Third party here.

And there are a ton of trans / gay right activists that don't understand people don't have to be tolerant of your opinion / identification. That's the beauty of it.

I agree with you - I'm not one to stop you from feeling that way, and I'm not against you associating yourself with whatever you want to. Just leave me out of it - and if you bring me into it, expect me to tell you to fuck off.

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>>688264080
Lasts long enough to change in privacy - just as it would for anyone who's legitimately incontinent and needs to wear them.

You're not very good at this, are you?

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>>688263397

>>688264179
Fair enough m8. Glad I caught you ;)

>>688264179

follow up to this.

I'm not against people bucking the current morays and forays of society. That's how change occurs.

What I am against is you thinking you're going to get me to buck it too, or blow up and think I'm "intolerant" for you being a special little princess. I'm not any more intolerant than those outside the norm are towards my position.

>>688263422
Lol... nice strawman my main man. I don't want to indirectly hurt anyone. If they want to do those things, fine with me... but I'm not going to contribute to any of it. Besides, men can be traps without those things. You don't need hrt or tblockers; it's a fucking myth. Also, I want to enjoy the full experience of fucking a guy. I want their own pheromones and all.... otherwise I misewell be fucking a sex doll (with very faint male pheromones) and be done with it.

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>>688264336
>legitimately incontinent

>>688264868
Bahaha - ok you win.

We still would't be asking for our own bathrooms though, you slippery-slope fallacious limey retard.

>>688265042
A traffic cone. I haven't laughed this hard in a week.

>>688261643
I like you

>>688262918
>change your body as you see fit
When did this change? I didn't know it was ever illegal to cut your dick off

>right to gay marriage
That's not a real right, only a government definition. You're not entitled to any government definitions one way or the other.
Also most religions would say fags still can't get married since marriage is between a man and a woman.

>right to not be privately discriminated against by anyone
That implies a right to someone else's money or housing which simply doesn't exist.I don't see that you have any right over someone else's property; they have the right to deal with it as they see fit. If they want to give their apartment to a gay person more than a straight person that doesn't violate anyone's rights.

And the lynchings you refer to were an awfully long time ago so I don't see that male tears are still being shed over any recent stoppage

>>688265042
>our own bathrooms
I pee in the plants at the mall.

>>688265448
You just can't see the forest through the trees, can you?

>>688265042
Look fella, what people want to be or do is fine. If you were in my company and you had a nappy under your jeans, they hey, who gives a fuck, I'd still be polite and friendly, as per my up bringing.
My issue as all people on my side is when people try to force their new point of view upon others. Iv gay friends, and Iv some very strange friends, I am not however comfortable with people demanding the world to not only tolerate their new phase but we should all change to accommodate it.

>>688265829
God bless you anon.

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>>688265942

>>688266047
I think they like it.

>>688265942
>fine with people existing
>won't lift a finger to act on being fine with it
Get fucked mate. Nobody's forcing views on you.

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>>688249525
this

>>688266535
We don't require people to act on being fine with things you stupid nigger

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>>688266535
Good. Here's my wife.

>>688265942
See? I totally get that. That's a perfectly reasonable response. I do, however, believe that your claims are unwarranted. No one aside from a very vocal minority is actually asking that you change your way of life to accommodate trans people. The only issue approaching this subject is the bathroom one, and it's really not asking you to change anything. So a guy with fake tits and no dick wants to use the ladies room - so what? The only reason the request for "special bathrooms" came up was because people were too freaked out about the prospect of sharing a bathroom with a trans person in the first place. It really should be a non issue. Fuck - many bathrooms in Europe are unisex anyway and they're doing fine with that.

I guess what I'm saying is don't let idiots out there force you to believe that these groups are demanding you change your way of life for them. They really, really aren't asking for much at all other than a little dignity and respect.

>>688266535
Implying it's down to me to act upon people's fucking retarded fantasies?
When there's forms being brought out asking what gender 4 year old children most identify with when applying for nursery care, I'm sorry but that's forcing views so fuck you back cunt hooks.

>>688266301
That's a trans boy diaper lover - a two in one for this thread!

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>>688260821
Fuck the children!
>mfw half of /b/ actually would

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>>688267383

>>688255961
truth

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>>688241451
these may be the most illogical statements i have ever read.

>>688267606
YES! I TOOK THAT PICTURE!!!

Haha that's awesome. Is that you, Codes?

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>>688256666
>mfw it's been 1 hour and no one checked these digits

>>688267248
Iv always thought for myself and I take people as I find them.
I just wish common sense could prevail more. You seem to have it, so they may still be hope.
>the patients aren't running the asylum just yet

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>>688267879

>>688267248
>a guy with fake tits and no dick wants to use the ladies room - so what?
>a guy wants to use the ladies room- so what
Some women aren't alright with that, some men aren't alright with that. It's because going to the bathroom is supposed to be private and limiting it to people of your gender reduces it a bit. But having men nearby makes it uncomfortable.
Non autistics understand this.
But you made me spell it out.

Also
>le so what
>what is actually wrong with abandoning all standards of decorum in society
>it's not like these rules exist for any kind of reason

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>>688268107

thank you, anon. i was beginning to think my quads would never be properly checked

in all my years, i think i've only had quads like one time before

>>688268433
It IS private. There are stalls. What you're talking about is cultural, and it's the same argument the other side uses.

Think about this: A trans woman is uncomfortable using the mens room because, in certain areas, they just may get their teeth kicked in for doing so. That's actually the real danger. All they want is to feel comfortable and safe. Who are you to say their comfort in that situation is unwarranted, while some men and women sharing a bathroom with a trans person IS warranted? When was the last time a trans person used a bathroom to attack a woman? Compare that to trans people who are legitimately attacked every day. Consider that for a minute.

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>>688269161
Awe, no man. No. That's not boner inducing for me. More diaperboys please!

>>688268376
I didn't take that one. Kinda cute - not really into Asians though.

>>688249156
Give the fags their own restroom.

Male | Female | Other Shit

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>>688248031
Hitler did everything right
>Jews
>Niggers
>Sand Niggers
>Gypsy Niggers
>Faggots, Retards, Disabled and Twins

>>688265448
I really don't understand why the gay marriage thing is even an issue. People could just get married by a judge. If the priest/church doesn't want to marry you then that's their decision. If you don't agree then you're obviously against the first amendment.

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>>688268433
>muh feelings!!
>sharing a bathroom makes me uncomfortable!!
>muh safe space!!!

You sound just like the sjw's with that argument

>>688270403
Adorable :)

>>688269060
>that's cultural
So I guess that's a good reason to ignore it? I guess everyone's feelings matter unless they don't.

>who are you to say their comfort is unwarranted
They're entitled to comfort, just not other people's comfort.

>muh trans people are attacked every day
Special oppression points don't mean you get to do what you want.

What I'm saying is I don't personally mind (I think) but the idea that fags get to override other people's property and preferences while calling the opposition bigots at every turn seems awfully authoritarian and it doesn't seem tolerant either.

People should be able to have whatever bathroom system they want.
(right now I don't think they do either, that's part of the problem)

>>688241451
because your gay.

Am I alone in thinking that communal bathrooms are fucking stupid at this point to begin with? Just make all bathrooms single occupancy unisex and the whole bathroom debate is over. It would also work out much better for fathers with daughters and mothers with sons before even adding trans people into the equation.

>>688270637
>fags get to override other people's property and preferences while calling the opposition bigots
Where the hell do you live?

>>688241451
Because we need something to gas since we can't do it to Jews anymore

>>688270637
>Special oppression points don't mean you get to do what you want.

That's a mischaracterization of my argument and skirting the real issue I brought up. The issue is about safety - and if you take a look at the numbers, it's safer for a trans woman to use the woman's bathroom. Issues of safety should trump issues of feelings. It has nothing to do at all with them "being oppressed so that means they should be able to do whatever they want."

Come on now - you're smarter than that.

>>688271013
Really. What the hell do people do at home?

>>688241451
whenever I see genderfluid or similar bullshit I think of Dr. Strangelove

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8L8NopVwdg

>>688271226
Unless liberals have the same position as me they don't want to leave it up to property owners to set their own policies.

>>688271375
I didn't mischaracterize you at all. Nothing I said was wrong.

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My government forces me to serve queers, homos, and faggots at my restaurant that I built and paid for.
How free is that?

>>688272445
Nothing I said was wrong. I can say that too without providing a counterargument. So it appears we're at an impasse. Good day, I suppose.

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I'm never going to learn your pronouns... EVER. Now, if a trap wants to be called a girl I'm fine with that. I'm never going to resort to calling someone a made up pronoun to make themselves look special. I'm always going to stick to the pronouns "he and she" and non of you tumblrites will ever convince me otherwise.
>also pic vaguely related
>a trap that doesn't take hrt, hormones, or tblockers.

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I have to go to bed. Goodnight all.

>>688273344
I'll never call a man a girl, Mr. Dubdubs.

>>688272826
In case you didn't realise, it's still not about violence either because the mentally deranged people would just not go to a place they thought was dangerous.
So it's still an argument that they should get special rights to be comfortable everywhere they go at other people's enduring expense

>>688274006
Well that's your decision I guess. I'm with you on the stupid pronouns they try to force down our throats. I am not your enemy, remember that. I don't want to go down the road of an Orwellian nightmare anymore than you do dude.

http://gender-fluidproblems.tumblr.com/

>>688241451
who fucking cares stop giving them attention you idiot

>>688274256
Over ten minutes and that's the best roundabout bullshit argument you could come up with? Resorting to calling trans people mentally deranged and arguing that they "shouldn't go to a dangerous place?" So they should just pee outside in an alley then? Then stretching that out to imply that they should get "special rights to be comfortable everywhere" when we already established that this was about safety rather than comfort?

I take it back - you aren't smarter than that, lol.