springfield XDS 45.

Anything will work, just aim it at your face first.

>>688199223
YES I LOVE THAT GUN I HAVE IT

>>688199074
Move your home to a country that isnt awash is weaponry.

Lorcin L25

For home defense you wanna make sure you get something with stopping power and hollow points you don't want any collateral damage I value my TV more than a life of a thief/burglar

>>688199074
I'd like to buy one as well but I live in eurabia

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>>688199074

glock 19

9mm:
FN FNS-9
Glock 19 Gen4
Heckler & Koch VP9
Ruger SR9
SIG Sauer P320
Smith & Wesson M&P Series
Walther PPQ M2

>>68819922
not op, but been debating between this in 45 or 9. Does the bigger round really make up for less capacity and less kick on such a small gun?

mavric 88 shotgun can be had for under 200 and then spend some cash training.

Firearms are not talismans they are machines that take practice to gain the skills in their use. just like a car you must practice proper use before you have a chance of successful use in extreme situations

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Buy something chambered in 7.62X39. If you aren't killing your intruder and your neighbor's dog two houses over, what's he point in staying alive?

>>688199074
Mossberg 500
Good price and a shotgun is easier to aim than a handgun due to the length.
Don't just buy it though, go out to the range and practice until you're good.

And get a katana

>>688199074
Smith and Wesson 500mag

>>688200210
no look at every force that employs firearms militaries cops etc they understand the value of controlability and capacity

I keep an H&K VP9 at home it's a great gun and I have a glock 43 with 2 round mag extenders for ccw

You want a shitty for the home. Especially if you're inexperienced. >Not hard to aim >Spread shot so hard to miss >Bullets typically won't go through walls so don't worry about fuckin your house up royally or killing a neighbor. Mossberg 500 great place to start.

>>688200210
go with the 9 bro, it better to re-aim after the first shot, not so much recoil

>>688200391
katana is gay but a mossberg is gr8 got mine last year and have to say easy to maintain just get some 12 gauge bird shot and keep it near your bed

>>688200210
9mm or 380 will kill especially with modern ammunition technology. I'd go 9mm though because most people can handle it and it's pleasant to take to the range. If it's your first handgun go 9mm if you want it for more than just plinking.

>>688200679
Agreed

for those claiming the mossberg 500 is great. I agree!

Te Mavric 88 is made by mossberg and is 95% a 500 at 1/2 the price

Note: I have a $1000 budget for the gun itself and I plan to take shooting lessons. I have no close neighbors.

>>688200728
Bird shot won't do shit

>>688200779
I don't even own at 9 at the moment I have a glock 27 .40cal for edc but im really wanting to get a p938 sig in 9mm

>>688200880
This
>>688200922
You have allot of options then you want handgun or something bigger?

>>688201157

I'm looking for a handgun. I am a small person and not sure I can handle something larger.

>>688199074
You're going to want a shotgun. Peter Hofer makes some good ones.

>>688200922
get a maveric lots of ammo and a class in tactical shotgun much better than a expensive thing you cant afford to learn to use very well.

Shotgun with 00 buck load. Better to replace drywall than your life.

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>>688199074
You don't want to have to rely on precision aiming during a home invasion. And you're less likely to drop it or have it knocked out of your hand.

>>688201263
If it's a handgun then Glock 19 is a good beginner. Double stacked so you have enough rounds

Glock 19 and a class would be a good choice nothing fancy but works

Any .45 ACP and you're good to go.

>>688199074
>to protect my homo. Any recommendations?

Yes, be straight.

>>688200594
>>688200679
>>688200757
tanks /b/ros

>>688199074
a shotgun is superior to all handguns for home defense. get yourself a nice pump action or semiauto 12 gauge and load it with buckshot. this is objectively the best home defense weapon you can own. otherwise, if legal, get a submachine gun in 45acp

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If you get a shotgun, go for remington 870. Better imo than a mossberg. Shottys gonna be your best bet for home defense, and theyre cheaper than a pistol most of the time. If you get a handgun, get one at a gun show. You will pay about 25-40% less for the same gun. I just got a Sig Sauer STX .45. Its great so far. Not much kick for a .45 and classy af. Pick related.

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best gun for your money anon
>completely silent
>highly accurate
>cheap ammunition
>cuts bread
>kills scary brown people

Pistol grip shotgun is the way to go.

As far as a hand-gun, I prefer revolvers for home defense. They don't jam. 357 packs a punch and you can save on target practice by shooting 38 spl. Just remember, you can shoot 38 from any 357 but DO NOT load 357 rounds into a 38.

im so jealous of you americans that you could just buy a gun to protect yourself from niggers just like that

>>688199074
What state do you live in

>>688202496
Me too
I wish i was born in america

>>688200922
For a little over your budget I picked up the Remington 870 12 gauge and a Ruger Gp100 (357 magnum, also takes 38 special). Simple and effective weapons for my out in the middle of nowhere lifestyle

>>688202496
Not quite that simple but yes. Our govt trusts us to defend ourselves from all threats foreign and domestic

>>688202232
What about my .22 sportsman

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950 JDJ should hold dem niggas off your property.

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MG 42

1200 rpm of nigger suppression

>>688202175

shotguns, not really.. pump shotguns are slower rate of fire, and worse in close quarters, easier for someone to grab onto.. and lower capacity. a modern 9mm handgun will have 15 rounds per magazine and you can quickly reload, and quickly fire multiple shots.. i would rather have a glock 19 than a shotgun against multiple home invaders.

however, if OP doesn't have close neighbors, and doesn't really intend to carry the firearm on his body day to day, as an every day carry.. then an ar-15 would be an ideal home defense weapon. the ar-15 has a good 30 round capacity ( actually i only fill the mags to 28 rounds ) .. it's got better stopping power than a pistol, more accuracy and range, and it's much easier for someone less experienced to handle a rifle than a pistol. a good red dot sight will make it point and shoot and simple to use under stress.. handgun iron sights are a bit more difficult to use under stress than a red dot.

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AK nigga

>>688202899
>militia

>>688200391
>>688200627
>>688201265
>>688201497
>>688202175
>>688202178
These guys get it.

>>688201263

an ar-15 has very low recoil and is easier to handle and put back on target after shots than any pistol, such as a 9mm.. if you are smaller and want an easily controllable home defense weapon an ar-15 would be ideal. if you intend to carry it on your person as an EDC.. get a glock 19 imo.. or another high quality pistol such as a sig sauer p229 etc..

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this

>>688201497
You still need to aim a shotgun even up close

Get a moist nugget.Not even gigganigga will be getting up from that.

>>688203887
This guy has never shot a shotgun at across the room distances.

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This is my home defense AK

>>688204258
It's a shotgun, not a fucking blunderbuss.

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>>688203538

AK

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Boomstick

>>688203476
Shotguns, REALLY.

12g. Bullpup shotgun, semi-auto, 3" mag. #4 buckshot, 41x0.24" ... there is nothing better for home defense.

>>688203476
dont listen to this guy OP, he thinks AR15s penetrate walls more than a 9mm handgun.

and yes, i invite you to come grab my shotgun. see if you can do it without making a 70 caliber hole of daylight in your torso. ill be waiting in my room, 8 feet from the doorway.

just get yourself a good shotgun and post up pointing it down a hallway or at a door like normal people while you call 911. you arent in a jean claude van dam movie

>>688204464

nice, an ak or an ar would be great home defense options, the ar-15 might have slightly more manageable recoil for a beginner, but they are both great platforms... aks are bombproof and i tend to actually prefer them myself, but ars are also fantastic.

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beretta m9?

>>688204464
you might want to take that to a carbine course. i have a feeling shooting that muzzlebreak in a tight hallway will change your mind real quick about using it for home defense

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gonna need body armour

>>688204688
>>688204859

these dumbasses probably think a single shotgun blast will clear an entire hallway / room.. and kill a whole like of burglars 8 feet across.. lol. i have shot plenty of #00 buck, from 25 yards it prints a pattern about 6 inches apart on a steel target.. tl;dr .. you still have to AIM a shotgun. i actually prefer slugs, personally.

however a pump shotgun is without question, far inferior, to a good semi-automatic rifle or pistol.. especially a rifle. too slow. semi-auto shotguns are unreliable, mostly, and the reliable ones will cost you more than a good ar-15 .. which would be a poor choice imo.

regarding penetration, that depends on the round, if you're using hollowpoint rounds, frangible rounds, or rounds intended to expand on soft targets, ar-15 rounds won't over penetrate THAT much.. compared to a 9mm say.. but if you're using steel core 5.56 rounds, you will get more penetration of barriers.. which can be a good or bad thing depending on the circumstances. an ar-15 is a superior home defense weapon imo, to other options, including a shotgun.

>>688203650
The citizenry is the militia. Also the bill of rights says the right of the people, not the right of the militia.

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>>688199074 >>688204688
Shotgun is the home defense weapon. Double aught buck, that racking sound. I personally think a semiautomatic shotgun is the way to go because if you're injured you can shoot with your off hand, and no manual pumping.

Saiga 12, Vepr 12, DDI 12GA, etc. All based on the reliable AK platform with many magazine options.

The shotgun advocates here know precisely fuck all about how a shotgun really works. At close range, pellet spread is inconsequential. At 10 yards/30 feet you might get 10 inches of pellet spread with proper man killing ammunition. How big is your bedroom? Mine is much smaller than 10 yards across.

It is very possible to miss with a shotgun at close range. That means that you are sending 9 or more bullets down range with every trigger pull.

Mossbergs are every bit as good as Remingtons and a fuck ton cheaper.

Shotguns a a pain in the ass to use indoors. Get a 30" long stick and walk around your house pointing it like a gun. Tell me how convenient it is.

Pistol grip shotguns are a stone bitch to use well with proper man killing ammunition.

Shotguns are not user friendly. Recoil takes lots of getting used to. They take lots of practice to load, fire and unload well.

Shotguns are nice and long and easy for badguys to grab. If you don't know how to defend against a disarm attempt, you stand a good chance of losing your shotgun to the guy you wanted to end.

Buy a pistol and practice. Doesn't make much difference which pistol.

It's not the arrow that matters so much as the Indian.

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>>688206112
I bought a cheap (really cheap, like $200) Beretta 92S police trade-in. 9x19mm Hornady Critical Defense and a 15 round capacity. There's your home defense.

>>688206112
20 gauge exists and is very effective manstopper as well

>>688204945

This is an AK74 chambered in 545x39

>>688199074
You ask, a professional soldier answers: You need five things to conduct basic defense of your home.

1. Shotgun. Mossburg 500 is good. Any Winchester will do. Don't waste your hard cash on Benelli's, etc. All, you need is something to clear rooms and sweep hallways.

2. Pistol: Sig P-225/226. Best pistol I've ever used. There's a reason SOF guys use them.

3. Rifle: Any AK or SKS knock-off will do, if you are just looking to put a bunch of rounds out quickly in a general direction. If you've got the money, buy an M4/AR-15 and put a good scope on it. ACOG is best for me, but you have to practice with the scope, or don't bother.

4. Good flashlight. So you can see, blind dudes wearing NOD's, and bash zombies over the head.

5. Knife. Any good one will do.I like using AK bayonets, because if I lose it or break it, I can just pick up another.

All this works. Your individual experience may vary...good luck.

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this is what police are for. you arent seriously advocating killing someone just because they are trying to steal some replaceable material goods, are you OP?

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this will do>>688199074

>>688207345
You've played too much Call of Duty.

>>688207373
Police are to clean up the mess after you're entire family has been raped to death. Avg police response time is 7-14 minutes. Response time of 9mm bullets is 1140fps. Also you think all human life is precious. I'll give you a hint. It's not

>>688208244
Your*

>>688208244
Yeah, because burglars typically want to rape and kill your family...
Oh I feel sorry for you fear ridden bastards. You watch too many movies or news story freak stories.

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>>688208411

All my friends have handguns for home defense. I have a mossberg 12 gauge. Better stopping power and you don't have to be as accurate. Easy to load, easy to clean, easy to shoot. Perfect for home defense.

>>688207518
Ok friend. Take it for what it's worth. I'm 53 and have never played Call of Duty, but I have spent the last 30 years carrying a weapon for a living.

I do however, play World of Tanks...

>>688208647
I'm sorry but I'm not taking the chance when it comes to my family. They are in my house uninvited looking to commit a crime. I don't know what is going through their mind but that doesn't matter when my family's safety is in question. And that person does not deserve to keep breathing. His life has ceased to be precious.

I've got a baseball bat since guns are illegal here

>>688206617
>Hornady Critical Defense
lol inferior plastic tip shitty gimmick ammo. get something good like HST, gold dots, winchester bonded, etc if you really value your life.

>>688209250
Do criminals have guns where you're from? It's crazy to think about the difference between europe and the states.
Even if we made guns illegal, there would still be tons of criminals with guns.

>>688199074
Winchester 870 or Mossberg 500

>>688204258
Ever seen someone hunt birds, dumbass?

>>688199742
So, nowhere. Got it.

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>>688199074
use this

>>688209997
fucking keltech is at it again

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dont be a cuck OP, if your garage doesnt look like this, you are doing it wrong

>>688199074
USP .45

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OP are you implying these gentlemen would do anything to physically harm you? do you know how racist you sound right now? i bet you voted for that faggot hatemonger trump too!

I have Beretta 92 with a supressor loaded with 9mm JHP.

It's a fucking beast and almost looking forward to using it against some looser intruder one day :)

Manageable recoil and nice balance. Plenty of bullets and it can be fired indoors without going deaf. But like other anons say: Don't just buy; practise as well.

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>>688210952
youre willing to lose an NFA item to evidence after a home defense situation occurs?

Tbh, CZ 75 SP-01 in 9mm or the Mossberg 500. The CZ has low recoil and a mounting rail, is heavy enough to beat a nigger if he gets too close, and has night sights already on it. Then there's a shotgun, nothing more to say about that

>ctrl + f "p226"
>0 results
Sure is scrubby up in here.

>>688206112
This.

Get a pistol, preferably a suppressed, along with some ammo with stopping power.

>>688200103
Why. Why do you need to carry more than $200 every day. Are you just hoping it will increase the chance you can use the CCW?

Do not buy glock. Do not get caught up in their slogan "glock perfection" because they are far from it. If you are looking for a hand gun smith and wesson m and p, or a fn, or sig.

XD is better than glock.

>>688203136
A 950 jdj will keep them off the face of the earth.
Get yourself an mp9

>>688211217
NFA? No such thing were I live.

Is it the suppressor you're thinking of? Have you ever fired a handgun in a hallway in a house? It's loud as fuck, though the suppressor doesn't make it go "puf" like in the movies, but it takes the edge off :-)

>>688211958

"why do you need ____" 0/10 go fuck yourself poorfag, no one has to justify why they need anything to you or anyone else. i will carry whatever cash and / or weapons i want, faggot.

>>688211917
Have you ever bought a NFA item? I already know tha answer is no.
$200 dollar tax stamp+6 or more months if you efile+ a shitty suppressor like an opsprey is $600
So you are into it a minimum $800 and at least 6 months by the time you practice enough to get good it will need to be serviced.

So $1000 for starters and no pistol or trainingt yet. give that $1000 to ADT for a good alarm or quality windows and be a fuck of a lot safer. and train with what ever you have often.

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>>688199074
Yeah, dont buy a gun. Buy an ar15.
Those shaky hands under stress may cost you your life.
Most people shoot better with both hands on a rifle.

>>688212147
dude they are all just fine and glock has the 30 year record it is just all brand hype.

I use a glock 19 because I have been shooting and carrying it since 1992 and it works just fine.

>>688212611
No such thing as NFA here, buddy ;-) This may come as a surprise to you, but there are other countries than america out here in the world...

>>688199074
Best home defense gun is a shotgun loaded with either rock salt or brid shot. Rem 870 express. Handguns are for protection out of the house

>>688212843
>not Us
>not mexico
>not canada
>not britbongland
>not merkeltown
>not voulez vous coucher avec moi dick
>not nippon

What is left?
Can canadians really own guns?

>>688212843
well if you can buy a Supressor and have the cash to burn have a ball the 3 instances I used a firearm in real world back in .mil 2 were indoor and I never heard shit till it was long over adrenaline and shit.

and I figure OP is probably based in the US which is what I base my recommendations on for him. what I do is vastly different because I have trained for it.

>>688212967
Dear god do not listen to this you will DIE or at a minimum be arrested.

>>688212967
The only time I have ever heard of using bird shot for home defense is when you have a double barrel, and load buck shot in the other.

Just tell OP to use a fucking plastic lightsaber and a nerf gun. It might take the intruder's eye out, and that could really hurt.

>>688213323
Try South Africa ;) They are so nice and liberal down here. They must have realised that we need to be able to protect ourselves from the niggers here.

>>688213404
Where do you live? If you're caught with a suppressor is california you dun goofed.

>>688214177
Kek

>>688214581
Not him but I have a gun on my person right now that isn't allowed in Kommiefornistan. Lol so glad I live in GA.

>>688214581
I live in Wa but not the poster telling OP to get a pistol with a can for home defense. But I am very versed on NFA items.

>>688199074
don't buy a gun

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>>688199074

Tomahawk shotgun pipe!

Kill intruder, scalp that faggot, smoke a bowl! Ultimate weapon.

>>688199223
not OP but I've actually been look at the XDS for my first concealed carry

>>688199074
currently using a Springfield XD 9mm. Using Hornady Critical Duty. Some of the best anti-human ammo on market.

>>688212967
You forgot to add that you don't have to aim since it's a shotgun. And racking the slide will scare off a grizzly bear on meth. And all the other retarded gunshop myths that people who have no clue what they're talking about regurgitate to one another without any factual basis.

>>688215556
god damnit, 1 off from quads.

>>688215198
Queer

>>688199074
Musket.

How has no one mentioned a 1911? It's the only sidearm you'll ever need.

>>688216566
You dumb fuck watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKk45i9DzDA

>>688208647
>Because most burglars don't want to harm you, that means literally none ever will try.
There are plenty of cases where people break in and try to attack the homeowner or their family.
Better safe than sorry faggot

Just dig a hole around your house, like rhe cartoons

>>688199074
Short barrel 12 gauge

Remington 870
Maverick 88
Mossberg 500

Load it with birdshot

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>>688199074
go and rent a bunch of guns. buy whatever feels right. the best gun is the one you're most comfortable with. hth :)

>>688199074
a cast iron skillet

chainsaw, earplugs and cocaine is the way to go

>>688216953
>birdshot
No. Not enough stopping power. Birdshot is for birds; you want shot designed to stop medium-sized, thin-skinned creatures. Like, for example, a buck.

>>688202178
Nice! I have a 4" Procarry 1911 from Kimber, also in .45. I love it. Have you shot a Kimber? If so how do you feel it compares to sig? My dad has a full size 9mm from sig and i like it, but 9mm is nothing, expecially on a 5" frame so im curious on how they would compare in .45.

>>688217404
All these people suggesting birdshot. It's almost like they want the attacker to have a chance to live

>>688217404
birdshot doesn't spread for several yards, a clump of birdshit up close is devastating. You don't shoot bird within a few yards with birdshot, you hit them at least 25 yards out. Birdshot has more stopping power than a 9mm, there is nothing wrong with using birdshot for home protection, it has much less recoil for women, the elderly, injured people, and pussies.

>>688200103
>x2 Glock 19 147 grain hollow points

>>688217333
I like the cut of your jib.

AWP | dragon lore renamed to ' innocent pistol'

>>688216884
Wow, look at that you fucking retard, he aims before he shoots. Will wonders never fucking cease?

>>688217884
>a clump of birdshit up close is devastating

fukkin kek!

>>688205106
Yes

>>688218981
beretta m9 is obsolete. Glock won

>>688218135
OP wants to shoot niggers, he isn't one..

>>688219394
>niggers
>being able to afford a glock
you mean hi-point or s&w sd9ve

>>688219394
He didn't suggest a HiPoint

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>>688201263
manlet detected

>>688219582
>niggers
>affording

>>688219705
You're right, they usually steal their guns from unlocked cars

>>688219799
And in their mind they're all glawk foe-Tay prollem solvents

>>688219947
fellow /k/ browser spotted

>>688220121
Dnt doxx me bro

>>688199074
Mossberg 500 you can pick up the short barrel Marvrick 88 model for like $180 at any sports store. If you just need home defense no need to buy an expensive handgun. My Glock 17 is great but costed $550.

>>688220438
Bout what my 43 cost. I have a 22 for OC

>>688220438
20" 8 shot model maverick is best gun

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/FlyerTom/Firearms/Ghetto_Gun_Sights.jpg

>>688199223
Fuck Yeah.

>>688201497
>Rather blow hundreds of tiny holes into the walls of my home/ family members in other rooms rather than take the time to learn how to properly shoot a gun.

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>>688199339

Get a Glock 23.

>>688212536
lol " go fuck yourself poorfag"

Literally died a little bit XD

>>688200103
Glocks are too blocky for my taste, I prefer an m1911 9mm

>>688223180
Is that double stack?

>>688220365
Gen 5?

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>>688199074
If you wanna make big holes in people, get an S&W 500 snubby

>>688199074
Britbong here so I can't even use a blunt plastic knife to defend myself but whenever I think of weapons for home defence, the first thing that comes to mind is a shotgun of some kind.

>>688199074
Whatever you are most confident with and most likely to train on. That probably means some kind of striker fired 9mm these days.

>>688223180
You mean browning hi-power? you mean an actual 1911 chambered in 1911? because i never meet anyone who actually bought a 1911 like that, because well...browning hi-power

>>688223300
Nope, but if you need 16 rounds for home defense you should probably be more focused on moving than what to use when faced with 100 ninjas.

>>688223849
Shotguns are great and all. But nothing beats a high cap pistol + training as much as possible. Plus you don't wanna hand your 100lb wife a 12 ga unless she uses it regularly. A 9mm is probably the best caliber for beginners.

>>688200594
Oh yeah, economics never factor in. A 45 is just as easy to handle as a 9 in trained hands. Reality is a 45 costs more to shoot. The pros to 9 are cost and capacity. Anyone, outside the military, that needs more than 5 rounds probably shouldn't own a gun.

Dear OP,
Buy a pump shotgun, the sound of you racking it will end most encounters.

>>688223536
holy shit...burn the fuckers face off at 50 yds

>>688224142
Browning hi-powers are 9mm

>>688224247
I want as many as I can get before a reload. This isn't a god damn Steven segal movie. There's a good chance I'll be shooting after being jarred awake in the middle of the night or caught off guard. And if I do have to kill someone it would be nice to know that I'm not bone dry while I figure shit out. To say capacity is not important so you can justify carrying a novelty antiquated handgun is to be ignorant.

>>688224570
A pump shotgun is a terrible idea for home defense. Its large, bulky, difficult to reload under stress, easy for an attacker to neutralize, and ricochet is a real concern with shot. If I lived out in the country and needed to protect land in the dark, a shotgun would be great. If I lived in a suburb with a lot of drywall? Not so much...

>>688199074
yes. Go to a country where you can spend that money on some education instead of 'protecting' yourself from degenerates like you and then commit suicide to not interfere with the local population

For home defense go .45 or a shotgun

>>688224247
And since you're clearly the guy saying that the rack of a shotgun is a sufficient HD tactic I will no longer be listening to your advice. Good day sir.

>>688225067
I'm just saying that you're unlikely to get 16 rounds off whether its a Steven Segal movie or the Three Stooges. At that point you're either reenacting the Kehoe Brothers incident, in melee, or shooting at a dead body in the dark.

>>688199074
I use a match lock myself, I've never had a single person rob me successfully since I bought it she's working all right

>>688225355
Nope, not me, I'm the guy saying a pump shotgun is a terrible idea. My HD is a shitty old revolver that I know I can keep in a good grip because at 3AM in a place as small as mine I'm pretty realistic about this being a pistol jab situation. More importantly, I know the cops are going to take it and I'll never see it again.

Glock 17. Its reliable and it has a common cal

>>688224570
I recently purchased a CZUSA P-09 duty 19+1 in 9mm but I'd still prefer my .45 for home defense

>>688224410
Like I said, I'm too busy sipping tea to know about rooty tooty point and shooty's, I was just saying that as far as I know, the stereotype is a shotgun.

>>688225467
There's also just as much of a chance that there's another guy. And the Steven segal reference is that one shot = one kill. It doesn't. People(especially drug users who just got shot) can and have gone into a rage and lived through 16+1 9mm. I prefer not to take the chance.

>>688199074
Only advice is that you don't need one

>>688225721
Sorry for the mistake. Zim zam got his back

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for my first buy i would like a compact beretta.
r8 or h8?

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>>688226176
I love my wife's

>>688226415
Granted it's a .22. But it's super fun

>>688225818
Give it a bit and those rapeugees will make you wish you had guns

>>688226176
H8, if a wild nigger is running up to you, and you miss, you're fucked

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>>688199074
Fill it with ammonia or something

>>688226504
Maybe if they brexit they'll get their guns back

>>688226415
should i still be worried about that defect that would cause something in the chamber/slide to crack? i have read that was a problem in models up until 2010 or something

>>688226506
You're not implying that's a single shot are you?

>>688225979
If theres two guys theres a good chance you're fucked anyway unless they're dumb enough to be standing next to one another. I'll stick with my ancient .357 coughing up buffalo bore hollow points.

>>688226083
Zim Zam didn't live in Chiraq. The Uber driver here who stopped a mass shooter is having to sue to get his gun back.

>>688225797
Just bought one of these online the other day. Pick it up at the FFL Wednesday. My is the .40 flavor though. You like?

>>688226504
I'm lucky because I live in the North East where there aren't many, and those that are here either actually do shit or are generally nice/quiet.

>>688226605
Underrated post.

>>688226720
I haven't had any problems. And most of your major mfgs don't have those kinda problems unless you shoot bun as hot reloads or some other bullshit ammo. But like I said. Mines a .22. Prolly not gonna blow up

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x2 AA-12's. The ultimate fuck you.

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>>688199074
>12 gauge autoloader
>.45 longslide with laser sighting
>uzi 9mm

any one of these is ideal for home defence

>>688226821
Sounds like I'm not the one that needs to move. Lol good luck with that

>>688199074
Get a shotgun OP, Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 with an 18.5" barrel. If you get a pistol go Glock 17, 19 or 21.

Most importantly go spend a good amount of money on defensive shotgun/handgun training from a reputable group. Owning a gun is pointless if you don't get the appropriate training to learn how to use it.

>>688227127
>lasers.

>>688227040
okay thanks for the info

>>688227292
This

>>688227338
That was supposed to say "bubbas hot reloads"

>>688227155
My family has been here five generations, I'm not moving. I accept the issues. That said, carrying in Chicago is pretty fucking entertaining.

Get a S&W Semi-auto laser pistol. I bought it for my home defense and it does well. Just be careful there is no one behind the wall or anything.

>>688227535
Well it has to be more interesting than rural GA. Here you just carry. So does everyone else. Legally. Polite society.

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BUY A FUCKING P90

LASER THAT SHIT UP SO PEOPLE KNOW U MEAN BUSINESS

PUT A DAMN HOLOGRAPHIC SCOPE ON IT

PPL GON DIE TONIGHT

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>>688199074
Just put this sign in the front of your home and you'll be 100% secure!

S&W anything
VP9
Glock 19
M9
1911 if feeling risky
Also I have a Remmington 870 with a tighter choke and larger pellet ammo. It's nice to have around and o guarantee it will stop an intruder.

>>688228162
In GA I laugh at signs like this as they carry no weight of law. They always give me a giggle.

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>>688199074

Handguns are fine for "home defense" and I wouldn't talk you out of owning one, but any engagement inside your home is likely going to be within 10 or 15 feet of your threat...

Bring something to the table that gives you a real advantage OP. Find a short stock 12 guage that can fire 3 1/2 inch magnum loads... These fuckers will eat your handgun alive in a close range, indoor gunfight.

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I prefer diesel in my super soaker

>>688217965

mynigga.. 147 grain masterrace

>>688228009
don't forget quickdraw

>>688199074
Beretta 92FS.

>>688199074
I recommend you buy a gun

>>688199074
>>>/k/

>>688228162
Oh, there's the sign I walk past daily while carrying here in AZ.

>>688223180

glocks are certainly not the most aesthetically pleasing pistols, but they are very reliable in my experience, so a pretty good value. i also like that they are simple with no safety or other mechanism to fumble with under stress... i actually like how sigs shoot better... i prefer double stack mags tho, higher capacity is pretty important to me.. i prefer to carry something that holds 15 rounds or more in a mag.. if i had to go smaller i'd get a glock 26, the sub compact 9mm.. but i have no probs concealing the glock 19, and i'm 5'11 and 180 lbs, pretty slim

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Get a CZ or any type of 9mm. You could try getting a Maverick 88 for like $200. You don't want something that can penetrate too many walls because you could potentially harm someone else in your home or a neighbor.

>>688229446
Why no decocker master race?

>>688199223
Nice affordable gun.

>>688200103
Expensive but reliable and worth it.

>>688200165
Call of Duty Kiddie Detected.

Seriously the only one of those that would be remotely appropriate for an average home defense weapon is the Ruger SR9.

>INB4 you try to defend a VP9 as a home defense purpose.

>>688229392
Not him but I'm your size. How are you carrying as I have a 22 that gives me problems tryna CC

>>688229709
Hey he had a Glock 19 on the long list

>>688229620
This model came with the flashlight instead of the decocker.

>>688229990
Yeah I missed that one.

500 for a newish glock like that is not a bad deal.

>>688229850

see my post here:

>>688200103

the main way i carry is the galco IWB ( inside waist band ) holster... during colder months when i wear bulkier clothing i can get away with a galco shoulder holster, and 2 extra mags. a good IWB holster will let you conceal with just a t shirt easily imo

>>688199074
get a dog- it's like a gun you can fuck

>>688230320
I'll never buy a new one again. Getting used or trade in is just as good. My 22 is 22 years old. Not one malfunction and it's all original.

>>688230553
Hmm. I haven't got to try any quality IWB holsters. Plus when I carry the 22 I usually OC. Serpafag

>>688199074
1911 need a 45 Desert Eagle just to watch them pee their pants

>>688230192
All P-09's come with the decocker installed and a manual safety in the box that anyone with little mechanical abilities can install in place of the decocker in 5 minutes time. I've never seen one otherwise and I sell a lot of P-09's and P-07's at our shop.

>>688231380

IWB is the way to go for CC imo, especially for tshirt weather .. i find 5'oclock on the waist works best, tucks the grip into the small of your back at an angle, if your IWB holster is a good one and designed properly.. a good belt helps too