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/b/ I have a friend who tried very hard to convince me I should respect or care about Muhammad Ali.

I tried to tell him I can't respect a person who was famous for being in a sport where the intention is entirely to harm another human so severely they cant even function anymore and the game is over. Not to mention his arrogance on the same level as Kanye.

With that in mind, is there a real reason I should give the slightest of fucks?
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You shouldn't, you're entitled to your own opintion, tell your friend to fuck off.
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>>687967245
I'm glad that shakey race-baiting allah-loving nigger is dead
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>>687967245
He was a staunch advocate against interracial coupling.

Gotta respect him for that.
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>>687967245
He was islamic scum, so I don't miss him.
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>>687967394
>>687967401
>>687967603

So far I like these opinions
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>>687967245
I hope they use a George Foreman grill to cremate him
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>>687967245
Because he was the best in the world at his craft. Something you'll never be. But I don't care either way do what you want bruh
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>>687967710
Kek
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>>687967245
fuck all muslims
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>>687967401
Hes very strongly Christian.
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>>687967919
No he wasn't you fag
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>>687967919
What the fuck are you talking about?
He was a member of the Nation of Islam.
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>>687967739

>>687967739
>Because he was the best in the world at his craft
>at his craft

why even post this after reading the OP post?
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>>687967245
Also he dodged the draft.
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>>687967245
Did you know him personally? Did he ever do anything for you or any group you're associated with?

Fucking CNN's covered with that shit. I can't even read the goddamn news anymore cuz it's full of politically correct, nigger-pandering bullshit. Front page is full of liberal-as-fuck op/ed pieces posing as news. Figured I'd go read big-black-cock news but they're just as full of shit. 4 fucking articles on the front page about dead-boxing-nigger. You'd think fucking Jesus died or something.
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>>687967245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E235XpAVJpk
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hes a nigger lover
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>>687968149
... and?
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>>687967919
lel
very strong christian named muhamad
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>>687968251
That makes him a coward. How can you respect a coward?
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>>687967739
Lots of niggers punch people in the face, but he was the best
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>>687967245
He was the best at that sport in the world but he also rose above it. He stood up for what he believed in and fought the government over his beliefs. He became an icon for the fight against Parkinson's. He also had a lot of great quotes and he had a great life.

That said, believe what you want. It really doesn't matter.
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>>687968114
It doesn't matter what his craft was, he was the GOAT at it, he became something OP can't and won't
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>>687968374
exactly
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>>687968385
>He stood up for what he believed in

OP here. This was the argument my friend kept stressing, but couldn't go into any detail whatsoever. Perhaps you can?
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>>687968346
Dont forget all his illegitimate children. One went to my highschool
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you can't say the guy wasn't a mad cunt. he was a fucking god in the ring
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>>687967245
You dont have to care but if people want to box, they consent to it. You act like they snatch people from the streets and force them to fight to the death. The boxers, even Ali, knew the risks. Every athlete knows the risks of the sports they play. Plus there is a line between arrogance and confidence and to achieve what you want, you need so much confidence that people mistake it for the latter. You don't have to care about Ali or boxing but accept the fact these are choice people make and leave them to their devices if they are not harming you.
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>>687968441

That's fine, but being the best at something doesn't equal respect. A person can be the best serial killer but I sure wouldn't respect that.
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>>687968520
Him being a muslim, it doesn't surprise me.
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>>687968632
what a stupid fucking comparison
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>>687967245
we dont talk about you right and no one ever will be, he is left a mark in history, something you could never do, success is important to us doesn't concern religion.
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>>687968742

Both are intended to harm somebody.
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>>687967245
He did what niggers do best - punch people in the face.
Truly inspirational.
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>>687967919
He changed his name because he was a muslim you idiot.
>>687968052
Only until 1975, when be became a regular muslim.
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>>687968815
this is what maxed out autism looks like
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>>687968385
Who hasnt fought the government for what they believed in. That statement is so bland you could be talking about anyone from hitler to a feminist
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>>687968946

what a great response
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>>687968866
After the knockout, only those unwieldy gloves prevented him from stealing his opponents wallet
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No.
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>>687968346
I think Ali was a racists scumbag, but I can't agree with this.

He was pretty much promised a cushy, PR assignment miles away from any hint of danger. He was basically going to be getting the Elvis treatment.

Instead he sacrificed his championship, his livelihood and his freedom to refuse, because he didn't want his image to be used to convince other black men to go along with the war.

Ali was a piece of shit for a lot of reasons, but the draft thing wasn't one of them.
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Naturalist things did he actually say? I know he did just wandering. Piers Morgan did a column on his life and mentioned how he has said much more racist etc things than Trump. And people are but hurt over it because they can't face the truth
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>>687970798
*racist
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>>687968632
You would respect if YOU were the one strapped to a chair with your soft yet soon to be hard, cut off, dick.
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>>687967245
fucking draft dodging piece of shit, he should have been banned as well as stripped of the title
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>>687971958
He was banned wasn't he?
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>>687971958
If ur talking vietnam than hes not a pierce of shit. Your president that authorized the decision to depopulate the country is the piece of war starter shit.
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Cassius Clay was an arrogant, caucasian-hating narcissist, on top of that a fucking muslim

Good riddance
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>>687972309
he's was a fucking draft dodging coward who should have been deported
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>>687971958
he wasn't a draft dodger you dumb fuck, he stayed in the US and faced the charges against him like a fucking man
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>>687972448


but it's every white males fault that black people have it bad, didn't you know that?
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>>687972764

>pussied out of military service like a fucking man
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>>687972920
>pussied out of serving as human fodder in a rich man's "ideological" struggle
I feel sorry for anyone who feels "proud" of their service in that shithole jungle
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>nigger beats up other niggers and thus becomes famous (huh)
>nothing happenes for 30 years and nobody gave the slightest shit
>he dies
>OMG HE WAS THE BESTESTEST PERSON IN THE WORLD, I'M GONNA MISS HIM SO MUCH

seriously, fuck those shitheads.
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>>687973252
>fedora tipping overload
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>>687968509
they'll feed you bullshit about how he stood up against being drafted in Vietnam. but for all anyone knows, he was a coward and thought it was beneath him, so he thought of anyway ti get out of going.
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>>687973371
>le meme captain
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>>687972764
still a dodger there rodger
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you know what i mean harry
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>>687968979
>Who hasnt fought the government for what they believed in
you
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>>687967245
While I have no interest in boxing, he was the best at what he decided to use his life for.
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>>687967245
I too have no respect for him. But only because the only thing this dude ever did was win some fights (and lose some too).

He's hailed as a "hero" for being a fucking coward and not wanting to fight in Vietnam, while tens of thousands of his "black brothers" went over there (like good citizens) and did their part.

After that, he ran around calling people "whitey" when the only reason he had a life or career was because of White People, including the Supreme Court (comprised of nothing but Old White Men and one semi-white Negro) who let him off the hook for pulling the "Mah religion sez mah ass don' go to no vietnam" bullshit.

At the end of this dudes life, what the fuck did he accomplish other than being famous?

That is the problem with society today. We elevate people to this god-like status and lavish them with honors and praise and accolades well after they've ever done anything useful or interesting.

Meanwhile, some schmo in some city gets his ass up every morning and goes to work where he voluntarily runs into a burning building to save a baby. Maybe the local Rotary Club holds a Pancake Breakfast in his honor, but no one else knows who this guy is.

Welcome to the fucked up world, Kids...
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>>687974366
>He's hailed as a "hero" for being a fucking coward and not wanting to fight in Vietnam, while tens of thousands of his "black brothers" went over there (like good citizens) and did their part.

"Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go ten thousand miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights?" Ali, February, 17, 1966.
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>>687974169
q4yye5u4wy54w
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>>687974781

Fuck Him. That was just an excuse. He didn't want to go. Lots of people didn't want to go. He's a HERO because he didn't want to fight for his country? What does that make the tens of thousands of blacks that DID?
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>>687967245
>a sport where the intention is entirely to harm another human

You sound like an effeminate homosexual.
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>>687971958
he was banned and stripped of his title. He objected on moral and religious grounds, he was a conscientious objector. But the army said no. He was stripped of his titles and banned. This was in 1966, he wasn't allowed to fight again until 1972 when the SCOTUS ruled that his conscientious objector claim was valid.
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>>687967710
Underated kek
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>>687973277
The Parkinson's saved us from 30 years of listening to him talk shit about whitey
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>>687974844
you fucked up son. read the image
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>>687975083
>he didn't want to fight for his country?
think about that statement really hard. think about what vietnam was (ostensibly) for, and what it actually accomplished. why are some people so fanatically willing to go (literally) throw their lives away on some career politician's scheme to get rich, in the name of "fightin fer muh cuntry! FREEDUM YEAHH WOO USA LET'S GO KILL SUM FUCKIN BROWN PEOPLE!"
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>>687968197
>it's full of politically correct, nigger-pandering bullshit. Front page is full of liberal-as-fuck op/ed pieces posing as news
Nigger what are you talking about? Moderate and conservative newa outlets are doing the same. It's called celebrity worship, it has nothing to do with millenial SJWs.
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>>687969864
This
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Another darkie died. This one was a mudslime as well. I suppose the other nig nogs will be hootin and hollarin for a while over it. But nah op you don't have to care. I don't .
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>>687975557

No question about Vietnam being an utter waste (and I was ALIVE during that time, but too young to fight - 10 years old in '69).

That isn't the point. If we let each individual decide if he or she wants to comply with the law - and the Draft WAS the law at the time - then we may as well not have a society.

My point about Ali is that he got elevated to this cult status figure and hailed as a Hero when the truth is he was a whiny bitch who didn't think the rules applied to HIM.

Sure, he could fight - awesome - lots of guys could fight too, and a couple kicked his ass in the ring - but to hail him like he was Mother Teresa is just bullshit.

He Nig-Nogged his way through life - 9 fucking kids with how many different women?? Didn't want to follow the law? Wanted to talk shit about "whitey" while acting like a total nigger?

Yup. He's a Hero all right.
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>>687972920
Haha do Americans still equate sending 18 year olds to Vietnam as bravery?
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>>687967245
nigger who adopted a sand nigger nom-de-plume

how can anyone love this?
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>>687973371
How are you conservative milleniala pro Vietnam? That is fucking retarded kek. What patriotic bullshit did your history teachers tell you?
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>>687976364
>DON'T QUESTION THE SYSTEM YOU LITTLE SHITSTAIN!
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>>687976364
When you are told to go fight and/or die, for whatever reason, you gotta be scared shitless (or crazy). So yeah, to actually get on the bus and go to the base and then get on the airplane and go to the battlefield takes "bravery" which is not much more than the suppression of our natural fears.

So yeah. it IS brave for an 18 year old to go fight. What point were you trying to make? That sucking cock is your own way of showing bravery?
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>>687967245

Yes, fucks should be given. If every nigger were as openly racist Cassius Clay then the world would be a better place.

Segregation
No Interracial Marriages or Offspring
No Black Lives Matter
No Ghettos

I could go on all day!

If everyone could just be honest, we'd live in a much happier place, with a no fucking niggers!
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>>687976664
>it takes bravery to go along with a system that is nothing more than a human slaughter machine
the brave ones are the ones that stand up and fight against this shit. and who get beaten down by the very people whose lives they are trying to improve. we are just like crabs in a bucket my friend.
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>>687967245
Not his fault you grew up to be a bitch
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>>687976664
Its brave for an 18 year old to go and fight on his own accord. He shouldnt have to fucking do it just because hes forced into it. You know how many innocent lives were lost because they were forced into going and fighting in Nam? I don't cause I'm not a shithead 'mericunt but Its a fucking retarded system
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>>687968979
>Who hasnt fought the government for what they believed in.
You, every anarchist on /b/, every faggot on /pol/, most Europoor, etc.

Hell the militia that took over that federal American bird sanctuary were complete pussies too dumb to figure out how much supplies they need. The one that tried to fight police and locals was shot and his pussy "comrades" cried about it with their dildo collection
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>>687976827
Wanna bet how many White Women Ali fucked?

He was all over that interracial thing when it came to white pussy... kek.

You come to the realization when you're old that everyone in the world is just as full of shit as you yourself are. That's why you see pictures of old dudes sitting by the fire drinking scotch by themselves smiling. It's the realization that the world is one fucked up place, and that their only true friend is a good dog and a very tall drink.
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>>687967245
>I tried to tell him I can't respect a person who was famous for being in a sport where the intention is entirely to harm another human so severely they cant even function anymore and the game is over.
wrong
the intention is to score more points
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>>687967245
That nigger was the niggerest. Good riddance to a voice that never should of been heard, thanks sjw warriors from the 1960s. Nigger lovers.
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>>687976664
>reading comprehension 3/10
You butthurt fag?
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>>687977054
"hurr durr, I shouldn't have to fight if I don't want toooooo. You can't make meeeee! Where's my trophy for showing up!?!"

Fucking kiddos. Your lunch is going to be eaten by either the Chinese or Russians.

Sometimes you gotta fight, and not just because you FEEL like it.
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>>687976664
>What point were you trying to make?
Read the fucking conversation retard. But what's the point in asking after your butthurt rant?
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>>687968520
did the KICK ASS?
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>black (nigger)
>muslim
>anti-white
>braindead
>played a violent sport
>before my time

The man hardly deserves to be a celebrity.

I'm a white guy, and I make sure that my idols are white guys. I don't look up to blacks and I cannot relate to them in any way. Any white male who idolizes niggers (Lebron, Kobe, any NBA nigger, Cam Newton, etc), doesn't deserve to be called a white male. Youre a disgrace to your race if you look up to theae subhumans.
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>>687977329
>Sometimes you gotta fight, and not just because you FEEL like it.
yup. WWII was one of those times. nam wasn't.
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>>687977277
Naw, bro. Butt is feeling pretty ok today. Thanks for asking.
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>>687971958
>he should have been banned as well as stripped of the title
he was tho...
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>>687977495
Thanks, LBJ. Thought you were dead.
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>>687977329
I guess I might have worded it wrong but the point still stands. A cunt isn't brave because hes doing something because hes forced to. Hes brave for going out there on his own accord and fighting for what he believes in.
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>>687977423
I'm 6'2, a chemical engineer, and Aryan. I love Neil deGrasse Tyson. You butthurt faggot? Your pale inbred NEET ass wouldn't say shit irl because you're a little pussy
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>>687967245
just a draft Dodger to me.
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>>687977611
Same point stands however. What would YOU do if you were the president of your country, and determined (by whatever flawed reasoning) that fighting was the thing to do. All the other elected officials of your country agreed, as did a majority of your electorate.

So, you give the order, and a bunch of 18 year olds say "um, no. we won't fight."?????

I'm not defending Vietnam one iota, I'm arguing that in a society you have to have some modicum of compliance, ESPECIALLY by those too young to have good reasoning generally (and most 18 year olds think only with their cocks).

Whatcha' gonna do, Mr. President? Let these kids give you the finger, or round 'em up, put them on a bus, and send them to the Front Lines?
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>>687977898
>just a draft Dodger to me.

this guy knows, an unpatriotic fucking coward who didn't object taking money from the citizens he refused to defend
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>>687977501
nigger four people made fun of your autistic angry rant. you are butthurt as fuck fucking kek
>my butts okay
Literally what queers say to each other
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>>687977818
>I love Neil deGrasse Tyson
celebrity scientists on the rent a quote circuit have no cred
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>>687978069
Welp the country's fucked if they elect me so I say fuck it let it go to hell in a handbasket and Shoot myself in the face
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>>687974844
Nice dubs tho
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>>687978161
Oh wow. I didn't know FOUR people made fun of me. I'm so ashamed now. My feelings are all topsy-turvy. I'm not sure if I should burst out crying or just throw myself off the nearest cliff.

Sob.

Maybe I'll just fuck your mom one more time, that usually cheers me right the fuck up son.
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>>687975488
Kek true!
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>>687978112
So if you were drafted right now to fight right now would you be happy to uproot your cushy life that you are accustomed to?
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