They're cool

>>687848103
cool as shit but totally unnecessary, impractical and dangerous in everyday life unless you live in a 3nd world country

>>687849262

Guns aren't just for self-defense, you idiot. They can be used for recreation, for competitions, and for hunting.

>>687849378
that doesn't make them any more necessary, practical or safe, you idiot

>>687849891
I think guns should be a mandatory possession by law for all non-criminal healthy adults especially in Europe and America

>>687849891

>guns r dangerous

Yeah, if you're a stupid nigger, sure. If you aren't, then you won't shoot yourself in the dick.

They give me boners.

Guns are our friends

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>>687849262

Your anti-gun cuck tears make my dick hard

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>>687849891
OK SUPER CUCK because more people dont die from blunt objects dose that make hammers unnecessary or what or what about cars or liquor drinking dose absoloutly nothing good alcohol related deaths are 1000 time higher than murder or accidental death so we should ban it right cause its not safe right thats how it works we just want to live in padded room with only safety and food trays with soft corners

I support public acess to firearms

>>687848103
Dangerous and toxic.

Interesting though

>>687849891

Is alcohol necessary? Wanna ban beer, faggot?

Given that gun owners are far more likely to kill themselves or their family members than they are to kill anybody else, I'd say guns are wonderful.

Not as badass as some of their proponents make out, but still fun and altogether necessary for a free and safe populace.

>>687850995
>toxic

Quit trying to drink guns you fucking moron

Guns are great for normal gun owners. Great at defending your house against niggers and putting food on your table as well. And of course just cool in general because who doesnt love a hand cannon?

Can be a decent tool or means of recreation.

Most are unnecessary.

And a lot of people just seem to want the freedom to hold onto whatever death machine they can find without really caring about whether it's necessary or worth the money.

If tanks were cheap, you can bet your ass every American would own one before worrying about putting any food on the table.

>>687851357

Ya gotta admit it would be fun as fuck to take out dozens of coyotes or hogs with an Abrams MBT

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>>687851357
>>687849262
>>687849891

>>687848103
I own a dozen or so. Lot's of fun. Some for hunting, some for plinking and target, some for home defense. I've owned at least one gun for over 20 years... never shot anyone. Then again... I'm not a fucking psychopath.

>>687851707
Shut up Holmes.

>>687851925

No, no, that can't be right. If you own a gun you with 100% KILL YOURSELF OR SHOOT A FAMILY MEMBER I SAW IT ON HUFFINGTON POST

>>687850842
I'm not anti-gun, I said i thought they're cool, just that they are totally unnecessary, impractical and dangerous in everyday life unless you live in a 3nd world country, which is true
>>687850592
guns are made to kill things, that doesn't really sound like safety to me...
>>687850882
the sole purpose of those things is not to maim, injure or kill, therefore your retarded, tired out argument is yet again proved invalid

>>687848103
Okay serious question /b/ what reason do antigun activists have for reasons against gun ownership? Personally I can only see one possible reason which is 'If everyone has a gun then criminals can more easily obtain them' but that's retarded as criminals can get guns anyway.

>>687852110
kek

>>687852382
>making guns illegal wont stop criminals from getting guns
>making drugs illegal will stop criminals from
getting drugs

this is your logic, wat

>>687852370

>unless you live in a 3nd world country, which is true

Localized disasters do happen, though. My family went thru the LA Riots, dad had a shotgun because shit was getting crazy out in the streets. Same with Hurricane Katrina, no cops, people start going crazy and I would want a gun if I was there.

The idea that you can always rely on the police or government for protection is laughable and shows how naive some people are.

>>687852382
Are you actually asking? Just read this thread, then come back tomorrow and read the exact same thread again until you collect em all. The arguments come here literally every single day.

Lurk moar faggot.

>>687852903
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>>687851357
>>687851562
>>687852370
>>687852852
Samefag

>>687848103
they go kablooeybangitybang

>>687850842
Moe k2? Does it work well on rifle? I thought it was meant for pistol

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>>687851044
>I believe dumb shit I read on the internet: the post

>>687848103
you shouldn't worry about what i think about gun

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>>687848103
Pretty anti-gun. I'd at least like to remove large magazines from the market. Ban semi-automatics as they're easily made automatic. Pretty sure that'll get done within my lifetime.

>>687853222

Not a K2, that's a MIAD

>>687853433
Pretty sure it won't. Guns are an integral part of our lives and thats the way it stays

>>687853433
>I have no idea what I'm talking about: the post

>>687853045
Nope.tiff

>>687853433

> I'd at least like to remove large magazines from the market.

3D printers can print mags you retard. fucking kek, nice try tho faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGTriDDUpUk

>>687853543
I see. You like? I need furniture for my 80% lower ghost gun baby killer .30 caliber clip gun

gr8 b8 m8

Theyre fine. The problems is the arrogant, ignorant, self righteous paranoid faggots screaming about the constitution

>>687853433
I hope you get shot in the head

>>687852370
sole purpose of a gun is not to maim injure or kill they can dosent mean they will therefore your argument is outdated and invalid i bet you went to college and believed your professors words to a T. but you wont accept the fact that 99.99 percent of the guns in the us will never be used against another human mostly for target practice or hunting. so everything your liberal commie college professors slid in your mind is wrong and unsupported. if you remove black on black crime statistics the us has the lowest rate of violent crime in the world. already lower than the UK with the darkies per 100k. good luck with your humble pie dude come to middle America and see how safe it it is compared to wherever fagville you live at

>>687851357
How people spend their money is none of your business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TC2xTCb_GU

>OMG GUNS KILL PPLZ
>We must make sure no one owns one!11!!!
>Make guns illegal!
>But make drugs legal!

I'm confused. Every person should have the right to own a gun. Not be forced or banned from owning guns but should have the right to.

Surely the second amendment was written to ensure the people would never again have to live without power against a government and thus be able to rise up like they did against the British Empire? Right?

>>687853825

Sure, works fine. I also like the more basic magpul MOE grip. Both take inserts which I nice, I keep extra CR123 lithium batteries for my surefire light in the grip.

>>687848103
I'm fine with semi automatic firearms but I don't see why anyone needs full auto or even 3 round burst. None of the usual gun arguments apply.

>hunting
So you enjoy shredding animals to pieces instead of cooking an eating them with friends and family around a fire? You're a wasteful cunt.

>self defense
Why not be realistic about it? I own a gun and I if I use it for self defense, I only want to fire one shot. Are you looking for an excuse to ruin your house? Also, the point of self defense is not to kill the other person, it's to incapacitate them if you can. They still deserve a fair trial.

>sport shooting
Fully automatic guns take the fun out of sport shooting. Who cares about accuracy when you can spray your targets to compensate for a little penis.

>>687853966
Problems are criminals and the faggots who think we should give up guns for safety

>>687854179
Full auto = fun mode

Why wouldn't anyone like that?

>>687848103
Buying an ar-15 soon, own a mosin. so, i'd say i'm pro guns.
>inb4 murica

>>687854179
I hope a nigger mows you down in full auto

>>687854324
Not that anon but it's kind unnecessary.

>>687854206
yea them as well

>>687854179

>So you enjoy shredding animals to pieces instead of cooking an eating them with friends and family around a fire? You're a wasteful cunt.

You realize not all hunting is for meat, right? I assume you don't live in hog or coyote areas, those varmints are legally hunted to thin their numbers, not for food. I could see burst fire being useful to effectively dispatch large groups of both pests.

>>687848103
I'm thinking about buying one.

>>687853748
Prove it you faggot.

>>687854502

If you live in Murica you better hurry up, shit is going to get more difficult to find as we get closer to election time.

>>687854324
Because it's like those faggy soccer teams for sensitive kids where everyone gets a trophy. It's useless and encourages people to be weak, spineless, and not put in genuine effort. Utterly useless.

>>687848103
theyre cool, ppl just need to be educated about them

>>687854417
Not really. In my opinion don't give the cops anything we're not allowed to have

Machine guns are fucking bomb son, I shot a lot of them in the infantry

>>687852863
Most people's sense of security is only relying on someone else to provide it. Well during disasters those forces are elsewhere. All those idiots that are like "Bwuh, I'm a man, I can fight with my fists!" Are fucking insane. The majority of the people out there can't fight worth a shit.

>>687848103
I like em
Have a couple myself

>>687854502
Get a pistol. I like HK and smith and wesson but you gotta go try some out at the range and see what you like

>>687849262
>i can't trust myself with a gun

>>687854519
>posts screenshot
>ewe did that in paint1
>ok.jpg
Yeah, I'll pass.

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>>687850383
You underestimate how retarded and unstable much of society is. Giving people a deadly weapon even without a record but who are unstable is not good. Just look at how quickly people become irrational and pissed while driving. If everyone had a gun then nobody would respect guns. Your idea is bad.

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>>687854119
what are you doing making sense?

y u do dis

>>687854590
Good for having fun tho

>>687848103
I think that it is too late to effectively ban guns in america, you will only be taking away a great deterrent for lawful citizens. Its not likemost criminals get their guns legally anyways. I am for more stiffer background checks and regular validation on gun licenses.

>>687854958

>Vermont
>Most lax gun laws in America
>No permit required to conceal carry
>Murder rate 30% lower than Canada per capita

>>687848103
Well they keep the negroes off my yard so they can't be too bad.

>>687849891
Unnecessary like the 90% of the stuff we like, imbecile

>>687854404
I live in a white neighborhood. It's pretty quiet. Last nigger that was killed here tried to rob a convenience store and was shot by the owner. Also go back to /pol/ you animal.

>>687854463
>what is aiming?
Learn to aim you weapon correctly, pleb.

>>687854958
There have been times when everyone was expected to have a gun, like in the 1800s. And yes, guns were probably more respected then than they are now. Safe responsible gun ownership should be a staple element of our lives a lot more than it is now

>>687855048
Guns are not toys.

>>687852110
KYS Faggot

>>687854095
I'm doing engineering in Ireland so that little bit of preconceived bullfuck about college is totally invalid... Ireland is totally safe enough for me and we have some of the strictest gun laws in the EU...

>>687848103
Guns should jave never existed.

Only real men fight with swords

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>>687855089
guns are a necessary deterrent.

>>687852863

This guy gets it.

You are not a man if you defer your protection, and your family's protection to some anonymous, unaccountable stranger.

Even outside of civil unrest and disaster like in Baltimore, Ferguson, LA and Katrina, the police ARE NOT required to protect you. There is no law requiring police to intervene.

What happened during Columbine?

The first responders were there within 2 minutes. Yet the shooting lasted 40 or so minutes.

They established a perimeter, secured the location, but DID NOT attempt to intervene. DID NOT attempt to stop it.

>>687855291
>We should give up things because i personally dont deem them necessary.
You're the animal

>>687855283
yeah but that other stuff isn't inherently connected to killing, injuring and maiming things

>>687855426
In a controlled environment (range) and with proper safety precautions they can be fun. I never said they're toys

>>687853433
Pretty hard to make any semi-auto a full auto you asshat. You need a gunsmith and a parts kit, one won't even touch your gun and the other is next to impossible to get ahold of. If you are talking about bumpfire stocks... Still not fully auto, it's more of an exploit. The ATF knows everyone who bought one... which are 100% LEGAL.

Large Mags aren't the problem. Guns aren't the problem. People are the fucking problem. We've degraded to shoot first and not worry about the consequences society. People can't handle shade being thrown their way, they have to kill the person they disagree with. MENTAL HEALTH.

Also shows how naive you are. All I have to do is pay for a tax stamp, and 10grand for the gun and I can have a LEGAL fully automatic gun/silencer/ what ever.

>>687855892
>Cars kill people
>fast food kills people
>cigarettes kill people
>alcohol kills people
>other weapons kill people
None of these are illegal

>>687855596

Smart men fight with guns.

>>687856513
Smart men don't fight, but when they have to it's with a gun.

>>687855596
Get out of here you weeaboo faggot. Come at me with a sword and see what happens.

>>687856169

Yeah, but guns makey boomy boom scawy noiseys BAN BAN BAN

>>687848103
They're like Volvos. Kinda cool, owned by assholes.

>>687854958
The only thing not on record now is the private sales. Hell 99% of the guns you buy now are in a database, they come with a spent cartridge that let's you know that they shot the gun and recorded the ballistic data... should you use the gun in a way not intended... they will find you.

>>687856169
>cars are a valid and necessary form of transport, they are not purposefully designed to kill things
>fast food is food, it is made to be eaten, you cannot kill other, innocent people with fast food, you fucking retard
>cigarettes and alcohol are recreational stress relieving drugs that are voluntarily consumed by the involved parties, again, you cannot purposefully kill, injure or maim someone using these products
>other weapons, like what, other guns? crossbows? both should have laws. knives? not nearly as effective or easy to kill people with

I think thats all those retarded arguments debunked fairly validly, yet AGAIN, come on guys, I thought you guys thought you were smart, surely you can do better than this

>>687856867
>Fag

That's not the case

>>687857068

>implying self-defense and hunting aren't lawful activities

>>687850882
>implying all alcohol related deaths are deliberate.

Well done, cunt. Why don't you lurk some more?

>>687856799
I agree with this dude. And I'm a liberal.

>>687854417
The reason people buy full auto's is because they can. I don't tell you how to spend your money. If you want to buy 5 gigantic anime rubber asses and fuck the shit out of them... more power to you.

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>>687857232
I never implied that, learn to read laaaaad

>>687857086
Most of the guys in the club and at the range are assholes, and I'm not so delusional I consider myself particularly nice or friendly.

But I haven't got a Volvo, so it's gotta be the gun-thing.

>>687854179
It's not that people need them. It's that we have the ability to buy them. We are allowed to purchase military grade hardware because rights. And fuck anyone who tells me I can't spend my money how I want, especially if I'm a law abiding citizen who passes all the required checks.

>>687857068
Your argument is that each weapon stated above has an auxiliary purpose. Well guns can also be used to apply immense force from a remote location.

>>687857068
>nobody ever used alcohol to kill anybody.

>>687857855
how bout when you drive drunk?

>>687857668
no, my argument is that those things are not designed to purposefully kill, injure or maim people, guns, on the other hand, are

>>687857520

So then you have no argument? I don't get the point of your original comment.

Guns are mostly used for lawful purposes, and cause far less death than many other lawful things.

>>687848103
BAN ALL GUNS
THERE ARE MULTIPLE STUDIES THAT PROOF GUNS MAKE PEOPLE VIOLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>687848103
Primitive earthling weaponry

tterrifying :(

>>687858193
neither are guns. they'd do the exact opposite if one of them was pointed at you. in other words they serve more as deterrents than as a weapon, it's when placed in the hands of someone with intent to maim kill, injure and whatever that they actually become dangerous. so their purpose is relative. pls don't get mad

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>>687858285
LOL

>>687858193
The guns we buy today are not intended for militaristic purposes. People buy them because we can. They buy them to shoot stuff (not humans). Today, guns being used to kill people is an auxiliary purpose.

Nuclear power was conceived to kill countless people. Yet, today, it's used for the benefit of all mankind.

>>687848103
They're sexy as fuck.

they make me anxious

>>687858805
>benefit of all mankind

Yeah, well. . that's a little naive, Anon. But sweet. Really.
You're not supposed to be here until you're 18.

>>687858193

Is killing always unlawful? No, it's not. Killing animals is lawful with permits, shit with hogs you don't even need a permit in most states. Killing in self-defense is lawful, too.

Many things are designed to kill.

Should Ka-bar knives be banned? Or are they not "effective" enough to meet your arbitrary "scariness" threshold?

Your entire argument is based on feelz and your own fear.

>>687858529
Do you have a plasma rifle in the 40 megawatt range?

Gun control legislation has done more to enable gun-related violence than it has to reduce it. Much to a point where these public shooters become martyrs that forward liberal agenda, so there's a big smile on Obama's face every time a school gets shot up.

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>>687855773
>still not denying he browses /pol/ like the human garbage he is
>we might as well not have any laws at all because I have muh guns
It's honestly this level of retardation that makes me ashamed to be an American

>>687857589
Do you think you are also entitled to the right to buy nuclear weapons? What makes your fully automatic weapons different? Both are only useful for killing and destruction.

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>>687853301
kek
good work /k/omrade

>>687859512

Because we need to be able to match our own military force should there be a need to rise against tyranny. How can we do that with muzzle loaders. Trust me, your liberal ass would very much appreciate it.

>>687857314
god those asses look so fuck worthy though. Can't wait until they make sex bots that hot. I heard those things are like, 80 pounds too.

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>>687859843

>leftist logic

>>687859512
Your argument isn't coherent because nuclear weapons shouldn't even exist. But they do anyway, and therefore very strict controls need to be placed on the possession of them because they're just too dangerous.

Machine guns, rocket launchers, shotguns and pistols in the hands of everyday civilians should be legal

>>687859843
>implying
I'm a conservative. An easy solution to that problem is to take the guns from the soldiers you kill. It's basically what every successful rebellion throughout history has done. Steal the weapons you need. Think of your own weapons as matches to start a fire, you stupid fuck.

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>>687853433
>I'd at least like to remove large magazines from the market
Why? And how would you go about collecting the millions and millions that are already in private hands?

>Ban semi-automatics as they're easily made automatic
But that's already illegal. And you'd be banning virtually every modern firearm on the market

>Pretty sure that'll get done within my lifetime
Not a fat chance commie

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>>687848103
God created man and samuel colt made them equal.

>>687860448

If that's your option, so be it. But the second amendment prevents us from having to do that and should continue to do so. Btw, you don't sound like a conservative ;)

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>>687854417
>but it's kind unnecessary

Since when has necessity had anything to do with it?

>>687860448
Combine that with recruiting soldiers to your cause.

Then you'll gain the trained soldiers as well as weapons and other combat equipment.

>>687860799
Amen

>>687860363
What the fuck do you need a rocket launcher for other than killing and mass destruction? What is one practical, everyday use that it has? Name one.

Bans fix nothing
the violence doesn't go away
they just use zip guns and knives instead
sure you stopped that 6 kill spree
but 47 people still got stabbed in Detroit before 8AM even rolled around and it'll happen again tomorrow

fucking pointless

>>687861293
Having fun blowing shit up at a range?

Name one faggot, either you or someone you know who wouldn't want to go shoot a rocket at an old fucked up car in the middle of nowhere.

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>>687849262
>unnecessary, impractical and dangerous

>>687861293
I can take out a whole herd of filthy boar swine with it.

>>687860448
Really? It wasn't an opposing country supplying them with adequate firepower? I need to retake history.

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>>687861281
Hallelujah brother.

>>687861293
Something doesn't have to be practical to be fun and to possess

What is it with you people and "need"?

>>687861811
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition

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>>687861857
Not our fault we have to keep the world in check

>>687861920
He has a needy mentality

Must be more govt control. He should ho to North Korea and get an education on how governments really control their people

The kike owns majority stock in most of the gun companies

The kike made all the gun registration laws just like it did in the during Weimar Republic

The kike will confiscate your guns when the time comes for martial law

While you bitch about the loss of your expensive equipment, I'll ask you: "What the fuck did you idiots think would happen?"

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>>687862222
Quads of truth

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>>687861028
>you don't sound like a conservative
That's because I've thought about this whole thing for years and I'm sick of my fellow Amerifats shooting each other. I'm also sick of entitled kids shooting up schools and other public places with the fully automatic weapons they get from their retarded hillbilly parents. I don't want all guns banned, that always causes problems. I do want them to be regulated a bit like they are in Germany. You need a legitimate reason to own one. I'd also like better background checks, higher taxes, and longer waiting periods to get them. I don't see what's unreasonable about that. I've never felt that I need more than a shotgun to defend myself or my home anyway.

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>>687861857
What the absolute fuck? There were 21 years where some commie motherfuckers didn't get their freedom bombs?

>>687848103

I think they're really fun to shoot, and I love being able to hunt my own meat.

Unfortunately Americans have proven that as a nation, they're not mature or intelligent enough to responsibly use them. Sure there are individuals who use them maturely, but as a whole, Americans don't deserve guns.

>>687862363
>You need a legitimate reason to own one.
I've got one.
Because I fucking want one.
>Higher taxes
More people die from motor vehicle accidents so maybe we should raise the taxes on them too?
>I've never felt that I need more than a shotgun to defend myself or my home anyway.
The classic rebuttal. I really don't give a shit what you think you need. My owner a gun has nothing to do with your needs. I bet your also pro-choice, except when it comes to guns.

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>>687862363

>fully automatic weapons

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>>687862363
> I'm sick of my fellow Amerifats shooting each other
Pic related

>shooting up schools and other public places with the fully automatic weapons they get from their retarded hillbilly parents
They aren't fully automatic weapons retard, they are semi auto like literally every other modern firearm on the market

Full auto guns have been highly restricted and controlled for decades in America and are exceedingly expensive to obtain and require tons of paperwork and background checks

>You need a legitimate reason to own one
Sorry about Nazi Germany, but in America the only reason I need to cite to own a gun or 10 is the 2nd amendment

>I'd also like better background checks, higher taxes, and longer waiting periods to get them
How will making it harder for law abiding innocent citizens to get guns to defend themselves against criminals stop criminals from already having their guns illegally?

>I've never felt that I need more than a shotgun to defend myself or my home anyway
The fuck does that have to do with anything? Just because you feel you don't need something means others don't?

Try living in Texas near the Mexican boarder with armed and dangerous cartels running drugs across your land and tell me you'd only want a shotgun

>>687862046
is this shogun: total war II?

>>687853433
>remove large magazines from the market

>Ban semi-automatics as they're easily made automatic

How hard do you think it is to make a small magazine larger? They're literally just a box with a spring. Way simpler than making a full auto