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Hey /b/, I have a question:

Are all homosexual men pedophiles?

No faggot answer, or sjw bullshit, I want honesty here. Go to reddit, or fucking tumblr, if you want to paint gays as some kind of holy entity who can't have impure thoughts.
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shameless self bump for science!
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Are all straight men pedophiles?
Are all homosexual women pedophiles?
Are all straight women pedophiles?
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I'm gay. No.
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>>687705964
Men have a higher sexual drive than women do. Gay men are perverted by nature, and the vast majority of pedophiles are gays.

Considering the number of gay men out there, I really doubt many of them would refuse the opportunity of having free sex with a teenager, which makes me believe, if not all, the vast majority of them must be pedophiles.
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>>687706458
>Gay men are perverted by nature, and the vast majority of pedophiles are gays.
lol what

how old are you op
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>>687705319
>Are all homosexual men pedophiles?

Yes. They are. Being homosexual is being clinically sexually retarded. Part of this retardation and an huge increase in pedophilia.

97% of all sexually based serial killers are Homosexual.
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>>687707486
>lol what
>how old are you op

Nice retort. I am now convinced that your opinion is correct.
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>>687706397
It feels like you are being a little defensive, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt, and believe what you said.

If you personally aren't, what would you say about others like you? Would you say others who suffer from your affliction may be, or could be, potential pedophiles who simply resist their urge?

>>687707486
If you don't think gays are perverted, you probably don't know many of them. The part about most pedophiles being gay is just a statistical fact:

source: http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/HTML/facts_molestation.html

I don't see what exactly I got wrong there, I'm just adding 2+2 here, I'm not advocating against anything.
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>>687705319
i happen to have looked into this, homos are three times more likely to be a pedo than hetero doods. you're welcome
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I swear you must be 70 with your views OP
vid related. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmqNiFJyI28
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>>687708138
So you do agree that, if not all, most of them must be pedophiles, right?

It makes too much sense, but it's simply impossible to find any study that isn't soaked in liberal propaganda, or manipulated by lobbyists.
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>>687708968
the theory is that heteros tend to repress a lot of shit and homos just swing their dicks whereever they want to
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>>687705319
Most pedos are gay, most gays are not pedos.
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All the ones in my family.
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>>687706458
the vast majority of men are perverted y nature
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>>687709284
Thank you, someone wise in this thread.
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>>687705319
No. We gays want muscular men with large cocks, not emaciated little boys with sad little flaps of skin sticking out in their crotch.
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>>687709779
I agree.
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>>687708998
Ok, I don't care what you think about me. I'm talking about gays. Do you have anything to say about it or are you just going to tell me I'm not "on with the times"?

I said no faggots responding, I don't care what you think what I "should" be thinking about this subject, I only care about facts and logic, if you don't want to be logical, fuck off.

>>687709103
Yeah, I see how many heteros could be pedos too, especially the real ugly ones who are often rejected, and yes, the fact that they tend to be more promiscuous made me think about this subject recently.

>>687709284
This doesn't make as much sense as it does in your head, I'm afraid.
Most pedos are gay, and most gays can be pedos, there's just nothing really in it that doesn't make as much sense as what you just said. I'm looking for logical arguments that could debunk the idea, what you just said is just facebook tier bullshit.
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>>687708366
fuck me, youre a spastic
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>>687710117
someone can't tell me an answer that's a book long to a very simple question, I must be right because I'm a super smart intellectual
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>>687710117
Okay mate, answer me this, how is it your business if a man wants to stick his dick in another man?
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>>687705319
No, not all of them
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Come on fags of 4chan were making a gay porn thread!!
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>>687709779
This is a good argument, I think, but your personal preference does not invalidate the other possibility either. Also, there is also a chance that you may be repressing or in denial, which makes it really hard for me to take your word on it.

I hope you understand why what you just said could be interpreted as just bullshit. I'm not saying you are bullshitting, I'm saying there is no way to know if it isn't.

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>>687710679
>>687710907
This is disgusting.

>>687709708
There's no wisdom on what he said.

>>687710480
I really don't understand what are you trying to say here.

>>687710503
It's not, and that wasn't my initial question. Stick to the topic, please, or go somewhere else.

>>687710874
see >>687708473
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>>687706397
Faggot. Pedo detected.
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>>687711303
Here's my answer, most gays aren't pedophiles just like how most straights aren't pedophiles.
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>>687711303
I find it strange how you think the male forms disgusting, do you look down at your penis and cringe at it being there?
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>>687711303
If you think gays prefer tiny little boys with little cocks, where is the porn to support this? Why is all the porn muscular guys with giant cocks?
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>>687711717
You are assuming both hetero and homosexual men are equally perverted when it comes to promiscuity, which isn't the case at all, but then, again, it's hard to find a good source for that which isn't soaked in liberal propaganda.

Even if you were right, straight people represent over 90% of the entire population, but they account for less than 5% of all pedophiles. An equal number of hetero and homosexuals being pedophiles would result in a pedophile population that mimics the one of normal people, which isn't the case whatsoever.

Homosexual overrepresentation among pedophiles is what makes me question whether or not all of them actually are, but some opt to just repress it.
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>>687711960
Ok mate, you are going off-topic, and you can go suck a penis if you want. I want answers, and I don't care about your assumptions about me.

>>687712948
CP is against the law, but there is overwhelming indication that even then, it's still highly requested, and smuggled all over the internet, mainly by homosexual men.

What you are questioning is the availability of something, that is illegal, to support your argument for a lack of demand. This is a strawman, and nobody likes a strawman.
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>>687713834
But if gays prefer emaciated little children with tiny cocks, who is buying all the muscular adult male porn?
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The super gay guys are not pedos. They like grown men. I think it's the in between guys that like fem men.

Basically guys that like boys and traps, or even boys, traps, and women. I don't think this is the majority of gay guys, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a large pool of gay and "otherwise straight" faggots that were secretly wired this way.
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A teenage boy is basically a man with womanly traits (no masculine jaw line, no hair, etc.), so I think the "in between theory" or "trap lovers are pedos" theory makes the most sense.
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>>687714599
Again, there isn't an alternative to "muscular adult porn".

If we are going to make assumptions here, I would like to ask you:
If cp wasn't illegal, do you think the market for adult porn would shrink or not?
If you think it would, then tell me by how much: 1%? 5%? 10%? 50%? 100%? How much do you think?

The fact that any sort of alternative is highly reprehensible could explain the hegemony among these markets, not the lack of demand in itself.

>>687715426
>The super gay guys are not pedos. They like grown men. I think it's the in between guys that like fem men.
This thread made me believe the lack of availability of an alternative to "grown men" may be the reason for this tendency, which doesn't mean the attraction doesn't exist.

>I wouldn't be surprised if there was a large pool of gay and "otherwise straight" faggots that were secretly wired this way.
Me neither.

>>687715932
It makes sense, but I still don't think the ones who are not part of the "in between", are completely off the hook.
I see why some could be attracted to a certain body type, but that does not eliminate the possibility of them being equally attracted to the other one.
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>>687705319
Are their gay guys who are pedophiles? Yes.

Are their gay guys who are not pedophiles? Yes

What's the percentage? You'll find that answer heavily depends upon if you're part of the gay community or not.

most gay men will say there's the same percentage of gay pedophiles among gays as their are straight pedophiles among straights.

A million bucks says most straight, uneducated men will say most gays are pedophiles.
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Sounds like you worship a god.

Are all god worshippers stupid and gullible?
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>>687717083
I think the biggest argument against this is your assumed consistency of taste in the gay population. It's just not there. Everyone gay or straight just seems to be into totally random shit. I think we have to assume that, for whatever reason, "boys" is another thing on the list with all of the fetishes and weird shit we see.

>I still don't think the ones who are not part of the "in between", are completely off the hook.

No one is off the hook. I don't see any evidence that a legit gay man is any more likely to be a pedo than a churchgoing family man, but I do see evidence that they both CAN be.
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>>687717083
If child porn were legal, the gay porn market wouldn't shrink at all, because we gays aren't into children with their tiny emaciated bodies and shriveled little cocks.
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>>687717743

No one wants to reply because they know homophobia is deeply rooted in religious delusions.
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>>687719341

And the religious are the ultimate cucks.
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pedophiles are fucking immature assholes in my book
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>>687719504
You'd be a cuck too if you felt the ultimate pleasure of God's dick hitting your prostate.
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>>687705319
I have legitimately heard the stereotype/insult/whatever that all gays are pedophiles ever. Is this b8 or what?
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>>687705319
Not all.
Some gay men like the metrosexual faggots or gruff men that are hairy and muscular.

No idea of research or anything, but I would think that pedophilia is separate from being gay.

Like, most of the, aren't pedophiles living straight lives and then go after the boy booty cause its close to girl booty just cause its young and small?
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>>687719780

Well I can't argue with that.
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>>687705319
Milo is our God, is the correct answer
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>>687705319
>Are all homosexual men pedophiles?
>Go to reddit, or fucking tumblr, if you want to paint gays as some kind of holy entity who can't have impure thoughts.

You just fell for the same fallacy as the people you're arguing against. Well done.
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>>687708138
Citation needed
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>>687706458
Citation needed
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>>687721685
No, no he didn't, try again though cupcake
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>>687717483
You don't sound very educated yourself, if that is what you are implying with your last line, but ok.

How do you explain the overrepresentation of gays among pedophiles then?

- Let's say 1% of the entire population are pedophiles. Ok? Ok.
- Now, if you separate this number between heterosexuals and homosexuals, you'll find that over 95% of all pedophiles are homosexual.
- Now, if you were right, and the number of gay pedophiles and hetero pedophiles only mimics that of the rest of the population, then only 10% of all pedophiles should be gay, not 95%.

If all men show equal propensity of being a pedophile, then why is the number of gay pedophiles so disproportionately higher?

>>687717743
What you think about me doesn't interest me, only real answers about this topic.

>>687718607
>"boys" is another thing on the list with all of the fetishes and weird shit we see
I see your point, and maybe what makes me sound inconsistent is how unlikely it seems to me that a male can be biologically attracted to another male. I can understand how it could happen due to environmental or psychological influence, but not biologically.

>I don't see any evidence that a legit gay man is any more likely to be a pedo
Promiscuity inherent to them, and the overrepresentation of gays among pedophiles, is essentially what drives me to conclude that they are.

>>687718966
You are not even considering anything I say, you are just sticking with your assertion and repeating it over and over. There is no point in addressing your "argument" anymore.

>>687719341
It takes time to write something that makes sense and is factual. I don't like to make assumptions.

>>687719873
Did you even read the thread or are you just here to pretend you are enlightened and you just "know better"? Get out, please.

>>687720942
I responded to this at least 4 times already.

>>687721685
I don't tend to discuss against blind ideologues, only arguments.
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>>687722803
Take your stupid meaningless opinions and shove them up your ass
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the only thing that is certain is all fags are homo, all homos are gay and all gays are fags, everything else is speculation and skullduggery
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>>687705319
Of course not.

>>687722803
as for the biological aspect...It's been shown in various animal species that overpopulation leads to increased homosexuality.
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>>687709001
so if it says that the majority isn't pedophiles then it must be liberal propaganda? Are you insane? You're just as bad as anti-vaccine fuckheads who ignore everything except what they want to see.
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>>687705319

All men are pedos, quit lying to yourself
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>>687713049
citation?
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>>687705319
Obviously not you fucking retard.
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>>687706458
"Sex with a teenager"' that wouldn't make them pedos it would make hebephiles. Not that matters apparently.
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>>687706458
Being a pedo means liking pre-pubescent children. So technically you're wrong on that alone but also I think that's a wild assumption. Also why wouldn't we assume most straight men would fuck teenage girls? The most searched terms on porn websites tend to be "teen"
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>>687721800
>Sex Drive: How Do Men and Women Compare?
http://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare

>Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/HTML/facts_molestation.html

The part about gay men being perverted by nature is a bit harder to find, as a reliable source, because it's too controversial and too politically manipulated for it to be trustworthy.

What I can use is common sense. If men tend to be more inclined to seek for sex, it also means men tend to be more available to take advantage of any opportunity they find to have sex. All you have to do is add 2+2 there.

>>687723192
k

>>687723344
That's not helpful.

>>687723670
>as for the biological aspect...It's been shown in various animal species that overpopulation leads to increased homosexuality.
This is just speculative. The same way a higher population increases the chances of a certain individual trait appearing more often among individuals.

>>687723903
I don't know about straight men, but I wouldn't discard your possibility either.

>>687724024
are you the same guy as >>687721800 ? If so, go fuck yourself and google it.

>>687724128
... Ok.

>>687724426
Tomaeto-Tomato.
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>>687724851
Faggot lmao
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>>687724851
not the same guy but if you're the one making the point you're responsible for at least giving a source for it, fuckhead
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>>687706458
there are literally millions of fags that like older dudes specifically..
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>>687705319
Query involves absolutes (we're dealing with a sith here guys)

if you ask a question with a parameter in some sort of absolute, like all or none, you should know that the answer is immediately no, as even fundamental things like physics have exceptions to them.

Conclusion: this question is an attempt to provoke a response that is heated and not logical. Rephrase: this post is bait
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>>687710117
>>687726133
Conclusion is further supported by the baitfaggotry demonstrated by OP
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This thread is one big ol' trigger bait.
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>>687724851
Men and women actually have an equal sex drive, societal constructs tell women to not express their sex drive. by this logic, there should be a plethora of Mrs. Robinson types out there waiting to fuck young boys.

Conclusion: OP is a fag, and by his own logic a pedophile
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rate me homo anons
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>>687724696
Sure, what I'm basing this on is the overrepresentation of gay men among pedophiles, or at least the convicted ones.

If an equal percentage of the population of straight and gay men were to be pedophiles, we would have an overwhelming majority of straight men being represented, which isn't the case, it's the opposite.

>>687724923
k

>>687725035
Yeah, sure, there are sources on some of the other posts, but if you really think there will ever be a study on this subject, showing that gays are pedophiles, you are not picturing all the implications it would cause. Even if there is one, there's too much lobbying going on, and too much political manipulation for it to ever be published.
Then, again, if you are just here to deny this possibility simply because you are too ideologically corrupt to consider it, then there is no point in showing you any source, simply because you will discredit anything no matter how accurate and factual it is.

>>687725547
I have to assume this would fall into some kind of fetish category, since it doesn't make any sense biologically.

>>687726133
>if you ask a question with a parameter in some sort of absolute, like all or none, you should know that the answer is immediately no, as even fundamental things like physics have exceptions to them.
This is more philosophical than factual.

>Conclusion: this question is an attempt to provoke a response that is heated and not logical. Rephrase: this post is bait
Why would I still be here, dismissing shitposts, and taking seriously serious answers, if I'm not looking for a reasonable explanation?

You made just as many assumptions as I did, but you are making the mistake to think yours are "better" simply because you are the one asking questions. Learn how to analyze something for what it is, and consider it the way it is being presented, instead of dismissing it simply because you don't have an answer.

>>687726735
>>687726385
You can leave, if you want.
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As a homosexual man, straight man, homosexual women, and straight women all in one, I can answer your question with yes. I love me a teenie weenie baby beenie
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>>687726843
>Men and women actually have an equal sex drive

Stopped reading there

>>>/tumblr/

Go back, I said no tumblr, or reddit, faggotry here.
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>>687728570
Pfffffhahaha said bait.jpg
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>>687728647
Wonderful.
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>>687728647
Honestly. You can die in a pit of fire. As a heterosexual man, I will never in y life go near kids. I live to the standards of 'if there age is on the clock, they are too young for the cock.'
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>>687729227
So what you're saying is, at 13 and over they can get that cock?
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>>687729227
You are being too defensive over something that hasn't even been suggested.
I'm not trying to accuse you of anything, but this sort of attitude only encourages people to think you have something to hide, or that you are in denial. Still, this topic isn't about straight men.
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>>687729227
So it's 60 year olds and up for you then?
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>>687729436
They have a right to decide but looking what kids do now a days...my god.

Kids are dressing up and acting like mini hoes and mini gigalos. If they are acting like they are mature, then they deserve a good dick of reality
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>>687710318
Yes he is the spastic here
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>>687729823
Yeah I read shit wrong
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>>687730216
The way it sounds in your head doesn't always reflects what you were thinking when you put it into words. I see what you are saying.
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>>687708473
No, I was just answering your question. If statistics say that most pedophiles are homosexuals, that doesn't mean that EVERY homosexual is a pedophile. Anyone can be a potential pedophile: gay, straight, male, female, black, white, dat boi.....
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>>687730938
>Anyone can be a potential pedophile: gay, straight

If anyone can be a potential pedophile, then why is it that the vast majority of them are gays?

If the possibility is equal for every single case, shouldn't the number of pedophiles roughly reflect the same percentages of (homosexuals, straights, etc) the overall population?
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On the whole no, there's a chance of them existing within them, like any other group. but as far as I can tell, there's no direct link.
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>>687728570
so basically you won't give a source because you assume I won't believe and you don't believe any sources that contradict your own beliefs because that would mean it's just liberal bias

what the hell is wrong you?
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>>687731639

I thought the Catholic Church was against gays?
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