After chronic use for many years, physical withdrawal will happen

Usually, kid stoner just don't want to stop

at worst u dont eat as much or sleep as well for a week after stopping, but thats only if you were using super heavily. if you go from using a small amount once every day to not using, there are no withdrawals.

>>687633908
Same for me. Smoked for about 2 years and stopped from one day to another. No problem.

>>687633747
Quentin pls

Haven't smoked in a year.

This is the weakest bait ever

>>687634172
How long did you smoke before that? What is to say you won't be back? Sounds like a typical stoner in denial, why lie?

Took a break after smoking daily for 5 years.

I felt like shit for a week. Hard to sleep and eat. Diarrhea. Stomach pains. Then I was fine though

>>687634150
Confirming you smoked for 2 years proves it, you were addicted for 2 years, quitting does not imply it is not addictive.

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>>687633747
Non addictive, telling someone to stop who doesn't want to stop a proven time and time again harmless drug proves absolutely nothing. Source or your a fuck nut bait bitch.

>>687634105
Not having withdrawals does not prove it is not addictive, if not addictive, people would be saying, I smoked once and never did it again.

>>687633747
Addiction is a mental disorder. Anything can be addictive. Somethings effect he brain more negatively during duration of abuse. I don't think anyone with descion making privileges regarding marijuana legalization disputes it's potential for abuse by addicts.

>>687634427
I'm sorry you can't understand that when someone consistently does a thing and claims they are not addicted is not a valid argument for "not being addicted". If you are not addicted, you would not be doing it.

>>687634427
Source is personal experience. Doing anything daily for 5 years will make you feel "off" after stopping. (Porn, video games, etc)

>>687634492
Your opinion is as weak as your cock. Back it up with source to credible science. If you keep sharing your "opinions" your attempting a terrible bait.

>>687633747
its psychologically addictive to the point literally ANYTHING is psychologically addictive. any activity. any behaivour. any subtance. you're a fucking retard. kill yourself.

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>>687633747
At first I thought you were serious. Then I read your replies. Nice try though

>>687634666
Nice trips, but no it doesn't prove a damn thing. You can like eating a certain thing, you don't have to eat it but it's your favorite. Just because you eat it regularly and someone thinks it's excessive, doesn't mean you have to stop and it doesn't prove you're addicted either.

victimless crime (oxymoron, its not really a crime, ur busted ignorant retarded autistic opinions the crime)

- utopia police

>>687633747
u got a point for some ppl, if u dont have direction in life everything is addictive tho

>>687634750
>any substance

So you CAN be addicted to weed?

>>687633747
If i get weed i smoke it every day but the day i run out, i quit without problem. In my case its a psychological thing. But i would not call it addiction

If I drink milk everyday for 2 years because I like it does it mean I'm addicted? Weak b8 m8

>>687634929
nope. just the behaivoural process, not the substance itself

substance USE

>>687634979
Right, like I haven't smoked in 3 or so days. Yes I want to, but I'm not gonna go rob a gas station to buy some. Ffs

OP here, okay, of course faggots will claim bait. But instead of actually posting an intelligent reply, people claim that it is not addictive. If it was not addictive, you would try it once and never do it again, instead, people say "I did it for years and quit" or "there are not withdrawals".. this is proof it is addictive. There are so many people that literally do it for years and THEN quit. Even referring to it as quitting proves the point. My question is...
Where is proof it is not actually addictive, why don't people who claim it isn't ever say "I smoked it once and never did it again"

>>687634903
Yeah but appearantly smoking weed is for some strange reason far more addictive than job interviews to most stoners. It's almost like drugs are pretty high up on the list of things that cause addiction.

>>687634427
Marijuana is not harmless. Especially to adolescents and people who haven't had their frontal lobe fully develope yet.

Memory problems are abundant with habitual users and smoking it puts tar I your lungs just like smoking Anything else. And just like smoking Anything else it also will affect your gums and teeth.

Saying marijuana is harmless is just flat wrong. Saying that it's anymore dangerous than alcohol, tobacco or a range of prescription drugs is also false.

>>687634686
Claiming bait and asking me for science is just shitposting. You literally have no argument and it angers you. You are so cool! and smart! Thanks for literal faggotry.

>>687635242
sort urself out, i am not addicted neither i would be if it was legal, so let them be stoners fuck them, dosnt mean ppl should go to jail just cuz they had some marijuana

>>687635200
Blow it out your ass. You're claiming every possible thing you can partake in is addictive with this beta bitch argument.

>>687635200
even if it is its none of ur fucking business try minding ur own

fucking schizophrenic paranoid society fed disinformation and bullshit for a hundred years get the fuck back in the factories you lazy SHITS

>>687634750
So.. you just insulted me by agreeing it is in fact addictive. So thank you!

>>687634776
I am serious, thanks for shitposting.

>>687635200
By that logic literally every thing you do more then once is additive.

>>687635295
>frontal lobe fully develope yet.
thats fromcombused plant matter inherent in any smoke. same shit advice warning to a kid sitting around a fire every night. vape it if ur that concerned retard faggot

inhaled carcenogenic plant matter same shit in the kids in ethiopian huts same shit in cig users same shit in ur polished wooden floors fire places

>>687634338
Like 6 years.

This isn't heroine or coke bro, everybody knows the truth about marijuana.

>>687634857
Point taken, but how can you claim not having self control does not denote addiction. If you can't stop eating something, that is fine if it is healthy, but if you have a heart condition and keep eating junk, there is a problem.

>>687633747
look at all this bait, I can't carry it all

It is addictive.. but its not hard to quit.. you get withdrawal for 1-2 weeks, then your life is a little boring for 2-3 months and after that you're back to normal.. done it several times

>>687634903
Good point, seriously, see this is what I am looking for!

>>687633747
so is fast food, porn and every mesly distraction from this repetitive tumbleweed that we call modern life

>>687635388
i said you can be psychologically addicted to the use of anything, process, or one. but no its not addictive in the sense your autistic autistic retarded ass was implying being physiological.. (funny thing is cannabis cures autism)

>>687635200
I drank milk once and liked it. I drank it again and again. By your logic, I'm obviously addicted. I think I need help. Thanks OP

>>687634666
You consistently eat food, does that mean you're addicted?
Just because a person enjoys smoking weed doesn't mean they can't stop. It means they don't want to because it's enjoyable. It can be addictive in the way that gambling internet and video games can be addictive but that is a smaller margin of people who use marijuana and have addictive personalities. It isn't like tobacco or heroin where the chemicals cause a need in the brain to have more.

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>>687635555
Quads spoke the truth

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And yet when it came time for me to get a job I just put the shit down with zero problems.

>>687635555
Checkd

>>687635355
1: Lrn 2 spell
2: I don't care about legality, idiots will be idiots

>>687635126
not going to extremes does not make it any less of an addiction, my point still remains, which people are completely not understanding; if you keep doing it, regardless of how long you go without it, you are addicted. People who are not addicted do not do it at all... ever.

>>687633747
You're confusing addiction with the act of smoking, just because you smoke doesn't mean you're addicted. People have other reasons to smoke than just being addicted

>>687635017
done replying to shit posters. gtfo

>>687635200
Its not because you like doing something that it means you are addicted to it. Addiction means you have a NEED to do it, if you can stop without any problem and without feeling the need i would not call it addiction. BUT thats my opinion

>>687635058
Addiction to substance use?

>>687635017
You won't get withdrawal if you stop drinking milk dumbass

I smoked every day for a year and a half when I was depressed. One day I just thought wow this is so stupid and i stopped. 2 years clean now

>>687633747
I think you're mistaking addictive for habit forming. Unless you don't really want to distinguish.

Basically weed is extremely habit forming because you eventually end up doing it with everything and end up not wanting to do things without it. It becomes a huge part of your routine.

Addictive, on the other hand, is when you have a physiological response to the absence of what you're taking. Like when someone stops drinking and has a seizure or if you got off medications and it makes you feel sick.

Weed definitely doesn't do that when you stop. People just can't stop because they can't change.

>>687635609
Gambling, Internet and Video Game addiction are pretty common and harmful, but cognitive dissonance makes everyone believe they can "stop" whenever they want. I mean it's pretty sad how some people just lie to themselves consciously, it's almost like they have poor impuls control and don't want to take responsibility for their actions.

>>687635357
Please tell me more about how you are angry that you are incapable of forming an intelligent response.
Go shitpost in a trap thread.

>>687635867
this /thread

Every one has their vices, marijuana is healthier than your energy drinks and pizza everyday.

>>687635295
No one's arguing that. Overall it is very harmless. No carcinogens, no overdose. If you're a parent that allows your children to smoke or just can't watch them closely sure that can be an issue. But the thing is, cannabis (it's proper name) has a mad hype to it. Everyone wants it but it's super illegal in most places. So just like age limits on everything or restrictions, it naturally attracts pubescent children but so does alcohol and cigarettes (things advertised in magazines and tv, things that can do even more harm to children like cause cancer) basically I'm getting at the fact that it isn't truly a drug and it also isn't truly an addictive substance. You can prove that cigs have nicotine, alcohol had addictive properties, and many other serious life altering drugs do too. Cannabis has zero.

>>687635371
Very intelligent.

Whilst I support the legalisation of marijuana, I always find it funny how stoners are like "dude, just legalise pot. Do you have any idea how much tax revenue that would make". Fuck off cunt, you could care less about tax revenue, you just want to smoke pot legally.

>>687634345
Fuck man.....just went through this

>>687635423
Yes, in a way... the fact is not necessarily more than once (my bad), just that fact that something which is not necessary for living (consumption wise) that you continue doing even without reason is an addiction. Yes TV can be addicting lets say, but that is not a consumable.

>>687635555
Telling it like it is, nice quads

>>687633908
Addiction is much more than physical withdrawals. OFC you can be addicted to pot, just like you can be addicted to sex, TV, food and all kinds of other behaviors that are a detriment to your life.

Addiction is defined as continued use despite negative consequences.

>>687635988
And reap the benefits of many other pros about legalization, dumbass

>>687635526
Truth? what because of internet articles? proof is in what you just said, you smoked for 6 years. You smoked for 6 years, consuming into your body something that has no necessity for your well being whatsoever.. Yes it is not heroin, or coke, does not mean it isn't an addiction.

>>687635782
fuck off retard

>>687635531
shitpost somewhere else you waste.

>>687633747
I think it is and isn't, depends on your definition of addiction

It defiantly can be mentally addicting, but so can almost thing that is pleasurable i.e. sex, chocolate. It's not physically addicting like heroin or crack or even nicotine. As a cigarette and weed smoker, I think it would be harder for me to stop smoking cigarettes than weed.
>>687635988
I want it legal so I can just buy it at a store and not having to deal with any fuccbois

>>687635604
That is not the point, you are defending something, a consumable that does not need to be consumed for life. And you go on to get angry by lashing out with name calling, which clearly proves my point that most people are incapable of forming a logical response. Cannabis cures autism?

>>687635867
^

Weed is clearly addictive. Here is a a big one you get from stoners
>bring sober just feels so boring
Another point id like to say is all of the stoners who try to prove that weed doesnt make you stupid. Like 'i can do everything high and it doesnt affect my performance' but you are ALWAYS FUCKING HIGH SO YOU ACTUALLY DONT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE

>>687636110
>just that fact that something which is not necessary for living (consumption wise) that you continue doing even without reason is an addiction

That is not what addiction is, addiction is defined by the negative consequences of the behavior.

Watch TV when you get off work everyday?
This is a habit.

Watch TV all day instead of going to work and get fired.

This is an addiction.

>>687635605
No, you see, milk is something you drink for the sake of having nutrition. Weed is not nutritional and has no positive effect in the sense of if you did not use it at all, it would not cause a problem. Not to say you NEED milk, but it can clearly help your body in a more positive way than smoking something for years.

>>687635609
Jesus this is like the same regurgitated bullshit, I can't keep responding to it.

You can be addicted to practically anything. For clear example, if OP likes sucking cocks then, by the time he just want to stop, he will feel like kind of weird. Then, there're the effects of drugs which can be a lot and while smoking cigarretes is bad for your lungs, so better you quit now, smoking marijuana isn't that bad at all. So is up to you. If you cant control yourself then its not the drug, its YOU.

>>687636717
well actually it goes like this for humans

air
water
endocannabinoids

fucking retarded

>>687635659
Yes, but by doing it and wanting to get a job you "had" to quit. Which means if you never did it, which you have no technical reason for survival to smoke; you are addicted in the sense that it is completely unnecessary but you keep doing it anyway.

>>687635744
Then why not just stop doing it? There are not real benefits to it.. other than stoner arguments.

>>687635200
I have a cousin who tried smoking weed once and never did it again because she didn't enjoy it. Now there's no real way to prove that this is true, but it happened. At the same time though, there are people who have smoked one cigarette and never done it again and not been addicted, the difference though is that cigarettes contain substances that cause people to easily become addicted, but marijuana had been proven to not be an addictive substance. Some people may develop an addiction to weed but people can also get addicted to anything enjoyable that is done to an extreme such as watching porn which raises dopamine levels which when done in excess can cause addiction, but not everyone who derives pleasure from watching porn becomes addicted to it just because they do it once in a while or even once a day while jerking off, because unless it gets to the point where you need it in order to function you aren't addicted

>>687635988
Are you serious? I wanted it legal for that reason before I even started smoking. It would be huge. At least as much as the revenue from alcohol and tobacco.

>>687635772
Probably one of the only decent responses.

I have 5 grams of some real good shit in my jar. But I'm not smoking for a few days, i got shit to do i need a clear head for. Its only addictive if you have no self control.

>>687633747
I used to smoke weed a out once a day for months and then I stopped, that's not addictive

>>687633747
>ran out of weed a week ago
>don't have extra money at the moment
>don't buy weed, and pay my bills.
>am just fine.
sorry junior. Your little fantasy is incorrect.

>>687633747
I used to smoke 6 or 7 times a day for a good year, and that was after having been smoking for 4 years already

I haven't smoked in 6 minths, not because I tried so damn hard to quit, just because I now have other things to keep me busy

It's not all that addictive man

>>687636865
You have no idea what the definition of addiction is.

We are addicted to air because we need it for living. Can you live without marijuana? If your response is no, then you are addicted.

>>687635867
I am fine with distinguishing the two, but I have witnessed an EXTREMELY fine line between stoners claiming they are not addicted and occasional smokers who just enjoy it. A stoner claims they are not addicted but needs to "piss clean" for a job... a regular user who occasionally partakes will not have this problem. The real difference between habit forming and the addiction portion is when a person must defend the difference. Such that a person who smokes everyday needs to justify the "reasons".. Smoking everyday is a completely unnecessary "Habit" such that if you cannot stop yourself from doing so, you are addicted. I sincerely appreciate your well thought out response. I agree and disagree, thank you for not being an idiot.

>itt anons in denial

>>687633747
I've been smoking for more than 15 years.
>all day, every fucking day
>around 2 to 5 grams a day
Recently had to quit, and I did with no problem.

tl;dr kill yourself OP and put this shit bait up your anus.

>>687636956
The truth in one post

>>687635949
True, really true.. Good point

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>>687637200
And you had absolutely no discomfort after?

#huffFebreezeForFeminism

>>687633747
tell college student to not consume alcohol and tabaco, they are not adicctive becuase they are legal right?

a sad crying marihuana leaf? were the fuck did you get that? ffs OP you are the most autist faggot you could be

weed is addictive just as being a faggot is addictive to you.

congratulations you are adictted to attention whoring and you are adicted to faggotry too.

>>687637392
Look me in the eye and tell me you had no negative side effects.

Either way, just because you stopped smoking and somehow didn't feel a thing doesn't mean everyone is the same.

>>687633747
bad bait 3/5 I replied. I haven't smoked since january and haven't felt compelled to

This is cannabis dependence

Use of cannabis for at least a one year period, with the presence of at least two of the following symptoms, accompanied by significant impairment of functioning and distress:

Difficulty containing use of cannabis- the drug is used in larger amounts and over a longer period than intended.

Repeated failed efforts to discontinue or reduce the amount of cannabis that is used

An inordinate amount of time is occupied acquiring, using, or recovering from the effects of cannabis.

Cravings or desires to use cannabis. This can include intrusive thoughts and images, and dreams about cannabis, or olfactory perceptions of the smell of cannabis, due to preoccupation with cannabis.

Continued use of cannabis despite adverse consequences from its use, such as criminal charges, ultimatums of abandonment from spouse/partner/friends, and poor productivity.

Other important activities in life, such as work, school, hygiene, and responsibility to family and friends are superseded by the desire to use cannabis.

Cannabis is used in contexts that are potentially dangerous, such as operating a motor vehicle.

Use of cannabis continues despite awareness of physical or psychological problems attributed to use- e.g., anergia, amotivation, chronic cough.

Tolerance to Cannabis, as defined by progressively larger amounts of cannabis are needed to obtain the psychoactive effect experienced when use first commenced, or, noticeably reduced effect of use of the same amount of cannabis

Withdrawal, defined as the typical withdrawal syndrome associate with cannabis, or cannabis or a similar substance is used to prevent withdrawal symptoms.

This is the severity.

>>687638074

Mild – Two or Three Symptoms
Moderate- Four or five symptoms
Severe- Six or more symptoms

>>687638014
just accept it.

every substance is different.

there is nothing addictive in cannabis. You just create an habit.
Like being "addcited" to watching TV or something

>>687636949
Being stoned is a benefit if not being stoned makes you sad.

>>687633747
what makes people like you even start b8 threads like this on 4chan.

>>687638174
/thread

often its used as medicine to deal with something like pain or depression for example

like blaming a Hemophiliac person for trying to use a bandaid to stop from bleeding to death and saying they were addicted to bandaids.

>>687633747
>Marijuana is addictive.

You're an idiot.

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>>687633747

Everything has addictive qualities.

>kill yourself you weak fuck.

>>687637562
The ocasional 's bong would be pretty nice right about now' moment, but I didn't have any, so i didnt smoke any and that was that

>>687636949
Explain to me why i want to stop.

>>687636410
Same here, if I quite cigarettes, I might turn to joints for the physical feeling.

>>687633747
Smoke it to find out

>>687633747
A mental addiction is called a dependency friend. Your body doesn't need weed to feel normal (like it would with heroin) it's your mind that 'thinks' it needs it.

>>687638174
>physically and mentally dependent on a particular substance, and unable to stop taking it without incurring adverse effects.

I stop smoking and I feel like shit. Literally the definition of addicting. Just accept that people can be addicted to getting stoned and can have adverse effects after quitting. I smoke weed daily still, but being ignorant and saying its a myth is a lie

>>687636691
I disagree, but I guess that is my point. I like the simplicity in this response though, I really think this is valid even though I slightly believe it is possible that having a habit can be an addiction, does it ruin your life? NO, does it take time away from a more productive life? YES.. so I guess it is true, it is not an addiction in the sense of ruining or making life worse, but it certainly (to me) is something that is not exactly making it better.

>>687636857
Nice point
If you cant control yourself then its not the drug, its YOU.

>>687636863
Too advanced for me, or you just literally can't form a better response.

>>687636956
Valid argument, I appreciate this!

>>687637069
Yes and no, good point.. But by having it and knowing you will smoke it, does this not show a sign of addiction? Keeping something that you will do knowing you will do it..

>>687637188
Not exactly and intelligent response.. but what else should I expect?

>>687637200
You smoked for years! How does that not show an addiction.. just because someone quits does not mean you were not addicted to begin with.

>>687634492
Im not sure, thats like saying i jerked off once and never did it again. Just because someone enjoys something doesnt mean their addicted. Now when it starts affecting the rest of your life you might have an abuse problem.

>>687637215
"Addiction is a condition that results when a person ingests a substance (e.g., alcohol, cocaine, nicotine) or engages in an activity (e.g., gambling, sex, shopping) that can be pleasurable but the continued use/act of which becomes compulsive and interferes with ordinary life responsibilities, such as work, relationships, or health. Users may not be aware that their behavior is out of control and causing problems for themselves and others."

So having to "quit" for a job, proves it is an addiction since it is interfering, I see no reason to state otherwise.

>>687639018
ur smoking tobacco tho?
Because tobacco =/= cannabis.

There is indeed addictive stuff in nicotine

>>687637392
Please tell me more how you did it for 15 years and claim you are not addicted.. Just because you stopped does not negate 15 years of abuse. I'm sorry your argument is so poor you had to resort to shitposting.. If this was bait I would have been gone 20 minutes ago.

>>687639177
Once you start talking specifics, there is cannabis use disorder which is divided into abuse and dependence.

According to the criteria anyone who smokes daily and suffers any negatives at all has a abuse disorder.

So yea most users are "addicted" but when talking about addiction all that matters are the negative consequences.

>>687633747
compared to nicotine the withdrawals are minimal. I've smoked it for years then quit no problem. Only recently i've been smoking again but it's like only for social occasions.

>>687637962
Please tell me more!

Shitpost somewhere else or form an intelligent response.

>>687638024
But it is not like you smoked once and stopped.. Quitting (for the 100th time) does not prove you are not addicted.

>>687639856
what are u even talking about

>>687638024
>claims bait

okay so after 20 responses claiming bait, each one fails to actually form an intelligent response... so you are shitposting, good job!

>>687640063
don't bother with straight edge normies with no experience.

>>687633747
Cigarettes are addictive as well and i went cold turkey without any effort

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>>687633747
shit bait

not even gonna r8, m8

>>687638210
I don't know why but this is my favorite response..

>>687638233
ERRRRRR BAIT ERRRR IM LETT ERRR

Stop shitposting you cancer

>>687638385
Not exactly

>>687638519
very intelligent respons! slow clap

>>687633747
sadly there are many uneducated conservatives who actually think like op

>>687640454
The medical community agrees there is use for cannabis as medicine.

>>687638529
Apparently bait for shitposters like you

>>687638602
Oh yay, how thoughtful

>>687635727
Just so you know, I see what you're doing, and it's tiresome. Talking about words to some is funny. =D

>>687638985
Good response, top 10 ITT

simple and well put

>>687635823
unless you've developed a tolerance!

>>687639735
Exactly, abuse vs addiction in this sense, abuse being doing something way to much to the point of affecting your daily life, addiction being doing something without stopping, but having no legitimate reason to do so.

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>>687633747
Crack, heroin, meth, cocaine, opium, benzodiazepines, antidepressants, alcohol, etc.... Those ARE ADDICTIVE drugs and you experience withdrawal syndrome when you quit using them......

On the other hand, marijuana IS NOT. You don't experience any of that even if you've been using it a lot for years.

>>687639860
Well put, much appreciate this is the kind of stuff I am looking for. See this is what keeps my faith in /b/!

>>687635727
Then I guess every person who drinks a alcoholic beverage for dinner once a week is an alcoholic. Or since you use aspirin for headaches maybe once a month you're addicted to aspirin.
I didn't realize there were people this misinformed about drugs in general.

>>687640063
What are you even talking about? The fact you cannot actually form a valid argument? Look at the actually decent arguments ITT and tell me yours is not (in comparison) completely idiotic

>>687640335
You joined the club of idiots by shitposting, congrats you cancer.

>>687640532
Okay, so I posted this, and expected intelligent responses, which I received. You did not post an intelligent response and you claim I am uneducated for literally wanting to have a valid discussion about this? Okay, well it is obvious what type you are, you cannot actually form a response without insult, which literally makes you seem uneducated, and if educated; not very intelligent.

>>687641062
u moron, what argument??
im was just sharing my experience: I used MJ heavily for 15 years and quit cold turkey without any problem.

? what do u want me to tell u, dipshit

>>687640538
But not smoking it daily for blind purposes. When you use tylenol for a headache, that is a medical purpose. When you smoke daily for not reason, that is not a medical purpose.

>>687641344
>trying this hard

>>687640912
this

>>687640912
Oh look another shit tier response.

>>687640937
This thread is nearing a point where 10/50 posters are actually forming logical and intelligent response and the rest (you) are regurgitating bullshit with no actual information.

>>687641440
victimless crime soft drug psychological ie 100% non addictive literally no arguement against people using cannabis in the privacy of their own homes for ANY use

>>687641375
Haha, so you keep posting literal unintelligent nonsense, which makes you ignorant. I'm done, thanks for proving your uselessness.

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>>687641504
>trying this hard

right back at you.

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>>687641524
cmon anon

>>687641668
You cannot seem to make a response that is worthwhile.

>>687641744
>nonsense
not my fault you have shit reading comprehension.

>>687641899
ur not worthwhile and it wasnt a response it was an edict

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Good one my dude

>>687641917
Oh, yes me so sowwy u use babbling to form argumenttts n cant twype or form complete thouwts.

And I am the one that can't comprehend!

>>687633747
There is no physical dependency, which is the commonly thought of definition of addiction, but there is the possibility of psychological dependency, which literally any substance or activity can bring about. Weed has no capacity to cause physical dependency, but it's commonplace for a psychological dependency to develop.

>>687641998
Obvious ignoramus.

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This is now a stoner thread

>>687642053
What's your source on that, High Times magazine? lmao

>>687633747
I just quit two months ago, no stress.
I've been smoking for 10 years and I only had 4-6 months sober within those 10 years.

I didn't quit because I had to, but I just thought it became really boring after a so many years.

I didn't notice a thing after giving it up...
So I guess weed just affect people very different.

>>687633747
You have poor willpower and can't accept it.

>>687640372
Maybe that's because this is the ultimate reason why people do drugs?

>>687642105
eat shit and die

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>>687642049
Lol, you are SUPER angry JUST because I shared my experience with cannabis!!

How crazy are you?
Just accept the facts and stfu. Don't be such a fascist.

If you dont like weed for wahetevr reason, just dont use it.
Mind ur own business and let other "die" and be "addicted" to it. That's not your problem.

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>>687639565
Pretty pat reply.

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Lol it's not even bait at this point. I smoked and did pills and shit for 6 months. (Mostly smoking) and i quit and went cold turkey without so much as a headache.

>>687633747
It's as addictive as washing your hands.
The rest is propaganda. You're a fag for believing the lies.

>>687633747
I quit last year no problem after daily smoking for 5 years. It's not the pot it's your lack of mental stability. Get right in your head and don't blame a substance.

>>687634105
Sleep disturbance can last up to 6 months. You don't dream as much when you smoke daily. It's hard to get used to dreaming vividly again.

>>687634345
You got food poisoning LOL

>>687644279
chill, faggot

I smoke every so often. Maybe 2 times a month or so. Never have I been addicted to weed. Theres nothing in it to addict you.

>>687644279
Chill, faggot

SMOKE WEED EVERY DAY XD SO MUCH ENLIGHTENMENT MANE MAKES ME SOO CHILL AND CONTROLS MY ANGER PROBLEMS 420 PEACE AND LOVE MANEEE <3 SATIVA AND LISTEN TO BOB MARLEY AND HAVE BOB MARLEY COCK RING

>>687633747
Smoked for 5 Years straight daily. I've currently been sober for 2 years because I don't have the time to myself anymore.

Feels bad when you make 86k but work. 45 avrg a week doing what you love

>>687633747
Are you sure? Quitting on Cannabis was pretty easy, quitting on nicotine was a nightmare.

>>687633747
weeds not addictive at all. I haven't smoked in like 2 weeks and i could get as much as i want.

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>>687645749
Honestly i think you're a pussy who doesn't know how to put down the pipe.

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>>687633747

I've quit Nicotine and Heroin. In both cases I was basically dead for a week.

If I however run out of weed... I find the day a bit boring, but theres no withdrawal besides boredom.

>>687633747
everything is addictive

>>687644279
chill, faggot

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Cannabis is physically addictive
We all have endocannabinoid systems whose CB1 receptors become diminished with prolonged use of cannabis. Over time our bodies ability to naturally create cannabinoids is also diminished. Thus, the cannabis user relies on cannabis to provide the cannabinoids our body needs. However, given that in most of the world cannabis is illegal and only available via the black market, many users suffer mentally, socially, and physically due to the fact that the cannabinoids their body needs are not being supplied. There is also the increasing threat of synthetic cannabinoids and returned which are linked to psychosis.
Cannabis is an interesting drug, with legalization there is greater control yes, but the fact that our cb1 receptors are damaged is still a scary thought. Likewise, high THC strains and concentrates are especially dangerous for us all as it is not natural for the plant to grow in such a manner and heavy high THC use has been linked to physical changes in the brain such as a decrease in grey matter, and changes in the shape of the hypothalamus.
I still use cannabis, but I often feel like a guinea pig for the already established marijuana corporations funded by pharmaceutical companies. The fact of the matter is, we all are smoking, dabbing, vaping, etc. GMO weed unless you're lucky enough to have obtained landrace strains.
I have had some once, an Ecuadorian sativa. It wasn't overwhelming and was, by far the best cannabis I've ever used. Not once did I feel like I needed to use more after the effects kicked in.

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>>687634345
pretty much this..

It's been 5 days since I quit vaping weed everyday for the last 2 years.. One way to deal with this is to use melatonin as a sleeping aid and staying away from coffee.

>>687646259
Terpenes* not returned sorry mates

>>687646259
We got a scientist over here

>>687636234
Nope - becoming physically dependent on a drug (to the point where you experience symptoms of withdrawal without it) counts as a form of addiction.

>>687646259
Can you link/cite the article or study you got this from I want to show it to a friend

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Only thing which I am addicted to are dank memes

OP HERE
Aside from the obvious faggotry from shit posters and ignorant fucks, I read some very intelligent responses regarding this topic. I just came back thinking the thread was pruned and see some more responses, nothing of a substantial nature. I appreciate the well put replies and the continued discussion. I have determined that perhaps my view is hard to convey, which is obviously my fault. Perhaps the term "addiction" is such a misused word that I discovered my own use of the word is completely incorrect. Yes, my bad on that. My conclusion is this, the overwhelming response from actual smokers was that of "I'm not an addict" and I now accept this to be true. Addict is the incorrect word, and I will try to shape my thoughts on this in the future. My feelings are still pretty solid that although it is not an "addiction", users who claim they can "quit" presents the problem in itself. If you can do something for years and "quit" that is great but the fact you must "quit" is a problem in itself. Again.. maybe not exactly addiction... but perhaps still a "problem". Just like everything else I suppose. And to end this, I love smoking weed, but I am disappointed that I sometimes feel I can't do "as well" without it.

>>687633747
You are just a huge faggot
Thats the main problem i see here
Kill yourself

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>>687636110
you should stop breathing then, faggot

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>>687636110
some people can live sleeping 4 hours a day.. you are an addicted fucktard if you do more than that ammount!

>>687646532
Not being able to eat
Not being able to sleep
Feelings of anger, depression I.e. general mood swings
I could go on, but the point is that these are physical symptoms of cannabis withdrawal
I am not saying this is what everyone experiences
Nor am I saying each person that experiences any number of these symptoms experiences it in the same way
However the potential is there and it does occur. I will post links in a bit.
I've been studying this shit for the past nine months, I love weed too, but let's not act like new information doesn't exist fam

>>687644279
literally the only actually funny post here.

>>687641524

you can quit pot anytime you want if you arent a gigantic faggot.

source: smoked for ~8-10 years everyday, quit for 2 years now.

>>687633747
>Marijuana is addictive
No, it isn't. I smoked pot twice last year. If it were addictive, why am I not a fuckin junky by now?

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OP HERE AGAIN, Just wanted to quantify the shitposting /b/ cancer. These responses had nothing of value from useless individuals, the next post will be my favorites for a screencap. This thread is dead otherwise.

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>>687647851
>creates a thread on /b/
>gets pissed off because people don't agree with his POV
>starts calling everyone that has an opinion a shitposter

you sure are a cancer.. maybe cannabis would help m8

Hey everyone given that many scholarly articles require subscription which I am able to access, but I understand that many of you aren't, which stinks, I know, I'll be posting some articles whose abstracts are available.
Synthetic THC: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=68450DD865B1D8BFF581A2C0FA4DCA8C.journals?fromPage=online&aid=6161668
Hippocampus: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0376871610003364
Neurobiology of marijuana abuse: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/016561479290064D
Simple Google scholar searches will yield a plethora of results I hope someone on here gets something from this

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Going cold turkey isn't hard, but why would I want to stop doing something I enjoy, something that relieves my pain, and makes me happy, just to prove to someone that I can?
>hurr durr scientific studies that have been peer reviewed by other scientists who spend their career studying a field are wrong, but I'm right!!
Kill yourself

>>687633747
Physical addiction and psychological addiction are not the same. Weed is psychologically addictive like video games. It is not physically addictive like cocaine. The addiction to weed is a matter of your own Psyche, not the weed

>>687647237
I am agreeing with you. Reread my post.

>>687633908
I've had physical withdrawal from oxcodone and also smoke weed. The physical comedown from something physically addictive is 100% nothing like the comedown from weed.

>>687648215
Shitposting meaning literally no actual opninion, did you even read or just respond? Not once did I get mad at anyone's actual opinion. I see I might have included maybe one post on accident with an actual response.

>Anon thinks he made a point
>literally did not make a point

Good job! Maybe you should lay off the weed, you might actually post some thoughtful content, instead of literally adding to shitpost.

>>687648924
Oh my bad /b/rother!

>>687633747
stoners are degenerate filth an should be shot by LEA

>>687648772
this
plus eating a cold turkey doesn't taste nice

I smoked for some months daily, then vaped daily for some odd number of months more. It kind of became a habit and I developed a pretty high tolerance.

I quit smoking completely when my cat died in April because I didn't want to be smoking to feel normal or to cover up any kind of pain. Haven't had a hit since then.

By now my tolerance is probably pretty low which will be great since I'm going up to Washington this month, but I'm still not sure if I'll smoke / vape while I'm up there or not.

>>687648678
Posts with some decent content, as with previous post, this is for a decent screencap for reference. Might use this for a research paper. Shit posters were useless as usual. >>687648215
Obviously you have no idea what is going on, I'll add you to the shitposters list.. Not once did I "get pissed" at any actual content. Lurk more

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>>687649066
what is even the point of this thread then, faggot?

I thought we all agreed it's psychologically addictive, I can attest to such

>>687649195
Oh yeah, the easiest way to quit for me was to just not have any weed present. I have a thing where if it's there, I'll smoke it, but if it's not there I don't feel enough of a need to go out and get any to actually cause me to go off and acquire it.

>>687649252
You literally have no idea what is going on do you? Shitpost-people responding with literally no opnion, e.g "OP is a faggot" or "obvious bait is obvious"... yes this is shitposting, which was the exact point. YOU sir are shitposting, providing no actual topic of discussion.

>ignorant AF
>too ignorant to actually read
>useless shitposter

otherwise, good luck continuing to be a ignoramus, I got my screencap of useful posts. IM OUT!

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>>687648215
>anon doesn't actually read post
>defends shit posters
>claims I got mad at "opinions"

did you see an opinion?

>>687648622
Thanks for the content, added to screen caps for reference!!

>>687641645
We get the society we deserve.

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Thanks Anons that provided decent responses!

Fuck off useless faggots that provided the usual spam - but hey, what would the world be like without you?

OP out (for real this time)

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pot deforms babies

>>687650214
You know I've actually had several pregnant mothers tell me that their smoking pot was good for their unborn babies?
Fucking tards

>>687649300
This was me until I discovered mail order.

>>687650214
Wait If I smoke weed the girls I fuck will have kids that probably wont survive past like 1yo. SWEET no condoms or getting clips... plus high as fuk!