Thats Tommy Wiseau isn't it?

>>687336599
is that your gf? she's cute, does she have a sister?

>>687336599
also, yes.
>>687337167
I mean, probably.

>>687337167
oh hai mark

yes

source: i am one of them

>>687336599
I am a feminist.

>>687337635
>>687337620
How do you guys feel at being cucks?

>>687337904
I am not one, but I dont care if other people are. You obviously think its a negative thing, shows weakness or something silly to you.

You don't have to be a bulldyke to be a feminist. You just have to want equal treatment for men and women. You're kind of a dick if you don't want that.

>>687337904
it's pretty good,

Women are the social, political, and economic equals of men, so yes, I am a feminist.

>>687338353
This.

>>687337620
Based on the assumption that you're not trolling, how do you reconcile your beliefs with the nonstop shit you get for them? As in, how does it feel to be a member of one of the most hated movements on the internetz?

I followed teh feminisms in high school, and I was done with it by 11th grade. What ideological justification do you give for remaining a part of the movement even though it's seen as total shit?

>>687338353
Pretty much, but people just constantly stereotype.

Feminism definition: the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

>>687338683
I don't let men who hate women redefine feminism as women who hate men.

>>687338811
OOOO well said

>>687338683
currently doing my masters at u of t. can tell you that as a civil rights movement, its greatly respected. in my previous university, feminism was lauded by the entire philosophy faculty, and also embraced by pretty much every other arts faculty that had an appropriate avenue through which they could support it. the only people that dont see feminism as simply being men = women are those who've allowed the deluded to pervert their conception of its essence. tl;dr, grow up homie

>>687339033
Credit to John Marcotte

>>687338704
The definition of communism ;a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.

Funny how definitions can give a skewed perspective on some things huh?

>>687336599
...your ideology is tommy wiseau?

>>687339383
Remember- he did not hit her.

Lots of cucks are here today.

If you want real equality, they would be egalitarian or humanist, none of that misandry bullshit.

tumblr is that way --------->

>>687339376
This.

Obviously feminist will fight you.

But we all know the dictionary definition for feminism is already wrong.

>>687339376
funny how you could say that about any definition...
You are just trying to attach the negative perception of communism to feminism. Seems pretty unrelated.

>>687338683
>how does it feel to be a member of one of the most hated movements on the internetz?

I don't really let a bunch of racist, misogynistic teenagers sway my opinions. And it's just really hated on the children's side of the internet, like 4chan and reddit and shit.

>What ideological justification do you give for remaining a part of the movement even though it's seen as total shit?

What ideological justification? It's an ideology I subscribe to.
What justification? I think it is a clear cut moral question whether women should be equal to men.

Now many will say that they think women should be equal to men, even those who call themselves anti-feminists.
What separates feminism from these types of thinking, is that feminism acknowledges the structural societal grounds in which in-equality exists. For the most part, feminism acknowledges the intersection of social issues.
This critique of society makes people uncomfortable, so if you're a middle-class white male teenager who spends most of their time on the computer in his parent's house, it's easier to bitch about "durr crazy man hating feminazis" than it is to pick up a book.

>>687336599
He just keep melting

>>687340145
how do you know that the definition is wrong? I hold that definition as my viewpoint on what feminism is and I am a self proclaimed feminist.

>>687340283
you mean egalitarian, feminism is misandry bullshit that you, as a cuck, keeps eating it. Cute.

>>687340713
>feminism is misandry bullshit
how? prove it?

>>687339958
Real talk

>>687340283
>I think it is a clear cut moral question whether women should be equal to men.

how do you deal with the cognitive dissonance that comes from the fact that you say things like this yet support a movement that, in its modern form, supports female supremacy and female-beneficial double standards rather than egalitarianism and equal consequences?

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>>687339958
no if you dont like /b/ leave

>>687340220
Third wave feminism is nothing but communism. >Everybody should be equally miserable
>Fuck you if you stand out or if your pretty

>>687339958
Feminism benefits both male and female.

>>687336599
The holy number of 4:20 shall never be mocked

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>>687340713
Keep telling yourself that. Maybe the "dyke lesbian man-hating" feminists will come to you in the night and take your penis away. Long live the matriarchy.

>>687336599
i call myself a feminist cos i think women should be able to do whatever they want in the same way as men, but tumblr has twisted the meaning of the word so much that people always act like feminism is man hate and that just isnt what its supposed to be

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>>687341212
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>687341180
this is simply incorrect. So you think feminists dont want pretty people and want everyone the same. You are simply delusional on what feminists believe.

>>687341075
>in its modern form, supports female supremacy

Damn, I must really hate myself to support someone to oppress me. I guess it's plain ol' cognitive dissonance.

Men who are feminists are feminists for the same reason that one douchebag always brought his acoustic guitar to parties in high school:
To get laid. That's as deep as it is.

Crush that pussy, brah.

>>687340283
Alright, so why does holding the belief of gender equality have to be called feminism? Equality is not just for women, so issues regarding gender should not be exclusively "feminist".

>>687341829
Well you know, having a decent moral outlook and not being a psychotic piece of shit to people really helped my social game.

#feminismgotmelaid

>>687341829
Or maybe they gave a shit about a woman some time in their life. Or they're able to put themselves in other's shoes. Or they would like to reap the benefits of feminism as well.

some good shit here keep it comin'

>>687341829
I'm sure there are plenty of gay male feminists out there. Also in my experience male feminists have been far more likely to be cuckold fetishists as well, but I think both male feminism and cuckolds are a symptom of cripplingly low self esteem in the first place.

>>687341959
Semantics. It's the word for it.
The fight for equality in gendered issues came with feminism, and continues with feminism.

>>687341829
I am a feminist because I think women and men should be treated equally in a society. I value equality and I think that feminism is a way to get closer to that.

>>687341588
Yes, there is a reason why feminists are pushing the gender-politics. And hating on anything that can be seen as individual productivity. Feminist don't create, they whine and hate until they ruin everything they touch

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Anyone else hate feminism, but love to be dominated?

>>687341723
and that's why you are literally a cuck

>>687342362
>STOP TRYING TO MAKE VIDEO GAMES UP TO DATE RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>687338353
>>687338557
>>687338704
REDDIT LEAVE

>>687342027
Yeah, but you have to bang purple haired, hairy armed, free bleeding idiots.

>>687342637
I found that in the real world, real people like it when you're #woke

>>687342229
Then be an egalitarian for fucks sake. Don't subscribe to a bullshit 3rd wave mutation of what was once an honourable movement.

>>687342362
I dont see this happening at all. I see bad posts from teenage girls on tumblr or twitter as antifemists view of feminists. Its not the best place to get intelligent interpretation. I suggest the JSTOR for scholarly papers on actual feminism.

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>>687336599
Cancer shit thread of the day. congratulations OP

>>687338811
But you let women who hate men define it. Neat.

>>687342637
Women are equal to men?
My old lady didn't think so when I was kicking her ass all over the kitchen for burning dinner last night.

>>687342539
no if you dont like /b/ leave

>>687342229
>and thats why i follow an ideology that is called after one gender

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>>687342362
>I know nothing about feminist activism on a local scale

>>687342743
so you would consider yourself a feminist under the dictionary definition?

the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

>>687342821
You seem to have missed that these manhating misandrist have taken a forward part of several countries politics. All under the name of feminism

>>687338353
>>687338557
>>687338704

>I'm a beta who gets cucked on a daily basis

>>687340940
The wage gap myth for one, it doesn't take into account that men CHOOSE more dangerous, and therefore more highly paying jobs. Women have been given the same opportunities but have mostly refused. Want the statistics to be equal? Do the same things then.

>>687342829
gon' feel real good to wear that badge to kindergarten

>>687336599
Hi doggy

>>687342524
>anita cunt detected

Yeah i thought the idea of a feminist being forced to create anything would trigger one of you fatties.

>>687341212
The feminism where I'm allowed to hit a woman as hard as I am a man does. The current feminism seeks to further polarize and separate us.

>>687343287
NO don't even ask

>>687342178
>It's the word for it.
You don't think a label is important?

The label for the group has come to mean a certain thing in today's culture, and you can't just call yourself a feminist and go "oh but I mean this kind, not that widely accepted negative label that everyone uses and thinks of when the term is mentioned today"

Kind of the same way words like "nigger" or "nip" are taboo despite literally just being a rough translation of the color black and a shortening of the native name for a country. Context is important.

>>687342741
I find that my outward masculinity and general disdain for women allows me to fuck feminist guys' girlfriends. Routinely.
Women love a real man. Try it if you can. You'll feel better about everything when you restore natural order to things.

>>687343125
>i know everything about the world from reddit and tumblr

>>687342941
thats nitpicking so hard. Its named after the gender that was greatly discriminated against.(especially when it first started) It has carried on its name since that time.

>>687343144
Not a feminist. I believe in total equality, under a meritocratic system, so no gender quotas etc.
But I believe that a woman should have just as much of a chance as a man, provided she tries just as hard.

>>687342894
Ah, well in that case, I see your point of view.
Weak men shouldn't necessarily get to vote, because you are theoretically stronger.

>>687342835
I don't let that happen, either.

>>687342637
Most women I know who are involved with feminist activism tend to use menstrual cups.
Bleached tampons and pads are horrible for your body and the environment.

>>687342393
Strange then that all the redheaded manhaters ive ever met all loved to be called whore and be treated as degrading as possible in bed.

>>687343391
I'M FED UP WITH THIS WORLD

>>687343557
>why are people so mad about communism when all those workers and farmers where treated so badly under the Tsar

-Stalin 1935

>>687343575
The only people who should be allowed to vote are men who own property.

>>687343575
Don't you lie to me, you do way more then let it happen. You actively participate in it, all humans are people and human reproduction is good you god damn sjw ultra cuck/fatty dyejob bitch

>>687340283
It's hard for people to take a movement seriously when it's represented by people in support of double standards. Or people who think you can be raped by being looked at. Women in third world countries are real issues while feminists in developed nations are trying to out victim each other. Also, before you go ahead and tell me that they aren't real feminists, they will tell me that YOU aren't a real feminist. All of you claim to be a real feminists. How can you expect people not to be against your movement when you are represented by crazy fuckers?

>>687343652
And now I miss my ex.

THANKS FEMINISM >:C

>>687343171
Yes, because we should never stop and think about which professions are valued higher than others and for what underlying reasons.
Not all higher paying jobs are dangerous, or pizza boys would be paid at least a minimum wage.

>>687343331
You are not allowed to hit a man.

>>687343466
Keep typing about yourself.

>>687343567
Currently, she does not.

>>687343156
yes I dont see this happening to any large scale. Some feminists do not understand its core concepts, but this is true of any large movement. These outliers cannot be taken as the whole. Also provide evidence that feminist leaders are promoting man hate

>>687343170
haha no substance to your argument

>>687344087
I believe that she does. Under the law, in my country, there are absolute discrimination laws put in place. If a woman can present a compelling case that she was gender discriminated against, then whoever committed the crime, (interviewer, boss etc) would be fired stat.

>>687343656
DO YEW UNDERSTAND LEIF????

>>687338353
but men and women aren't equal. there are very distinct biological differences that predispose the overwhelming majority of people to different behaviors.

individuals all learn, grow, excel (or fail) at different rates.

while I do believe that the same opportunities should be presented to any capable individual regardless of race, gender, etc., and that no one should be discriminated against for being less capable (nor should they be elevated to equal footing with their superiors by the same metric), I don't believe in some sort of magical inherent equality.

>>687343652
Currently fucking a feminist social worker. Not a redhead but she loves being roughed up and demeaned during sex. Last month, she asked my to punch her in the face while my cock was inside her. It's become an every time thing. Knocked her out cold three times. Each time she woke up to my dick in her ass. No lube. Just spit.
And she keeps texting.

>>687344493
Oh, shit, everything's fixed now!
I should have known!

>>687343171
when taking account for women taking time off work or choosing less hours does change the statistics. There is still a pay gap closer to 90 cents on the dollar. So the numbers can change depending on what you want to consider. So the 75 percent number is overblown, but that doesnt mean the gap doesnt exist.

I find this a huge problem in the media. They do not provide context for their statistics and this is relating to almost any kind of news story.

>>687338704
>>687338353
>>687338557
>>687339137

What political, social, or economic rights do men have that women don't?

>>687344100
Yeah, the nazis weren't so bad, just to bad that people like Hitler came to lead the movement and ruin it for all those nice nazis who only wanted social equality.

When feminists start taking care of the shit spewing from its own cesspool i might start to take it for not a hate movement.

>>687344087
That's why the wage gaps only a dollar you retard. Because it's JUST the dangerous jobs. Simple fix.

>>687344087
I'ts way more illegal to hit a female, even in self defense but feminism has no problem with that? Equality eh?

>>687343567
what dont you agree with about the definition? Or do you just not want to be labeled one?

>>687344579
>I don't believe in some sort of magical inherent equality.
I disagree with this. But if there really isn't an inherent equality, then I believe it's certainly a noble cause for the human race to strive toward.

ITT: Elaborate troll, baiting summerfags

>>687344579
You're going to make the Harpies shriek, they can't be exposed to fact or logic.

>>687343817
I was justifying why the name is used now. You are not understanding my point.

>>687344663
Why would you post a snide, sarcastic response instead of a genuine refutation? This is why it is impossible to argue with these people, they are unable to accept facts. I don't know why I bother trying to have genuine discourse with them.

>>687345074
Exactly, they're self defeating and don't understand why things keep getting worse for them. So they chimp out harder and make it worse for themselves yet again. Because being equal to a man is an insult to a feminist, the true goal is godhood with a caste of male slaves with no rights and no genitals.

>>687344854
Of course I don't want to be labeled a feminist. The movement is totally corrupted by misandrists and idiots (fart rape, eye rape and so forth)
Also, 'social' equality sounds so stupid.

>>687344767
>That's why the wage gaps only a dollar you retard. Because it's JUST the dangerous jobs. Simple fix.
No, it is not just dangerous jobs.


>I'ts way more illegal to hit a female, even in self defense but feminism has no problem with that? Equality eh?
Yes, they do.

If you need to use force to protect yourself, you use the amount required to defuse the situation.
If a hungry skeleton kicks your shin, you do not beat his skull to bits.
If you're younger brother starts hitting you, you can stop him, but you do not cave in his chest.

>>687344872
I hope you mean equality of opportunity.

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Here's my litmus test.
"I'm so glad you are a feminist - you must be as thrilled as I am that girls will now be forced to register for selective service (USA) just like I am. Finally some equality in the military". Judge by the reaction.

Feminist propaganda actually developed my hatred towards women so they kinda fucked up somewhere, dont you think?

>>687345341
Bitches don't even why having our legs spread is completely essential. They don't care that our biology is different and that we have our organs on the outside and have natural instincts to regulate our sack and not kill our sperm producing cells.

>>687345035
You dont understand that a word that is so clearly focused as an ideology on one gender never can be attributed to both.

But basic logic never seem to be in high demand in feminist circles.

>>687345344
Then why is it that most feminists are doing the exact opposite of that? You're just lying and making stuff up at this point.

>>687345074
Because you are mistaken. It is not the most dangerous jobs.
You did not address any of my points.

>>687345345
No, I do not.
Left 'in a bubble' I do not think a man is any more evil than a woman is, or that a woman is any less capable than a man.

If you believe that feminists think that the average woman is as physically strong as the average male, or that the average female doesn't have wider hips than the average male, that's fucking retarded.

>>687344703
women make about 90 cents on the dollar for men, for the same work for the same amount of time. That means same job positions with the same amount of time dedicated to the job. Women are often thought of as weak, indecisive, emotional, and many other things that would suggest they are incapable of withstanding things like men can. Politically you can look at the number of women in public office. They get elected much less often and do not have as much representation in the government.
:
EVIDENCE:
http://www.aauw.org/files/2015/02/The-Simple-Truth_Spring-2015.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

>>687345344
See
>>687345357

That's equality, still want it?

>>687337635
>>687345357
Lol

>>687345713
They do believe that and they are fucking retarded. You are in the vast minority saying stuff like that.

>>687345713
We were never talking about danger?

>>687344739
the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.
This is my view and I am a feminist.
How do you disagree with my stance?

>>687345357
I would tell you that I do not believe in the draft for either sex.

>>687345745
>Same amount of work time

LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE BUB

>>687345341
so you agree with me, but just dont want to be called a feminist.

>>687344663
You're right, men get harsher prison sentences, have higher suicide rates, higher work death rates, rarely get custody of their children, die younger, do worse in school, are the minority on college campuses... I'm sure there are things I've missed.

The difference is, for a lot of these (besides the bullshit custody stuff and school performance) people recognize it is a result of choices. Feminists don't want women to be responsible for their own choices, often at the expense of men.

>>687344872
we'll reach a biologically-integrated technological singularity long before any kind of cultural or evolutionary equality either way, so it's not really worth fussing over.

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>mfw people say yes in this thread

>>687345958
Equality means 1 = 1. not 2 = 1. feminists seek nothing less then total dominance.

>>687345975
Mental gymnastics here, see the Harpy at it's finest, such agility and aversion and screeching.

>>687345511
Is a name of an ideology 100% sure to shape it?
This is an assumption in your argument.
I dont think this is true. I think the definition of the word is more important that that it includes the word feminine.

>>687337588
i did not hurt hur

>>687345907
No.
The majority of feminists do not think men and women are physically identical.

>>687345750
I've answered you here >>687345975

>>687345927
>We were never talking about danger?
>>687343171
> it doesn't take into account that men CHOOSE more dangerous, and therefore more highly paying jobs
Danger was mentioned originally.
If you hopped into the conversation later, that's on you.

>>687346058
I agree with equality of the sexes, naturally as an egalitarian I am obligated to do so. Feminism however is not in my opinion a movement dedicated to just this, it seems, more and more, and excuse for women to push men down.

>>687345995
you are only critiquing my wording not ideas.

>>687345958
And what of those doesnt women have?

Why feminazis are called feminazis are because they are using typical socialist logic. Where they dot want equal opportunity, they demand equal outcome.

>>687346278
I dont see feminists seeking total dominance. Support your stance with evidence

>>687346346
Then you think like a moron.

>>687346402
So lets through out the names and agree on equality for all genders. It seems like people are taking sides for no reason.

>>687346387
No, two different conversations. You posted replying to 4 people, one of whom was me, talking about equal opportunity, one talking about dangerous jobs.

>>687346058
Actually, I feel the same way. I despise that the feminist movement is riddled with an enormous effort to be a huge victim. Not to mention that feminists are often associated with the fat acceptance movement, which is in its own league of cancer.

>>687346552
New to the internet?

>>687346474
my other post about this
>>687345745

>>687346673
Wholeheartedly agree to that.

>>687346346
>why do people keep thinking my ideology is about what its named

>>687346432
No, I'm saying that's blatant misinformation. You fucking sjw kikes and your propaganda take shit too far when pretending to not see the obvious.

>>687346387
Say that to the cunts that are against leg spreading and the cunts that got the firefighter physical strength requirements lowered.

>>687346611
You are not challenging any of my points. Just mindlessly disagreeing.

>>687346278
The draft is bullshit, what would you prefer I say?

>>687346146
These are also concerns of feminism.
The same systems that hurt women can hurt men as well.

Gender roles and expectations can cause great stress to men when they don't add up.
Feminists do not believe that men should be expected to be the sole breadwinner or sole head of household.

>>687346809
Yes i see the direct lies you posted. If women where paid less than men for the same work. Why is there men at all at the workplace?

Or is it that you fail to realize still, that men and women take different life choices?

>>687346941
I would prefer you to say "The draft is bullshit now that women are allowed in the military" and not have you spew random rhetoric.

Honestly women already have equal rights. "But the women's wage gap", that shit is made up. Studies show that men are more likely to ask for raises and promotions and more likely to work over-time. Feminism is useless now.

>>687346058
I forgot to mention that I believe in the equal opportunity and rights of all people. Not just the genders. Feminism is not encompassing enough of a movement.

>>687347172
This, so much this.

>>687346742
I have been in feminist groups at my university and participated in feminist marches and I do not see the large problems that you say there are in the feminist community. I think its a radical few that give a lot of people a bad name. Tumblr examples constantly spread online perpetuate this.

>>687347172
The jobs that are valued highly now, and the jobs that are not valued highly now, do you agree with them being so?
What reasons do you think may be behind those jobs being so highly paid?

Are there any jobs you would see paid more?
Why?

Are there any jobs you would see paid less?
Why?

>>687346552
>Mansplaining, manspreading, check your privilege, more pay even tho they already get paid equal, free birth control, free tampons.... etc etc etc

>>687347256
If that were true then do you admit modern feminism is a hate group? (when it comes to 1st world countries)

>>687346402
I could not have put it better myself.

>>687346939
Yes, you are so stupid that you think people wont judge an ideology after what it is named

Or that the ones who gets drawn to that ideology reads into that ideology after what it is named.

That is why you are a blithering moron.

>>687346763
looking at antifemininst posts on /b/ from tumblr.

Met an actual feminist in real life and got to know them?

>>687341829
whats funny is they are then called rapists and locked away maby they should have thought for 2 seconds not to fuck that dirty feminist peice of shit and what they were doing to society

>>687347184
No. The draft was always bullshit from day one.

>>687347250
For what reasons do you think men ask for raises more? For what reasons do you think those negotiations are accepted?
The same traits in men and women are not seen as such.

>>687347476
I've met plenty of feminists, they can be cool, but eventually they all break down to fat, angry, and bossy. No one gets to tell me what to do, you can't tell a junkyard dog what to do, and it's not a bad thing for me to yell at these bitches just as harshly as I would anyone else

lmao i can 100% guarantee that everyone who is not a feminist falls into at least one of these categories:
>Under 18
>Still in some form of education
>Single
>Never had sex
>No female friends

you can deny this, but in your heart you know this to be true

>>687345745
How are either of these things a violation of rights?

Wages are determined by a private contract between an employer and an employee, if women can prove that they are being discriminated against, they can bring forward a lawsuit.

As for politics, women make up half of the population and are a pretty catered to interest group. Why don't they vote exclusively for women? Oh, probably because the majority of people don't vote for someone based on their genitals. Isn't having your political views represented way more important than having your genitals represented?

So I skimmed the pay gap PDF and don't see what specifically you are citing and what controls are in place, can you point them out?

Ultimately you are looking at the outcome of behaviors of general populations and trying to extrapolate proof of discrimination out of it. You are advocating for equality of outcome. Society needs equality of opportunity, not outcome.

>>687345745
>a 7 percent difference in the earnings of male and female college graduates one year after graduation was still unexplained.

until you delve a little deeper and find out that men more aggressively ask for raises and higher pay because they far more often shoulder the financial burden of supporting 30%+ of the female population who DON'T EVEN FUCKING WORK AT ALL WHATSOEVER.

This is probably my biggest gripe about women and the workforce. A third of you still prefer to stay at home and raise children, and the other 2/3rds have these bizarro expectations of being able to earn just as much or more as men, yet still think you're entitled to a man who's even more successful than you are.

Female wage equality and hypergamy are mutually exclusive, and you need to give up one or the other. Which is it going to be?

>Women_in_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives

I'm not sure what this is supposed to be evidence of.

>>687346877
it is about bringing women up to equal standing with men. Previously women had very little rights compared to men. If men were persecuted then the movement to liberate them would be named after them.

>>687336599
yeee dog I am, I'm a feminist, a vegan, and I'm a cis man.

I just have a really long fuse and nothing really bothers me (being half white and a straight guy I don't have much to be bothered by anyway)

Also I've been using this board for like 9-10 years now, I like it here

>>687347696
Oh shit you're right! I'm still in college. You future cat ladies are damned to the suffering you are trying to create for others.

>>687346916
how is it misinformed? How am i wrong? Explain it and provide evidence.

>>687347642
You would equate yourself to a junkyard dog?

>>687347804
>cis man
Let me stop you right there cucky cheese

>>687347354
MEN work in more dangerous jobs
WOMEN choose safe and less paying jobs
MEN work more hours
WOMEN work less hours, are sick more often, and take out more vacations.
MEN work in private sector
MEN have children less
MEN take less time out for their children because women ALWAYS gets the kids in a divorce, among other things.
MEN educates themselves in areas that pay, technical and proper science subjects
WOMEN educates themselves in social "sciences" and other shit subjects. If you want to make money, dont take gender studies.

YOU FUCKING DUMB SHIT

>>687347371
Imma out myself as a cucklord, but ain't nothin' wrong with free birth control. Turning birth control into a luxury is just downright absurd, and if she don't want da babbies, she's free to use whatever contraceptive methods she wants. Same with guys and condoms etc. Both genders should be allowed autonomy over their sexual habits.

>>687347875
"same amount of work time" right there, women take more days off and generally don't like to work weekends on average compared to men.

>>687347882
That I do, shit gets me in trouble

>>687347696
>feminists
Nothing but the judgmental, bullying bitches they where in highschool

>>687347696
>so not trapped into a degenerative, doomed relatiionship with an opportunistic harpy
seems fine to me, i'm happy with one night stands.

>>687348036
While I am NOT a SJW or feminist, the prefix cis is etymologically correct. "cis-" means "on this side" whereas "trans-" means on the other side. It's just not a very common prefix, the most popular usage is in the term "cisalpine."

>>687347746
Feminism would alleviate you from that role, as I've said.
If you wanted to be a stay at home dad, that'd be cool. And if neither you or the mother wanted to, childcare at work, or out of work, would be easier to access.

>>687348130
oh right, men are actually oppressed, thanks man

get a job you kissless virgin

>>687347172
>Why is there men at all at the workplace?
this doenst make sense. Men and women who do the same exact job for the same exact amount of time should receive about the same amount of pay. This does not happen, read my evidence cited.

THIS IS NOT INTENTIONAL FROM THE EMPLOYER!
Virtually no boss sets out saying im going to pay women less.
This inequality exists and should be corrected.

If those feminist cunts really wanted equality they would be helping to end male genital mutilation but they don't they hinder progress because they are nothing but misandrist pieces of shit

>>687347787
You do realize for the majority of human existence everyone's lives were shit. Most men haven't been able vote much longer than women. In fact a lot of women didn't want to be able to vote because they didn't want to sign up for the draft. Instead they got it for free and have been bitching about not having it in the first place without considering why they didn't, ever since.

>>687347787
So why still call it something that its not anymore?

You honestly think women are persecuted in western society?

>>687348310
This
>>687348372
that dudes pretty trans

>>687336599

I'm a feminist. Though many of my beliefs are not the same as a traditional feminists. For example, I think the causes of the wage gap stem from how we socialize women, not discrimination from employers.

>>687348424
Yes, and we don't bitch about it. It's the burden of having a society.

>>687348195
Eh, it's not the worst of their positions by any means. But just look at the Supreme Court Hobby Lobby case, and the backlash. Having property rights over your own company and having a moral stance against Plan B is now a WAR ON WIMMINZ

>>687348424
You think its oppression to have a choice in what life you want to live?

And you wonder why your hateful ideology is compared to communism?

>>687348425
That's not true in America
>>687348463
this

>>687348130
Please answer my questions.

>>687348195
Agreed

>>687348251
They're also culturally responsible for being with the children at home.

>>687348425
There is no "inequality" your just lieing through your teeth he told you exactly why your wrong and your only response is "but it does exist listen to me (bables out nonsense and lies)"

>>687347642
How are they cool and fat, angry, and bossy? Why do you think all feminists are fat? From what ive seen its just as fat as another group. Seems like your hating the stereotype of the movement.

>>687348591
I like this post and hate feminists

>>687348591
But its not as if a group of old white men got together and said, "THIS is how we are going to socialize women!" It is a by-product of centuries of societal development, and women in the West are free to do whatever they damn well please. I don't see an issue.

>>687348737
So are single dads you twat

>>687348405

You do realize there are general desires among the sexes to do different shit, right? Obviously they aren't true down to every individual, but you can look at trends, you can study children and apes, and you can find those same trends. We aren't "socialized" into these trends, they are genetic because of an evolutionary feedback loop caused by our sexual dimorphism as a species, it really isn't very difficult to understand.

Men like to build/do shit.
Women like to nurture/communicate.

>>687336599
Eric Foreman really went down hill

>>687348808
I've never met a skinny female that hates me for being me.

>>687348967
what single dads??? feminists have made it so that the man no matter how much more qualified will not get the children they always go to the mom no matter what i have seen fucking crack whore mothers and average business man fathers or mechanics but no the mother still gets them

>>687348676
Plan B is not an abortion pill, it just prevents the pregnancy from taking, so what possible stance could you have against it that is not a war against women and their autonomy?

>>687348737
Please learn to use common sense

I will slap any cunt that gets in my face. We are not created equally

We need feminist for more meme material so yes I AM A FEMINIST dont reply to me thats reply rape

>>687349399
Junkyard doge's in the house!

>>687349075
>anita sarkeesian
>'''toxic masculinity''

>>687349401
Oh shit im sorry

>>687348130

>WOMEN educates themselves in social "sciences" and other shit subjects. If you want to make money, dont take gender studies.

The salary for an economist is on par with a computer engineer. Economics is a social science. A significant number of detectives and criminal investigators have sociology and criminology degrees, both of which are social sciences. There are a plethora of jobs in public policy, which naturally lends itself to political science.

Just because you did not take the steps to make your degree marketable (internships, activities, publishing, etc.), doesn't mean your degree is shit. It means you were a shitty student who picked a less rigorous field and didn't pick up the slack on your own time. I know a fuckton of social science majors who are doing quite well.

>>687348737
No your question is quite idiotic and is a disgusting form of forcing yourself to avoid facts.

SO if you want a question answered, say it in a form that isnt the most idiotic, because now, it makes no sense.

>>687349455
You know nothing you stupid cunt. Now get back to the kitchen and find a dick to stuff your stupid mouth with and shut the fuck up.

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Just gonna drop this here

>>687349540
There's a hell of a lot of Maths and statistics in economics.

>>687349540
Forgive my grasp of the english language.

What i was trying to say was WOMEN ARE SHIT AT STUDYING THINGS THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR WANTS. Feminist dance therapy is not a marketable educational choice.

Clear enough for you?

>>687349267
A religious one, obviously. And it was a decision concerning employers and their employees, the employees get paid, they can buy their own contraception. Nothing is preventing their autonomy. It's not rocket science.

>>687348195
Nah man, free birth control is a great thing. It enables people who want to be responsible about their sex lives the ability to do so. But where are my free condoms? Oh only women get their birth control for free? Gotcha. Thanks equality.

>>687349841
Thank you anon

>>687349461
Havn't met her, she'd probably dig me.

>>687347715
>>687347746
>>687348251
>>687348477


Its not about rights, its about striving for equality. Should employers pay there workers as little as they can? I dont think so. They should pay for their work. The evidence shows an existing pay gap has a 12 percent unexplained difference.


Sorry i am just struggling to keep up with all the responses.

>>687348485
Women do have less opportunities still then men, Iv already argued this read back through the threat.

>>687348732
Yes it is true in America.

>>687348788
ive already argued this read back if you want to question specific points i made.

>>687349075
Ive never met a fat one that hated me for being me

>>687349794
Bitch I was trying to give you props for having a winning attitude but you go and be a faggot like this? Unacceptable, and I retract my sentiment.

>>687348405
except that's not how females have developed over hundreds of thousands of years. you can't just throw away countless generations of culture, evolution, biological instinct and sexual evolution and try to slap a small feminist band-aid over the gaping, oozing, festering chasm it leaves in the core of society and try to pretend that any significant portion of women would ever truly be comfortable with reversed gender roles.

it's extremely hard for me to take modern feminism seriously when all of their arguments boil down to wanting to have their cake and eat it too.

>>687349841
Great some more mental illness that is allowed thanks to pedophiles moonlighting as progressive gender studies majors

>>687350016
Holy fucking shit. The definition for feminism that feminists love to cite all the time is exactly about rights. If there are no examples you can point to, there is no reason for feminism to still be a movement. How do you not get this?

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>>687336599
dont talk shit. i like to dress up as yakko (my 3rd fav warner)
not everybody thinks that its cool, but i finally met a girl who thinks im a 10/10 would bang like bam in my yakko suit.
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.

once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?


this was the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOOb3wPNMAg

>>687350170
>not embracing da boi pussy

>>687350100
Well you're probably a fat woman then. I grew up in a pretty "liberal and diverse" place. I got so much hatred, so much bullying from red faced angry fat bitches.

>>687350016
What opportunities are those? What places are they held back?

>>687349865

There can be a helluva lot of math in political science, too. Anybody who majors in poli-sci should minor in math or statistics, because that's quite literally what every graduate school and employer wants (sans the State Department and Intelligence Community--there isn't much quant work there). The individual decisions of students in political science programs leads to their unemployment, not the field of study itself.

Fact of the matter: Universities water down their base requirements for political science so stupid people can get a degree. But anyone majoring in poli-sci can easily find a job if they complement their studies with computer science, math, and other highly-valued skillsets sought after by financial/political risk firms.

>>687350016
>pay gap
see>>687348130

>>687347715
I agree that equality of opportunity is the ultimate goal.
Some women do not want a woman running the government, but i think it comes a lot down to the party apparatus generally being a boys club. Thats why there are so many more women in local government.
You cant control societal studies, because you cant find a society without bias in it. So you can just look at out comes.

Im the same guy just wanted to go into it more with you

>>687348195
I don't believe in free birth control. Sex isn't a necessity, and birth control isn't expensive to begin with. On the flip side of this coin of course is the fact that impoverished human trash who can't afford birth control are the very people who need it most, but that's another argument.

What I do believe in is free or heavily subsidized feminine hygiene products. That shit isn't a choice, and it's bonkers that we tax those or treat them as luxury items.

>>687350298
>not realizing you are mentally ill for thinking a boy can be a woman

>>687350325
No im just an average guy. Haha i think you may have had a unique personal experience.

>>687350016
>look back at my shit sources that doesnt touch the subject.

>>687350758
With equal job position, with equal time dedication, women still make 12% less.

>>687350986
I demand free toilet paper!!!!11!

>>687351036
Don't believe you

>>687351138
critic my source, you are not pointing out any flaws in it.

>>687348463
Fucking this. I have never heard of feminists about the routine infant circumcision of males, but goddamn everybody flips fucking shit when they hear of any form (of equivalent severity or not) of female circumcision. It is a massive double standard that is applicable to every day life, especially in the US, and it's never talked about. But hey, my society is misogynist. So misogynist that it will ignore the mutilation of male genitals in favor of a females.

>>687351366
hmmm well thats on you

>>687351252
Sure they do boyo. Its not that that is illegal or anything like that... Oh no...

I had to sit through a degrading manditory rape class to enter my college and get my opinions skewered and ignored because im a FUKIN WHITE MAAAALE. why cant you cucks realise what your doing. Anyway feminism is dying off the its only staying alive by starting outrageous stunts a on teh internet to gain attention.

>>687351447
That's something a fat woman would say

>>687350284
yeah man ikikik the feeling. back when i was in hs at the nadir of my femishitfest, I used to wanna fuck a guy who unironically owned two dakis and was building a synth machine. It was hot. I'd stand outside his window erri night and hold a sign saying one thing:

"Feminism is about equality"

>>687351379
Then flaunt your sources then faggot, i really cant be bothered scrolling.

>>687351408
haha thats because people generally think it is okay in the US. Its a problem in the whole society, not in feminism.

>>687351682
LOL FUCKING K
>Feminism is perfect all the time, u jus sexis if u disgree

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>>687348463
>If those feminist cunts really wanted equality

Implying feminists don't want equality.

>>687351475
its illegal for a boss to intentionally give less pay to a person based on gender. That is very hard to prove why someone is payed what they are and even harder to prove the motivations of a specific person.

This pay gap should not be there, so as a society we should work to have more equal working conditions.

>>687351002
Maybe your right actually I dont know anymore to be honest

>>687336599
Define feminismus.
I'm pro equal rights. Equal pay for equal work. Basically, pro seconds wave feminismus.

>>687351556
youre just spouting nonsense.

>>687351606
if you cant bother to scroll back im not going to bother to restate the sources. If you dont care just check out.

>>687351785
no feminism has many flaws, but the flaws of the society as a whole will be present within most of its subgroups. So its not a feminism problem its a problem with the whole society including feminism.

>>687352039
>implying

They disregard anyone who isnt a feminist on the matter.

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I'm a feminist. What's up OP?

I even believe some of the crazy shit like that society is designed to oppress women.

>>687351408
thats what i said though the only time they talk about it is when they say it doesn't matter or that you are some how justifying female genital mutilation by talking about mgm they are disgusting lieing assholes and nothing more

>>687351290
If you had to pay twice as much on top of your existing cost for toilet paper, you'd probably want it to be subsidized instead of being taxed as a luxury item as well.

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>>687352733

And yet they're winning.