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Ok /b/ let's discuss religion. Note that I am not a part of either of these two religions. Islam vs. Christianity. So it has been a recent debate that Islam is or isn't a religion of peace due to the fact that the Koran says multiple things about putting people to death. Funny enough, Christians are saying it isn't of peace yet their bible says to put homosexuals to death. What are your thoughts /b/? I think it's a little hypocritical Christians are calling out this religion primarily because of extremists in the group. I mean, let's be honest here, if all muslims believed that those who do not follow allah should be put to death, surely we would be seeing a lot more terrorism, no? The point is, both christians and muslims cherry pick what they choose to follow and don't, and that's fine. I personally don't agree with it because how can you say you follow the religion if you don't follow it's tenants, but alas: religion is bullshit anyways.
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>>687141343
you want to debate religions or books?
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>>687142449
Kind of, read the fucking post.
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Tl; dr nigger.
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>>687141343
How many Christians behead gays though? If it says it in the bible then millions of Christians are not following the religion correctly. Yes?
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Had a wank over a deaf down syndrome girl a few times in high school.
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>>687141343
>>687141343
>>687141343
kiss
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Both are monotheistic religions (one god) and those are the worst kind.

Throughout history it has always been the monotheistic religions that slaughter people just because they don't follow your religious belief. That is not to say other religious groups have not gone to war but they have not gone to war because your sky wizards are diffretn then our sky wizards.
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By not putting to death those who should be put to death by the book, you are by definition not following the religion in its entirety.
Both are a cancer on the planet and anyone stupid enough to believe in either should be forcibly reeducated through whatever means necessary in a state effort to break their faith and restore their sanity. Kill those who cannot be converted to sense in whatever way is cheapest and fastest.
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bump for long explination
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>>687141343
In Christianity, the Bible is very fluid. The old testement is considered to be the "Old Jewish side of things" and not really taken seriously. Meanwhile, the New Testament is seperated into 2 parts: the canonical and the non-canonical gospels. The Council of Jerusalem in 300AD got a bunch of christian leaders together to pick which gospels would be part of the new testemant. Many non-canonicals were chosen along with 4 canonicals.. Matt, Mark, Luke, and John.
The non-canonicals were more like opionion letters or editorials and different bible versions publish different sets. Such as corinthians or romans. According to the original concept of what makes you a christian, all that matters is that you follow the 4 canonicals... and those are basically just detached 3rd person accounts of Jesus. Nothing Jesus says in those is violent or hateful, in fact, it's all about acceptance and love which is contradicted in some of the editorials.

This contradiction, however, has a priority level to it. If there is a contradiction in a non-canonical to something Jesus said.. then what Jesus said is what's correct, not the non-canonical.


>meanwhile in Islam

The Quran is a jumble of quotebooks, biographies, and testaments supposedly about Muhammad, who was a 6th century guru-turned political leader trying to combat the sectarian violence caused by all the nomadic tribes vs growing abrahamic beliefs in the arabian penensula. He was all for religious interaction and peace... creating systems were christains, jews, and his own followers could live in peace and fight against the nomadic paganism which had kind of caused some problems in the region. After some drama, he ran out the jews in one of his towns cuz they did something stupid during an invasion or something. That was about the worst historical thing he had with Jews.
The problem with the interpretation......
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>Islam vs Christianity
>You say Islam isn't a religion of peace but the bible says this
>What's the difference?

The difference is is that most christians aren't running around stoning gays, while Muslims do. There's your difference.
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>>687141343
I am thinking you are the one cherrypicking here. The bible is much clearer against the subject of murder than the quran is. You are cherrypicking negative things about christianity to make it look like Islam. Everyone here knows which one of the two is much more violent.
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Humans corrupted the Torah and the Bible so God sent the Quran to set the record straight. It has many of the same stories as the the old and new testaments. We believe all Prophets were Muslim, but the name Islam came from Abrahama, which means submit to will of God.
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>>687141343
>>>687141343
>I am thinking you are the one cherrypicking here. The bible is much clearer against the subject of murder than the quran is. You are cherrypicking negative things about christianity to make it look like Islam. Everyone here knows which one of the two is much more violent.

Don't confuse violence with justice. Islam is about peace more than any other teachings, as the previous two teachings were corrupted by man (corrupt Jews)
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>>687144739
is there really was no set prioritization in teaching, and the heirs to the religion disagreed on shit and instead of acting like civilized people and going to pretty city with a roman leader to have a big lavish convention (I screwed up above.. it was the council of Nicaea, not Jerusalem), they fought and schicsmed. There was no consensus and everything in that stupid book is can be interpreted differently by different people.
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>>687144739
Your interpretation of the bible. Do you know how many sects of Christianity disagree with one another on what should be taken seriously/literally.

>>687144832
>>687145061
>Crusades never happened.
>Christianity is a religion of peace.

>>687145308
>Islam is about peace more than any other teachings
top kek
Ever heard of Buddhism?
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>>687145308
If you quote me at least have the decency of giving me a you. You think that the first two books are corrupted, I do not think that way. All atheists/Hindu's/Jews (the one you believe are so corrupt)/Buddhists can all see that Christianity is much better at spreading peace. The only reason you are unable to see that is because you need to twist your idea of peace, violence and righteousness in order to make it seem 'good'.
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>>687143617
What about vikings?
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>>687145750

Buddhists are commiting genocide against Muslims today. Toppest of keks
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>>687145750
You are right, they do bicker about it from time to time, but it's only about the side things, not the core of what does or doesn't make you a christian. Even though fat people from kansas throw big words around, they know what is important to them, and they know that the accounts of Jesus are the most important thing, so they are unlikely to commit violence or be hateful. The universal hierarchy is canonicals above non-canonicals. If someone starts being dumb in their fight over non-canonicals, they are usually kept at bay by the actual threat of being unchristian.

Those stages are not present in islam.
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>>687146019
>>687146158
teachings =/= practices
Nice try though.
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>>687145750

>crusades

Almost 1000 years ago, thank you for proving my point.
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>>687144832
Christianity in the western world, and islam, have both degraded, and become weird warped images, distorted by western ideology, feminism, or any other political or sub cultured attitudes being integrated into religion, thus what we see in the west is only going to ever be a small part of the real picture.
chritianity exists pretty damn strongly in some african and asian tribes, and when theyre following the book properly, it is alot like what you are considering muslim extremism. in short, any religion could be peaceful or violent, its dependent upon the community and individual to decide that, a person learning islam from the quran, without any outside input, could turn out to be a decent person, with some of the more respectable morals like being charitable, healthy and trying to gain knowledge, whilst a person finding islam through an already corrupt community leader, or finding islam with some sort of ill intent will follow and adapt the more negatively perceived parts of the religion, such as those mentioned throughout the thread, and on the news, and all of the media...
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>>687141343
>>>687146019
>>>687146158
>teachings =/= practices
>Nice try though.

Same can be said about any religion.
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>>687146158
It's more political than anything.
Any and all religions will have rouge groups that deviate from their belief in yeild of other issues.
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>>687146322
>Almost 1000 years ago
>That's history, it doesn't count.
Moron.
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>>687146334
>distorted by feminism
Granted feminism is now a cesspit of SJW bullshit. It has not caused all of the worlds problems throughout history.
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You fucking wannabe theologians are pretty good at taking other people's word as truth for shit. Don't know about Islam, but the whole "Jesus wants to kill faggots" argument is about as ignorant as it gets when it comes to religion.
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>>687142449
The book is what made the religion
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>>687146224
>not the core of what does or doesn't make you a christian.
Oh yes they do. My guess is you've been exposed to a limited amount of similar sects of Christianity. Take a look at how many Christians think Catholics aren't Christian.
>Those stages are not present in islam.
I'll take what are Sunnis & Shiites for 500, Alex.
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>>687145882
They wanted land and fresh pussy. What else?
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>>687141343
Actually the bible says to kill homosexuals in the old testament. But the new doesn't say anything bad about them and the new is supposed to replace the old.
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>>687141343
lets talk bout how the muslim monkeys in africa are basically comitting genocide on the christian monkeys!?
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I really don´t think religion is a motive for committing atrocities, it is however an argument for committing atrocities. Religions divide people into groups, in Syria both shia and sunni are arabs but they see themselves as shia or sunni. In the former Yugoslavia there were ethnic groups fighting. Shia and sunni are two groups fighting over power, not over who should have succeded Mohammed in the 7th century.
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>>687141343
had a customer the other day with an I heart jesus hat. her husband paid and told me that jesus loves me. so i said hasalama leiku.
obviously im not muslim based on that spelling lol.
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>>687141343
Both books are wrong in many aspects.

Difference is there are way less violent Christians than Muslims.
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>>687147819
Really? I read a lot of verses in the New testament that still say that homosexuals are evil and will go to hell. I'd quote them but I don't have a bible with me, also on my phone so I can't copy and paste the quotes either. Even in the New testament they believe that homosexuals should be put to death because it's an abomination to them.
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Religion evolves with time. Muslims are fucked up because, compared to christianism, it's quite new. Christians back in the day were pretty crazy but they stopped caring about the ridiculous laws.

Most of its followers are poor as shit so religion is the only thing that gives some sort of meaning to their lives, this explains why they willingly give up their lives for their religion and why it's so easy for religious leaders to control them.

Muslim leaders are indeed delusional and do plan on taking over the world, it's clear. Just like the pope intended to do with the Americas.
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>>687141343
>Ok /b/ let's discuss religion. Note that I am not a part of either of these two religions. Islam vs. Christianity. So it has been a recent debate that Islam is or isn't a religion of peace due to the fact that the Koran says multiple things about putting people to death. Funny enough, Christians are saying it isn't of peace yet their bible says to put homosexuals to death. What are your thoughts /b/? I think it's a little hypocritical Christians are calling out this religion primarily because of extremists in the group. I mean, let's be honest here, if all muslims believed that those who do not follow allah should be put to death, surely we would be seeing a lot more terrorism, no? The point is, both christians and muslims cherry pick what they choose to follow and don't, and that's fine. I personally don't agree with it because how can you say you follow the religion if you don't follow it's tenants, but alas: religion is bullshit anyways.

The only chick on /b/?
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>>687147603
You are failling to grasp the simple fact of importance and priority.

Why don't Christians bomb eachother like Sunnis bomb Shiites?

>maybe it's because debatable facts are considered secondary to the standard.
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>>687143617
What kind of basement dweller theory is that shit? That is some fucking bullshit and not true...

just as this guy said >>687145882 - What about the Vikings?
What about the Indians?
I could keep going. Fuck off virgin
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>>687146577
>Crusades against Muslim raiders
ftfy. People seem to think the Crusades were just Christian men in chainmail killing innocent villiagers
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Islam= Violent
Muslims=90% peaceful

Christianity=Violent
Christians= 99% peaceful

(the majority of the 10% violent Muslims are in the third world. There are very few in the west.)
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>>687147603
But all Christians would agree that being a CHRISTian is following Christ's word over all else. So the schisms between Christians aren't whether or not the other Christian groups follow Christ but how you worship God. Like if you need to confess or be baptized or take an oath or whatever.
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Christianity has its flaws too, but Mohammed killed thousands of people in the name of Islam. Jesus never killed anybody. Big difference.
Seriously, try naming one horrible thing ISIS does that Mohammed didn't do himself. Massacring non-believers, stoning adulterers, killing gays, he did it all. They're emulating him.
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>>687144219
OP here, I agree.
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>>687144739
I dont need to hear specifically about the bullshit of Christianity and Islam. The fact remains that a tenant of christianity is to put homosexuals to death and is thus not a religion of peace.
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There are no wars over religion.
Wars are fought over power and religion is an easy way to bond with other groups and countries.
The wars in Iraq and Syria aren´t about what the koran says, its about politics.
The regime in Syria is secular but it doesn´t give sunni any power.
The reason for the Syrian civil war isn´t that the sunni think the shia have the wrong beliefs it is about power.
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>>687143215
Probably a billion
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>>687145061
See >>687146334
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>>687148854
Yea remember the Viking holy war?

No? probably because they raped and pillaged not because the other people had a different religious view than then but because it was easy to get free shit that way.
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>>687148465
What?
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OP HERE. I can see this thread blew up after I posted it one time already.... Anyways, all of you retards saying christians don't cherry pick are fucking liars. None of you follow the true religion, the religion that you think God will let you ascend to heaven because of it. You niggers talk about faith yet you aren't even following the right things. I think I should be next hitler and convince everyone to come to my "holy churches" but in reality I gas the whole place.
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>>687149987
>Crusades
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>>687141343
Asatru + polytheism + all original religions before the meddle east inferior inbreed people > middle east jew sandnigger religions
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>>687144739
Winrar, you are stumbling upon something very true here, something lots of humans fail to see
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>>687151778
Crusades were a response to muhammeds invading their lands you fuck
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FUCK OFF INFIDELS
PEACE CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED BY ELIMINATING THE VIOLENT
PRAISE ALLAH!
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>>687149987
Bombing two countries with flags that look similar
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone


Old law was overturned/fulfilled by Christ, which is why Christians dont kill the fags/disabled/whores whatever. In fact the Church used to keep fags safe from the murderous crowds in countries like Ireland by taking them into the clergy. If you wanna compare Judaism and Islam you might find more grounds for your argument.

Jesus was a kind man, merciful, wise, and selfless. Mohammed raped his 6 year old wife.
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>>687152645
You can't rape a 6 year old wife. She is legally married to you and not old enough to be an independent so its literally your choice if she consents to having sex with you or not.
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im kind of confused about how christianity came about as a religion, i mean, if the old testament was the original, arent jews the only real christians? seeing as alot of christianity is now evolved to fit comfortably with the modern world (eg; pope says gays are cool now), and that kind of destroys the "authenticity" of the religion, if you will. its hard to take it seriously when so called holy rules are changed for convenience. and the most spiritual celebration of the year attracts more people to shopping centers than to churches. i have nothing against christians, loads of them are nice, normal people, but christianity seems too vaguely followed, and is kind of just made up to suit peoples own tastes, which is fine, follow your own creed, but it shouldnt be done so in the name of another religion.
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>>687150306
>i dont need to hear about why my argument is flawed

>i found a verse checkmate christians what you gunna do xd

Hurr durr
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>>687152645
The laws and morals of the time were different. I'm not condoning the practice any more than I condone the ownership of slaves by early American figureheads. I'm merely stating that our perspectives and standards are significantly different.
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>>687153136
Muzzies actually believe this
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Polytheism from the true white man > Monotheism, from the inbreed ugly inferior people of the desert
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>>687153869
This
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>>687153233
Christians = followers of christ

How can Jews be the original christians if there was no christ

Jews actively believe that jesus isnt the son of God, else they would be christians
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>>687153300
Well man, I'm personally agnostic but I don't need to know the specific tenants of a religion to argue it. Does that make sense to you, monkey?
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>>687153836
Your response isnt really relevant to me but like allgood
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>>687153233
Jesus was a jew. Christians are followers of Jesus and rely on him for their salvation
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Fixed oppic.
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>>687153975
No, the point here is that youre not reading the bits that refute your argument. The point is the verses referring to the putting to death of sinners were already overturned by Christ in the New Testament. If you wanna call out a religion being as violent as islam, call out judaism. The argument does not stand against christianity
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>>687153233
>arent jews the only real christians

No. They believe in the same god but worship him differently. That's why there are like 200 offshoots of Christianity because its impossible to tell what the right way to worship god is.

There are even multiple beliefs in Judaism but they are much less talked about

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_schisms
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>>687154272
I see what you did there
*tips fedora*
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>>687154272
SMALLER, MAKE THEM SMALLER
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I think what is really the issue is that Islam is now the most oppressive, hateful, and negative religion that exists in the world. At one time it was Christianity now its Islam. So the focus is on Islam. When Christians start throwing faggots off buildings I'll jump on the anti-Christianity bandwagon. Till then fuck Islam and its ideology.
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>>687154988
Jecked XD
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>>687153927
Hercules likes you. The true religions, where cience advanced, the people from Egypt, the amazing greeks, even the indians with their math and great constructions, the strong barbarian adventurers from the northern Europe. All religions wich people had freedom, time, religions that actually stimulated wisdom and rationality, with Odin changing his eye for wisdom, amongst other gods, from other cultures.

But all ended with the irrational passionate monotheism from the desert people. All cultures and religions were smashed by the monotheism, it was created the state, the government, and the freedom and magic was then taken away...

The middle east people shall pay for this, the juden will pay for the destruction they have done. We, the free people, the fighters of harmony and peace shall slain this plage from its roots
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>>687154988
>Odin strike my enemies down with your mighty battle axe

NO ODIN USED A SPEAR THIS IS WRONG REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>687155312
I will join you, brother. The time will come eventually for all to return to greatness.
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>>687155312
>religions that stimulated science and wisdom

>not christianity

Literally kill yourself. Most of major inventions and discoveries were done by Christians. Sir Isaac Newton, Galileo, even though he was persecuted, Marie Curie, the fucking PRIEST who came up with the Big Bang theory.

Culture again, prospered under Christianity. The Renaissance. The Enlightenment. Medieval Europe had so much shit going and most of the learned people were monks
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islam is going through its teenage years. throwing tantrums, getting pissed over trivial shit and generally gaining weight but it will eventually pass.
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>>687154272
*tips fedora*
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>>687156012
I cant wait till Islam just thinks everything is lame and doesn't want to do anything because nobody understands him
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>>687156012
Islam has been like this almost since its conception. Some much death has been at the hands of a few dirty muslims with knives, but it was mostly between them and other arabs so no one cared. This isnt new and its not gunna change
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>>687154439
But it does. The book and the religion have always been against homosexuals and various other things. Keep denying.
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>>687141343
Personally, I'm reading the Koran and I will nearly read the Bible (I'm french and I don't know the name of the Christianist book but in French this is the bible )
I don't believe in any of this two religions but I think the peoples doesn't make the differences between Terrorism and Islam. Before to read the Koran (which really contain passages claiming the death of some kind of peoples ) I wasn't sharing the same opinion that today. When we read the Koran, we read some hard passages, but it's really different of terrorism, who just bring other ideas. Those ideas aren't in the Koran, and it's hard to think it when you didn't red the Koran but what I'm saying is confirmable..
I can't give my opinions on the "bible" (not sure again ) that I don't know enough.. Have a nice debate!
Sorry for all the languages mistakes, I'm only 15 years old
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Alahuakbar
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>>687155965
These future christians you talk about, "inspired" themselves on the greek scientists. The renaissance was all a copy of what greeks have made/discovered. When christians(the european man corrupted by the monotheism) decided to left religion aside for science
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>>687144739
Muhammed is only mentioned 13 times or so in the Quran.

Youre statement is false. Quran states that the best of Humans is Abraham because he left his village to practice being a monotheist.
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>>687141343

Christianity has gone through reformations. Islam has not.
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>>687141343
Religion was a concept made by man back in the day to explain the unknown, now that most of said stuff IS explained people still hold on to there beliefs due to family or they just cant handle the cold world by themselves so they rely on a higher power. I don't understand it, but I'm a firm believer in "live and let live"
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christianity: the old testament in the bible says: "an eye for an eye, a life for a life"

islam: the qu'ran says that those who commit adultery, murder or go against Islam should be put to death. Allah also sentenced people to death

on the other hand, one of the 10 commandments in the Bible is to do the most loving thing- this outweighs sentencing someone to death

in the qu'ran, Allah taught to forgive, which outweighs sentencing people to death

this discussion is basically discussing how long a piece of string is. answer: it will go on for a mile without one straightforward answer.
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There can't be polytheistic religions
God comprehends in Himself the whole perfection of being. If then many gods existed, they would necessarily differ from each other. Something therefore would belong to one which did not belong to another. And if this were a privation, one of them would not be absolutely perfect; but if a perfection, one of them would be without it. So it is impossible for many gods to exist.
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>>687156637
Nope, only 4 times.
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Actual muslim here, I have never ever been taught that islam is "the religion of peace", like ever.
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>>687157421
Tell that to most of the religions throughout history
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>>687157827
That's what the evil white cis Christian males want you to think! We know Islam is a religion of peace! Stop saying these things. We need to unite to destroy white Europe and America!
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>>687157421
God= higher power
Therefore, we could say aliens that exist on dimensions higher than us are gods. You have the wrong interpretation of the meaning god.
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>>687158256
No no, we aren't evil or want to kill people, we just are not taught that we are "the religion of peace".
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>>687158380
I know your religion better than you. I am going to import your people en masse to improve Europe and hopefully America too! We love diversity! Won't you come over and breed with our people to make one happy race of people?
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>>687156590
The Renaissance didnt just happen. The term implies that everyone just lept out of a dark period into the classics-appreciating, pseudo Greek life. Thats nit true, so mu h development was going in the medieval times, from standardisation of letters to medicine to the printing press, its just that in the renaissance epople started to write everything down and literacy became a thing, so people appreciated the great greek plays. It was high art at the time, not what your average joe lived by
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>>687158657
I am coming over in a few months but don't worry, I would never actually marry a western woman.
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>>687148586
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#Contemporary

>>687148919
>Killing X in the name of religion is not the same thing as killing in the name of religion.

>>687149175
>But all Christians would agree
No they wouldn't, because no group completely agrees on shit.

>being a CHRISTian is following Christ's word over all else
Again, no. I've seen churches claim officially that Catholics/other sects worship the devil. I've seen churches argue over what parts of the New Testament (including things Jesus says) are accurate. The LDS Church has "Jesus Christ" in it's name, but thinks Jesus was an alien.
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>>687157460
Aaah well I maybe counted messenger too, but yeah messenger can refer to all messengers.
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>>687146158
fake and gay

http://zuhaybshah.blogspot.com/2012/07/fake-pictures-of-muslims-being-killed.html
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>>687143215
Some Christian parts of Africa do
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>>687157421
Polytheism is not about explaining the origins of the universe, thats because its a nonsense... Polytheism just makes beliefs, gives magic to life, teach man lessons and sooths his doubt over death. It personificates metaphysical vallues and shows the way.

In skandinavia if you didnt wanted to give a shit about the gods you could, there would be no persecution or punishment for that
>>687158792
The bases of the Renaissance were waaay more important, and all made by freedom and polytheists. You are saying how it was, but not how it could have been. What if the greeks, indians, the old polytheistic arabs with their alchemists n shit, the norsk; were left alone in peace to create? But there is just a big gap from technology and inventions since the monotheism ruled the world. So be aware you fucking kike, i am going to get you and impale you for the spread of lies, you are going to pay for what you are doing
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>>687158973
>Killing x in the name of religion

Do you understand what inspired the first Crusade? Do you know where the term "jihad" was first used? The Crusades were an effort to retake the holy city (Jerusalem) after it was raided, pillaged, and subsequently occupied by muslim raiders.

It's easy to chalk it up to "being in X's name", but taking a city which is absolute paramount to your religion when it was overtaken by people who actually -were- just "killing in X's name", and are actively killing and enslaving your people, is kind of a moot point. One dumb fuck claims "in god's name" and suddenly, everyone thinks the crusades were wholesale slaughters.
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>>687151235
Have you even fucking read about the vikings?

> "muhhh I have seen vikings i know everything about them!

kys
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>>687160263
>an effort to retake the holy city
>taking a city which is absolute paramount to your religion
>One dumb fuck claims "in god's name"
Pope Urban II

Try harder faggot.
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the bible never said to put them to death just that they should be punished. at the time people got their fucking hands cut of for stealing. put two and two together.
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>>687160351
Have you?

Vikings literally had no problem with the existence of other gods. They even accepted the christian god existed just because some missionaries said he did.
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>>687160118
No, you filthy pagan, there wasnt a gap left by monotheism. Monotheism took over the Roman Empire, but it was already on its way out by the time Christianity took any real hold on the Roman Empire. Rome was sacked by German pagans, not monotheists. Afghanistan, another big bastion of knowledge, was sacked and burnt to the ground by Mongolian pagans, not monotheists. Yes Im explaining how things were,but the key difference between at least north European pagans and the Christians was the monks. The monks were learned, and since they were provided for by the church and had fuck all to do besides contemplate scripture and sing chants or whatever, much research and study was carried out by them. Now, ye bearded bastard, I hate the kikes as much as anyone else, but Jesu Cristi is a much better thing for the world than mohammed or the euro pagans

The greeks were doing well and were smart but lost cuz they were too busy fucking each other. At least in Catholicism the kid fucking population is the minority
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>>687161412
Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
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>>687161018
>One dumb fuck
>Provides one dumb fuck
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>687161713
>Implying the pope didn't speak in an official capacity.
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>>687161018
>using a populist pope's speech as evidence of intentions
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>>687161950
>using mental gymnastics to pretend like you haven't already contradicted yourself
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>>687161897
>Implying Pope's can't be dumb fucks
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>>687161711
And then Jesus said, not referring to Sodomy mind but he said let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

I have come not to overthrow the old law, but to fulfill it

The old bloody laws were done away with when Big J came into the picture
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>>687162192
>I have come not to overthrow the old law
>old bloody laws were done away with
Pick one.
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>>687162084
Hitler used his speeches to convey the idea that he was a christian, and he wasnt, as shown by confessions of close officers, diary entries, etc. But no, a speech to get people riled up is the ultimate authority

Kike
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>>687162364
>but to fulfill it

Are you blind

He is saying that the sacrifices and rites of the old law were fulfilled by jesus
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Either way, both religions are shit and God hates religion anyways. Religion is made by man to shove shame so religious leaders can get power from you.

>I hate, I despise your religious festivals; your assemblies are a stench to me. Amos 5:21
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>>687162084
>Arguing with the wrong poster
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>>687163002
I see no flaw
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>>687162829
How do you know god hates religion?
>Religion.
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>>687161648
The christians sacked the whole Europe for passion over their religion, what "pagans"(its offensive, sorry) did was just for "fun", we are humans after all, testosterone based apes, and again, you are seeing just how it was, not how it could have been... Politheists wouldnt have killed each other, and the wars were not moved by religion, but interests; the twats who maded wars over religion was the monotheists
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>>687163143

The bible isn't a religion you fucking retard
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>>687163434
>The thing that was created by religion isn't religion
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>>687163337
>wars in polytheism werent motivated by relgion

>wars in monotheism were

What

Youre making statements not backing yourself up

If youre trying to say polytheists never had a war, look at the Egyptians, Athenians, Spartans, Persians, Babylonians, you are a jew and you are wrong

What european christian sacked europe you are stupid

And even if it were true, european christians created the most technogolically advanced and socially advanced society we have ever seen
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>>687163673

It's like saying a fanbase of a movie made that movie.

You are obviously fucking retarded
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>>687163849
Riddle me this dipshit. Where would Christianity be without the bible?
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>>687163818
Christians(the juden) imposed their religion over europe, isnt this a sack? Everything would be fine, the people were happy, BUT THE JUDEN FROM THE DESERT RUINED EVERYTHING

OUR VALLUES ARE RULED BY THE JUDEN, WERE MADED UP, MOLDED, 2016 YEARS AGO
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>>687164212

You just made my fucking point you retard. Christianity came after the old testament was written. Not before. My god, go get educated.
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