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Those pesky facts
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mass shootings also includes gang violence, so the stats are skewed.
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>>687125470
...what?

That's like saying "traffic deaths include drunk driving, so the stats are skewed."
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>>687125634
This
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>>687125307
..impending shitstorm from "muh fakts!!!"..
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>>687125307
try casualty rates instead of deaths and see where it gets you
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>>687125307
based anders wrecking the bell curve
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>>687125994
>Self defense
Yeah right, your obese/retard people are fucking idiots that are going to kill all of your country, so stop being a retard and try to smooth your shit hole
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>10 000+ gun murders per year

stay dead americucks, maybe when you fix the nigger problem it will go away
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>>687125994
>>687126134
You nailed it
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>>687125634
yes but the media often using those stats to specificly adress the problem of lone wolf mass shootings, where the shooter is looking to kill as many people as they can. Gang violence is completely different. Gangs target other gangs, and have different motivations for shooting.
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It's the press.
Also, lots of shootings (not involving death) go unreported. Mostly gang shit, so no real waste there.
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>>687125307
I wouldn't even give a fuck if America was first on this list. Nothing of value is actually lost in most mass shootings here.
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>>687126369
well you have a sad life
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>>687126134

> your obese/retard people

your?

Not American.

kek
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>>687126134
When you're mad because your Muslim infected European country is worse than the U.S.
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>>687125307
which just goes to show that mass shooters in america are less effective

europeein master race
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>>687126214

Lone wolf shooting is such a tiny percentage of deaths it's completely negligible except for that fact that you can sensationalize it on the news and get crazy ratings.
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Anders really bumped our statistics up a notch.
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>>687126677
cheeked^2

The quality of mass killers in America is rather poor.
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>>687126820
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>>687126458
I'm not the one getting shot at.
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>>687126748
exactly, thats why you cant group the two. It just muddies the water. Even when talking about gun control relating to mass shootings it would not be an appropriate because only a very small number of guns are used in that.
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>>687125307

Yes, but Norway tops that list based off it's low population, and ONE mass shooting incident

Also that's clearly a fox news graphic you're using. If you're listening to anything fox news said, you're being lied to or manipulated.
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>>687127219

oooh those pesky facts, especially one ones fox news leaves out.
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>>687126131
This
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>>687127067
haha like saying Im not the one getting hit by drunk drivers, so who cares about anyone who died.

Youre so sad.
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>>687127219

If anything it proves Americans are awful shooters, even with all those guns.
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>>687126820

Yeah, they're mostly high school white trash losers or supreme gentlemen immigrant kids.
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>>687127500

It proves that guns are too easy to get in america, even by people that don't know how to shoot them.
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>>687127428
Well most of the people who die in shootings are trash anyway. People of all kinds are more likely to be killed by drunk drivers. But yeah basically, still better them than me.
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>>687127219
china on that is 0/4 because of thier pop or lousy accuracy?
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Planning to boost America's position.
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>>687127640

over a billion people in china. I'm thinking their graph only went down to .01% and their massive population makes their death toll significantly lower than that.
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>>687127621
>buy thing
>get thing
Yeah it's easy to obtain a gun, but I don't see why it should be otherwise.
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>>687127629
Mass shootings are more likely to happen at large public spaces, schools, churches, malls, airports, train stations and the like. The number of drunk drivers increases at night, on weekends, and holidays.

Tell me how you know what kind of people are being killed in these two separate incidences. School is required so everyone has to go there at some point, unless home schooled.
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clearly everyone needs more guns to improve thier mass shooting/kill ratio

norway should only trump the rest of the world in odin worshipping
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>>687127909

I'm thinking there should be a mandatory training lesson for your first gun.

Even if it's just half an hour long, so you don't kill yourself. And if the trainer notices you haven't showered in weeks and talk a lot about contrails and reptilians he can call someone.
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>>687126522
Infected? There are no muslims nowhere to be found except the ones living in camps. Who gives a shit idiot, its not like they stand next to me in walmart like your nigger problem.
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>>687128061

well there's a magic number you can hit, when you kill enough people to bring your countries population down low enough, your kill % will skyrocket exponentially.
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> be american gorilla
> get shot
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>>687125307
Breivik: Raising the Bar
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>>687128239

>uses double negative
>calls someone an idiot
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I'll just leave this here
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>>687128297

I'm pretty sure that conflict proved the kalashnikov was not outdated.
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>>687125307
Jeez, even the Olympics throw out the highest and lowest scores in order to get a better average. lrn2outliers
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>>687128428

In fact the m-16 was rather a stumble in weapon design. Especially for combat in heavy foliage
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>>687127219
*if you're listening to any major news outlet, fox included you're being lied to and manipulated.
But hey let's just pretend it's the "other" guys falling for the media's lies and our favorite channel only speaks the truth
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>>687128479

that's faux news for ya!
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>>687127621

I dont man, lots of guns + lots of incidents = low kill score

seem few people can shoot straight over there, i mean i bet most of then didn't even practised, or if they did, they'd shoot it sideways, gangsta style
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>>687128403
I'd kill myself too if I lived in Russia.
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>>687128297
>>687128428
Yep. I'd rather have old and reliable than modern and jams if you look at it sideways.
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>>687128508

This is true.

But fox is especially transparent and direct with their agenda. WHile other news outlets I think passively misinform in their interest of their sponsors, their parent corporations (who obviously have political interest) Fox is a main line of propaganda straight to the GOP.
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>>687128239
No Muslims nowhere. So there everywhere except in camps? At least your speaking the truth, shame you had to play word games to act like everything's ok
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>>687126131
>based anders wrecking the bell curve

I wondered that the moment I saw it.. shit
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>>687128623
The hell is that bullpup SVD?
i-i want one
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>>687128297
Name a major, modern, army that has successfully fought, repelled, and maintained its 'victory' long term over an insurgency who used guerrilla warfare.

>protip: you can't
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1 murder a day in ny
More in chicago
All nig vs nig crime
Blm doesnt give a shit
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>>687128191
That easily allows for the training lesson to become a backdoor form of control. Saying anyone can have a gun if they can pass a safety training lesson is fine when those safety lessons do not place an undue burden on citizens. There are plenty of places in America where lawmakers would try to make that mandatory training lesson a forty hour course with hour-long classes only open once a week at a specific time, limited class locations, class size restrictions, fees to take the course, fees to take the class, fees to take the test, having to take the entire course in a single go or it autofails, has to be retaken every year, and the retest date is counted from when you took your first class.
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>>687127629
Are you retarded?
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>>687127219
Based China with all it's mass stabbings, but no shooting
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>>687129037
Israel
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>>687127909
Why should buying a gun be as simple as getting a pack of gum?
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>>687127869
>>687127640
China has the highest number of mass stabbings in the world
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>>687129123
Not informed enough to know whether or not China has mass stabbings but gosh dam that gave me a good chuckle
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>>687125307
>crime prevention research center
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>>687128297
>2 million plus dead gooks (backed with soviet tech)
>50,000 dead U.S.

We know how it turned out
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>>687129037
Them dam jews do a good job of it
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>>687129230
Cause there are too many fucking people on the planet as is. Its called population control.
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"Crime Prevention Research Center"

Google it. That's all you need to know.

It's bullshit.
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>>687129230
its not.. don't talk stupid.
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>>687125470

The higher numbers that are sometimes used in the US include 14-year-olds shooting at groups of people with BB guns. Skewed, you say?
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>>687129099

good point.
maybe the nra should regulate it so it doesn't turn into that.
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heck more citizens who can buy guns should buy them then just leave them in the ghettos to help things along
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>>687129037
Sri Lanka over the Tamil Tigers
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>>687127219
Kek
/thread
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>>687129112
Nah, just an asshole.
>>687128018
Children are definitely in the trash category.
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>>687129277

It does https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010%E2%80%9312)
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>>687129389
dat 40:1 kill ratio
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>>687126166
We are fixing the nigger problem... it's called group them up, give them guns and drugs and let them kill eachother off. If a few dumb white people get mixed in that's their fault.
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>>687129584
>people dying from BB guns
you are an idiot
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>>687125634
well to be fair, gang violence does tend to involve several dead victims. as does traffic and dui deaths
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>>687129803
>We are fixing the nigger problem

No one can even publicly admit there is a problem, and that niggers are at the epicenter of the problem.
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>>687129586
The NRA already has extensive programs in place to train firearms instructors and teach gun safety to children.
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>>687129581
It isn't, you are right, but your comment made it seem like you were under the impression that it should be.
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>>687129824
BB guns can kill.
Just not the shitty ones.

Crossman 760 puts ye olde bb out there at 625fps. Mine hits 690fps because it's the older one (brass air chamber, not platikkk)
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>>687129037
Shining Path in Peru
Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka
Moro Islamic Liberation Front in Phillipines
Mau Mau in Kenya
ETA in Spain
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>>687129389

So is it body count that wins a war? or achieving the military's intended goals for being in the war?

Also where did you get those made up numbers from? here's the actual numbers:


Allied military deaths 282,000
NVA/VC military deaths 444,000
Civilian deaths (North and South Vietnam) 587,000
Total deaths 1,313,000

The VC killed a great deal of civilians as well.
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>>687125307
Damn it OP, don't confuse those pesky euros with facts.
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>>687129736
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>>687129757

dat made up casualty numbers.

total deaths on all sides of the conflicted added up to 1.3 million.
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>>687129803

Wow you're bad at math. Niggers spawn much faster than they kill each other.
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>>687130190

RIght, but it's not required. it should be.
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>>687130257

A punch can kill, that's not the point. You're not going to have 125% vats critical damage during a home invasion with your bebe gun
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>>687130549
Not him but only if it's free and done so that it doesn't put a burden on a workers time. Or mandate that they can get off without fear of punishment from their employer like with jury duty. Anything otherwise and you're infringing on the right of self defense for the poor or lower class that can't miss work. Self defense isn't just for the well off. And in this country it is a right.
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>>687127269
Yes like 3million people a year use guns for self defense
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>>687130257
Aren't there some out there that hit 1200 fps?
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>>687125307
>believes muh Fox News
>is gullible Ameritard
>kek
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>>687125307
Photoshop.....

0/10

OP is a faggot
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>there are people itt right now who dont think the U.S has a gun violence problem

Wew lad
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>>687131747
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>>687130413
The US lost 50K, and the numbers of lost vietnamese varies wildly.
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Of the 15,000 murders in the United Sates a year, less than 50 can be attributed to mass shootings involving 4 or more people. By comparison, 500 people die a year from flesh eating bacteria, and 1000 people die a year from bacterial respiratory infections caused by the common cold. Yes, the common cold is way more deadly than mass shootings.

Meanwhile, about 8000 murders are committed by niggers and about 4000 are committed by spics(the FBI records most spics as white, so you have to go by state data and estimate).

New Hampshire is one of the whitest states in the U.S. New Hampshire has some of the least strict gun laws in the U.S. And guess what? It has the lowest murder rate.

Gun don't kill people. Niggers/Spics/Sand Niggers kill people.
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>>687125307
*per million people

"Oh, 300 people were killed yesterday? No big deal, we have plenty more to spare."
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>>687131466
>>believes muh Fox News

Even fox admits that mass shootings represent less than .01% of all gun deaths.

Just because many media outlets brainfuck you with socialist ideology, commentary and avoids all "real speak", doesn't necessarily make it a decent news source.

Just so you know.
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>>687129736
should have killed yourself when you where a kid then.
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>>687131747
Oh we're well aware that the US has a violent nigger and mexican problem. We just don't call it a "gun problem"
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>>687128297
>Glorious Automat Kalashnikova
>outdated
Gr8 b8 Capitalist m8
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>>687131747
>there are people itt right now who dont think the U.S has a gun violence problem

Calling it "gun violence" obfuscates the real issue of minority gang violence
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<---- What American needs. This is exactly why you need to elect Hillary Clinton. Please, show the rest of the world that you aren't complete fuckwits.
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>>687133630
Socialist cuckold detected

I don't know what you're paid to write this, but it's way too much.
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>>687129264

Mass stabbings? Are the people doing them pro athletes or something? Or are Chinese just so stupid they think he'll run out of ammo and stand there watching?
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>>687125307
38 ....
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>>687133630
see
>>687133504

We cannot begin to fix the issues, if we cannot identify them properly.
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>>687133630
Hello Jewish monkey, I would love to take a moment of your time and talk to you about making the world a better place. Please find a fire and die in it right away before anyone has to bear even one more second of your complete stupidity. You are currently bringing down the iq average of humans.
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This has got to be a troll post. Mass shootings make up less than one percent of all gun-related deaths in the United States. God damn people/republicans are fucking stupid.
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>>687133780
civilian firearms are prohibited in china, so instead they have the highest murder rate with knives in the world. It's not that they don't have violent grievances, crazed killers, Islamic extremist, it's that their dictatorship is pretty damned good at keeping firearms out of the hands of good people.
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>>687125307
Wasn't Brevik from Norway?
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>>687133810
>38
this!

Meanwhile there is literally no other country with even more than 3. Fuck you Americans are dumb. Get rid of your guns already. All of those guns just show how uncivilized of a society you are, when the rest of the world is all growing up around you. Even 3rd world countries are safer than the US.
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>>687125307
That is absolutely ridiclous. Norway is literally only there because of one shooting in 2011.
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>>687125634
Those stats are kind of skewed. If you want to talk about gun control, you have to find the source of the shootings and go after them. Lumping them into a general statistic because 'murica is too PC to call out the niggers will lead to bigger government and no solutions.
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>>687134298
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>>687134298
Yes its the only mass shooting in norway in a long time
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>>687134458
Mass shootings make up less than .01% of murder with firearms in the U.S.

Niggers and hispanics that are often overwhelmingly recorded as "white offenders" are the real culprit.
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>>687134337
Lol jeez worry about your own shithole. You just mad that the US can never truly be invaded and occupied unlike your weak country. Got to show id to buy plastic cutlery too.
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>>687127219
Right because Fox News was fired for faking Bush documents...oh, wait that was CBS. Well, they were found to be editing videos of NRA supporters...oh, wait that was Katie Couric. But they were caught editing videos to make conservatives look bad....oh, wait that was CNN.
All you leftards accuse Fox of being biased meanwhile you have no proof unlike me having proof of other stations being biased.
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>>687128623
yo mom is old n reliable when sucking my dick
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>>687134458
Kind of skewed?

They're made up. Just like the Crime Prevention Research Center shown in the graphic.
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>>687130297
actually there are no reliable numbers on vietnams side because a lot of murders were unreportes or the government keeps the actual death rated locked away in an archive. But your nunbers are roughly correct
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>>687134774
The regressive lefties hate fox, because often fox tells the truth. They cannot block it, so they vilify it. And call it's viewers racist or dumb.

It is not that the regressive lefties don't want to hear the truth, they don't want the truth to be told- at all.

It's why they hijack peoples speeches, try and block free speech at every turn.

They are the problem. They're not "part of the problem". They represent the epicenter of all the problems in the U.S.
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>>687134774
Are you trying to imply that fox news isn't biased? If so you are a fucking retard. I don't watch either CNN or Fox, and both are biased. But I will say Fox seems a bit more obvious.
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>>687133363
I never had the balls, sadly.
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>>687135171
>Crime Prevention Research Center is made up

http://crimeresearch.org/about-us/

Stay in denial, it's funny, and allows us to poke fun at you.

Regressive lefties don't attack or argue the information, they simply attack the source, did you ever notice that?
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>>687135339
How can you possibly know? Is it because they do not support the leftists false agendas of racism, islamophobia, feminism?
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>>687135772
Do you even know what it means to be biased? Maybe this is why people consider conservatives retards.
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>>687125307
And some people say one man can't make a difference.
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>>687135339
Maybe it is because they don't feed your liberal regressive digestion system with bullshit that you don't like them.

Maybe it's because they don't obfuscate all real issues and their causes with relativism, that you don't like them.

They're not a "feel good" news source for the worst, loudest, most violent pieces of shit in the US.
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>>687125307

sure, let's believe the "facts" john lott and his friends offer. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/10/28/gun-researcher-john-lott-offers-false-firearm-s/196621
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>>687136000
>Do you even know what it means to be biased? Maybe this is why people consider conservatives retards.


Maybe this is why you cannot trust a regressive leftist. They never have anything worthy to say but insults. They cannot use facts, because they don't know them. They're stupid, violent and well..... regressive. They earned the title.
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>>687136122
Holy shit. Read:>>687136000

Clearly I said I dont watch either. And that they are both biased. Good god learn some reading comprehension.
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>>687128403
But that 3rd chart that says no correlation shows an obvious correlation
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