Wrong, flaccid wieners. Get it right

>>687115269
This isn't lost, I doubt it's going to end with everyone's already dead and nothing matters.

Interesting theory, very much doubt though.

>>687115269
"The past is already written, the ink is dry." - Bloodraven

What Bran did was always going to happen. It's closed loop time travel, with no paradox.

If Bran were to go back in time and kill the mad king, the mad king would be dead in the future, giving Bran no motivation to go and kill him in the first place. Paradox.

>>687115269
He wouldn't be changing history.
>causality loops
He can't change history. These are fixed events. They had already happened. Bran needs to time travel to make sure they happen again
>static character
>decisions don't matter anymore
Time travel is fucking dumb. It is a stupid plot device that is the result of lazy writing.

Now someone grab me some waterskiis so I can jump this shark.

>>687115620

He doesnt kill the mad king ... he makes the mad king mad.

>past is written - ink is dry

Then wtf was Hold the door Hodor about?

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I've hated his stupid fucking tree storyline since it was introduced. Same with the Reeds.
>no more Doran
>no Arianne
>no Quentyn
>no JonCon
>Barristan gone

Still got fucking Bran and his shitty entourage though.

>mfw

>>687115527
Jack Bender directed a few episodes this season...so...your move

Redeemed Hound vs Zombie Mountain Cleganebowl confirmed

>>687115969
It was barely time travel, plus Hodor was already Hodor so someone would have to make him hodor at that moment. Like Bran already being crippled means going back and crippling himself could work, but he couldn't go back and make himself uncrippled.

>>687116164
Ayy lmao

>>687116069
GRRM

>>687115969
That was always going to happen. That was written in the past. That happened to Hodor in the past. The reason why is happened, is because Bran from the future made it happen. That is how the past was written. The ink is dry.

Making the mad king mad would be a fine, closed causality loop, operating under the same principle. I'm just a retard who didn't bother to finish reading the sentence.

>>687116389

But he wasnt Hodor until Bran got in his head by going back in time - which shows that his time travel actually does things.

Also the ice king was able to find out where he was by going back in time... which shows that time is really weird in the GoT universe.

This show/books is/are pretty predictable.

Kept saying Benjen was alive but people kept wanting to argue that he was dead.

Stannis is alive also.

"burn them all" - Aerys
Sounds a lot like how you'd kill the army of the dead...
given how hodor repeated "hold the door" and aerys repeated "burn them all" even after jamie stabbed him, bran's gunna do the same thing to the mad king for sure

>>687116835
Yes but if Hodor wasn't Hodor, then Bran wouldn't have reached Bloodraven / have been alive to do it in the first place. They are two events dependent upon eachother. It's a closed loop, no paradox. Ink remains dry.

>>687115269
Bran didn't make Hodor stroke out- he just witnessed it. I think you guys are mistaking direct influence with possibly a fate plot.

>>687117125
Are you blind? Bran warged into young Hodor (Wylis) and messed him up. It was directly Bran's fault.

>>687117043

Well thats kind of my point about the whole universe. I think its going to turn out to be some loop by Bran tinkering around with his time travel shit.

Then the whole show basically becomes what Bran fucks with at what time.

>meh

>>687116860
why would brienne let him live?
and didnt bolton kinda confirm his death?

>>687117285
Bran did not warg into Hodor in the past.

>>687117582
then why did his eyes go white?

>>687117582
https://youtu.be/jxlmQ_JGbKo?t=2
Yes he did.

Bran called out to young Ned and he heard him, so that right there shows us that he's gonna dabble in time fuckery and not simply observe it

>>687117769
we wont see any changes in history
>ink is dry
we will however see WHAT bran already changed

>>687117769
Or the fact that he realised he's responsible for Hodor's retardation and further demise will teach him a harsh lesson.

>>687117769
Possibilities open up if he can manipulate shit in the past, but I don't think they'll make it to where he saves Ned, Catelyn, Robb, Theon's cock... etc.etc.

Literally everything that's gone wrong in this show is Bran's fault

>>687115984
fuck of martellfag

>>687118373
damn. Theon had a nice dick :/

>>687118373
a spin-off where theon travels through time to save his cock and stop ramsays rise to power
sounds interesting

>>687117683
>>687117679
Many Starks and northerners had the ability to warg. I think that there was a powerful warg in Winterfell before Bran, who is now called the Three Eyed Raven, and he is actually the person who warged into Hodor in the past, but because of his guilt did not want Bran to witness the event.

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>>687118644
Not possible. That would imply that Bloodraven knew years in advance of Bran's birth, in advance of Ned & Catelyn's union that at some point, Hodor (Wylis) would need to hold the door for Bran. Additionally, Bloodraven couldn't have done it to Hodor in the moment, because he was literally just killed.

Alternatively, Bran needed to get Hodor to hold the door, but since he was already warged, he had no alternative but to warg into Past Hodor for the same effect. Which messed him up.

>>687118644
i think the three eyed raven defintiely is responsible for some of the shit that went down in westeros
bran might find out that raven made the mad king mad or caused roberts rebellion because he warged into raegar to fuck lyanna

I still sy that it ends with Danny and John Targaryen-Stark saving the world from the walkers with drgons and then Arya kills Danny.

>>687118644
Brynden Rivers (Bloodraven) wasn't a Northerner. He was a bastard child of Aegon Targeryen and Melissa Blackwood.

Father from Essos, Mother from the Riverlands. Not a northerner.

I feel like the mad king wanted to burn those white walkers but he got mad because of the voices of bran or that other tree hugger

>>687119281
What if the mad king is the three eyed raven

Bran is stronger than the old raven, he is able to influence the past.

Also Bran becomes patch face. Under the sea the dead float, I know ,I know ho ho ho.

>>687115269
This series should be renamed " Crippled guy being fucking useless and young lady not being ready, yet "

>>687119382
why would arya kill daenerys?
i'm all for jon at the moment. should he die (for good) the walkers can kill everyone for all i care.

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they are all living in the matrix

>>687115433
Wiener,wiener,wiener...

>>687119644
I don't think he is stronger, he basically warns him and tries to stop him from doing shit as if he knew what would happen

I'm in fucking tears at the end of every episode, today it was tears of awe.

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I like how there are barely any niggers in the show! And none in high positions!

>>687115527
Nigga did you not pay attention during the series finale? Christian Shepard explicitly tells Jack that what happened happened. The island was real, those people died, and the alternate universe was something they made so they could all pass on together.

Fucking retards like you are the reason that show gets a bad rep.

Anyone have the GOT fap roulette pic?

>>687119793
to me, the old raven says the ink is dry because that is how he perceieves it, not being able to influence events. Bran is able to, so that would make him stronger.

>>687119745
Jimmy Valmer and the Butt-Sullied Maiden Fuck the Whole Thing Up: The Series

>>687119629
Just no

>>687119793
It's very much like Luke & Yoda

>>687119988
so much this
>88's checked

>>687117043
That doesn't make any sense. Wylis was Hodor before Bran fucked his brain up, so you still have an action without a cause.

>>687117529
We're talking about books, show fag

>>687120056
Yeah, but evidently he knew that you could manipulate the past, that's why he kept trying to pull Bran out of situations like with young Ned, saying "Or maybe it was the wind he heard, time to go" like he wasn't ready and needed to learn more before he decides to fuck up more shit

>>687119954
daenerys ending scenes went from awesome to cringy in my opinion
and dont even get me started on the speech
good to see the dragon is growing at least

>>687120292
Wylis would never have became Hodor had Bran not warged into him, whilst already warged.

Bran would not have been given that opportunity had Wylis not become Hodor, and taken Bran to Bloodraven and protected him from the wights and the white walkers.

Both events have a cause, and they cause eachother. It's a closed causality loop.

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>>687120236
I'm not being racist though dude. I have black people in my family tree, they are still hanging around somewhere.

>>687115269
last episode was shit

It could have been possible with Hodor because of how many times Bran had warg'd him already. He knows him well and has a preestablished connection. To go along with that point, the person who is able to hear him in the past is his father.

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Cleganebowl fucking confirmed

>>687120356

i was reffering to this post
>>687116860
>This show/books is/are pretty predictable.

most of the posts are about the show, book nerd

>>687116860
Well since we didn´t see him die, i guess Stannis is still around somewhere

>>687120198
But Luke isn't more powerful than Yoda.

>>687120375
I think perhaps what is more likely, is that the past cannot be changed in any way that would alter the future.

Unless of course, the future is also responsible for the past, where a causality loop with no paradox is present. - like in Hodor's case.

The mad King was suspicious of the lords around him. He went truly crazy once he hired Varys and he started telling him everybody's secrets. The mad King was called the mad King because he was paranoid and cruel. And liked burning people.

>>687117396
I dunno, that sounds kinda cool to me. I just am not crazy about how it doesn't make sense logically.

>>687120498
No, you're not addressing the point. Somewhere in the passage of time, there is a regular Wylis. There's still a paradox.

>>687120386
powerful woman speech gets ratings in "Current year" society.
Fact is they are interested in making most watched rather than best. This means playing up to the millions of cunts whom eat this shit up.
>TWD is another example.

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>>687120649
no he dded

>>687120537
who are you replying to?

>>687120710
Also he was held captive and Barriatan rescued him, after this event he was pretty much broken.

>>687120160
a three eyed raven isn't mad?

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>>687120739
Regular Wylis -> Turn into Hodor -> Hodor takes Bran to Bloodraven -> Bran lives and is given the opportunity to turn Wylis into Hodor -> Hodor takes Bran to Bloodraven - > Bran lives and is given the opportunity to turn Wylis into Hodor -> Hodor takes Bran to Bloodraven.

Causality. Loop.

>>687115269
Well its not really bran who does it. Its people shouting around him while he watches. He is probably going to watch the mad king and some idiot next to him is going to shout "burn them all" as they have already fought off some white walkers. Thus it will echo into the past into the mad kings head.

>>687120787
Just a general point that the only people who have reacted to Bran so far are people who were close to him

>>687120751
i know. its not like i hate her speeches, just feels like they overkill it sometimes.
i thought she had them convinced when all dothraki got on their knees but then they did that dragonriding speech (awesome because dragon)

>>687120882
Three eyed raven is about 125 years old. Substantially older than the mad king.

>>687119648
I wish patchface had been a thing in the TV show

>>687120765
these two need to happen

>>687119988
The dubz don't lie

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>>687121017
He told Bran he had been there a 1000 years (in the cave)

>>687119988
Aye. Northerners are typically white due to lack of sun, meaning a lighter skin colour is better at absorbing vitamin D from the sun - thus promoting survival.

No blacks in the North is exactly how it should be.

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>>687121303

>>687121214
everyone exaggerates

>>687119988
>black people
>in mediaeval european fantasy

Go watch Beowulf, faggot.

>>687121214
Well that's bollocks considering he's the son of Aegon IV Targeryen and Melissa Blackwood.

>>687115984
I didn't like any of the characters you mentioned (except Doran, he was the only guy around who fucking thought about what he was doing), still I don't like Bran's part. I never did.
My favourites are Jon Snow's, Tyrion's, Sam's and Daenerys'

>>687119988
trip dubs

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>>687121303
Reminds me of that show from the 70s that was set in the 50s and there were absolutly NO BLACK PEOPLE. What was it called again? Had the Fonz and NO BLACK PEOPLE...


Oh yeah it was called 'HAPPY DAYS'

>>687121414
Ya I know when people ask how old I am I usually say a number between 34 and 13,0000

>>687121481
Why would he lie about his age? Chicks do that not three eyed ravens!

>jorah the greyscale will return as jorah the whitescale

>>687121479
There are the Summer Islands.

I haven't seen a good movie/series with a closed loop time travel since Primer
But I have faith in jorge

>>687120943
I still don't understand

>>687121670
wat?

Jorah should use his level 9000 friendzone powers and make KellyC a sweet mixtape and a poster asking her to the Dothraki prom.

>>687121618
I don't think he did. He said he had waited a thousand years for Bran. Whilst a little cryptic, I think he simply meant that through all the visions he's experienced, spanning back thousands of years, he may share the knowledge/experience of men from thousands of years ago.

Either way, the anon who said maybe Bloodraven could be the mad king is retarded.

>>687121502
only good characters left in the show.

>>687121940
I liked Aegon's plot too, but that's just in the books.

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>>687121940

>sam
>good

>>687121688
Don't he hasn't written the last 2 seasons.
Thus why they're so shit.

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>>687121367
>>687121396
>>687121303

>>687121830
I thibk jorah will kill himself with whatever those children of the forest used to made the whitewallkers and accidentally heal himself by stopping the sickness and come back with a stone arm alas winter soldier to kick ass

Honestly I feel like Danny's plot is being rushed and not developed enough.

I think it would help to flesh out the character better if we could get a few more books/seasons worth of her making some grand spectacle and acting badass, then fucking shit up by doing nothing and getting bailed out by her white knights.

I think that would really add something.

>>687122103
killed a white walker and now he has a valyrian steel sword. and he fucked gilly

>>687115269

>Yfw Game of Thrones is just Terminator

>>687122103
He is a coward and a bed-wetter but still he is one of the few who thinks about his actions. Ser Jaime Dumbster acts and THEN thinks.

>>687122299
>he fucked gilly
so did her father

>>687122270
i do hope he survives, and the stone arm would be pretty fun to use in combat scenes

>>687122371
And both can arguably be good thing depending on the situation

>>687122191
You don't like this season so far? Fuck I think it is awesome and feel like they have hit the gas pedal which helps with pacing a bit.

>>687122299
Nice I didn't think of that. Sam is boring right now but Gilly is so fucking hot I can put up with it.

>>687122292
ha ha ya and they need more of her standing around listening to others talk then interrupting them

>>687122299
Gg wp sam

>>687121793
I don't know how to explain it to you, but i'll try again.

Wylis is born, grows up to around 14 I'm guessing, at which point, from what it seems to everyone around him, he starts spazzing out, and from that day forth he only says "Hodor". His new mental retardation molds him into the Hodor that we know, the fully-grown, big-dicked simpleton we know and love.

If it weren't for the fact that Hodor was retarded in the first palce, and was employed by the starks, and was responsible for looking after Bran, he would never have gone with Bran to Bloodraven. So the very fact that Hodor is retarded, led him down the path of going to Bloodraven with Bran.

If it weren't for the fact that Bran had made it to Bloodraven (which would have been impossible and would not have happened without Hodor), then Bran would never have been able to warg into Wylis during a vision of the past - causing the initial retardation and transformation into Hodor.

What I'm saying is, If Wylis had never become Hodor, Bran would never have reached bloodraven, and would never have had the opportunity to turn Wylis into Hodor in the first place.

But since Wylis did become Hodor, Hodor was able to take Bran to Bloodraven, at which point Bran was able to perform the initial even of turning Wylis into Hodor , thus completing the loop.

tl;dr fucking read it.

>>687122270
>stone arm alas winter soldier
Now that's something I wanna see

>>687122414
CRASTER WINCEST

>>687121688
>Primer
Muh negro

>>687119629
what if Ramsay were the three eyed raven

mind = blown

>>687122103
I just want to root for him. He killed a white walker, got the shit beaten out of him for Gilly, and is doing his best to take care of his family.

>>687122299
And perpetually looks like a modern day neckbeard (like GRRM).

>fedora tipping implied

>>687122693
OMFG ILLUMINAUGHTY HODOR=TYRION=DAENERYS=AZOR AHAI

>>687122474
at first i thought the whole gilly/sam traveling story was stupid but the scene with the sword made it seem important.
not many of valyrian steel swords around. and since they kill white walkers it might come in handy.

>>687116860
Maybe Bran can take the red woman back in time and save stannis.

Its like calvinball once you throw both time travel and magic into the storyline.

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>>687122693
what if sam is just a fat hobbit?

>>687120056
True, unless Bran somehow IS Bloodraven by warging into the past further into the series, somehow and becoming Brynden Rivers or some shit and he actually does know what will happen

>>687122753
>He killed a white walker
A few characters now have killed white walkers, everyone's making a big deal about samwise gamgee killing one because he's an obese walking neckbearded wimp

>>687119165
but Bran is the three eyed raven...

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I stopped watching after the 3rd season. From what I can gather through most people's posts is that the shows gone full retard; and it's been in a serious decline.

Am I right? Should I bother picking up where I left off? I stopped watching because it seemed more and more like a soap opera each time I tuned in.

>>687116164
please

>>687123080
Isn't relly everything a soap opera?

>>687123136
Uh, no

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>>687122996
>he's an obese walking neckbearded wimp

Wouldn't you shit your pants if a three year old did 911?

>>687123136
Yeah, but GoT has 7977949% more death than common ones

>>687122991
dat'd be cool. But I'm pretty sure Bran would have to kill the original Brynden Rivers and replace him. Because we know exactly where Bloodraven comes from. Aegon IV Targeryen and Melissa Blackwood.

A good opportunity for him to do it would be when he's on his way to become Lord Commander of The Night's Watch. Since he's never supposed to return, so his family wouldn't get the chance to realise he's an imposter, and the men on the wall wouldn't know what he looked like.

It would explain how Bloodraven knows so much about Bran. But of course it's just speculation.

>>687123222
>>687123136
Tell me another series that you think is not a soap opera

>>687123005
It's an interesting theory.
See: >>687123345

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>>687115433
kekerooni fresh n fruity

>>687115269
Current GoT is a mess, editing is horrible, episodes show character for 4 min then jumps to another, in that 4 min they have to introduce us to the scene first and in the end we get like 15 seconds of story before jumping to other characters and repeating the process.

With out books as a guide, writers are starting to turn characters in to classic good/bad guys instead of "real" people with mix of good and bad. Worst example is Arya in last episode.

>>687123614
dats a pretty nice d

Speaking of Brans, whatever happened to Bronn? He was based.

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>>687120559
I'm so fucking hype bro

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>>687123812
talkin about Bran and Bron. Didn't even mention Brann.

>>687122967
>>687122805
>>687122693

what if Areo Hotah was a nigger?

>>687123005
Doesn't explain why he said he'd been in the tree 1000 years.

I think all the Bran's are related, in spirit at least. Bran the builder, bla bla bla

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>>687115969
It's a retarded time paradox that George Arrh arrh martin shouldn't have gone into. Ruins the whole series

>>687124188
Y

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>>687123812
He was mentioned by Jaime in the most recent episode. I want to say he may have been seen in this upcoming episode at the showdown with the blackfish.

>>687124069
He hasn't been there 1000 years. He's 125 years old for a start. And spent a lot of his life on the wall.

see: >>687121883

>>687123799
What are ya' fuckin' gay?

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>>687124412
ye

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>>687120943
You keep taking the b8

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>>687124305
I saw the same thing in the preview.

>>687115269
ITT: autistic ppl that wished they lived in the midevil times.

This show is ok especially the chicks and tits, nothing else. Im up to date with the show and i still dont fully understand all the house families, their sigil, country layout, etc. Its so confusing and stupid with all these names.

>>687124301

>Not in the books
>Sandor is pretty much confirmed for being alive in the books therefore Cleganebowl

>>687125934
I don't even pay attention to the rest of the shitty plots. I'm at maximum hype level for Cleganebowl only.

>>687115853
I'll get right on it fonzy

>>687122474
>Gilly

>hot

WTF is wrong with you!? She is fugly and somehow manages to have both a double chin and no chin

>>687115269

This fucking thing has TIME TRAVEL now?

Hah! What a pathetic collapse. That's the lamest 'oh shit, we wrote ourselves into a corner' escape hatch of them all except for, 'it was all a dream.'

>>687126377
>Gilly
Is nothing but a butthole
Sam's sister and mom though...

>>687115269
Starks actually get to know that Bran was pushed down the tower by Jaime Lannister, so they march to war.. But if he does it to himself then they would just stay in Winterfell and chill until they get slashed by white walkers or not..?

>>687123974
that WoTLK nostalgia hit me hard

>>687115269
In the book, bran can only teleport into weirwoods, so he cannot make the mad king mad.

>>687122869
Kek

>>687120666
Then why didn't Yoda beat Vader?

>>687115269

Honestly the show is just about the tits and ass at this point.

Are you fucking seriuos?!

Tits, ass, and sex is all the story as EVER been about. It's about how much GRRM lusts after teenage girls, and wants to put them into situations where they get fucked. Figuratively and literally.

If you're only realizing this now, you're a fucking moron.

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>>687127448
>Mfw we will never see an accurate representation of all the game of thrones girl characters

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>>687127581

Bran cannot change the past. Where did people get this idea?

>>687127978
well he kind of can but only what he is 'meant' to change.
stuff that has already been changed. its a loop.

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>>687125000
Those trips got me hyped as fuck

I hate this fucking show, people watching it are fucking worse than vegans.

NO I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, I'M NOT PLANNING ON WATCHING IT AND PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK STOP TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT

You're assuming that Bran is the cause. Could have been the previous three-eyed raven fucking with Hodor. We don't know the full extent of what he could do.

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Lost interest after this one died

>>687115269
No, this is false. Targaryen madness spreads over a span of 1000 years. The targaryen bloodline is filled with incest which causes madness in about a third of Targaryens when they reach about 25 if remember correctly. Bran would have to visit every targaryen family for every century and turn a third of them mad. Bran knows not to fuck up the past now becuase he fucked up hodor.

Come on spout some more uneducated theories. How about Jaimie lannister is a worg?

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>>687128453
spotted the virgin

>>687125420
It sounds like you might be a moron. Please consult with your nearest disposal spike.

>>687122585
R34 of this?

Sorry to disappoint you all, but it is going to be Loras fighting the Mountain, not the Hound.

>>687128453

And yet, you clicked reply in a GoT-thread.

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>>687128453
Might want gtfo of this thread then.

>>687123872
Jorah vs. Every chicken in this room kek

>>687115527
even grrm said the lost ending was shit and he's doing something better so yeah, hopefully

>>687124817
How can the cleganebowl happen now that Jeoffery's head is on the mountains body?

He's no longer a clegane.

>>687124431
wait i thought she killed herself at the red wedding?

>>687129450
why the fuck would jeofferys head be on the mountains body

>>687122556
Your closed loop implies, bran can change the past. It also just means, what has already happened was brans fault. And everytime he will try to change it, it has alredy happened, so "destiny". Or it just means everything is alredy the past, and the last part of got will be old bran on his death bed saying this is it.

>>687130421
hes already changed the past when he yelled dad to ned stark when he was walking up the steps

nothing really changed so im assuming if he makes changes in what he views as the past, nothing in the present will change because its already happened in the past and your already living the present that resulted from him "changing" things