What would happen if a sun made of ice would collide with a normal, lava-made sun? Both suns would be the same size and ice-made sun's temperature would be -1000 degrees of celsius and normal sun's temperature +1000 degrees of celsius.
Would their combined effects cancel each other out so that instead there would be only empty space or one 0-degree sun?
>>686938690
lava-made sun???
go back to school
-1000°C = go back to school
>>686938690
your autism would increase 10 fold.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehUu2hPMMWI
>>686938690
OP would suddenly become a faggot.
> normal sun
> +1000 degrees Celsius
wouldn't they cancel each other out?
>>686938690
the sun is 15,000,000 degrees C
>>686938690
>lava made sun
>1000 degrees
>-1000 degrees
>void
>the idea
>the question
Pick any one of the above for a reason this is fucking retarded
>>686939083
Like he's not already.
That's not how heat works, you fucking idiot.
>>686939297
OP should go back to 7th grade science
>>686938690
there is no -1000°C
Its -6 gorillion dregee Celsius OP
Look up the Kelvin system and read about it, then convert it to Celsius and realize ur mistake.
>>686939265
you're new, this is copypasta
>>686938690
the stick wins
>>686939557
LOL
>>686938690
I know this is some dumb copypasta so for fun I'm just gonna assume they're two planets. So assuming two planets of equal mass and average temperature of this theoretical -1000 and 1000degree C collided: The kinetic energy of the collision would be transfered mostly into heat energy due to the all the particles colliding with each other but being bound by the gravity of the two objects. So the object would be much hotter than 0C.
The remaining object after most of the collision has settled will be a single planet with 2 times the mass of one of the original planets, but a temperature much higher than the average of the two planets' temperatures.
>>686938690
the game
Newtons 3rd law of the conservation of thermal heat energy in celestial bodies in space states that the normal lava sun would further absorb the heat from the ice made sun effectively doubling the temperature of the lava sun to +2000 degrees Celsius and halving the temperature of the ice sun to -2000 degrees Celsius. Theoretically the lava made sun could then keep absorbing heat from other cooler things until it heats up enough to cook the entire universe at once.
Of course the chances of these two suns colliding are very very low low, like 1 in thousands. They're not even created in the same asteroid fields so they don't ever meet in space. So this is all theoretical of course.
ITT
>What are the laws of thermodynamics
hurr durr...
>>686938690
They become a kind of warmish sun
>>686938690
Stop replying to troll threads.
Absolute zero- the coldest temperature obtainable is -273 c.
>>686938690
OK, I'm an astrophysics buff so ima set some shit straight.
First of all, there is no -1000C. Abs zero is like negative 250 or around there. Assuming its about that, a sun-sized ball of ice would be much more massive than our own, which has lighter elements than the oxygen in water. The ice-sun would instantly collapse under its own gravity and heat up exponentially quickly until it started fusing the hydrogen in its core, at which time it would begin expanding again and become much hotter than our own sun due to its higher mass. If our sun collided with another star of greater size, they would fuse to become a new, hot blue star.
>educating idiots on 4chan
>>686941912
-273.15 C°
>>686941316
>>686941595
you two are idiots
listen to me
>>686942100
>>686938690
stale pasta faggot
>>686942245
yet there are still people getting caught by this bait
OP is retarded, but weirdly if a cold star collides with a hot star the hot star gets hotter. Stars almost never collide btw, they orbit each other and the bigger one eventually strips the smaller one of its mass.
>ice-made sun
>lava made sun
>-1000 Celsius.
Jesus
>>686942100
>astrophysics
astrophysicist
doesn't know the lowest temperature
>nagative 250
-273.15
What a faggot
>>686938690
You'd create a rock sun at a cool 0 degrees.
>>686938690
Well, you guys all are quite retarded.
Negative absolute temperature is not only possible, but actually is observed experimentally. It can't be 0 still though.
http://talkobamato.me/
>>686942100
LOOOOL
An ice sun can't just instantly turn into a lava sun you fucking idiot.
I've seen it all now.
>>686938690
Lava becomes rock when it gets cold
Ice becomes water when it gets hot
You'd get a ball of rock covered in water
This is how Earths are made
>>686942100
Yeah you're pretty retarded. If you actually read my post you'd see I changed the assumptions of the question purposely to simplify the basic idea that would actually answer someone's question if they were curious. Anyone with a few physics courses (or none at all really) could understand that a planet made purely of ice would collapse under it's own weight at a sufficient scale.
Learn to read before you try to inflate your ego LMAO
>>686943336
Glaciers are made entirely of ice and they dont collapse at their core. Ice is stronger than you think.
>>686942100
um no. Firstly, a block of ice with the same volume of our sun would have less mass. So sayeth wikipedia
Secondly, you're right that it would collapse and the pressure would atomize the molecules but as over a third of it's atoms are oxygen which make up 16/18 of it's mass the centre of the star will never ignite. Oxygen is considered a metal in astrophysics and it's the cancer of stars.
you'd be left with an extremely unnatural brown dwarf with a metallic hydrogen core and stratified oxygen layers
The sun is not burning, is doing nuclear stuff you fool. Things, no matter the heat, will contribute in mass to fuel moar nuclear fision powa more heat
the blue one is even hotter retard
>>686943692
hahaha the sun is made of nukes now? it cant be and i have prove.
1. if the sun was nukes russia wouldnt let america own it
2. if it was a nukes then it would have a cloud like a mushroom
3 if it was nukes it would have exploded onto earth and we are here to talk about it cos it didnt happen. proof!!!
>>686944123
>>686944123
If anyone takes this post seriously I'm just going to kms
i think the people of atlantis new what the sun was made up from.when they all sunk in a grate earthquake they died.so did the ideas of what made the sun.
>>686939162
That depends on the specific heat of each of them.
Assuming they're equal masses of lava and ice, we assume there isn't a nuclear core and uniform density throughout, we ignore the fact that -1000 celcius doesn't exist, the sun made out of lava would win because it's specific heat capacity is several magnitudes higher than ice's. It would take more than lava's equivalent mass in ice to cool it down before the ice melts and evaporates.
>>686938690
Without reading the thread:
The two would become a new sun, because the mass is enough to confine fusion plasma.
The sun is the left over bits from when God created Earth. He made a fire to warm us with his glorious light. The light was his word. Repent and look to him for forgiveness.
>>686942491
Yeah, but they have to cheat the negative temperature into existence with magnetic fields and shit.
>>686938690
>sun made of ice
jesus christ how autistic are you
>>686942491
I thought temps below absolute 0 were only theoretical, based on changes in enthalpy that would result in calculations lower than absolute 0
>>686940174
Underrated post.
energy is not linearly relative to temperature when two different materials are in the equation
>>686942457
and a ton of icewater
>>686938690
>thinking the sun is made of lava
That must be what causes volcanic eruptions; there's a mini sun trying to get out of earth like a skinny chick inside a hamplanet
>>686939094
Obviously it's going to be a + temperature you nutter, it's hot.
>>686938690
there is so much wrong with this
>sun made of ice would be a planet
>lava-made sun
>-1000°C
>the thought of a resulting empty space
>>686941912
Literally disproven by the fact there is an ice sun -1000c
>>686938690
There is so much wrong with this post. Where do I begin?
>>686938690
the stupidity hurts
>>686945212
>he cannot visualise a hypothetical situation and laughs inappropriately when he doesn't understand something
Now THAT is a symptom of Autism!
>>686938690
>Be me
>Pretty well educated in the field of physics
>see this
Thanks anon for making me chuckle
>>686938690
well obviously temperature is matter thus the net result would be 0-
>people pretending to take the bait in order to counter-troll
People are actually falling for this ancient bait...
>>686944123
I think this guy just broke the lower limit on intelligence
>>686938690
Totally depends on who writes this non-scientific fiction.
If the writer wants to they make babies.
people in this thread be like
>>686938690
First of all, that ice sun would melt long before colliding, so it would actually be a water sun. But anyway, they would merge to form an obsidian sun, which would be almost as strong as a diamond sun. Remember diamond is the strongest metal known to man.
>>686946514
>he doesn't understand the pointlessness of imagining a physically and mathematically impossible scenario
>>686946514
Nah, that's a symptom of not being stupid.
>>686947027
the neurosity!
>>686939094
He's not actually that far off, the smallest star has a surface temperature of about 1750 degrees Celsius
>>686946980
No it is not the strongest.
>>686946576
Nope. Different materials retain different amounts of energy. Both materials would have to have identical energy retainment properties if a 1000c body and a -1000c body combined to create a 0c body. Water and rock do not.
>>686938690
Since the absolute highest temperature possible in science is 273c, it'd be impossible to have a sun 1,000c but for the sake of argument lets say it's possible.
The two suns would fuse into a large mass 0c in temperature though due to gravity it would be elongated.
Holy shit how new are you guys?
>>686938690
This is how Kanye West is formed
>>686947027
Struggling with abstract thought? :^)
>>686938690
First off the sun is not lava, ignorant fuck. Also, -1000 Celsius is below absolute zero, thus ignoring laws of physics.
>>686947350
Found an idiot. This guy thinks our sun isn't burning hotter than 273c....oh fuck I gotta stop lurking this shit makes me angry.
Sun vs Sun
Sun wins
>>686938690
>lava made sun
>>686947538
Don't feed the troll
>>686947538
You want to break the rules of physics, be my guest.
Suns are made of lava...
I don't think this is a practical question
It's more of a creative argument
A "What if"
>lava-based sun
Only the core is lava, the rest is fire you dolt.
>>686946290
Kek this
>>686947350
>the absolute highest temperature possible in science is 273c
retard detected
ITT: Retards who don't know that 100°C is the temperature of the sun's surface
mfw
It would be a water sun because the ice would melt and the lava would be put out and so then it would be a water sun
>prove me wrong I'm an scientist
the ice would melt before reaching the sun.
>>686947934
... IM OUT
100 Brock Lesnars + 3 billion lions v 1 fused ice/lava sun
Who wins?
>>686947788
there is no lava on or in the sun
OP, you are lowering my IQ by reading this.
>>686947934
Well yeah but the core is 273c.
>>686947996
At 0c it'd be more like a slush sun
>>686947934
So when I'm cooking a turkey, the inside of my oven is twice as hot as the surface of the sun? Awesome.
>there are people in this thread who've never seen this, "hey it's john" or the gorilla army pasta
>>686948056
Well obviously not in the ice sun, it's the lava sun we're talking about.
Keep up.
>>686947996
It would be a giant ball of rock surrounded by icewater
gravity would cause the two to merge and youd end up with one sun twice as big
the temperatures would cancel each other out of course but then you have to add in the heat from friction created in the collision, so the resulting sun would not be at zero degrees as you might expect but slightly warm, probably made out of wood or something
source: me, Ive watched a whole bunch of space vids on youtube so I know what Im talking about
>>686939557
Kek
>>686948366
Technology is indeed amazing.
Sun is made of Hydrogen
>>686948198
Exactly.
>>686948464
What the fuck did you just say about me?
>>686938690
Simple. The end result would be planet earth.
>>686948366
Yes indeed. What makes the sun so hot is that it's very big, even though it's not particularly hot.
>>686948529
That's probably how the Earth was formed.
The earth would be so deep in lions, the marines would suffocate.
>>686948605
>>686948704
Earthmind
>>686948605
no it would be Jupiter
>>686947223
yes faggot, it is. This was scientifically proven. I bet you are an aluminum fanboy. Only a faggot would into meme metals like aluminum so much.
>>686948718
The silverback gorillas would save us
>>686946290
underrated
>>686948919
nope
americans would shoot all the gorrilas
If our sun was 1,000c we'd all burn alive.
>>686949041
2soon4me I cri erryteim ;_;
>>686938690
>-1000 degrees of celsius
I don't think there's such a thing
actually all of you are stupid because the ice sun would freeze the whole space and then then lave sun would get frozen until it becomes frozen lava and then they would both fall onto earth and hopefully we can nuke the ice sun so that it breaks and then the lava sun will get unfrozen then it can float back up and we will be safe
>>686949153
>what is distance
>what is ozone
>>686943692
That pic doesn't make sense light doesn't move
>>686949393
but the whole of space is still frozen
How to bait newfags:The thread
>>686949514
actually the lava sun would eventually unfreeze everything because its like boiling
>>686949453
Why are you asking me? Pick up a book and educate yourself.
>>686941912
>-1000 < -273
Doesn't seem to be as absolute as you creationist faggots think then, since -1000 would be colder.
>>686938690
nothing, because the sun does not exist. you can't see it from "space" if you managed to even get there.
It would create mustard gas
explosion
-1000°C
Im gunna pumch you in the nuts
>>686938855
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holy fuck leave /b/ and never come back
>>686949682
Not at that temperature, you'd be long dead from freezing. Bones freeze completely by -600c.
>>686949656
nope (no air in space)
>>686949897
>-600c
uwot cunt
>>686949514
Something being frozen requires there being matter present that could freeze. Space isn't frozen, there's just very little energy in it.
>>686949939
thats because explosions displace air
>>686949939
Ice is h2o
h2o = hydrogen and 2 oxygens
Oxygen is air
If the lava sun melted the ice sun it'd disperse and spread air around the solar system (although it would be quite thin), allowing for the possibility of an explosion.
>>686949939
Explosions do not require air
>>686950040
>he can't count
Are you just pretending to be retarded?
>>686950175
yebut once the ice sun has melted to release air it will have merged into the final slightly warm sun of wood or plastic and thered be no reason to explode