>>686608403
Fucking Anor Londo, that place is hell.

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>>686612090
Nice!

>>686612177
>>686612139
>>686612090
nice

i like 2 more than 3 lol

>>686612556
How different is 2 from 1?

>>686613226
more than 3 because it didn't copy paste over half the content and even the animations lol

>>686613226
day and night

>>686613226
>>686613417
But 2 is not canon fam.

>>686613601
so, no lore continuation?

>>686613601
canon? wut?
what kind of gay IDIOT cares about a story in dark souls? its like oh go wander thru this shithole everything is screwed up okay now u link flame or u doint
theres like some interesting npcs and thats it
it's all bout dat gameplay
praise the sun's strategy guide thingers show how much better the gameplay is than any other one

>>686613913
kek

>>686613226
Different. Hard to explain. Bosses are more boring, areas don't make sense. Still fantastic, just not on the tier of 1/BB/3

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>>686614018
im going to post in a different thread if you aren't there to say kek again im going to be really dissapointed

>>686613913
You're fucking daft if you don't care about the story in Dark Souls.

>>686614443
OFF BY ONE1!!!one!1

>>686614517
haha u think ur smart huh usin ur special words

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>>686614517
/thread

>>686615019
Oh shit, that's where I'm stuck now.

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>>686615420

you need more praisin'

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>>686615420
Git gud

>>686608948
when your equipment load is over 70%, but the armor looks too cool

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My Character, The Fishmonhger

>>686613226
B Team saw all the neat shit that A Team did in 1 and did not quite the opposite, but diverged enough to fuck it up.

Implemented farmable/buyable item-based healing and made Estus, the limited and respawning healing method of 1, not viable for use during battle.

Made most of the enemies and bosses uninteresting.

Had the weakest story in any of the games, including DeS and Bloodborne

Implemented a ridiculous tracking mechanic that meant enemies would basically spin around trying to find you.

Hitboxes are shit, enemies could hit you or grab you even if you were clearly out of their reach.

Tried to create atmosphere by implementing a lighting system, that they later had to ditch because consoles, leaving the game looking plastic and garish.

Implemented a pvp matching system called Soul Memory that fucked it up for everyone.

among other things.

>>686615420
That's where I am on my long-running SL 1 attempt. They seemed so easy back when I could equip whatever I wanted and wear a shield with decent stability ;_;

>>686616253
pve FAGGET

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estoc bestoc

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>>686616253

DkS2 became aware 3 days after release and this is what the AI decided about the people playing it

>>686616253
In other words, they ingeniously made the game unbearable but only for massive faggots.

It's actually quite good still, I'd say it's worth playing through

>>686616629
what this guy said

>>686616629
Nah im sure fans still played it, maybe just a little disappointed is all.

>>686614517
"Seek more powerful souls, etc, lest this land swallow you whole, as it has so many others."

There's your fucking story from Dark Souls to 3 idiot.

I came 2 seconds off of beating the world record speedrun. I was doing it live. I french fried when i shoulda pizza'd. I fucked up. I woulda been like a little internet famous.

>>686614517
go read a fucking book if you want a story faggot

>>686617118
>>686617226
Yeah, sure. Don't forget your helmet today, sport.

>>686616578
that's so fucking cool

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>>686616629

nope - you got that wrong: game appeals ONLY to massive faggots.
... typical of DkS2 faggots to not get that thinking that they are special snowflakes and surely nothing is wrong
the game sucks, not even SOTFS fixed it, still a steaming pile of cash-grab shit

>>686617319
"can't think of anything, better just call them retards!"

>>686617448
>Not even SOTFS fixed it

It was amazing before SOTFS imo. But if you think it's for massive faggots then welcome.

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>>686616253
everyone rags on soul memory but I always saw it as an anti-twink tool. Sure you could still twink but it was a lot harder to do and it wouldn't last if you PvPed long enough because the souls you got from killing people would force you to keep leveling. The only draw back in my opinion was that every soul not spent on levels was wasted, deterring you from buying consumables.

>>686617448
Ds2 was fantastic in sorry if you can't realize that. I'm tired of trying to convince stuck up faghots otherwise. Ds2 alone was a great game but when you throw in the dlcs with some of the coolest areas and best bosses in the series Theres no way you could have platinumed the game and not admit that it was worth the effort and then some

>>686615932
I don't know why, but th thumbnail makes it look like his face is a grey scale image of Dick Cheney.

i have never even played dark souls but i find these comics so fucking funny. man i bet they would be better if i actually played the game

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>>686618104
They are

>>686617539
It was a fitting response to retarded posts

>>686617448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Z7ZTFxVTc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMLR7SIQ-6E
idk man looks pretty good to me
dlc areas were pretty dope as well

>>686617657
>>686617864
Yeah, awesome game, with the such great enemies like the room full of rats, or the room with a bigass rat, or the big knight, or several big knights.

>>686614769
that's a skyrim wallpaper...

>>686618278
I'm a big fan of dark souls, but the first Mario had a more concrete story than them.

The creators even admitted that they had no idea where the game was going. I'm glad they wrapped it up decently, but it has slightly more story than minecraft.

>>686618568
As opposed to the multicultural enemies in games that you are used to? It has every trope and then some, everything from zombies to angels.

Some examples of better more diverse games would be...?

>>686618568
you didn't get killed by rats, right?

>>686618568
you can apply this thinking to literally any other game in the series buddy

>>686618842
lrn2read item descriptions

>>686619187
Dude, get it through your dense head. Interpreting things that you put together into a story is not a concrete deliberate actual story.

Every fag in here including myself watch Souls lore videos, but that does not mean that it's deep with story. I could make a video showing the epic minecraft story and it would be no different. There's fun that games give you, then there's games like dark souls where you make your own fun.

>>686619100
check'd
>more diverse games that use every trope imagined
there isn't one, but using all tropes isn't smart as you run out of tropes to use in the sequel of that game.
>if you haven't noticed I don't know what trope means and I'm trolling k bye <3

i think the only thing ds3 did right was the music

I don't want to shitpost but dks2 really did have a big problem with "bigbossinbigarmorwithbigweapons"

Dragonrider, dragonslayer, the pursuer, ruin sentinels, throne watcher and defender, velstad, fume knight, both smelter demons, ivory king, giant lord...

Also, the fact that many areas and bosses were downright ugly an boring or even just straight up reuses of the same enemy

>>686619542
>I need my stories to be told in long, comprehensive exposition. If it's told through context, environments, objects and game mechanics, it doesn't exist. I should not be required to think, just open my mouth for the spoon to come in.

loved the first one, played ~60 hours in One week.

the second one is funny, too, but it's not quite as enjoyable (35h in around 2 weeks). Dunno, these boss fights where you have to fight against many of them ... don't like that.

>>686619983
yeah, it's principally always the same... the first one had variety ...


didn't played the 3rd cuz lack of money

>>686619983
am i the only one who thinks people who say "shitpost" are massive gay butt heads

>>686620355
no

>>686619988
You probably think that the story in your head of dark souls is the actual main story that the creators had in mind for you. You ignore the fact that any theory that pulls together the facts of the dark souls universe has massive assumptions, like do bosses die when you kill them, do the cycles continue, etc, they go on forever.

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>>686617918
holy shit, youre right

>>686620486
they don't die forever, Gundyr is a good example of that, that legless freak fought and defeated him and changed the outcome of that dark ass place that is the untended graves.

>>686619542
What >>686619988 said
There is most certainly a concrete, deliberate story. You're free to take in that story and make your conclusions from there, but there's a definite story within the game.

>>686620830
It's like reading the Bible, it's what makes DS so good, you can pick and choose from different moments to make different stories true. In my opinion, the story is completely arbitrary. Which is what people are saying if you play dark souls for it's story. It's definitely not about the story, its about the player.

>>686621169
and the journey and other bullshit

>>686620486
Have you bothered reading the DS story? Bosses don't 'die' they're souls are reborn into more powerful beings. In DS2 seath's souls is in dear duke freya, nito' is in the rotten, chaos bed is in the old iron king I think.

>>686621616
chaos is in the lost sinner YOU IDIOT UGH get the story right its very important and means way more than the gameplay because who cares about the gameplay right gameplay doesnt matter in vidya games you definitely shouldnt just watch tv or movies if you want a story

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>>686621616
I have not, but I have heard that it is equally condeluted and purposefully vague in areas. You can say they don't die, but the first flame being able to fade seem contrary in it's own way. Do they always return? You can interpret the firekeeper in that they do, or think she's corrupted.

>>686621169
>you can pick and choose from different moments to make different stories true.
No, you can't. There were definite events set in stone. What you're saying is akin to "picking and choosing" all the good Hitler did for Germany prior to WW2 to imagine him as a good guy. You're free to interpret it that way, but you'd be wrong.

>It's definitely not about the story, its about the player.
Huh. That's weird because I and something like half of the playerbase care about the story which in turn gives meaning to what the player does.

>>686613601
You're out of your mind if you think ds2 isn't cannon. They tied the lore in too heavily with ds3 for it not to be.

>>686622373
>2016
>thinking hitler did anything wrong.

>>686621998
>this "gameplay doesn't matter" strawman
>people are honestly still using the "just go do x if you want a story vidya is meant only for gameplay" argument

>>686622733
Fuck, you got me.

>>686622765
oh gee i guess my argument is wrong you proved me wrong darn

>>686608403
I literally JUST completed my first playthrough of Dark Souls. It was fucking awesome.

The ending felt a bit underwhelming though...

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>>686612210
>>686612177
>>686612139
>>686612090

>There will never be a faux 16-bit adaptation of Dark Souls

>>686622765
It was no more than the original "The story sucks so the game sucks" strawman...

>>686623030
Yes, you are arguing to a strawman as well as asserting the fallacy that "X form of media has Y feature, therefore other features are worthless."

Seems a lot of people complaining about dark souls 2 are playing it for the wrong reasons.

The real reason to consider dark souls 2 is pvp. Get gear, level up, and go enjoy cancer in the arenas/iron bridge.

Got any pve/story related complaints than do yourself a favor and become an hero.

Haven't played ds3 but the pvp meta seems even more cancerous than the last 2 games. No poise sounds fun tho. : ^)

>>686613913
Idiot

>>686623780
it's not completely worthless, but like everyone in this thread is so focused on a story that isn't really that great while not mentioning gameplay or level design once

>>686622577
It's canon, but not super important.

All that DS3 used from 2 was:

-Drangleic was a place, and eventually was called Drang
-There was a king once who wasn't very good at it
-The Faraam armor is a thing
-Gilligan made some ladders, then died
-Yes, wooden, faceless giants also existed, but weren't the only giants.

Maybe one or two more minor things. At that point, there's more references to Demons Souls.

>>686616253
On point

>>686616019
Seath the fabulous!
Kek

>>686623954
I don't know what thread you've been reading...or what Dark Souls you've been playing for that matter. The story is just as captivating as the gameplay elements.

>>686613226
>weak lore
>rush wharf
>get greatsword
>NG+5

>>686624360
i seriously can't even play ds3 pvp because there's so many dillholes
heavy weapons are a massive crutch for really bad players
>unparryable 2h
>ridiculous hyper armor
im going to take a break to let my jimmies settle, but when i come back all i'll just be a prick as well
i was thinking whip, small leather shield, dagger and avelyn

>>686624663
I guess different parts of the game are more appealing to certain people! You saying that the story is just as captivating as the gameplay is the same as saying the gameplay is all that matters

>>686624759
tbh i'm atm in the undead crypt and i'm still playing with Longsword (Fire) +10. Greatswords are too slow for me.

Is there a good, fast weapon for NG+ that i could get? Loved the Black Knight Halberd in DS1

>>686623881
Sooooo, you're saying that the significant drop in quality of several aspects of the game isn't a valid complaint? Okay.

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>>686625056
santier's
such a diverse moveset, you can poke and play it safe, or just do all the flippy spinny attacks and stunlock enemies to death
it'd be great in pvp but even if you're mixing up attacks you'll probably get parried anyways

>>686625019
>the story is just as captivating as the gameplay
This is objective acknowledgement with implied subjective praise (that most people agree with) of both story and gameplay.

>the gameplay is all that matters
This is simple (and foolish) disregard for many aspects of the game.

These things are not the same.

>>686625056
Have you tried the twinblade?
Most people I see online use pyromancies/spells though.

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>>686625766
wow, it's like you completely missed the first part of the post

>>686624785
Well there's your problem. Whips aren't super viable coz damage, the Avelyn could be fun with special bolts, but is still a prick weapon, and daggers are only useful if you learn to god-quickstep.

>>686617196
git gudder

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>>686626354
I always liked the whips in the games for aesthetics, is there ANY way to make them decent?

>>686625610
will try it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkSouls2/comments/21kxf0/santiers_spear_all_you_need_to_know/

raw+5 or should i take any other "normal" upgrade?

>>686625782
nope, not tried it. will look & try it later

thank you two

>>686623881
>In this series that is famous for 3 things: solo play, online play and story, you must judge the middle game ONLY by the aspect they botched the least: online play.

Ok mate.

>>686626541
be unpredictable
mind games > moveset like 90% of the time in this game

>>686615932
HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU ARE RIGHT>>686617918

>>686626223
But I addressed the first part of the post by breaking down the second part. Acknowledging all aspects of a game is an objectively better approach, and the general consensus is that story is just as important in Dark Souls as the other aspects. Focusing solely on gameplay is something only a simple minded fool would do.

>>686624785
How does hyper armor work?