>>686599689
Definitely. I'm Aussie, so I don't really have a dog in this fight, although having said that EU is a One World Order agenda which ultimately affects everyone.
Most interesting part for me was the focus on Switzerland and how well it's done staying out of the EU, and how much bullshit goes along with free trade deals and little they actually matter to free trade.

>>686600268
Yeah, i was thinking about that too. Swiss have managed to thrive without being in the EU

Voting to leave the EU as a britbong would be like voluntarily leaving a workers union and being left at the mercy of your complete cunt of a boss that no one likes.

>>686600572
With due respect, the Swiss pay a signifcant sum of money to the EU, trade with them heavily, and take a lot of migrants from the EU. The only difference between the Swiss and the UK is that the Swiss pay more for no MEPs.

>>686601234
but are you then willing to give up all your democratic power?

Britain's economy is too crap to survive outside of the EU. What exactly are we supposed to sell? We shut down our factories and replaced them with estate agents and banks, and the country is run by Tory cunts who have no plans other than to sell everything off to the chinks.

Why the fuck would anyone sign a trade deal with us? Switzerland has its Nazi gold, Australia has its mines and barbies, Canada has oil and seals, we have Tesco Metro.

>>686601869
How are we giving up democratic power? There is a European parliament, how is it different to the British parliament?

We don't elect the lords, we don't elect the PM or cabinet, we don't elect the queen, councils have fuck-all real power, MPs are voted in by first past the post so we have governments 2/3rds of voters don't want and most votes as wasted because they're in safe seats.

>>686602003
the EU is a sinking ship. I have no dog in this fight but, it seems to me, those that run the EU are trying to force some sort of socialist paradise at the cost of everyone else. Why were the Greek rioting over their savings accounts being plundered to pay debts to the EU? Why is Germany pissed its covering the costs of other countries? Why are Muslims demanding homes?
To me the EU looks like a train wreck.

>>686602003
I hear our steel will go up in value if we leave the EU. That's gonna save a lot of jobs.

>>686599689
I'm American. I literally have no opinion about britbongs other than they smell like curry and their beer tastes like warm piss.

>>686603022
How, when Dave is letting the chinks dump theirs on the market?

>>686599689
please leave, we don't want you island apes here Fucking Inselaffen.

>>686603309
No the EU is letting the chinks. Not doing us any favours there are they. As long as they get their cheap steel. Fuck the steel distributor that's actually a member of the EU.

>>686603277
an amerifat judging any other nations beer is the most hilarious level of fuckery. holy shit son.

>>686604005
#rekt

Also a large body of land with individual powers, with individual laws for each but ultimately governed by one single government.
Where does that remind me of?

Probably best not to leave, then wait for EU to reach the brink of collapse because it will sooner or later and then lead a total reform.

>>686603998
The EU wanted to impose tariffs on the Chinese steel dumpers, dodgy Dave used our veto.
UKIP backed the Tories

>>686604657
The USA? The most powerful nation on Earth?

>>686605515
Did they now, and why did this happen?
What did they gain from it?
Have you got source on this info?

do you fuckers really want to be alone on an island with theresa "snooper's charter" may?

>>686605644
The USA isn't the most powerful nation on earth. I think they'll be pushing it to scrape into the top 3.

We should 100% leave. We pay HUGE sums of money for people and things we don't need. I know it sounds like tinfoil-hat time, but, with this current invasion by these 3rd world animals that is well underway we simply need to pull up the drawbridge as a people and say no more.

It literally boggles my mind how people can not see that leaving this failed experiment will only benefit us. We'll be able to set up our own trade and export deals etc and reap the rewards as a nation. I honestly believe anyone that suggests remaining in the EU is a good thing has lost their mind. It also give us our power, as a people, back to us. We have let faceless scum in small offices on ludicrous wages force us to do what they say is right for us.

We, the people, have a once-in-a-lifetime chance to tell these cunts to fuck off and I hope with all my heart we take it.

>>686605957
Sounds good to me. Fortify the coast line.

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>>686606006
More delusion, please.

>>686603022
>have to pay additional fees when exporting to the EU
>makes a commodity worth more
keep telling yourself that

>>686606341
Good argument /b/ro, you have totally convinced me to the contrary.

>>686605792
I'll google that for you: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/03/30/britain-sacrifices-steel-industry-to-curry-favour-with-china/

>>686599689
United States of Merkel

>>686606529
We can then buy from the lowest bidder and sell to the highest bidder.
So what, our bananas will turn up in slightly different boxes.
Europe's still gonna want to deal with us anyway. They can't just turn away a country's trade because they're butt hurt we don't want to hold hands with them any more and it might inspire them to sharpen their pencil

>>686606133
this nigga knows whats up. if the britbongs are foolish enough to vote to remain then they deserve everything they will get.

>>686603998

The EU wanted to hit them with higher tariffs and it was vetoed by ... The UK.

So no, leaving the EU won't save our steel.

>>686604005
You've clearly never been here. We have an awesome craft beer scene. That beer never makes it overseas. Start in your bubble m80

>>686607526
when we can just buy shit off of china from that city-sized business park they're building for themselves in Bulgaria? k

>>686608416
nigga the europoors have been doing "craft" beers since medieval times. stfu you silly hipster cunt, you're making us look bad.

Merkel is seen as the de facto leader of the EU, thanks to the Lisbon Treaty giving Germany more power based on population. So Merkel then saying "come on in, Syrian Refugees *snigger* you are all welcome" is taking the fucking piss. We didn't vote for that cunt and in the end her interests are only German interests, she doesn't have to give a shit about any other country.

>>686607526
Europe will still deal with us, we'll be part of EFTA

Part of EFTA is free trade and free movement.

We'll still have immigrants, we'll just paying for them and having no say about it.

Brexit is hilarious tbh they have this daydream of calling the shots and then shitting on workers rights. And morons still follow it

>>686608600
I'm not saying they haven't. My point is that the beer that they see as American isn't representative. Lrn2context you fucking monkey

>>686608630

Her idea of German interests are flooding the country with dirty unlicensed foreigners who literally destroyed the welfare of her own country?

>>686599689
Watch a movie about leaving the EU
"I've decided"

The EU is probably the most undemocratic establishment in the entire world. It's like a federal superstate but it's not a federation.

>>686608735
EFTA-only member of the EU should be the only real association with the EU whatsoever. People on the remain side are saying "we don't know what kind of deal we'll get with Europe if we decide to leave." That's true, but again, we don't know what kind of deal we're getting in the future being a member OF the EU. At least if we're out, we have the power, as a people, to reform, veto, change and we can hold those in power accountable for their actions if and when they fuck up.

>>686609258
Keeps her in power. They will soon be German citizens.
For better or for worse, we need shut of the bastards. We're not even attached to their shitty continent. Why the fuck are we letting them tell us what to do?
We might as well have just let Hitler crack on with what he was doing. At least there would be less Pakis fucking shit up.

>>686609258
German interests is stopping population decline which will be detrimental to their economy. They have this odd notion that people are people, so they just let in thousands or millions of uncivilised barbarians thinking everything will be ok. Female projection

>>686608954
>My point is that the beer that they see as American isn't representative.
But you go ahead and assume the beer you see as British IS representative?

You're fucking retarded.

>>686610893
Can't tell if troll or genuinely believes anyone gives a shit what combination of hops and barley Muricans are pouring into their fat fucking faces.

>>686603998
I think the whole point of importing steel from China is to let the most viable businesses thrive and the weaker ones fail.
It's been said already that Europe is now a semi socialist paradise - supporting terrible businesses and keeping the more successful companies away with bureaucracy.
I think many businesses NEED to stop trading, for the UK/EU to stop stagnating.

>>686602180
then why bother voting at all then? that means you have already given in to a system without democracy and i understand why you would not be bothered to be in the EU

>>686604657
the difference is, it is one continent, locked into a seamless land mass where it is one language, one president and one system that is democratic. you cannot vote for anything in the EU

>>686610893
I never said anything at all about their beer. How fucking stupid are you?

>>686608630
that is exactly why a vote to leave is best

>>686599689
I feel like you should use more than one source before making that decision. If you only watch one side, you only get half the picture.

>>686599689
The part in the movie about how all the regulations forced all the industry away scared the shit out of me, because as an American we are now suffering the same fate and all our industry is going to 3rd world countries.

>>686601234
brit here too. this is the fucking truth

I like having someone stop that cunt cameron doing what he wants with our country

>>686613685
it's bullshit

our government sold off most of the industry to make themselves money. the same way your business keep moving to mexico and china.

to make more money and pay lower wages. the EU helps us get a decent minimum wage unlike the US one

>>686612532
Yea but it's the same principle.
Don your tin foil hat.
The whole point in the EU is to merge one continent in to one country.

>>686613735
by staying you are selling it off even more

>>686613735
Yea instead some bitch from Germany is doing what she wants to our country. What's more we have to pay x billion for the privilege. Hitler was offering to do it for free.

>>686614861
too soon m8

>>686614950
Made me kek you fucking faggot.

>>686614162
I'm also worried about how long it's gonna take for them to start talking about the American Union over here. Probably before I die we are going to be in the same boat trying to make Canada, USA, Mexico, and God knows how many of the other countries south of Mexico into one big union.

>>686615207
at this rate it will probably end up as the World Union.

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>>686615207
Then Gigga Murrica and Gigga Europe will join forces and become Gigga Gigga Malcolm West.

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this is the shit that is killing the EU