we won the war...thats why its not a warcrime

learn how the world works fag

They were legit military targets due to dispersed Jap war industries.

Learn 2 history, not emotions.

BTW notice lack of butthurt about conventional bombing which passed the firebreak distinction in Nagoya and Tokyo.

>>686486080

Technically yes, but you see, only people that lose wars of invasion to their country get convicted of war crimes, you silly goose.

>>686486970

Interesting point of view.

And what information do you have on military targets VS civillian targets that were destroyed?

Is it not a war crime to murder hundreds of thousands of civilians if you need to get to a military target?

>>686487493

lol apparently

>>686486647

Yeah, murrica was the good guys so it wasn't a war crime.
I understand.
It's just not right

It's not. Because God loves America, and nobody else.

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>>686486080
remember when the gooks decided to launch an unprovoked attack on US soil
remember when we gave them ample warning and notification that if they didn't surrender we'd glass them until they did
remember how it fucking worked
they forced us to drop those bombs
they knew what we were capable of and they ignored the warnings
they attacked us first

and if you wanna talk about war crimes lets talk about how they captured, butchered, and ate our soldiers. how they invaded china, raped, tortured, and murdered their way through Nanking and somehow got away with it.
lets talk about what they were doing to unborn children and infants
they got what they deserved

>>686487523

> Is it not a war crime to murder hundreds of thousands of civilians if you need to get to a military target?

Of course it is a war crime, but only if you lose that particular war with the enemy strong enough to enforce the law. It's silly asking these questions. The law only applies to the weak.

>>686487523
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/mp06.asp
read up

>>686487905

Don't get angry bro. The japs did war crimes, USA did war crimes. The japs lost and so they had to do the pennance, not USA. That's how international law works.

>>686488099

Yeah, it had military importance. We covered that.
But you didn't answer my question.
Go on then

The U.S won=U.S has no war crimes. Its quite simple rly

School these days is complete shit apparently. HISTORY LESSON::::

We estimated losing 100's of thousands of troops in a main land invasion of Japan. American lives saved vs a couple hundred thou japs. War ended best scenario played.

>>686487905

Remember when they attacked a MILITARY target?
lol come on, guy.

So it's ok to murder hundreds of thousands of civilians if you give fair warning?
So that logic stands is ISIS told emerica they would do the same if we didn't surrender?

And you'll have to explain how the japanese MILITARY committing war crimes means that what the americans did to CIVILIANS wasn't.

Give it your best shot

Rules and laws are just rules and laws if someone is there to enforce them.

The enforcers are the once with power to do so. Alas the same ones that can break them without consequences.

So kids, todays lesson: Don't follow rules and laws, never trust or follow authority.

If Nazi Germany had won the war nothing they would have done would be considered war crimes.
It's not fair, but what in life is?

Simple reasoning was it was for the greater good. Estimates for losses in a land invasion of Japan were over one million lives.

>>686488857

Yeah that's what they teach in american schools. Other people maintain that the japanese had already begun overtures of cessation through acceptable surrender by sending out diplomats.

It's not really relevant.
I mean if a warlord commits genocide so that they don't have to keep fighting a war for years on end at the cost of many lives, is that not a war crime?

>>686486970
>They were legit military targets due to dispersed Jap war industries.

>Learn 2 history, not emotions.

That's emotions talking. "We can't be the bad guys".

USA nuked hundreds of thousends of people because they saw a powerful enemy.

Compare to kicking the bigger guy in the balls to not get beaten up.

>>686489159

See

>>686489165

Anyone who would start a thread like this is probably a Eurocuck who would be speaking German right now if not for our "war crimes"

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>>686488857
So when someone invades the US, they should nuke us first to save the lives of their troops?

>>686489379

See


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall

>>686489194
>weak enemy willing to kill it's own people by the millions to avoid surrendering

>>686489393

lol as if the germans weren't all but beaten by the time the US entered the war. AS if the US had much at all to do with the german's defeat.

Learnt to history dumbshit

>>686487905
>they forced us to drop those bombs
Nah,
that was just laziness, cowardice, and being cheap.

I don't say it was a bad choice - but never forget it was laziness, cowardice, and cheapness. Be proud of that.

>>686489577

.....yeah, there would have been a big fight.
Already covered that.
Try again

>>686486647
We didnt win shit moron
England and Russia did. We were allies.
Stop perpetuating american exceptionalism

>>686486080
>Two hundred thousands of innocent die.

>We invade Japan and instead millions millions die of injury, starvation, disease, etc.

Pick one OP

>>686488423
oh so we have to play fair but they dont have to?
the gooks murdered plenty of civies too, but hey i guess the chinese arent worth as much as the japs huh?
tell me something pal, do you think that if the japanese had won, that when they invaded our country they wouldnt have done the same shit they did in china? it's very clear that they have no respect for the most basic human rights. so why should we have been merciful
give me a reason
>>686488862 see >>686488857

Every country bombed civilian targets with air raids during WW2 therefore everyone committee warcrimes.

>>686489570
honestly yeah unless they want to lose millions of troops

>>686489600
>kill it's own people by the millions

Do you mean kamikaze? Do you mean soldiers?
That's people sacrificing themselves for their country - bigger, better, prouder, and more dangerous than Americans - more dangerous.

So the US started to kill their families instead.

>>686488862
https://www.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/Treaty.xsp?documentId=AE2D398352C5B028C12563CD002D6B5C&action=openDocument

Text of the Fourth Geneva Convention, where specific provisions for civilians in combat zones are addressed.

According to the text, armies must take every precaution to minimize civilian casualties, but killing civilians in combat zones is not a war crime UNLESS the civilians themselves were targeted.

Whether that is right or not... I can only offer this question as an answer: will you not attack the infrastructure that supports your enemy's war machine, like industrial facilities and rail lines, because civilians will be affected? You effectively cripple your own ability to fight a war.

The difference between >>686487905 and American bombing of Japanese cities with devastating fire and atomic bombs is that the American targets were industrial centers, whereas that Chinese baby is not a military target no matter how you spin it.

>>686486080
In this thread butthurt weeaboos get mad at America for blowing up parts of their beloved new culture

>>686489628
Hitter was pissing on England's front lawn by the time we showed up faggot.

>>686490154
"Straif anything that moves."- Winston Churchill

>>686486080
ITT: pasta infants

>>686489637
do you even understand what war is?
Innocent people die every day
get over it

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ITT: 14-20 year old liberal faglord wrestles with another daily existential crisis stemming from spoon fed white guilt. Resonable anons will explain to him the terms of total war/ the state of nature in which we are all participants. Libfag will belch circular reasoning based entirely on white guilt/other emotions until thread 404's. Libfag is one day closer to total social cuck.

>>686490108

Oh my god you're right.

And if you get in a fight and the other guy starts stabbing bystanders to make you stop fighting then you should start stabbing some bystanders of your own.

You fucking halfwit.

>duh japaense was bad guys so it's ok if you butcher women and children

You're done.

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>>686490238
yeah and a lotta good that did em huh

>>686486080
We could've won the war without the bombs, but it would've cost tens of thousands of US soldier's lives. We originally intended to drop one on an uninhabited island as a shock and awe type of thing, but the weather was no good. If you want to talk war crimes, look at what the Japs did in ww2.

>>686490438
see >>686490249

>>686486080
You think nukes was our worst war crime? Try the Doolittle raids, or ask Dresden.

>>686489795

Again, greater good

The subjective argument of the losing side. " we were already going to surrender"

If so they would have surrendered after the first bombing, not the second, which was three days after the first

>>686490249

>every precaution to minimize civilian casualties

You'll have to explain how dropping a nuke falls under that category.

And sure that's provision is fine for "precision" bombing. But when you go into it with full knowledge that thousands of civilians are going to be killed that's a bit of a different situation, yes?

And if you remember, the geneva convention began after the second world war.
Maybe there was a reason for that....

>>686489570
sounds Fair and reasonable......but they will cry "war crimes" because they would be the victims

>>686490249
So a Tsar Bomb on Boston is OK because Boston Dynamics is there.

Good to know.

>>686490303

Sigh. Again, learn to history

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It's not a war crime when the "victims" aren't human.

>>686489947
England and Russian weren't even fighting Japan dumbass

>>686490919
>What is D-Day
You hadn't even stepped foot on the European mainland, dipshit.
>HURR DURR BIASED AMERICAN EDUCUCKSHUN, OUR EDUCATION ISN'T BIASED AT ALL

>>686490858
so again i'll say
it's okay for the japs to kill civilians and infants, but it's not okay for us to cripple their war effort
please tell me how the chinese baby in >>686487905 posed a threat
if they dont care about civies why the fuck should we

>>686489947
the allies won the war, including the americans. He was right. I get your point but don't be retarded.

>>686490367
So?
It was still laziness, cowardice, and cheapness.

You are defending it with "arguments" that have nothing to do with what the post you quoted.

Have a difficult time with being a lazy, cheap coward? And realizing that your country and people also are lazy, cheap cowards?

Technically, Japan and USA are still at war.

>>686490493
Enough to make the Americans piss their pants apparently.

>>686489947
You must be about 11

>>686491188
Would you rarher send thousand of US soldiers to their death, or kill some innocent Japs and end the war? Truman made the right call. When you chop wood, chips fly.

>>686491070
He said "the war" you stupid fuck.
Germany loses, therefore Japan loses

>>686491461
You must be about 11

>>686491188
Then tell us all please, how would you deal with an aggressor of that size, with their resources, with that level of determination? Throw more young men into a bloody stalemate? Give in and let your culture and country die?

Do yourself a favor anon, grow up.
You're a smart kid.

>>686490303
right..what a dumb yank....

America only turned up after the war was being won (after battle of Britain not before) and that is when the Germans were being pushed back.

America always turns up after all the hard work has been done to make out like they are the hero..... But bet you did not know American Banks Financed Hitler from the start or Coca Cola still sent and received both money and product from Germany or the Fact America helped Germany build their Navy both politically, financially and with materials

But that is not what you want to remember

>>686491562
>I don't say it was a bad choice - but never forget it was laziness, cowardice, and cheapness. Be proud of that.

>>686486080
I honestly think the bombs saved lives in the end.. Forgive me if I am wrong, but wasn't it MacArthur who wanted to do a massive mainland invasion of Japan? It would have been one of the world largest invasions ever in history. Millions of soldiers, bullets, and bombs for a war that was going on for too long already. American's were tired of fighting in Europe and wanted the war in the Pacific over asap too, consider this. Do you think Japan would have given out weapons just as Nazi Germany had done to it's citizens to "protect" their land from the foreign invaders? How many more would have died?

>>686489947
>Stop perpetuating american exceptionalism

America contributed virtually nothing of any consequence against Germany. The Russians won the war, with little help form anyone else. The atomic bombs were criminal acts by a late-arriving participant who knew they could not ultimately defeat the Japanese (and actually were more intended to intimidate Stalin). No invasion of Japan by the Americans was going to happen, because they knew it would fail, and fail badly.

>>686491705
Smart enough to read?
>I don't say it was a bad choice - but never forget it was laziness, cowardice, and cheapness. Be proud of that.

>>686486080
Nope. They bombed Pearl Harbor as a sneak attack and got what they deserved. It was a fast way to end the war and save American lives. They killed deliberately and without care our people. Civilians with woman and children were killed, they raped and killed missionaries that were on islands in the Philippians and that is just for starters. For a country that is supposedly hold honer in high esteem, they have no honer as far as I am concerned.

>>686491588
He didn't specify if it was the whole global conflict or just the war against Japan

No because it stopped many more from dying, including Americans. It was the morally correct option.

>>686486080
If we didn't do what we did the world would be run by Hitler.
You are dumb.

>>686490303
kek, really?
You realise that Britain was the strongest power in the world?
The British Empire was at its strongest after WW1 and was still pretty strong by the time WW2 started.
Despite this, the USA did help. But there main focus was Japan, obviously.
Don't inflate the US's contribution. It just takes away from their real achievements...
Ignoring the huge amount of war crimes committed, obviously.

>>686491800
Cant tell if you agree or not. Sounds like it. You are making my point.

>>686491722
>managed to fend of an assailant despite having most of your infrastructure crippled by infrastructure
>we totally had the resources to invade on our own guys, I swear, we were winning?
Deluded as fuck.
Also not denying the latter portion. You see a way to make a profit you take that god damn it, but that's a moral debate, not a factual one, unless you wanna be a whiny fucking cuck.

>>686491070
wow retard alert.. England was fighting the Japanese moron as was ALL pacific colonies...you are the dumbest fuck I have ever heard...seriously I am impressed at HOW retarded

>>686492248
>infrastructure crippled by air raids*

>>686491722
sure- typical brittard
i wonder what you don't want to remember?
something about hitler's sentimental delays?
something about little/no RAF at the time?
remember this:
you're only speaking english still bc king jerry was ethnically soft on anglos and gave you cunts a respite.

>>686491800
You know that the Soviet Union offered to help with Japan?
They would have successfully invaded Japan. Hell, they pretty much invaded all of Europe

>>686486080
Yes, they are. Then they won and pardoned themselves. That's war buddy. War isn't hell for anyone except the troops. Other than that it's just long range politics

>>686486080
who cares

they were dinks that attacked us and got what they deserved, just like the nazis.

>>686492149
idiot he talks about the japs now gtfo

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>>686486647
This.

>>686491309
wow retard.. you have gotten North Korea mixed up....Japan signed a declaration of surrender...MORON

Korean war on the other hand is still in a cease fire..

LEARN THE FACTS DUMBASS

>>686491188
yeah but we're still #1 baby

>>686492211
Actually Brittan was being bombed by Germany when the US entered the war. We did not focus on Japan until after the defeat of Germany. Good god what fucked up shit history guessing are they teaching you in school.

>>686490858
Yes, I understand the Geneva Conventions are a response to the tactics practiced during WWII. I also understand that the U.S. is one of the countries that never ratified the Fourth Geneva Convention. Nevertheless, this is how the nations of the world now regard warfare. The text essentially sanctions bombing civilian centers if it is done for the purpose of attacking military targets (insurgents holed up in a city block, for example, or factories producing weapons and ammunition).

Before the Geneva Conventions it was basically a free-for-all, and that's how they fought the wars. Until the First World War you couldn't bring your weapons to attack large civilians centers unless it was a siege, and the Nazis were the first to bomb civilian centers with the aim of breaking the people's will to fight.

Dropping a nuke makes a lot of sense from a strategic point because you can completely destroy industrial infrastructure with relatively minimal effort (one bomb from one plane, as opposed to hundreds of bombs from dozens of planes).

And as you point out, specific provisions against such tactics were taken in direct response to their use in the war, including limitations on use of nuclear weapons, but note that the Geneva Conventions do not strictly forbids targeting of civilians centers because everyone understands it would severely limit their ability to fight wars.

Can anyone tell me why japan attacked pearl harbor in the first place?

>>686492560
Lollll americuck detected

>>686491834
Fucking

What the fuck

Can you read?
People are clearly asking you what method would have been better. Reiterating what you said over and over is not an acceptable answer.

What method would have been better to end the war as effectively as dropping bombs did.

Back your shit up faggot

>>686489570
Umm if you are killing 1/5 the amount that would die if you directly invaded... Yes

>>686492149
> the world would be run by Hitler

Another stupid yank. By the time the Amis could be bothered to show up, Hitler was already doomed. The only thing, and I do mean ONLY thing the Americans accomplished in Europe was in helping preventing the Red Army from liberating all of it. Even then, their incompetence nearly lost the war in the Western front on more than one occasion in 1944.

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>>686491834
>not smart enough to green text properly

Lazy? Can you even begin to comprehend the amount of resource that had to go into the Manhattan Project? During a time a war no less.
Cheap? See above.
Cowardice? Implying that it's bravery and not insanity to draft a third of your labor force, real fucking people who, mind you, 4 years earlier were under a government who wanted NOTHING to do with war and took every reasonable action to avoid it?!
What fucking people have you been talking to? Or are you just so determined to hate your past that you're willing to ignore the fact there is reason behind all actions?

>>686489194
>Compare to kicking a guy in the nuts
You know, if some crazy fuck came at me screaming about how he was gonna march his boots all over my face, I think a boot to the nuts is fair play.

>>686491722
I am British.
The Americans joined the war in 1941, two years after the start, but still 4 years before the end.
Don't inflate Britains role in the war. It is stupid when Americans do it, and t is stupid when you do it.

Why do you think America never ratified the treaty of Rome and isn't part of the ICC

>>686492837

An American-led oil embargo. Their intent was to knock out the American navy so it could not interfere in their plans to capture the oil fields in the Dutch East Indies.

>>686489194
Are you fucking retarded? We nuked them because it would have an estimated millions of lives not because they were more powerful than us (they weren't anyway)

>>686492878
You can't read can you.

Do you wan't a more effective method or do you wan't a less lazy, coward, and cheap one?

You can't have both in this case with hindsight.

>>686492851
>lol

Facebook is more suited for your opinion, nobody cares about gooks dying 70 plus years ago.

>>686489637
>laziness, cowardice, and cheapness.
and i suppose conducting deep mining operations with spoons is as well.
Exerting more effort, spending more money, and getting more people killed are not worthwhile goals to be pursued.

>>686490919
Look it up dude before the US and Russia stepped in England was right on the verge of losing the war.

>>686492998
You can be the Defender of Cowardice, nothing wrong with that so I'm not going to argue against that.

>>686489628
Yeah naw. Both Russia and Britain were on the back fucking foot against the Germans when the US entered. I won't claim we came in on a white horse and saved the day, but American industrial production outstripped the Germans by a fuckton. Go look at the amount of material we sent the Russians. They won their country back with their own blood, and for that they are commended. But they did it riding in American transports, eating American food, shooting American bullets. It was a joint effort dude. Any one of the three Allies falling could have meant the whole thing went tits up.

>>686492792
That is true, my bad.
My other points are still valid, though.
Britain was only being bombed because the rest of Europe sucked.
The USA played a large role, I wont deny that.
But to say they won the war, is just inaccurate

>>686486080
go fuck yourself kid. your whole post shows your immaturity.

>>686490238
No.
During the battle for Okinawa the Japanese soldiers lied to the Japanese civilians that the Americans were planning to commit horrible atrocities against them and forced them to commit mass suicide by jumping off cliffs. Imagine that throughout the whole country.

>>686491341
More like Europeans*

Remember that time Japan raped all of Asia with other axis powers and literally fucked China? No? Go back to school you uneducated nigger, and it was more like 80,000, although radiation poisoning killed thousands more. Chernobyl killed 10x more.

Quick question here:

Who here has relatives that participated in ww2 in the Pacific theater.

Me: 1 on iwo jima and 1 in the Philippines

>>686491130
Greece, Italy, France, these are all not European mainland?

>>686493653
Only hicks claim that shit. It was a joint effort and Russia wouldn't have faired so well had Germany not been fighting on technically three fronts due to gayfuck Italy being worthless.

>>686491722
The battle of Britain would been almost a guaranteed loss without the US's money and supplies.... while they weren't there directly, you are an idiot if you don't give them some credit.

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>>686493575
No big boy. Use your words! This ain't the sandbox, explain to me the holes in my logic or know forever your perception is a lie and you knowingly do nothing to change it.

>>686493002
Agreed, I would also in some situations. And maybe I would try to defend my honor and hide my cowardice by lying to myself and others afterwards like the people in this thread.

>>686493323
Nope on the question and nope on your statement.

>>686493890
>reconaissance
>secure military foothold
No

>>686492485
.You know that the Soviet Union offered to help with Japan?

Stalin originally agreed to assist against Japan at Yalta, "3 or 4 months after the defeat of Germany."

>They would have successfully invaded Japan.

They had little trouble with the Japanese in Manchuria and Korea, and the real reason Japan agreed to surrender was their fear of the Red Army, not of anything the Americans might do. The atom bombs had very little to do with it.

>>686493679
It wasn't just one country that won it was the compilation of the allies that won the war.

>>686491800
So basically you think the US should have invaded the mainland with overall casualties on both sides equaling an estimated 6 million+ instead of just killed 200 thousand and be done with it. Holy fuck you are stupid.

>>686486080
Isn't anything having to do with war a crime in general?

>>686494260
lol revisionism.
okay man.

>>686491860
Not just American lives but it also saved Japanese lives.

>>686493906
Fucking exactly. It's all a bunch of Revisonists who want to rewrite everything so Their dick looks like the biggest. The US played a huge part in the allied victory. We supplied Britain through the battle of the Atlantic, we supplied the Russians, we bombed the living fuck out if Everything, and we had boots on the ground in about every theater of the war, the Russian front being the big exception.

>>686492211
Is British education this bad?

>>686494260
then why did MacArthur accept the Japanese surrender exactly and not some Rusky?

>>686494392
yes very true because their mindset was at the time to fight until the last.

>>686493486
Read the next sentence as well will you.

This thread really piss me off about the Twitter generation more then usual. Jesus Christ the attention span. I think you're the fifth in this thread.

>>686493775
Dead in Hiroshima - 66,000
Dead in Nagasaki - 39,000
Dead in Chernobyl - 40,000 (Cancer) (Piss poor guess. Hard to tell)
Source:
http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/MED/med_chp10.shtml

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/explainer/2013/04/chernobyl_death_toll_how_many_cancer_cases_are_caused_by_low_level_radiation.html

>>686492301
Not like the Pacific colonies contributed more than like 5%

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>>686493922
>a guaranteed loss without the US's money and supplies...

What "money and supplies"? What (very) little the USA supplied to Britain was "lend/lease", and expected to be returned or paid for later. Some "ally".

>>686494260
Okay...
So you agree?

>>686494014
>cowardice
That's not cowardice Anon. It's Prudence. If the US didn't have the bomb we would have done it the hard way. If you have a superior weapon than your foes it is foolish to not use it.

>>686490108
autism levels increasing

>>686494274
That is what I am saying

>>686494597
I have a few links that say 1mil+ due to cancer, I was exaggerating to prove a point.

>>686486080
today the japs are awesome but back then we needed to nuke them. they would fight to the end and we gave the citizens plenty of warning before each nuke to get out of town. get over youself, sometimes you have to do bad things to have a positive net result. fucking pussy; read a book you bitch.

>>686494014
How do you figure? The Japanese had lots of honor and we're ruthless. They wouldn't surrender easily. A massive invasion of the homeland plus tons of bombing would have been needed to beat them others wises. Almost every expert puts the estimated death count for something like that at 1million +

>>686494554
Efficiency and prudence are not the same as laziness and cowardice, the former are virtues, the latter are vices, learn to use words correctly with their precise definitions before you go about complaining about "the Twitter generation"
also
>then

>>686492301
>England was fighting the Japanese moron as was ALL pacific colonies...

England, Australia and New Zealand did more of the (effective) fighting, except for a few foolish and ultimately pointless bloodbaths by the US Marines.

>>686494260
Actually it the the fear of more atomic bombs being dropped on them that made them shit rice bricks and caused them to surrender. Russia was still in the recovery process. They did not expect Germany to turn on then because they were on Hitlers side at the beginning.

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>>686494482
Well where am I wrong
(Apart from the focus on Japan thing)

>>686494980
God what a shit show that would have been. Dense forests, bunch of fucking mountains. God it would have been Veitnam turned up to 11.

>>686493715
Well that's war for you, and ruling in general.
You love your country based on lies.

>>686493994
>big boy
Thanks, how did you know?

>>686494752
>That's not cowardice Anon. It's Prudence
Tomatoe Tomato
If I kill the child of the bigger guy I don't like to make him depressed enough to stop caring about anything. Some would call it cowardice to not attack the big guy himself, some would call it prudence

>>686494789
m just agreeing with you. :)

>>686494014
>Having better weapons than your enemy and using them makes you a coward.

Top Kek

>>686494497

It was another thing agreed to at Yalta. It was all for show. The Japanese knew it, too.

>>686486080
Americans are all fucking morons and daddy trump is the father desu

>>686495336
Obvious bait

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>>686495174
>implying we hadn't been fighting tooth and nail with the big guy already.

Ever hear of Midway? Where the US destroyed the Japanese fleet in a direct engagement? Yeah, that big guy was beaten back to his cave, and we were smart enough to chuck a few hefty bombs in first. Sure. Cowardice. Big words from a man who's never seen a war like WWII.

Hush always the same shit... War was always the same through the whole history of mankind. Just a bunch of jerks killing each other, the innocent and the environment for their small minded ideas.

you don't build a new toy, and then not use it

i bet even the scientists were curious/desperate to see what they had actually achieved and measure the outcome in the real world

>>686489045
Nothing they did were war crimes. They were doing the world a favor, we just haven't realized it yet.

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This whole thread is cancer.

>>686495111
> Russia was still in the recovery process.

"Recovering" while sweeping the Japanese aside in Manchuria and Korea. Do they not even teach history in the USA? Apparently not.

Small wonder that American students score the lowest of any industrialised nation.

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>>686486080
I love being a Canadian.

>>686495742
picking up a piece of paper off the floor does not constitute cleaning the whole building.

>>686495777
Shut up Canada, most of the world isn't even sure you exist.
>jk, I love my neighbors

>>686495578
>tips fedora

>>686495777
My great uncle was a member of the Canada/US First Special Forces.

>>686487905
>they forced us to drop those bombs
Really? The children and civilians forced the U.S. to murder hundreds of thousands?

>>686495742
What country doesn't have people as stupid as so called 'americans'
>inb4 england

>>686495963
kek.
Technically it does. If that is the last piece to clear up, then you have successfully cleaned the building.

To Japan, don't start nothin, won't be nothin. Don't poke the sleeping giant.

>>686495566

>Ever hear of Midway?

No ships ever fired on each other, and the American victory was as much a matter of dumb luck as anything else (clever signals intelligence was a big help). Not exactly "taking on the big guy" directly (like invading the Japanese home islands).

>>686495742
lol of course the Russian invasion of Manchuria was an important factor, but the idea that the Japanese just shrugged off two of their cities being incinerated is laughable.
Remember now, the Japanese high command almost instituted a coup of the emperor to avoid surrendering, that's how die-hard the military establishment was on continuing the fight.

>>686496258
Yes they did. It was either that or kill every jap on their islands. so yes they did.

>>686496335
See
>>686495777
Canadians have it down

>>686496376
Sure it does, you're an idiot if you don't think luck is important in war. Shit, that's all War is, determining who the lucky ones are.

>>686494392
maybe, counting both bombings about 220,000 Japanese civilians died.

>>686496464
>they were holding hostages
>so I just shot the hostages
Yeah, I'm sure you would feel the same way if this happened in the U.S.

>>686489947
Such good b8. The Luftwaffe were pounding London up the ass with a Jonah Falcon cock until the ol Yanks came to save the day

>>686496336
After someone else did all the work? LOL Sounds like a drams queen. The cheer leaders need to get Superbowl rings for winning the game too LOL.

Kids and neckbeards arguing about something they would never be able handle. Kek!

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>>686486080
Please go to en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Malia_Bouattia&action=edit&oldid=721984746 and click "Save page."

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>>686486080
they are terrorist and war criminals, biggest criminals of the world, but they are also the "world police" no one can do anything to them, if you want to punish them you have to win a war to them and in order to do that you would have to become the worlds biggest terrorist and war criminal. pic not related

>>686496614
An invasion of the homeland would likely have been 1 million+ because the mindset they had at the time was fight to the last man and the whole honor thing.

>>686496258
*kill

>>686496708
Yeah nah. American here, the Brits destroyed your precious Luftwaffe all on their own with nothing but balls and a Spitfire
>captcha is tea
Jolly good.

Stupid Liberals. Read A History Book. We Didn't Want to Be In Either WWI Or WWII. We Were Begged By The Rest Of The World And Japan Attacked Us Causing Us To Enter The War. You Do Know That, Right. It's Called Pearl Harbor. Well I'm Sure You Can't Read, So Watch The Movie. And Dropping The Bomb Ended The War. If You Read What Was Projected But I'm Sure You Won't Because It's Not On Facebook Where You Get Your Facts, The War Would Have Gone On For Years, Some Saying Even A Decade. We Saved Millions Of Lives By Stopping The War. But I'm Sure You Don't Get It Because You're Probably From One Of Those Countries That Started One Of Those Wars. It's So Sad that You Spend All Your Time On The Internet With Access To The Worlds Libraries and You Don't Know Shit.

>>686487905
>the gooks
>we
>us
>they
Nice collectivism there, stalin.

>>686496388

> Japanese just shrugged off two of their cities being incinerated is laughable.

The Japanese government had pretty much done just that. The firebombings of Tokyo, Yokohama, Kobe and at least a half-dozen others (which killed far more civilians than did the atom bombs) had no effect on their willingness to continue to resist.

The alternatives to dropping the bomb were:
1) Continue blockade of Japan, preventing any type of fuel or food to be shipped to Japan. Use undisputed air superiority to drop herbicide on race paddies. Starve them out. Millions starve to death (Preferable, because least risk to US servicemen),or
2) Invade, killing millions of Japanese, and suffering huge casualties.
Show of overwhelming killing power obvious least destructive to Japanese and Americans.
Liberals. Wrong about everything. Because Liberalism is a mental illness.

>>686496901
Well, who's to say that they would actually have had fought to the last man? I personally think it's possible that idea that they would have fought to the last man was mostly American war propaganda. But who knows.

>>686496661
maybe I would if we were sneaky pieces of shit that pulled a sneak attack on them. They got what they deserved. Their propaganda had their civilians believing the US were going to eat their children and rape all the women before we killed them. Just like they actually did in china.

When you're support and countries commiting war crimes and fucking refuse to give up even after they have been defeated

>>686497022
>Dropping The Bomb Ended The War
Kek, no, japanese defeat was inminent either way.
Your government just wanted to make a show of strength and then fed you bullshit to justify it.

>>686497022
>>686497231
Why do you fucks keep being up Liberals? I'm a fucking lefty and I know damn well those bombs were the best idea in a bad situation. Stop looking for enemies in your own countries.