>>686193922
jenner isnt a tranny she is a trainwreck and an attention whore. i've been with real ones who are hotter and cooler than real girls

Yes. They are human debris.

>>686193922
So its like this.

Imagine a woman, with the mind of a man, but with the finesse and delicacy of a woman, but with the straight-forwardness of a man who knows what men like.

Fuck women.

>>686194211
lol classifying jenner as a she he is a mental case if they would stop closing up mental hospitals the majority of these mental cases would be under medical treatment instead of running around in our society.

Well I only know one tranny in person, ftm. Cool dude, knew them since elementary school, was basically a mega lesbian since kindergarten so not a big surprise

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>>686193922
they are just disgusting sluts

>>686193922
You really don't know how many trannies you know in real life. You just assume that you can identify what peoples' genitals look like based on what the rest of them looks like. Protip: you can't.

I work for an oral diagnostics biotech company, one of our products was an oral rapid assay hiv test (also could test for most drugs as well).
As part of that job, I had to interact with hundreds of paid subjects, ranging from low risk to high risk (note that high risk is defined as having done anything with a dude, period, also obviously sharing needles).
Consequently i interacted with lots of "normal" people but also hundreds of gay dudes, many of which were transexual in some shape or form. Without exception, all of the trannies were clearly mentally unstable and most were extremely loud and ridiculously obnoxious.
It's just my opinion, and clearly not enough data to make any real point, but like I said - every single tranny i met was fucking crazy somehow, some REALLY crazy. This was years ago and I'm quite certain many of them are dead now either from drugs or offing themselves.

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>>686193922
>vehicular manslaughter
>removed from show that makes him money
>court case
>transition
>"hero"
>own show worths millions
>novelty wears off
>considering transitioning back

>>686195548
Your subset includes only the cross-section of people who are both transgendered and low-income enough to participate in a paid study. You are very wise to not draw any sweeping conclusions from this data.

>>686193922
Some are. Some aren't. I know one called Rachel. I walk my dog with her and her dog each day.

She's really nice and doesn't make a big exhibition about herself she's like "Yeah I'm trans and?" none of that "OMG I'M SUCH A SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE!11 <3" mentality.

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>>686193922

Know a F2M transexual, was a buddy of mine back when he was a butch lesbian.
Fun to be around, never bitching about anything.
Could drink like a true scotsman.

Had trap-gf 2 years ago, wasn't a lot like a female tbh. A lot more sex drive, great blowjobs, a little less emotionality. No daddy issues.

I know 3 irl and they all fucked up af

I met a trap on 4chan once and basically she would just hold giant skype group chats with all these random dudes. She was cool and we talked a lot privately, but I bailed cuz of all the other dudes hanging around all the time. She seemed really slutty.

I'm a MTF, feel free to ask me anything if you feel like it.
But kind of, honestly. Stereotypes do exist for a reason, but you can't always rely on them because people are so diverse.
I don't go into any conversation with the aim of making people think a specific way, and if my friends refer to me as a guy I let it slide without throwing a fit, because I realize it's going to take some getting used to on their part.
My coworkers had a bunch of questions and were afraid of offending me because of what they see on TV, which I honestly thought was stupid. I just let them answer whatever.

However, since I've started transitioning, I've went to a transgender group just to meet 'likeminded' people. Didn't quite work out too well. Everyone else in the group (6) got extremely offended easily by shit and there was three of them who stories of having to dump friends because 'they just dont understand' (Which, you really can't expect everyone to).
The others of the group where also obviously attention whores and expected people to bend over backwards to them, and don't get me started on the 'gender fluid' types. It's astonishing.

But yeah, I can go more in depth with stuff if anyone wants me to. But remember what I said about stereotypes above as a rule of the thumb.
I really don't feel like I fit into the stereotype, but I can't see myself from the outside, so..

>>686196034
Aww that's nice. All the ones I've seen are like the mentality you mentioned.

>>686193922
I know one, he asked to his parents to get his MTF surgery but his parents refused to help him to become a degenerate, he dropped out of college and mutilated his penis, he has been taking queer pills for the past 2 years but no visible results whatsoever, and also has lots of really creepy friends, one of them was in jail for molesting a 13 years old boy in a public bathroom.

>>686196716

As you're transitioning, you should be aware that the rules for females now also apply to you.
While I'm not implying that you should GTFO if you're not showing tits, some kind of proof that you're not some deluded neckbeard would be great.

Also, re:specialsnowflakebrigade: In my experience, F2M-people are usually a lot more pleasant than M2F-people. Depends where you are, though - if you're from the US, you're shit outta luck.

>>686193922
We're a wreck

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>>686197222
My tits are small, and I'm also rather self conscious. I'd much rather not. Sorry.
Hope this works as proof though, a quick google will tell you what the medications are (The Spiro is a testosterone blocker. estradoil is estrogen).

And yeah, sadly, I'm in the US.

>>686193922
I know a few trannies IRL. Most of them are no different from that wreck Bruce. But there are a few who just do their own thing and go on with their lives as anyone else is.

Yes in one way or another
The ones that seem chill and cool as fuck on the surface are actually the most mental deep down, and will hurt you without thinking twice

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>>686199424
>cool as fuck on the surface are actually the most mental deep down, and will hurt you without thinking twice
Perhaps the same could be said of all people.

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>>686198642

That's fine. I haven't talked about this with the transpeople I know, but you seem eager.

Before you started transitioning, was becoming a woman just a strong desire or did you feel actual dysphoria?

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>>686193922
Absolutely not, but there are certainly lots of trans girls with less than desirable personalities.

People always tell me I'm nice so I hope that I really am a nice person. Very mentally sound and not dramatic

>>686200059
I had dysphoria. When I turned 17 I got into a relationship that lasted until I turned 24, I felt like I was, or shouldve been a woman the entire time, which caused some hiccups in the relationship regardless of how much I tried to ignore it.
Hiccups included erectile dysfunction. Even when extremely turned on, the second I realize I have a dick or that I need to use it, it got soft. Killed our sex lives, as I'm sure you could imagine.
Also hated getting complements about what masculine features I had from my partner. When I looked at myself, mirror or regardless, I'd feel extreme disgust.

I still feel that way, but since I've started estrogen, I can ignore it easier. I feel quite a bit more at least. Realistically, I'm not sure how much of it is placebo, but I also heard that blocking testosterone from your body can make you feel generally more 'at ease', so it could be that as well.

I'm eager to answer questions and help others become aware that not all of us are complete dipshits. My dating pool is tiny as fuck because of it and it's a huge downer.

Damn /b/ is fast today.
Bump.

>>686200837
Know this story whole heartedly

>>686195524
Protip: you're delusional.

>>686200837

Ah. That seems like a hassle. That sounds like you're going for the whole package, meaning operative removal of testicals and dick.

The aforementioned F2M I know has reached critical mass with hormones and is currently researching the different possibilities to "emulate" a dick. Most ways to do that involve a pump to the flesh tube hard. That seems like a bummer.

How's your outlook an artificial pussy - is there a chance to make it work properly - and is it even affordable?

>>686201547
If you're >>686200404 , a timestamped picture would be appreciated.

>>686193922
The only ones I saw were in the Bois de Boulogne and they sucked dick for a living, so I guess they're quite fucked up

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>>686201684
I only posted the one with my face, give me a sec and i'll give you something cray cray

Bad lighting makes me look super tired and old :(

>>686201550
Keep thinking that, anon. It's much easier that way.

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>>686200837
where do people who want to date trans people can meet them??? there are no apps or places where you can chat/meet with trans people only whore sites escorts and porn i can't even google transgender and not get shit ton of porn in replay sucks i'd really like to try to date trans women

>>686199729
What is a Tran?
A miserable little pile of secrets

>>686194211
so in order for someone to be a tranny she has to be hot? I'm triggered as fuck man.

>>686194211
>she
>her

>>686201937

You seem to pass pretty well, good on you!
What's your take on the questions posted in >>686201568 ?

What's your sexual preference, btw? Most M2F I have heard of prefer men. Your compatriot up there complained about the size of her dating circle, how are you doing in that regard?

>>686193922
yah, pretty much

>>686202206
no chil all you need is someone to love you

>>686201937
i think id hit it

>>686201547
I'm sorry that you do. Shit sucks.

>>686201568
Oddly enough, my healthcare covers the surgery. I do want to get it, but I kinda want to wait until it's a little less barbaric.Or at least a bit more functional.
Right now, if I got the surgery done, I'd have no control over muscles, so how loose/tight I was wouldn't be in my control. It also isn't self lubricating. I'd still produce that 'precum liquid', but it wouldn't be enough lubrication since it's so little.
So as much as I hate my dick, it's going to have to stay until there is some alternative.
F2M's have it worse though in that regard, like you mentioned. It's easier to dig a hole then to build a mountain, as I heard someone say once.
Heres hoping for medical advancements in the transsexual fields soon.

I also plan on getting some kind of facial surgery someday. Something to at least help my jawline. I at least halfway pass with only 2 months of hormones, so I have hope for myself, but since I'm starting at 24, I can't imagine it'll just work. I don't think I'm that lucky.
Not sure how much it'd cost, but I can't really save up money right now anyway, nor do I have anyone to support me financially, so I figure I'll wait for a better opportunity before I really look into it.

Of course, there is also the question of rather or not I'll actually feel better when all this is done.
I'd much rather try and fail, than not try at all though.

>>686201937
Well, this should be interesting.

>>686195524
It's obvious when they are trannies or not especially in real life.

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>>686201568
I plan on keeping my dick forever, but i want to get my testicles removed for several reasons to further my transition mentally and physically.

There are already fake weenurs out there with those pumps, they're usually controlled by little squeeezy balls in their.... um balls, and the other "testicle" is a pressure release. The emulations for penis and vagina in transsexuals is not too advanced. Its amazing what they can do but there are lots of flaws.

Lots of trans girls don't feel like a girl unless they actually get a vagina. I feel like a girl without one and live day to day as a girl. Its all very subjective and based upon personal lifestyles.

>>686195524
You could but it's impolite to tell them.

>>686202893
Also I'm in a robe, which is why it looks weird
and room is messy, gotta clean up from house chores still

>>686202187
Your words are as empty as your soul!

>>686202176
Not sure, to be honest. Sorry that I can't give advice here.
Although I'm open to a relationship, I'm 'extremely' picky with people since my ex set a extremely high standard that I refuse to tone down (My own sickness, admittedly), so I haven't been looking at what options I have for dating to even know what to suggest.
I'm sorry anon.

>>686202893
I'm jealous. How long have you been on HRT? If I may ask.

>>686202893
Nice cat tho, looks chillen

>>686193922
real life trannies are not fuckable unless you're really lucky. MTF trans usually come out hilariously fucked up
source: first hand experience

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I know a transgender. Born as a female, identifies as male. I consider him one of my bros. He's pretty cool, definitely not one of those Tumblr ones. So, not every tranny is fucked up.

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>>686203284
For years, maybe like 4ish? or 5, I don't even know. These were my meds >>686202128
I started in my mid 20's so it wasnt the best as far as a transition goes but I'll take what I can get. Maybe get FFS someday if i can ever afford it.

>>686203349
All my cats are muh bebbies, they're always chillen :)

>tiny shitty tranny bewbs for you all since I'm a gross attention whore

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>>686201937
>>686198642
Tits or GTFO

Betty head has spoken

>>686202750
If there was a way to regrow my body, but with an altered sex - and just move over my brain, I'd probably do it.
I'd still very much miss my dick, though.
That isn't a question of dysphoria though, but of aesthetics vs. self-loathing.

There's the argument that insurances shouldn't pay for surgeries because it's by no means a safe way to treat the "issue" - and since the suicide rate among transpeople is even bigger than among men, I'm not entirely sure what to make of it.
It seems like a smart idea to let them "figure out the bugs" before actually committing to an operation.

>>686202893
Don't worry about the pictures. I appreciate the tits though. I understand your sentiment of wanting to keep the dick.

>>686202867
Think about this: you see lots of people. You categorize them into two types: male and female. You assume you're really good at this because we cover our genitals and you have no genuine feedback on your predictive abilities. If you were wrong, you would literally never know. Statistically, there are many more people than you think whose genitals don't match your expectations, but you can't tell. Look at ladyboy/trap porn, and imagine these people walking around. You would never know. They only become "trannies" to you when they have very defined features that don't match up with the gender role they appear to fall into. It's not some conspiracy, it's fucking math.
Why do people not understand this?

>>686193922
Female-to-male (aka transmen) tend to be cool

Male-to-female (aka transwomen) tend to be horrible and sluts

>>686203572
What is the hormone therapy like? Is it hard on your emotions or anything? I can't really imagine going through it so

>>686203572
You're starting to look uglier.

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>>686203637
Vape Nation homie g swagalicious

I have a couple of tranny friends. One is a biological "boy" who is very feminine looking, calls herself by the name of Devon.

I also have a friend of mine with a partner that is trans, who is also a biological dude, called Seb, and doesn't identify as either male or female. Seb lives very far away, and is just like any other dude besides likes to put on make-up. Devon is a bit more though, being full-on with dresses, make-up and bathbombs pretty much.

They are quite normal tbh. Seb is really cool, I play Dota 2 with Seb sometimes. Smokes weed, drink and is generally awesome to hang with.

Devon on the other hand is an annoying, hyperactive weeabo, so I dislike her for other reasons than being transexual.

All in all, it's pretty chill. I don't mind having trans people as friends, as long as they don't become heterophobes (I know someone who is a heterophobe as a joke but still, really annoying and uncalled for)

>>686203572
I can see your stubble growing.

>>686203572
You look really good for starting at mid 20's. You give me hope. Thank you.

>>686203716
Honestly, I was surprised to find out the surgery was covered. A lot of people would also argue it's just a cosmetic surgery. I'm grateful it is though, less stress on my part.
Some logic to it though, is that it might just cost more to do with transgenders suicidalness and problematic tendencies than it does just to give them the surgery and be done with it, since it does help a lot of transgenders at least.
Just rambling at this point though.

>>686203572
Ultra manly, would not fuck.

>>686203572
why is your face so bony and mannish?

>>686203913
i fucking hate that think, girls are cool as girls they are sweet and nice loving creatures while man are shits rapist and rest, and they even in this thing man are looked as bad side as sluts and horrible creatures come the fuck on ,,,,, aint even funny no more

>>686203572
Nasty titties put your shirt back on.

>>686199729
No

>>686204123
Thanks dude :)

>>686204052
Its rough to adapt to it but you do just that, adapt. Emotional stability is definitely affected by hormones but you don't lose control, you just have to figure out to cope and to learn more about your emotions and what influences them to what extent.

>>686204203
not stubble, lighting, plus blush doesnt help with making my cheeks pinker than the rest. But thanks

>>686204224
True. I think it'd be great if you and titty-chan up there could somehow stay in contact - you both seem like pleasant and well-spoken people.

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>>686204176
2manly4me

>>686193922
I know two in real life; they're pretty cool actually. I know another one on FB, she's a little batty but that's just because she shares lots of political stories lately, gee I wonder why.

>in the media and on Tumblr?
no wonder you think they're crazy. You can find people who think they're trans-Klingons on Tumblr, and you don't get media coverage unless you're screaming your fool head off.

>>686205110
agree, busted still i'd fuck you ;)

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>>686193922
I miss the old days when crazy folks just thought they were Napoleon.

>>686204466
I'm glad you think so. Thank you.

>>686205372
I'm currently transitioning into napoleon

>>686205565
Kek!!

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>>686205110
>>686205232
Cool

and?

>interesting the number of posters stays the same with the insults, why could that possibly be?

>>686203572
is too bad they didn't grow much. boobs are something the reptilian brain can latch onto.

my friend went from "maybe" to "yes" when I noticed them...

>686205742
Don't get mad I'll still fuck you and suck your dick.

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>>686205821
They were bigger but I lost a bunch of weight and they kinda left along with it. I want implants one day.

>>686205382

You're welcome.

>>686205996
That's a rather flattering picture. How tall are you?

>>686194878
this sounds amazing

>>686205742
They also all use the same punctuation. Just a note.

Out of curiosity, have you looked into developing milk glands more to help with breast development? If so, what as the outcome of the idea for you?
I'm thinking of doing that soon.

>>686206244
I take progesterone to help, its not proven to help really but it might influence breast growth.

I used to be able to lactate like 8 drops of a clearish liquid from my nipples if i squeezed my bewbs, but not in a very long time. Wasn't anything like bacteria or anything gross.

I don't know much about developing milk glands but maybe i'll have to check it out :)

>>686193922
>tfw you will never fuck caitlyn
;_;

>>686206476
I've started leaking a clearish liquid as well since about a week ago (Again, been on HRT for 2 months). Apparently it's from the glands 'turning on' in a sense from the estrogen.
To actually produce milk I'll need to work on it a bit more though.

But yeah, just something to look into. I've been researching a lot because I don't want tiny breasts forever ;_;

>>686194346
>implying they're human

>>686194211
>She
>>686193922
I know one, he's pretty okay because he doesn't tell everyone about it and only sometimes wears girl clothes at home

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>>686193922
Psychologically speaking trannies are sick with either body disphoria or body dismorphia

Its a disease we allow to exist because we as a culture are trying to make up for the days when we used to drag them behind cars "in God's name"

Not our fault God is a vicious cunt, its our ancestors fault for listening to the fucker.

We should treat their psychosis with therapy rather than indulge and feed their delusion. They would be much happier.

This shows due to how likely they are to commit suicide after transitioning because the process of transitioning men to women (the majority by 300% of cases) is incredibly difficult and imperfect.

if you like trannies you are a fag. period.

>>686193922
I live with a MtF. She is cool. Very motivated to make something of her life. The only fault I can see is her blind obedience to the liberal cause.

>>686205996
actually the friend I was talking about, is kind of fattening up on purpose to try to make the tits bigger. I think that's a bad long-term idea, but whatever... She doesn't date men. Too bad because she got the SRS too– tbh I'm not thrilled with the idea of a giant cock staring back at me.

...which is too bad, because I think the other one I know might like me. and, she's actually objectively better in most metrics – happier, smarter, has really groovy hobbies, and a great job that has her traveling a lot. But, she doesn't really "read" – she's got a chin you could chop a tree down with. So, my dick is not interested, but my brain is yelling at my dick saying "YOU FOOL!" though it might just be my imagination and she just might be more kind and polite than all the cis women that keep me at arms length all the time.

>>686193922
No, they're much much worse.

>>686193922
I'm friends with a male to female transsexual. She's (he's) just the same as the average joe

>>686193922
Most trannies I know irl are just like hyper-femme gay guys

>>686193922
No.

>>686206972
>We should treat their psychosis with therapy rather than indulge and feed their delusion.
Fucking this, but the drug industry makes more money by indulging their fantasies with the added bonus of making them look 'progressive' for accepting their illness.

>>686207202
protip: just say "she". it doesn't mean you have to fuck her.

I have one friend who insists on misgendering Jenner because she's pissed off at the vehicular manslaughter ... well, that's dumb. lots of celebrities have killed people with cars. cars are giant death machines, and it's really easy to accidentally take a life with one.

>>686206972
you would probably make more sense if you dropped the infantile god beliefs etc. from that screed

>>686207088
There are lots of heavy trans girls who have big breasts, but they are heavy and thats just not idea for any girl.
Then there are super skinny trans girls with like 0 tits.
Its soooo rare to find a normal weight trans girl with normal tits.

But again, you get what you get. Lifes not fair or else i'd have been born a girl in the first place.

Also I know I have a pretty bad chin/jaw, I hope to get it fixed someday but its nothing that I would ever hide in my room because of. I live a happy life going into the public each day as what I am.

Whats the most important thing i think for a trans girl, is to NOT focus their entire life around it. I'm trans, but thats only a tiny part of what makes me.

>>686207554
That's pretty much the reason people used to beat, murder, and oddly enough rape trannies.

Fucking Yaweh worshippers.

>>686207330
i dunno, has it ever been cured with therapy?

because gender identity is in a crazy-ancient part of the brain. That's a ROM chip in there. You can't fix that bug with a software patch. I can totally believe it to be easier to carve one's own body into a different shape, than to reach into your brain and toggle that tiny switch without destroying everything else. It'd be like therapy to make you right-handed instead of left-handed... which people used to try, btw.

>>686206972
>We should treat their psychosis with therapy rather than indulge and feed their delusion. They would be much happier.
we should apply this to religious people as well

>>686207662
just tell mommy and daddy that they did a great job faggot.

>>686207868
Not cured permanently but it has been treated.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957

>>686208189
I would agree to that, but they have way too much residual power from their conquering days and way to much money.

>>686207662
yeah, that's why the trans women I've met in person are so well-adjusted. One of them told me that her therapist would emphasize that her transition wasn't the end; she had to make plans for afterwards. And the other one, I haven't talked to her about it at all, but being trans is easily the least interesting thing about her. Which is why nobody else talks to her about it either.

it makes me wonder how I can still have social anxiety... these people take a bigger risk taking a dump these days, than I do texting a chick...

Look up Blaire White on youtube. She is cool as fuck, and I am more conservative leaning.

>>686194878
/thread

>>686203901

You seem to fail to understand that a lot of trannies are, like Caitlyn Jenner, absolutely fucking terrible at disguising themselves as the opposite gender. The tell lies in the fact that they tend to end up looking like a cross between the two, and it's painfully obvious to everyone around them. There are exceptions, but unfortunately, most human beings are not easily disguisable.

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>>686208484
>too much residual power from their conquering days and way to much money.
imagine Scientology.
Now imagine Scientology with a 2000-year head-start.

jebus isn't going anywhere

I am a tranny.
I'm actually pretty right-winged if that's what your asking.
Of course I get offended when somebody refuses to call me she or some shit, I don't freak out though, just a kind "agree to disagree".
I was raised by a grand total of four lesbians (two moms, my sis and her girlfriend)
I pass pretty well, my face is generally feminine and my chin manly by no means; I'm not sharing a pic cause there's no way in hell I'm going to trust /b/.

Also, I fucking hate Caitlin Jenner, I she didn't even transition because of her gender but because she likes the attention.

>>686193922
No, we're not.

>>686209002
didn't mean to put that "I" there, I'm a fucking moron

feel free to ask any questions btw

>>686209002
>Also, I fucking hate Caitlin Jenner, I she didn't even transition because of her gender but because she likes the attention.
i don't really like her either, but... transitioning for the attention doesn't add up, for one big reason:

...changing "Bruce" to "Caitlyn" in the record books.

that's the thing that would really put me in a red-faced rage, if I gave a single fuck about sports

>>686208523
Its totally fine to have social anxiety, its not like I'm more entitled to having a stressful life. Sometimes life is just hard.

I knew from day 1 transitioning would be hard, but its my decision and it was my responsibility to manage myself and my emotions throughout it all.

The whole bathroom issue is absurdly blown out of proportion, we just dont want to go into opposite gender bathrooms because we dont fit in. Its not that guys in wigs are trying to rape girls and that without the new laws they can't still do that.

>btw, thanks for being an open minded and understanding person, thats such a great thing to talk with someone like you

>>686203901
Dumbass, you can clearly tell when they are male or female. The mtfs have bigger faces and different bones. And the ftms are smaller and softer. I've met tranny pornstars in real life and they are not as passable as they are on camera.

The ones that pass very well are the rare exception.

Trap here. Just got into crossdressing about a year ago but I think I got it down. if anybody wants to trade pics or has requests, my kik is deadcowdown

I took a pretty attractive trap home one night.

She was totally a fucking mess. Crying because I didn't want to fuck her... abusive... an alcoholic... totally fucked.

I would steer clear; they seem like nutbags.

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>>686209000
Well shit. When you put it that way its terrifying

>>686209587
You do realize that normal girls are like that frequently... maybe you don't.

>>686209715
I've never had a girl act like that with me. Maybe I've just been fortunate I guess.

>>686208849
>>686209262
> Literally don't understand that they don't understand. Is it not a concept that can be communicated, or is it willful ignorance?

>>686194211
>she
He. Fuck did you just waddle over from tumblr?

>>686194878
Is it time for the beta uprising?

>>686195599
Underrated may may

>>686193922
i worked with one once, other than calling himself a girl he was a dude bro.

>>686196107
>No daddy issues
Just mental health issues

>>686210267
Ah, guess your experience with one generalizes to every single one ever.

>>686196415
>She
HE
HOLY FUCK. YOU CAN'T CHANGE YOUR CHROMOSOMES.

>>686210267
I've had a bit of interaction with a tranny.

Would you agree that they generally act male, even though they think they're female?
As in, the mannerisms/actions of a typical male. Thought process, etc.

>>686196107


more

>>686193922

and help attrative loser women when the ugly people losers get hurt by me
but hurt the attrative loser when the attrative loser women get the ugly guys losers jealous or angry
by hurting the attrative loser women the lame and ugly way
and the rejected loser ugly guys losers try to hurt the popular people that rejected the ugly guys losers
and the ugly guys losers are ugly as shit and has to hurt people with car noises so people dont know there ugly as shit
and the ugly guys losers get angry all day and try to hurt the awesome people the ugly way or attrative loser women the ugly way cause people think the ugly people losers is ugly
and lie about didnt have any advanges when hurt the awesome people the ugly way even tho the ugly people losers are too ugly to hurt people with looks like beyonce
and lie everything about else cause ugly and selfish and smart
and get ugly help but no one want the ugly people losers on tv
and the ugly guys losers are ugly and constylr bother me and people hate the ugly people losers but the ugly people losers got enough money to support other ugly people losers company
and the ugly guys losers cause problems cause the ugly guys losers are ugly as shit
and everybody hate the ugly people losers but the ugly people losers lie anyway
and the ugly guys losers has to hurt me the ugly way cause is loser and ugly and is too ugly to hurt the popular people like me with looks
even tho the ugly people losers are fake and ugly and smell like shit they try to kill nice things like biggie smalls cause is jealous and ugly and the ugly guys losers is fake and ugly
and the ugly people losers are so ugly that ill do anything to be in pain when the ugly people losers hurt me the ugly way and force me to like the ugly guys losers cause there gay and ugly
so we'll wait it out
and see the attrative losers get along with the pathatic ugly people losers that smell like shit
and how long will they get bored

>>686210350

found the butt hurt trapfag

>>686193922
the ugly people losers deny they didnt have advages when hurt people
n say the popular people scared of ugly people losers that gets rejected by the popular ppl and look ugly as shit
they lied saying all ugly people losers dont smell like shit n thats why get rejected by guys
there pathatic cause ugly n has to hurt attrative people the ugly way so can cock block the attrative people out the chat rooms n there is only ugly people losers
and its ugly cause the ugly people losers get angry
but hurt attrative loser women
and hurt popular people

>>686193922
Yes. All my tranny friends are insecure attentionwhores.

>>686196716
You're just a man with a mutilated dick

>>686210554
How many tranny friends do you have.
Are they just people you chat with on here?

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as a warning to any who may be thinking of hooking up with a trap, i give you this cautionary tale the infamous "Tranny Date"

>>686210405
>thinks pronouns only refer to chromosomes
kek

>>686209243
>Its not that guys in wigs are trying to rape girls and that without the new laws they can't still do that.
I find it hard to believe anyone actually believes that. I think it's just politicians trying to score points with Christian lobbyists.

This whole thing reeks of some kind of think-tank wag-the-dog bullshit. Note how hard they hit the words "birth certificate" -- clearly they're trying to evoke the old Obama's-a-secret-Kenyan meme. And now they've got every conservative in the country going into bathrooms looking for blood.

They harassed a friend of mine at a urinal. A totally cis male, at a urinal. I bet most of the people who get beat up aren't going to even be trans.

Or, even shot. Then they can combine this with the old well-practiced "well you can't do anything about guns" script that the NRA has trained us all into.

fuck, humanity is shit.

>>686210573
Don't have a mutilated dick yet tho.

>>686208189
Incomparable. Why are atheists always so angry?

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The fact of the matter is that;

Yes, there are mentally unstable trans girls
Yes, there are mentally unstable girls
Yes, there are mentally unstable guys
Yes, there are mentally stable trans girls
Yes, there are mentally stable girls
Yes, there are mentally stable guys

You can't use 1 to generalize all of the rest. Usually the worst of the worst make lots of noise and get attention. Due to heuristics, you therefore are more likely to think of cait jenner when you are asked to describe a trans person.

The trans girls who have the most successful lives are mentally sound, emotionally stable, and easily able to adapt to new situations.

Doesn't mean those who can't suddenly stop existing.

>>686210829
Life hack: Don't use public restrooms, their fucking disgusting in the first place.

Source: Tranny in NC

>>686210829
Did someone forget their meds today?

>>686207554
But he in no way said he believed in it. He said our ancestors did and, newsflash, they did.

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>>686193922

I know one tranny.

She's a girl tranny, IE a chick wearing men's clothing and taking testosterone. I knew her before she started taking the hormones and I'm kind of creeped out by her; but I can't say that she's particularly weird aside from being delusional about what sex she is. Basically she seems to have always wanted to be a redneck guy and that's pretty much how she lives now.

I think the dude trannies (IE men in dresses) may be a little more fucked up in the head than the girl trannies (IE bearded ladies) since most of the time when you read about them doing something crazy its a dude in a dress.

>>686210842
Go seek help then. Be OK with who you were born as.

>>686210643
3, none on 4chan. They'd probably cry about the triggering if they ever came on here.

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>>686193922

No. They're all perfectly sane.

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>>686211279
I tried that for the years pre-hrt. Ruined my life more by trying to do so.

>>686204333

>why didn't the hormones change your skeletal structure

You better not be this stupid.

This thread was brought to you by www.moveon.org and the Clinton Foundation.

oh yeah, one other thing about my two well-adjusted trans women friends is: THEY ARE BOTH ALWAYS IN A T-SHIRT AND JEANS.

that kind of says it all. Whatever it is, it's entirely real to them. And in the closer one's case, it's real enough to have warranted thousands of dollars in surgery, and a lifetime of injections, all for one flipped bit. The "staying a dude" option has SO MANY advantages, not the least of which is dating a much larger pool of straight women.

You really have to respect someone who's pushed through a process like that.

>>686193922
I only met one tranny and she was a good person. Was a Republican as well

>>686211554
Well you might as well an hero now. After you mutilate your dick your likelihood of suicide skyrockets.

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>>686194878
Fag

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>be me in my freshman year of hs
>always thought nah, they cant be this retarded irl
>fast forward to about a third of the way thru hs
>a grill transfers to the school
>find out shes a tranny
>has hair dyed blond
>k whatevs
>a few days l8er
>she has the same P.E as me
>i was running late to pe on this day
>(i was one of the only guys with long blond hair)
>this tranny(lets call her luk) just on this day thought she'd change in the boys locker room
>she just started changing next to my locker so everyone just thought it was me
>walk in, see her walk out, everyone starts flipping shit
>P.E teacher is a hard-ass black dude
>goes fucking ape shit on her
cont?

>>686211811
Realistically I see myself committing suicide rather or not the transition is a success in a few years.
I'm not just doing so now out of at least trying to make myself better first.
So you're not giving me any new news.

>>686212170
Yes.

>>686201937
What model guitar is that in the background? What are your favorite songs to play?

>>686212170
sure

>>686193922
Depends on the tranny

>>686212613
It a Yamaha folk guitar, not sure its model or anything.

I really like fingerpicking but I mainly play kind of lame stuff like Jonathan Coulton, Coheed and Cambria, Tenacious D, and plenty more.

>>686212170
well, she was probably forced by some school official to change in the boys' locker room

there's really no good solution to locker rooms. Even if nobody's trans, there's always bullshit going on in there.

>>686212864
>Tenacious D
Amazing.
Favorite song?

>>686212864
You has some good taste in music <3 I hope we all get better at being human.

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>>686212623
kay
>a little while later
>see coach
>hes a super bro sense I'm the only decent track guy and won us a champ in it after not having one for a few years
>"so whats the deal with that girl changing in the guys locker room?"
>"yea, sorry anon, we have to let her or else her mom is going to get the school closed down"
>pissed but i understand because its a poor ass school
>this backfired on her but she delt with it
>we had a few kids that do anything for shits and giggles
>one of them ran up to her in the changing room and shouted
>"YOU ONE OF THEM FREEKS WITH THE INSIDE OUT VAGINAS THAT MAKE FAKE DICKS?"
>entire locker room explodes with lols
>3 kids whip out their dicks and start to try rubbing them on her and shouting "WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE"
got a few more coming, not pre typed so hold on pls

>>686205996

Well now I'm hard. Show full nude?

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>>686213263
I love love love playing Wonderboy but its not anything complicated, like every Tenacious D song is pretty easy. Its also SUPER fun to play Beelzeboss even though its acoustic :)

>>686213343
Daww thats a super sweet thing to say. Just keep being yourself and you're definitely doing your part to do so :D

I know I'll never have everyone like me, I'm just doing what I can to try to have the fewest people dislike me as possible. I would imagine lots of people are like that.

>>686213546
>or else her mom is going to get the school closed down
that's a weird left turn. I would have thought the girls would have complained, or the girls' coach would have pretended that the girls complained, or some shit.

so, yeah, your class responded by assaulting her. I'm sure you're very proud of yourselves.

>>686213915
>Wonderboy
By chance can you sing it too?
Even if it's not complicated, it's neat that you can play it.

>I know I'll never have everyone like me, I'm just doing what I can to try to have the fewest people dislike me as possible. I would imagine lots of people are like that.
I totally understand how you feel.
I'm glad you're trying to keep a positive attitude in some way though.

>>686213950
They assaulted him.

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>>686213546
>two of the kids get expelled, one gets a week suspension
>shit gets weirder and weirder
>she becomes the brood mother of a little hive of other trannys,sjws and half-Jew feminazis
>they all sit together and occasionally scream some shit
>before we start actual gym every day the teachers let us fuck around for like 15 min
>jocks always throwing footballs n shit
>one day it hits one of the half jews in the head
>she grabs that shit and tucks it under her seance they are all sitting on the ground
>the jocks outnumber the Jew-brigade about 3.5:1
>they ask for the ball back and ofc get rejected
>they then proceed to fully surround the sjw's
>all of them begin to lean inward at once
>point it out to my little Vietnamese friend
>start loling like shit
>this creates a chain reaction of them falling on them in witch they can claim the person behind them pushed them down, no matter who it was so none of them got called out for anything
>the sjw's always gave back the ball after that
cont

>>686204376
Holy fuck you are 4 times more annoying than the guys ragging on trannies

>>686193922
Tough question; are you as fucked up as most users on here? It's like how it is with niggers: there are good ones and bad ones.

>>686214283
I've never been able to sing and play at the same time, I always get stuck up in it and can never get a good flow going. I'm so impressed when people are able to do that, I'm just terrible at multitasking the two things.

Like, I can do each separate, but together its a mess O_o

>>686193922

I've personally known one tranny and she was cool as shit. Much more grounded and self-aware than most of my fat friends.

>Not saying much

But still.

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>>686214527
>They assaulted him.
By your own logic, "he" belonged in the boys locker room.

show me again in the DSM which mental illnesses can be cured by assault?

>>686214707
Again, I know how you feel.
I can't multitask to save my life. Some of us only have single processor brains lol.
Would you mind Vocaroo'ing you singing it?

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>>686194878
Imagine a woman
>trans

It's a confused man who wants to deny he has a penis and not a vagina.

Worked with a guy who I didn't have fucking clue was trans until my manager told me, then I was like "oh lol, duh". Probably the loveliest person I've ever met, so down to earth.

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>>686193922
I'm trans and my life is normie.

>>686206972
I agree with you that it's a disorder but it's a harmless disorder and people inflicted should be able to choose how they treat it. Either through therapy or by embracing it

>>686215045
Average US soldier age in WW2 was 26. 22 in Vietnam. But I agree that people are pussies nowadays.

>>686195524
you might but be able to spot them all but I have spotted quite a few out in the wild. protip: most men can tell a real woman from a trap in an instant

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>>686215034
Lol, that sounds like a death sentence of harassment and being made fun of. I have a super bad singing voice as it is

pic related, me if i ever sang with my terrible trap voice
>btw, i dont do that super high femmy fake stuff. I did voice training and am very successful at not making anyone ask when i'm mic-ing on 2nd life or on Payday 2

>>686213915
I would ravish your butthole.

>>686215626
lol :3

>>686215459
Oh well, figured I'd ask lol.
How long did it take you to get your voice to work the way you thought it should?
I was only able to go through one voice therapy session and they pretty much told me everything I should be doing, but it's difficult to get it just right, and listening to my own recordings kills me a little on the inside.

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>>686215308
here are my C cups btw, all natural

>>686207458
Omg go the fuck away other than like 2 12 yr olds shit posting. It's pretty much polite conversation. Go SJW on some other thread

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>>686214527
they assaulted it
>>686213950
she was a tranny and apparently her mother fully supported this and was going to get the school closed down for "oppressing a student biased off of her gender" if they refused her change in the boys locker room
>she starts to actually go insane a bit
>every day she starts screaming hail satan loud af in the halls and shit
>gym teacher gave up on trying to get her to do shit
>so her and her brood just kinda took half the equipment and fucked around with it and did not even get included in the regular shit
>one of the days we are doing some gay outdoor batmiten shit
>windy as fuck so it fly's like a motherfucker
>goes flying way over my head and past Vietnamese bro's
>lands next to the trannys
>Vietnamese bro goes over to pick it up
>luk starts yelling at him, tells him to get his shit together
>Vietnamese bro was only about 5ft tall so he kinda befriended me because he knew I'd protect him
>I've fought ppl twice my size for him
>don't think i have ever gotten as mad at her
>go full fucking drill Sargent on her cause even she was bigger then him
>"SHUT YOUR FUCKING TRANNY ASS UP YOU FILTHY SACK OF SHIT"
>she just kinda lays down on the bench for the rest of the period quietly sobbing
>only time i was ever happy to make a girl cry
cont

>>686215864
Release the titties.

>>686215846
Eh, I just kept it up since I started my transition and it just kinda ended up this way. I didn't really notice any changes since it was such a gradual thing. It seemed more overall that it was weird and awkward at first, then just smoothed out and got better with time. Kinda like voice puberty for girls.

>>686215864
That you Kayla?

>>686216071
rate my info graphic first nigger

>>686209002
Are you the black haired tranny. If so I've seen you on threads before

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>>686216158
>That you Kayla?
n..no

>>686214527
>>686215018
>>686215994
Awh fuck my bad folks. I got confused with an mtf story. It is a her. Please excuse the interruption.

>>686194211
>tranwreck

>>686216158
Urg, I was totally hoping for some advice. Thanks for responding though. I'll probably 'just get it' over the years too, but I totally hate this awkward in-between stage.

I think I got gang raped by 6 trannies
I would never know for sure ..

>>686216187
Fair enough, I'll give you a 9/10, due to Manson and Your low confidence.

>>686216383
I guess as far as advice goes just try hard not to make a nasal-y voice.
Also don't do an upward inflection at the end of the majority of your sentences.

Neither of these things are feminine or natural sounding.

Try speaking in a pitch higher than your regular one for long intervals, maybe read a book out loud to yourself. Its all just tedious overall but takes practice.

>>686216238
>its totally you, lol

>>686205996
very nice femanon you are one of the more passable traps ive seen.

>>686205996

You re hot as hell..
How s you dick?

>>686215994
hmm. well, that must have been before the current consensus that you use the facilities that match your identity. because if you send a tranny into the boys' locker room, that's the kind of shit that happens.

the idea that kids can see any other kids naked at any point while at school, is not a good situation. The bathroom situation will work out fine because there's stall doors, but locker rooms...

>>686216655
Thank you for the advice, I appreciate it.
I hope whatever you want from life works out well, you seem like a nice person.

>>686215994
What really scares me is that you think you did the right thing, and that you're some kind of benevolent protector. It's not that you should feel bad, because you didn't know better... but it literally terrifies me that you're proud of this story.

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>>686215994
>>686216312
no prob b0sS
this is most likely the last story about her but il try to throw in another to make it last longer
>ff to almost the end of the school year
>like 4 weeks left
>a kid gets expelled for full scale rapeing a girl
>apparently this girl was luks girlfriend(will explain l8er)
>luks girlfriend stops showing up to school
>luk starts going full batshit insane
>running around the main office shouting hail Satan and then running away before they got her
>eventually she lets a guy into her circle cause he was a gay sissy
>she tells him that she has voices in her head and that they tell her to parents and herself
>kid being the beta he is tells the office
>i dident know this until i called her gf and asked her
>she told me that she got sent to a mental hospital and might be lucky to get out by the time we hit 20
>top kek
>never saw her again
now for the girlfriend explanation
>come to school one day
>see luk is a lot more calm then normal
>but shes basically glued to a cute ass girl now
>ask the girl
>she says that as long as luk identify as a male then she sees nothing wrong with it
>tell her that makes her a lesbian
>"nuh uh. sh- hes better then most men, nicer and not afraid to push it"
>"k"
and that is the story of luk

>>686215308
fuck anon we have almost the exact same likes in all categories.
at least im not a virgin so thats going for me i guess
>don't like the salton sea never could get into it

>>686217502
go back to tumblr

>>686194878
>those broad shoulders
>that square jaw
>those facial features
>those hands

100% faggotry

>>686217880
>don't like the salton sea never could get into it
Well I am so cal though and through and used to hang out there alone all the time to reflect so for me it was a no brainer. You think based on my likes that I am dateable? I am such a coward I never put myself out there but men are pretty mean when it comes to trannies so I worry.

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>>686217502
what nigger?
at the time i was about 6'1 and 185 pounds
Vietnamese bro was about 4'11-5ft and about 100lb
luk was about 5'5-5'7 and i dont know prob around 150lb
Vietnamese bro was just about my only friend during hs because i was a weird ass kid with a sence of humor darker then the population of Africa, so i defended him with everything i had
luk was fucking nuts of her bonkers and i diffident know if she was going to fucking attack him or something, a million time better then me co lapsing her fucking face in with my fist, yea?

>>686216215
I don't frequent 4chan, I was just here out of boredom, so I can't say I know who you're talking about.

I do have black hair though

>>686217745
wait, luk was ftm? shit

this is why your "I CALL THEM BY THERE CROMOSOMS" shit doesn't fly

Because 99% of the time you're not looking at someone's urethra. it's just easier to go by their social role.

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>>686202206

>>686193922
Nope. They're more fucked up.

I know an aspiring tranny at work. Pretty chill guy, just starts randomly talking in a fem voice, kinda creepy. Other than that, he's okay I guess.

>>686218772
so by that logic, every woman that operates machinery and burps loudly is a man. you're an idiot, fuck off. these are men with mental disorders. it's the same as fat people just being fat. they don't accept it, but they're usually just extremely unhealthy.

>>686194878
>finesse and delicacy of a woman
it comes from her mind, fuckmoron.

straight-forwardness of a man comes from his body abilities and cultural role of being a man that society need.
you know, when you have a strong pair of arms you can be straight-forward because fuck-that-shit-am-gonna-punch-you-in-the-face

women evolved into delicacy because it is best strategy for their weak bodies - you know, persuade their enemies into not making harm of her.

>>686200404
J-Jessica?

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>>686218772
no nigger she was not mtf how meany time do i need to enplane this shit
>she was a female
>that wanted to be male
>that prob is going to be ftm if she ever gets out of that mental hospital
>have you ever seen a fucking highschool freshman have mtf or ftm?

>>686219376
Noop, Tilly

>>686219247
>body abilities
life isn't a fucking video game, champ. time to get a job.

>>686219460
Okay cool, almost had a heart attack. Spitting image there.

>>686193922
Like 4 go to my school and theyre all super liberal i mean they took part in the whole "showers oppress or natural womenly smell" type deal and they have a club that meets in the library during lunch periods called trauma club the description that they give out is any female who is patronized and or traumatized can come to these support meetings i have several greentext worthy stories if interested

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>>686219906
cringe

I hate most other trannies and like to just be low key as humanly fucking possible.

>>686193922
nah i know some really cool trans girls

>>686194880
You can't be treated for mental disorders and run around in society? Shit, better call my psych

>>686193922
KANE RENART FISHER OTTAWA

>>686220160
Why do you hate trans girls.

>>686216187
Informational/10 would not destroy with criticism

>>686193922
>tfw trannies are trannies because they secretly fear the jungle donkey
https://youtu.be/Fu7O1UZwkSk

>>686221848
you bastard

ITT: Retards who think their "muh feelings" matter when their opinions have no justification or merit.

And I'm not talking about the trannies :^)

>>686217502
It's fine to be weird just bottle the shit up in public like normal people. The bitch sounded nutty or Atleast attention hungry, she got some negative attention for her actions. The dick rubbing on the locker room wasn't cool but other than that luk sounded like a cunt

>>686193922
All of the trannies I've met have literally just been girls that look like they browsed tumblr too much and cut their hair short.
Never met any mtf's

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>>686221012
You mean other transgirls. I am mtf myself but the ammount of cringe being produced by every other tranny makes me never want to be out as trans. I guess I am stealth at this point because I pass and live full time as a girl, I don't let trans shit enter my life except once a month when I have to go to the lgbt clinic for refills of my meds.

>>686223943
Show that you pass

>>686223943
I know this feel.

Tried to go to one transgender group just for the experience of it, one of the worst social experiences of my life to sit through.
Since I don't fully pass at the moment, I have to live with the fact I'm trans. I can't wait until (and if...) I get to the point where I get passed 100% of the time and I don't have to deal with this middle stage and I can just put it behind me.

>>686224232
kek I ain't posting a pic here and outing myself
No one in my new life knows I used to be a dude and I want to keep it that way.

>>686224518
>one of the worst social experiences of my life to sit through
I have warned others in the past to stay away from those hon fests.

>>686196034
Nice, but... it will never have children on its own. It need hormone therapy to maintain its feminine appearance. It is female only cosmetically.

>>686223943
Kayla please, you produce more drama than almost any other person on lgbt
You've spent years talking about your trans woes on the forums, its obviously a very large part of life if not the main part.

>>686224548
>I'm stealth
>people will recognize me as a guy if i post my passing pictures

>>686224700
I don't typically go into trans threads either lol, if that's what you meant. Good on you for warning others though. It's a terrible discouragement and a overdepressive hugbox.