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/b/ I have a question for you guys: why do so many of our generation
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/b/ I have a question for you guys: why do so many of our generation seek escape from the real world through for example drugs and alcohol?
What is, for you guys, the real reason you guys drink smoke whatever?

All answers are good answers, i just wanna know.
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because its fun
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>>685761869
For you its solely for enjoyment? but do you crave for it for the party or whatever to be fun
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>>685761228
>life sucks
>drugs cure life suck
>feelsgoodman.jpg
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>>685762890
Yes
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You answered your own question, to escape reality. When you have nothing going for you getting caught in a vicious cycle of drugs and alcohol is easy, also destructive. It's basically an easier alternative to actually bettering your life
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>>685763059
Do you mostly use alcohol/drugs to gain the feeling of feeling good or forgetting/feeling nothing of the real world
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I drink with other people on social events because it's fun. It also makes me more confident and I start to talk more.
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>>685763202
You right, i've just recently noticed my friends really fucking up their life and dedicating it to drugs. In my opinion they just succumb to the pressure of the real world and invest their leftover energy into using drugs to forget the real world
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>>685763059
It makes me forget the world is Shit. It makes the world pretty
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>>685763223
>>685763630
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>>685761228
I smoke to cover up boredom, anxiety and bipolar tendencies. Everyone thinks I'm so chill but it's just because I'm high all the time. I'm what I consider a functioning stoner so I don't see it ruining my life just yet. I make enough money to take care of all my other shit and have a decent savings, so I have the cash for it. A cheap, easy way to escape the realities of being a 21 year old who has never had a gf, witnessed his dad cheat on his mom but held it in for years to not destroy the family, and was involved in a child porn scandal involving our coach and several team members. Not hat any of that shot is too heavy, I'd just rather be stoned
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>>685763444
That could be the case, I've seen it many times, people crack and just give up and drugs/alcohol are there for them. In my case, long story short, I'm severely depressed and smoking makes me forget briefly why my life is so shitty. The shitty part is that I'm very aware I'm destroying myself but I give less of a shit everyday. Sometimes people just need a friend to talk to man :/
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>>685763429
>>685763630
Thats what i experience often too
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>>685763877
I'm sorry for you. Im glad u've found a functioning solution to your problem
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Its a force of habit
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>>685764012
Yeah i pretty much do the same thing its way chiller to be able to smoke your stress away but ive also noticed when i sometimes smoke my depression just goed through the roof and instead of releasing the stress im enhancing it
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Do you guys think this fenomenon of escaping reality could be fixed by having someone or people to help you with your day to day problems. Do you guys think that you would stop if the problems go away?
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>>685761228
Life is meaningless. I got too aware of that when I was young. Smoking weed brings me down to earth in my opinion not the other way.
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>>685763877
You think it's helping but it's not anon. You're suppressing you're feelings with drugs and by doing that you're reliving all those shitty memories everyday. I hope you find the strength to face your demons and find healthier alternatives because I guarantee self medicating isn't the answer.
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It's a distraction from all the Bs. Even if it's just for a minute
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>>685764626
Great point! I feel as if self medication sometimes can bring a person down to earth rather than escape the world around them
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>>685764654
not the anon you replied to, but to be fair we all self-medicate in one way or another
for some people its unhealthy shit like doing drugs or drinking
for some people its hobbies like collecting things or playing video games
for others they might even be things that seem healthy like running or exercising
but even those people are just trying to make themselves feel better either temporarily, we're all just passing the time until we die, some people just do it in different ways.
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>>685764524
It definitely does. Especially smoking alone you get into your own head. I've reached a breaking point with smoking and depression/anxiety after trying to self medicate for 4-5 years. It's not the answer at all
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>>685764711
Do you think help for your bullshit can thrive you to do without self medication?
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>>685764843
It doesn't work for many. I would never recommend it. But I get lost in the void without the fixation it brings on the here and now.
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>>685761228
I'm not sure, but I feel like depression and other mental illnesses are affecting this generation more
Nobody knows how to cope, and drugs are getting easier and easier to find.
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>>685764886
Op here again and you're right. I've been smoking weed since I was 14 and i gradually start to understand the uselessness of it. Not that I completely disregard the benefits but I now understand that it is not a problem solver, it can help, but it cant solve them always
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>>685765058
Great statement! I feel as if our generation feels alot of pressure: needing to fit in, trying to find balance between now and the future, the general educational pressure that is present etc. And drugs have really become easily available especially in holland where i live
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>>685764869
I agree, we all have our vices and or hobbies to pass the time away or blow off some steam. I just think in anons case smoking to suppress feelings/memories is not a healthy alternative. Anon is obviously not in a place he would like to be and it sounds like he has given up and would rather be complacent.
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>>685765017
It indeed doesn't work for many, thats also the reason why I question alot of the pro-pot campaigns stating that pot is the solution to all problems on earth.
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>>685765062
At least you are aware, nothing is worse than the "weed isn't bad for you" argument. Yes, weed has many benefits that can help people cope but it IS a drug and like any drug overdosing has side affects.
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>>685765325
I agree. It's a very personal thing for me. I've seen my share of people falling off the edge, but I always wondered if they were on the edge to beginwi and those people also tend to use lots of other drugs at least at some point as well.

I also wonder if the illegal aspect of weed brings out the fixation as paranio because people become very aware they're doing something illegal. I'm from the UK BTW. As I got older and accepted my fate as a pot head and fine tuned my ability to do it without getting caught, I found the paranio subsided. But again this is all a personal so I wouldn't push that on anyone.
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>>685765322
do you think rocking back and forth in the fetal position recounting the pains of his youth would make the rest of his life more enjoyable?
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>>685765710
I'm glad you understand me. I just hope not too many kids fall into the hands of self-medication as a result of lack of help/ the promotion of drugs as weed
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Because it eases the pain. I thought about an hero but I am too lazy to actually do it, so I take painkillers and the drugs I want to feel good.

Doesn't solve anything but since I am terminally ill it doesn't matter anyways.
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Its not a generational thing.. the human condition is to suffer.. truth is we have it easy.. our ancestors had to fight for every meal and risk death taking a shit.. still life is tough!
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>>685765832
You are completely right. The illegal aspect of drugs does make us feel negatively judged the moment we come in contact with it.

And yes most people who can't cope the drugs are also people who were unstable at the beginning I think. Also there are just people that are sensible for falling off the edge. I think it's completely an individual matter
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>>685766514
They also did plenty of drugs and no one gave them shit for it.
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>>685766226
No but being stoned and depressed your whole life isn't either
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>>685766418
Do you see drugs as the only way out? Or just the most easily available way out? I'm sorry to hear you are terminally ill, maybe there are other ways to make your life more memorable, just a suggestion.
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I'm 22y/o and i drink casually because when i drink i feel good and it makes me happy
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>>685766514
>>685766651
Both are true, we have it way easier than our ancestors and way back then there were no legislations on drugs but what you have to keep in mind is that we as our generation have many different aspects in our lives that makes it hard for us to cope with.
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>>685766815
Just the easiest way. I am just too lazy for alternatives.
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>>685766917
Okay thank you for your participation!
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>>685767023
Stress is going up, anxiety, depression suicide is all on the up. Are you blaming this on drug use? People have been using drugs as long as there's been people. I think prohibition and the increase in these problems are what's related, not the use of drugs.
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>>685761228
Everyone who I have ever cared for fucked me over; realizing that im worthless as well despite career and money success and i take alcohol to escape the nightmares that i have due to the lies i thought didnt exist that now haunt me.

Simple as that 4 me rly
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I abuse drugs and alcohol daily mostly because I'm depressed and have been stuck in the cycle for so long I find it impossible to go a full day sober....I truly hate that I am this way and wish I cared enough when I was younger to not become a full blown addict because I know I'm never going to be happy if I continue this way :/
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I drink every day because I legitimately hate myself and want to die, but when I drink I feel like I can actually talk to people without being ultra depressed.
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>>685767890
I'm not blaming it in drug use at all, I think drug use derives from having problems which cannot be coped with. I think the same as you do
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>>685768367
Has this escape ever lead to any longterm solutions? U shouldn't think you're worthless because of the words of another. Seek people who are good for you, it is always rare to find someone who is truly good for you but there is a chance!
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>>685768669
It is very good of you that you understand your problem and what has caused it. All you need to do now is working on the sobering process. Don't quit at once, most people just relapse. Take adequate steps into soberness. I have had my times of weed abuse, hating myself for sparking joint after joint. But once you stop this nonsense you'll see the benefits it brings for you. The mind space and peace that you will regain from being sober. You don't have to cut completely on the alcohol, just to the level of what people see as "normal". just like a whine a day. Goodluck bro
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>>685768881
Do you think that after long use of alcohol, the aclohol has turned into placebo much rather than actually helping you?
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>>685767053
That is also a way to live your life. There is no good or bad, but i wish you more happiness and motivation in your life even tho words might not be powerful enough for you to feel that i mean it
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