>>685256996
>>685257073
>>685257138
You've gotta keep sucking that dick.

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>>685257256
Man, you interrupted it!

And it wasn't even funny!

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>>685257316
Thanks anon. I have some greextexts for you!

>>685257509
It had the same comedic value as that post had feels value. Fucking platitudes which don't mean anything.

>>685257686
Is the vagabond supposed to be autistic?

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>>685257779
Well this isn't a shitty YLYL thread, at least mine was related you faggot.

>>685257958
There's no need for name-calling.

>>685257759
that slavshit should have been cooked on his 85

>>685258090
While I don't think he should be denied the right to express support for Nazism, I can't help but think (from a personal very biased point of view) 'Fuck that guy'. So, while I can rationally see that this picture is problematic, it emotes no feels in me. You can defend Nazism all you like but they were disgusting rats.

>>685255329
My wife left me for another german officer who got promoted by hitler because he had one extra jewkill.

> mfw

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>>685258286
>Getting angry at an elderly veteran

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>>685258841
"Hey, there's Franz! HEY FRANZ!"
>Waves

"Holy SHIT, the National Socialist party is back, better force his arm down!"

You're the rat here.

>>685259361
He was saluting. Don't pretend to be retarded.

>>685259006
i don't get it. why is this feels?

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>>685259675
I've done it (unironically)

it's just putting your hand up to motion towards someone, it's pretty fucking obvious.

>>685260037
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to salute. Or show support of Nazi politics as a counter to a group demonstrators for human and refugees rights (which is what he was doing, by the way). I'm just saying I (personally) don't feel sorry for him in that moment, for that indecent.

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>>685260605
Well thank you for giving me your unwanted opinion I guess.

Question: What human rights were they protesting?

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>>685259853
Because he realised that his great-grandfather was disappointed in him for saying Hitler was an idiot.

>>685260989
They weren't protesting any human rights. I said they were demonstrators for human and refugee rights.

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>>685261642
What human rights are they demonstrating for?

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>>685261829
They were demonstrating for better treatment of Freital asylum seekers, many of whom became malnourished and unhygienic in the temporary facility in which they were placed - along with some other sub-par, prison-like treatments. The same things were (and still are) going on in many EU asylum centres.

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>>685262105
fuck you man. i didnt come here to cry

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>>685262388
Ah, I getchya. Give a muslim a finger, they take the whole hand.

Some of these people are the most ungreatful pieces of garbage, those refuge centers could be used to feed and shelter native born Europeans but given away to some foreigner. They're already spending billions of Euros just for those "oh so horrible" conditions. Apparently it's better than the conditions in their nation that they run from, yet they still have the selfishness to whine about it.

>>685262105
Gay.

>>685262970
I'm not saying everything is peachy and that we can all live peacefully. Really, that's not what I'm saying. I agree that "Some of these people are the most ungrateful pieces of garbage", as you said. I also know that many Europeans are in dire need of support as well. But I also know that helping asylum seekers and helping our own are not mutually exclusive. We could do both, but the money is going up and offshore rather than to the people in need. I personally think that we, as civilised Europeans, owe it to ourselves to treat those from hellholes with a little more dignity, rather than locking them up, driving them insane, making them feel like pariahs and then ultimately allocating dense ghettos for them in our cities. Regardless of what anyone thinks the real solution is, this certainly is not.

Anyway, where are you from? I'd like to know from where your perspective in born. Let's stop quibbling and communicate.

>>685262072
>>685262105
I really hate this and feel bad for the creator.

>>685264106
you shouldn't talk about yourself like that, it's rude.

>>685264386
Same.

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>>685264645
Talking about myself is rude? Uh... okay...

>>685264645
You fuckin' buried that cocksucker. Zing!

>>685264853
No, but I bet he's burying his cock in your ass.

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>>685264595
oh god I forgot about this, I cant read it
>>685264386
yeah i think its dumb

>>685265335
Holy shit, now you buried me. Fucking double zing! I'm cracking up over here!

>>685265718
My mom warned me about people like you on the internet... never thought she would be right.

>>685257256
Fuck you

>>685265925
I can't breathe. First time I've ever witnessed a triple zing! I'm fucking dying over here. Fucking sick burns flying all over the place.

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>>685255329

>>685266085
lol

This thread is pretty poor, but if anyone is feeling a little down, this song always lifts me up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKouBHarIo

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>>685261092
See you someday, somewhere Anon. You're gona carry that weight.

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>>685263678
Fuckin lost

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>>685255329
Here's one of my few greentexts
1/2

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>>685255329
2/2

>>685267536
Oh holy shit fuck you man
Fuck you

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>>685267853

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>>685268502

>>685268291
Why's your green text look yellow?

>>685268502
I'm fucking dying ;-;

>>685268748
You probably need to get your eyes checked

>>685268502
Go fuck yourself

It's moments like these that we can have our feels threads, I hate you 4chan, but I love every single /b/ tard there is, we might do fucked up things, but we still have a level of feelness that never fades, I wish I can meet you all and cry into your arms, I'm glad it's 2016 and I'm here with you, even if you're not in my life personally, I love you all

>>685269269
Thanks, brother. I need this place more than I'd like to admit to myself sometimes.

>>685269269
I for one hate all of you. Especially whoever posted the comic with the dog
If you're reading this
Fuck you

>>685268502
I literally just shed a tear

>>685269402
Love you man. I feel the same

>>685269701
You too, man. Thanks. I needed that.

>>685269705
Makes me afraid of dying and forgetting emotion, I love to cry, I love to feel anger, I love to be happy, I love to feel

I will post my real life right now. My wife and Daughter are in the other room asleep. They helped me through my heroin addiction even though I was a total ass. My daughter told me two days ago she was proud of me. My wife gave me the debt card tonight to get pizza three months clean. I did not just get pizza, Im high right now, They are dreaming about how great I am and how things are better. Im sorry Karen and my little Allie cat maybe I should just be gone when you wake up. Real life sucks, Dont do drugs.

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feels1

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>>685270112
feels2

>>685269933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv5qN4Qn9ss

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>>685270156
feels3

>>685269906
To me you're worth something, to be honest though I care too much about people than myself and makes me die inside you know? Not to say you're a terrible person, nor I give a shit if you are, it's just..sometimes I forget who I am, I love myself though, even if I was "different"

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>>685270177
feels4

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>>685270232
feels5

>>685270063
Hey anon, quit doing drugs. You'll find yourself not using them anymore.

>>685269705
Fuck, I miss my bro

I feel less of a man for all the times i got into arguments with my mom over petty little things. Now shes dead and every piece of advice she gave me was because she cared. She cared and i just ignored her. She believed that i could become someone and i became no one despite her whole life being devoted to me. I let her die knowing i was a selfish loser.

>>685270063
Pls stop anon
For your family

>>685269003
Its just sad. Having a dead guy tell a great story only to be remembered by a few anonymous people. And the rest of the world calls us bastards and sick fucks who care nothing of people's emotion and feelings

>>685270291
The Army broke me and I am scarred that drugs are the only thing I live for. They deserve better.

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>>685259775
THIS IS FUCKING GROVE STREET

>>685270260
Is the blank wall suppose to represent the emptiness one feels for losing a loved one?

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>>685270781
idk, its just a green text i had some where saved. ask OP not me.

>>685270520
Fuck that. I assume that they love you very much and you love them very much. That has to be enough. Don't be so goddamn selfish in choosing what they deserve or not. They want you and you should be happy about that. Quit focusing on the bad and focus on the great, like your family.

>>685270260
God fuckin dammit its been a year and it still hurts

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>>685270976
i know right? fucking feels

>>685270063
I don't have any advice or judgement. Only this:

My father was an alcoholic. He chose his addiction over his family. He died this year, after 9 years of having zero contact with his wife and kids. On the day he died, my mother (who after a decade apart was still listed as his next of kin because addiction will make you stagnate in time, never moving forward). I went to the hospital to identify the body. He was found on the street. No one went to his funeral.

Think about what you want, anon.

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>>685270931
it's just a shitty crop

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>>685255329
Gentelmen! I love war!!!

>>685271095
Point taken. I am being honest in saying that I am not sure I can handle seeing my failure in their eyes.

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>>685258841
Piss off, jude.

Does anyone mind if I start posting some feels songs? I'll try and keep it varied.

The Cure - Pictures of You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmFFTkjs-O0

>>685271544
Yeah, because only the Jews were tormented by those fascist jack-booted fucks. Are you sure you're an anti-Semite? Because that's some Zionist propaganda your pushing there.

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Youngfag here
>Be me, be 8
>Me plus big sister used to browse in /a/
>Little fag didn't understand the site, only there for shiny drawings
>Keep on posting and taking ideas for our comic in /a/ and /v/
>Big sister is happy to see his little faggot have the same hobbies
>Share everything
>Grow up to 16 old boy
>Big sister been developing a huge depression troughout all of this years
>Stayed with her and kept being awesome little bro
>Depression is too much for her
>Grow until 18 years old boy
>Comes back from first day of college
>Sister is gone
>Still looking for her


This last part happened me a week ago.

>>685271666
Shit, I got satanic trips on that post.

Anyway, here's another feels tune.

The Ink Spots - I'll never Smile Again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYMdjMdpp8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK7GSARUs_Q

If you can watch this and not tear up there's something wrong with you

>>685271909
Watched it like 5 years ago I think.

>>685271909
Shit, I haven't seen this in a while. The feels train always arrives on time when I see this.

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just gonna vent. I feel like im not good enough for anyone. Everyone gets bored of me. Girls and friends both. I dont understand. Everything starts great and then everyone just goes away. Why? I always blame myself.

>>685271903
The saddest song I know.

Jaques Brel - Ne Me Quitte Pas*

(with English subs for non-French; *translates as 'Don't Leave Me')

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7zgNye6HTE

>>685269269
I feel the opposite. If any /b/tard ever showed up at my house I'd blow his ass away with a glock .40

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>>685271887
search in the local morgues. not to be pessimistic, but i have experienced in my own flesh what having a depressed family member is, if she is missing for a week, well im sorry to tell you but she prob gone by now.

>>685261185
Eh, that is kind of stupid.

>>685272062
Your defeatist attitude is that of a loathsome manchild
Be more positive, if you arent happy alone you wont truly be happy with others, theyll just be a crutch and thats unhealthy. Find something you love, an interest. For me it was bodybuilding, but anything that goves you purpose and builds character is fine

>>685272082
The Smiths - Last Night I Dreamt that Somebody Loved Me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk0BOK0EDFE

>>685272299
Second

get rekt.

https://youtu.be/VLAAy_pM-k8

Rape has destroyed me emotionally and no one knows.

>>685272244
I know. This thread kind of started as a Nazi fetish feels, bizarrely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evYxx8qjZFs

>>685272466
Where did the man stare at you?

>>685272317
Oasis - Don't Go Away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab1nJg4RKw0

>>685272299
I know what youre saying man. I draw and have a real passion for music. I was just getting somethings off my chest. I know it is a little pathetic but thats why I posted about it on /b/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fle03DaXypc

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>>685258841
>problematic
fuck this, tumblr all over, im outta here

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>>685272466
got molested as a child {5}(no one knows, not even my family.) could get over it with huge amounts of alcohol, i also have a rage problem, except for those two, im fine.

pic unrelated

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>>685272299
>>685272394
I do try to be more positive and I am happy when Im alone. but sometimes things happen.

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>>685255329

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K38h0W2bZrQ

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That feel when you can no longer feel because you've gone through too many disappointments.

>>685272549
Paolo Nutini - Autumn Leaves

This one is about his grandfather (nonno) who died. He taught Paolo all about music, but never lived to see him become a successful musician.

>>685272643
I was 14. My family doesn't know either. I self medicate with weed, got addicted. Now trying to quit.

>>685272521
m-my pee pee

>>685272607
Goodbye, take your over-sensitivity with you please.

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>>685272851
u a grill or a man? im male.

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>>685272236
I'm pretty sure she is gone tbh.
I just want to plant the tree she asked for as a grave.

Tell me /b/. Can I be a /b/ro too?

I think im gonna meed these threads.

>>685271909
Calling bullshit niggers don't have feelings
Fucking crocodile tears for the extra views

>>685269956
Trust me, depression is like a part of you dies internally. You're almost always sad. You forget how to feel anything after a while. Source: Am a diagnosed depressive

She was always trying to make her way ahead of him and it slowly killed him inside, to an extent of which he was growing apathetic to it; and maybe even to her. But she was such a bright spot in his life, such an example and a motivation that he couldn’t truly find anywhere else. He had tried, but whether his will simply wasn’t strong enough, or self-improvement not a big enough push, he fell short. It was always her figure he was chasing and her torch he kept lit.
He realized it then. He was in love with time. Not the concept of it like some philosopher fantasizes about or the human representation of it you’d find in childhood fiction. No, he loved time. He fell in love with memories and parts of his life that he would never truly relive, constantly personifying them into whatever he could rationalize in his head. He raised women to these pedestals to represent to him his childhood, happiness, and countless other emotions he never truly understood. To represent all the good times he had long since left behind. He remembered the first girl he could ever say he fell for. Her name was Diane, a sweet girl filled innocence and ignorance of the world around her. He remembered when he moved, how he would visit and how he would use her like a tool to go back to those wondrous days of childhood. No, he wanted her as one wants a memory. He felt for her as one would feel looking through a photo album. All the women of his life fell to the same fate, to represent a point in his life one which was never truly as great as it once was. Lonely times represented by sparks of hope, angry times represented by moments of sight, and apathetic moments mistaken for the gaining of maturity and knowledge. He was helplessly, head over heels, and blindly in love with the great delusion of time. Lost time, spare time, old times, and new times, but goddamn him if it wasn’t the good times that were slowly killing him.

>>685273001
Grill. Rapist was my ex boyfriend's older brother who force fed me drugs. the whole things lasted a month.

>>685273117
And now she was no different, just a goal to him, a challenge that perhaps he never really expected to complete. A target he never truly thought he could hit and when he eventually did, he’d lose much of the passion he had felt. Memories constantly relived aren’t memories, and you simply end up living in the past wishing and hoping for something to force you forward; he couldn’t, and it ate at him.

>>685273054
that edge will get you nowhere in life

>>685273001
I'm a girl btw

>>685273202
No. Fuck you. Don't you fuckin dare attempt that half assed defense on par with yelps from the chimps themselves
Niggers are not people.
It is not edgy.
It is not /pol/ack autism.
It is the fucking truth.
So go fuck yourself, faggot.

>>685273129
I'm not the anon you were talking to but that scares the living fuck out of me. I have two teenage sisters (14 and 16), so I empathise a lot. I'm sorry that happened to you, anon.

There is a certain beauty in the impact of simple actions. A wave, a nod, a handshake. Such small, nearly unimportant, actions carry such a weight that one could not even imagine. A smile, oh dear Christ a smile. He wondered how many lives had been saved by a smile, how many had been ended, and how many ruined.
A small smile across the train would fill him with a joy so unique, so itself, that he wouldn’t know what to do with himself. He’d smile back, and in that short moment nothing would matter. Not his dead end job, his boring social life, or his ever stagnating mind. In that moment he was free, he was happy, and then that moment was gone.
And yet that same action can brought him such a haunting pain. A sad smile would fill his heart with a cynic’s solidarity. In that moment he would feel the full weight of empathy bearing down. He’d tell himself that he’d do anything to help, but that moment too would pass and reality would set in as he simply continued his life leaving others to theirs

>>685272945
>uses word problematic
>im over sensitive
wew lad.
how does it feel being a retard?

>>685273402
seems like you have bigger issues going on in your life
goodluck anon

>>685273402
I didn't think it was possible to lack self-awareness in degrees this huge.

He felt drunk.
His weightless head swayed in the subtle breeze that made its way inside his room through his ever open window. It danced around him now, making its way to the bottom of his spine to the top of his head, gently nipping him as it finally faded out and left him alone again, empty in his tomb of self-pity. Outside the star shined brighter than he had noticed, leaving way to an empty, yet lit, yard that reminded him of a horror flick. He could swear that any minute some freakish monster would make way to the center only to face him, but the small wish filled with some sort of mild excitement rung false, and his time simply continued as it always had. He leaned back in his chair as he looked his ceiling, a small sort of prayer coming to his lips, though it was more a simple exclamation than anything else. A simple word to remind him that he was still sitting here, staring and biding his time.
Christ. He wish he felt drunk.

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Anyone has quotes like this? I want to perfect my collection

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>>685273673
2/?

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>tfw you can't even go to feels threads without feeling worse anymore

is it time?

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>>685273712
3/?

>>685273580
>>685273602
Fuck off nigger lovers

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>>685273740
4/?

>>685273724
its never time to kill yourself

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>>685273770
5/?

>>685273789
but it is time to die?

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>>685273129
>>685273215
two of you? wow. well maybe one of you said the truth, any way this is an anonymous board so i can past anything about my past and not be fearful of the consequences.
>be 5~
>8 in the morning
>skipping class cuz just moved to a new city/county and have no friends nor i speak the language fluently.
> go to a landscape where cops dont bother
>sit down on a bench
>guy in his 35~ approaches me
> sits next to me but with like one feet between us
> starts talking to me about random shit, like why im there, and what im i doing there
> realize he has like tons fo tattoes, (now i realize they where jail tattoos, cuz they looked like shit and lost all their color)
> guys pulls out his dick and starts jacking off.
>next thing i remember im walking home and its almost night.

im sure some shit happened, not sure what tho, it was long time ago.

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>>685273824
6/?

>>685273830
no

>>685273450
Thanks. I have a younger sister as well. I'm glad it happened to me and not her.

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>>685273884
7/?

Maybe life was like a pun, lost in the translation of some long forgotten language or misunderstood under cultural significance beyond his knowledge. Maybe it had no real meaning at all or maybe the joke was just never that funny. Whatever it was or could be, it went over his head. All it seemed to be now was like one of those old black and white movies, void of sound as it flickers on with no meaning or sight. It was quickly approaching its end, though it would not end as the hero walked into the sun, a great victor and conqueror. This story was destined to end as most others do, suddenly and without warning. There was no great struggle to be had, no great war to fight; just the simplicity of accepting and letting go.

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>>685273926
8/?
Will probaly stop contributing at 10 if no one posts with me

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>>685273991
9/?

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>>685273926
post more, i appreciate ya

>>685273564
I thought you were leaving?

It's a fucking word, anon. Settle down. I'm French. The easiest translation for "a negative issue that needs to be ammended" (problématique) is (you guessed it) "problematic".

So let e just get this correct:
>I'm not a Nazi
>But I think people should freely be allowed to express support of Nazism
>I think that not allowing that support (i.e making it punishable by law) is a problem

And THAT makes me an overly-sensitive person who belongs on tumblr? Fuck me, anon. Your getting riled up over a word that is perfectly appropriate to describe what I was commenting on. I didn't even use it in the same formula or context as the people you seem to think have a monopoly on the word. I was defending people I strongly disagree with.

>>685273843
You sucked his dick fag

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>>685274023
10/?

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>>685258841

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>>685274048
dont remember, cant deny nor confirm.

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>>685274081
11/?

The issue, I think, lies within this idea that love is something beyond instinct, that it somehow transcends reason. I’m not sure it does. It may be painful to admit but it may just be, in itself, a selfish streak of self-preservation at its basic form. I may be just trying to hide from myself that the one thing I once wished to find may not truly exist.
But maybe such simplicity isn’t bad, to need something and have something need you. The idea, as odd and unhealthy as it may be, has always been seducing to me. But then again maybe that is just a lie I tell myself, the reality of which unachievable.
Truth be told, the more I think about love the more I fall back onto old thoughts, and simpler times, and the one thing I know is that it’s as cliché as Harlan Ellison once wrote.
"Do you know what love is?"
"Sure I know. A boy loves his dog."

>>685274027
What about 4am?

>>685273753
>not edgy
>not pol/ack/ autism

Okay.

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>>685274135
12/?

>>685274188
its 5:23 in the east coast.

and yes im drunk.

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>>685274208
13/?

>>685274044
lol me riled up?
I didn't write a paragraph.
Also learn English

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i'm not one of them

>>685273906
Then your life isn't completely ruined. If you can hold onto that burning, protective love even if it means you'll never be numb to the sadness then you're still human. Still alive. And still with hope.

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>>685274353
15/?

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>>685274386
16/?

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>>685274418
17/?

>>685274418
opposite of cheers

>>685274265
I wrote five lines and some greentext. Settle down with the hyperbole.

>Learn English
I am learning English. Maybe you can help me, so this doesn't happen in future. What word, then, better describes something that is a problem or causes problems, if not problematic?

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>>685274455
18/?

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>>685274499
19/?

>>685273888
Trips of truth. Anon must live out his natural time completely.

>>685269003
The thread was in October, but the news report was in May, so I say it is fake. He has serious attachment issues by the way.

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>>685274559
20/?
Are people still lurking my posts ?

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>>685274619
21/?

>>685274619
somewhat

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>>685274651
22/?

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>>685274701
23/?

The wind of the night, whistling as it carried the weight of the world and the sanity of my mind, died down and with it my peace. Thoughts rushing back to my head, cluttering it as I desperately listened for some distraction to reach me, some sweet sound to come to my rescue and whisk me to a place of serenity.
But my timing always seemed to be off, and as I sat brooding in my desperation and fear of the future I realized that even if that distraction should come, it would die away just as soon as it had a thousand times before. I sometimes envied the simple-minded, and by that I do not mean to say that I believe myself superior to anyone, in fact I would say it was quite the opposite. The true realization of this came to me, I think, at the death of my great-grandmother. We were close, though had grown away as time went by. I was 22 and spending time with her just seemed so… lonely. It’s tough to describe spending time with someone as such, but it seemed that we were just different people. I assumed that most people had felt the same with her, or perhaps I just hoped so for my own sake, but I knew that it wasn’t true. Where I had found relaxation in isolation, she found it with the crowds. I retreated through life, constantly hiding; while she advanced ever forward to face her fears.
She passed away well into her 80s surrounded by family that loved, and friends that adored her. At her funeral I watch as people showed up. It was a small crowd, but each one of them grew to love her. Each speech filled me, overwhelmed me, as I pondered a single thought. What would it be like if I was in that casket?
Not too deep of a thought, as I am sure many have it as they go through their lives, but one that hit me regardless because I knew what it would be like. A pond of strangers, people I loved but didn’t quite know.

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>>685274444
How has no one check'd this yet?

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>>685274730
24/?

>>685274498
settle down pierre
You could of structured your sentence differently, instead you ended up sounding like a little pussy.
Case closed.

>>685274749
This is my last piece of writing. These were all done on nights when I was feeling suicidal, some on nights when I nearly got to the point.
As a side note, life does get better. Suffer on and things will get good only if it is only for a sunny day.

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>>685274768
25/?

>>685274750
Shit, you're right.

>>685274444
Fuckin' checked.

>>685274595
fuck you i'll die when i want to

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>>685274813
26/?

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>>685274857
27/?

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i'll post some stuff for you guys

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>>685274887
28/?

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>>685274929

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>>685274932
29/?

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>>685274967
30/?

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>>685275012
31/?

>>685274796
In this instance, I really don't know why you're telling me to settle down. I only asked what a more appropriate word would be since 'problematic' is off-limits even when describing a problem, apparently.

How should I have structured it? All I said was that the guy (and anyone else giving a salute) shouldn't have been treated like that but that I, personally, didn't have much empathy for him.

By the way, it's been over half-an-hour since you said you were leaving.

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>>685274963

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>>685275063
32/?

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>>685275092
33/?

>>685258213
every time I read this story it still makes me sad.

>>685275082

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>>685275076
Im telling you to settle down because youre getting upset on an anime image board. Go to bed and get blown up by sand people tomorrow.

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>>685275225

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>>685275138
34/?

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>>685275423
35/?

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>>685275423
36/?
I got to go boys, I hope I have satisfied you with my contributions..

>>685275236
Kek. Of course, I didn't expect an actual answer to my question, just as I didn't expect one the last time I asked. It's nearly 12pm here (the world is round, you know?) so I won't go to bed but thanks for the suggestion. As soon as you start claiming, with no evidence, than I'm upset you've lost the argument, anon. Let's remember that you got agitated over my use of an adjective (and don't say you didn't, or else you would have just scrolled on by without feeling the need to start some shit), you then attached a whole fucking philosophy (which doesn't exist) to that adjective, and then proceeded to make pejorative remarks about me.

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>>685275597
I have no idea if you're supporting my post or negating it.

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>>685275118
Kek same

>>685275118
Oh shit, I can't unsee that. Fucking hearty kek.

>>685275698
what we perceive as order is merely the difference between the current state of disorder and the maximum state of disorder