>>685156247
good post

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>>685156247

Endurance isn't everything, sure you can chase the animal down, but if the animal fights back what do you do ?
How do you chase a deer once you lose track of it ?
Also
>humans are endurant
>the average human can't jog 3kms without having to take a break
Hmm.

>>685156247
You just know learned that? That is old news.

>>685156589
>implying you need to jog to track animals
If you lose track of an animal, go back to the beginning and try again

>>685156589
>the average human can't jog 3kms without having to take a break
Yep In this current age. but go back several thousand years and the majority of the hunters from hunter gathering tribes would have been able to do this. It would have been part of the ability to hunt and provide for the tribe.

I'm drunk enough to enjoy this post

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>>685156589
>what do you do if the animal fights back
Fight with a spear.

Obviously, not being able to fight back was one of the biggest things that could prevent us from being the best hunters in the world. Humans are beings without fangs, claws and poison. So we have to have something. And that is hands and brain. A brain to figure out how to create a tool and hands to make that tool.

Now you might say that is unfair because most animals can't make or use tools. But most animals have other deadly advantage to make use of, like fangs, claws and poison. Creating tools like spears is our weapon and defense in nature. Without tool-making we are a very little threat. So denying the reason for using tools as a way of living for humans is very ignorant.

>>685156247
Just think: these are all gifts from God! All praise toward him!

Good luck chasing down a cheetah

>>685156539
There's probably alien life out there that's so unfathomably intelligent and violent that we seem like sloths in comparison.

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finally human appreciation thread!
got really tired from man destroy this kill off that..
i love the human race, we rock!

>>685158772
They have no endurance, they sprint short distances.

>>685158772
>Cheetahs kill their prey by tripping it during the chase; the cheetah can use its strong dewclaw to knock the prey off its balance. To kill medium- to large-sized prey, the cheetah bites the prey's throat to suffocate it to death. A bite on the back of the neck or the snout is enough to kill smaller prey. The prey is then taken to a shaded place; the cheetah, highly exhausted after the chase, rests beside the kill and pants heavily for nearly five to 55 minutes.

FIFTY FIVE FUCKING MINUTES. That is how long it can take for the fastest animal on earth to regain its stamina. Even five minutes is a lot. And this is just ONE high speed burst chase that can take up to 30 seconds.

Yeah. Human could easily chase down a cheetah.

>>685158958
probably not, consider our earth, all the forms of life, all of them, previous and current, all down to the simplest living thing, we are the only intelligent one and intelligence is not favored by evolution, you can become the apex predator on your planet without having any self awareness.

I am certain there is life out there, but intelligent life? Not so much, considering its the most rare kind even here where there is life all over

>>685158958
The only thing that is keeping humans from going out to space and spreading themselves in the Universe, is humans. And the only way that can happen is if either we are all united under one country or all of us have a common alien enemy that forces us to work together.

>>685156589
wtf? every single person I know can jog 3km without stopping?

even when I weighed 97 kg and was fat I was able to run 3km without stopping though I did use more than 15 minutes, usually around 17, compared to when I was not fat and always did it in 13 or less minutes.

running 3 km is a good start to your workout routine, its not a problem for anyone of normal health and below the age of 50.

if you actually live a place where the average human would have problems with this (I even managed it easily when out of shape) then you live a sad place..

>>685157196
every single person I know can jog for 3km without stopping, not everyone will be able to do it in less than 15 minutes but they would easily be able to finish without taking breaks.

stop with this nonsense.

>>685158772
it would most likely be worn out long before it went out of view

>>685157196
>thousands of years ago
It's still happening today in somalia and the likes.

>>685161233
seriously, just go try, I bet you too would be able to run 3km without stopping.

I have legit problems grasping how you can discuss this as if it was some kind of difficult feat??

just try, you will most likely be done in less than 20-25 minutes even if you are out of shape.

Even American football players can jog for 3km. Though they have to jog for 6 seconds, take a 5 minute break, jog another 6 seconds and so on.

Humans get runners high. It is literally natures way of rewarding humans for being good runners.

>>685161467
I run 5 times a weeks, it's not hard literally everyone can run with a minimum of motivation. I'm saying he implied no one does it anymore, but some somalian is probably running after an antiloppe or something RIGHT NOW this instant.

>>685161869
oh, like for hunting, then sure, I agree, there are probably humans hunting like that for sure

I just thought people actually believed that modern man was unable to run 3km without stopping, and that is just false (or really sad if someone actually can't)

Wolverines can run forever.

>>685156247
true in most parts, but just try to out run a wolf in arctic conditions. Humans will always lose that match up

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>>685156539
Haha looks like someone needs to be introduced to the /HFY/ reddit sub.

>>685158958
Think of it like this, as humans become more intelligent we are also becoming more lethargic and lazy. No imagine how we will be once we reach faster than light travel

>>685162160
The modern man is pretty okay to be honest. Not everyone are fat slobs.

>>685162281
>outrun
Yes.
>outlast
Prob not

>>685160138
Solid point anon

obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o

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>>685156247
I also read Born To Run, good book.

>>685158772
I track and hunt down deer for hours during hunting season. I'd love to be able to use a spear and knife like back in the day but the animal rights organizations wouldn't allow it. The only thing that keeps me from reaching my quarry is property lines.

>>685157196
3km is easy. There are people capable of running a fucking marathon

>>685162431
yes, even out last. Wolves can outrun and last huskies which in turn often run 100 miles (about 160km) while pulling a sled with out a break.

Now like I said the key is in arctic conditions where sweatting is not the factor, but at those lattitudes wolves are champions not humans

>>685158772
Chasing a cheetah is actually easy. Cheetahs can only attain their 70mph sprint when chasing prey, when running away they are actually quite slow. Just search up lions or hyenas attacking cheetahs, they don't stand a chance.

>>685162281
Humans are the cancer of nature. There is no escape once they fixated on you. Run run run all you want. You will still get caught and die.

>>685156247
African wild dogs have a success rate of 80% (lions have a 10% for comparison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_wild_dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfPYvqJles

>>685163154
We have assault rifles. A wolfs teeth aren't going to do in that situation and they can't run away from an assault rifle

>>685156247

Close to true. That's why humans were good hunters. They could wound an animal then catch up to it.

However, the antelope for example can run like 35 mph for an hour straight. By the time a human caught up, it could do it again and so forth.

Humans are such good distance runners because we actually have a reason to do so. If some (not many, but some) animals actually had a reason to run long distances they could defeat the human.

Problem is, all the animals that do well with distance are prey, and need only run far enough to get away from a predator. Humans fall into both categories.

Tldr: if you taught an antelope to keep running for long distances it would beat a human.

>>685162419
agreed.

the modern man only allow for a broader spectrum of human as we now also have our modern society where you can get by sitting in your office all day

but I have noticed a change, the younger generations (maybe with the exception of americas tumblr users) are more focused on health than before so there is hope =)

>>685163154
Now are we talking one on one? Or groups? One on one id give advantage to the wolf, but why would a human be tracking a wolf? It would be the other way, and humans are almost the top defensive animal on the world. If we are doing a one on one battle in the woods, with a wolf and a human, i dont know. If the human was dropped naked in this scenario, ill give it to the wolf, but if the human has clothes and a knife, i give it to the human

>>685163386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o

>>685163154
Humans can use skis though and save a lot more energy. So you are wrong.

>inb4 that is cheating.

>>685163350
Besides the modern weaponry point, wolves know they couldn't assault a human without a pack. Our ability to defend ourselves with the tools we use as been ingrained in the minds of any predator out there.

Why post this here where there are only fat ass autistic neckbeards trying to act smarter than they are. This discussion will never lead to anything just like your life. Faggot.

>>685163666
Human might as well just use an apache attack helicopter if you are going to cheat

lol 4chan couldnt catch a sloth

>>685163786
You wanna talk champ?

>>685156247
>at long distant
The fuck

>>685163816
How is it cheating when we use our greatest assest? If we cant use the tools our brains have made, the wolf cant have its fur and claws

>>685163386
I'm not sure you quite grasp the concept of why humans don't have fur. It is not so we can tan and look brown. It is so that we can stand the heat and actively chase down a animal, like an antelope, to exhaustion.

Did you even read the post?

>>685163786
>>685163891
Probably just a libtard who's butthurt about humanity being great is all. It's hard to make us the demons of the world when we're so well adjusted to it.

>>685163851
kek, Don't question the potential of /b/.

>>685163816
if our brains are cheating then so are the wolves when it bites.

you are basically saying that if we use the tools we have then we are cheating, we should use the tools of the one we compare ourselves to, that is moronic and wrong, sorry.

>>685164005
Literally this. Basic tools made from the woods should not be considered unfair. And making skis is as easy as making a good spear.

>>685163663
David Attenborough, best narrator for documents ever... full 5/7

>>685164172
The potential of /b/ is downwards though.

That's what vegans do not understand, we are hunter, we are predators and killers and that is it, period. Yes, it's stupid to kill animal without reason but killing a living thing to feed yourself is literally most natural and normal thing to do. If you aren't able to kill a pray than you are error in human evolution.

>>685156247
i need movies with a survivalist setting like that
anyone please?

>>685164416
home alone

>>685162683
wow great post man

>>685162160
most americans cant

>>685163663

You're missing my point I think.

The prey doesn't train to run distance , therefor it can't.

Look at the Iditarod No human could ever catch those dogs. 1000 miles, in sub freezing conditions, sometime in under 10 days.

Dogs however arent Marathon runners. But... they train for it, and now you have a pack of dogs pulling a sled, in sub zero temperature, that can outrun any human.

If you did the same thing with an antelope or some other animals it would hold true

>>685164339

So what has anyone here actually killed? Nothing. You fatties sit there all day eating cheetos and drinking mountain dew while watching david fattenborough tell you how to wipe your ass and suddenly you are the expert. Kill yourself faggot.

>>685164734
So without human involvement it is impossible, gotcha

>>685156247
He is right.

Ch3ck it outo on YouTube you can watch videos of African tribesmen running d9wn gazelle for 6 fuck ingredients hours until the thing collapses from exhaustion. It is our greatest non intelligently related advantage besides thumbs.

>>685164848
You wanna go out back and toss the ol pig skin around and talk about it slugger?

>>685164848
I've killed more mosquitos than I can count. Some times I've even gone after bigger pray such as house flies and wasps.

>>685164848
In today's world with mass production and consumption yes, we didn't, but we are not any different than our ancestors, we all share same DNA it's in our blood. And i have killed pigs, chickens, ducks, rabbits... and eaten em all

>>685156247
Well this method of hunting is what wolves do. A group of wolves can chase their prey for 2-3 miles until its unable to keep going, and then finish it off. It doesn't always work but its pretty good.

Thanks to human technology, I don't have to run at all. I can sit back with my rifle, take the head off a deer then throw it in the back of my truck and drive it home

>>685164052

Yes. I read and am very familiar with the concept. It was even on shark tank last night. I am also a barefoot runner. I get the whole Africans evolved to run thing, Sherpas evolve to climb and breath air with low oxygen etc.

My point is that it's not as if humans are just natural long distance runners. Our body is suited for it yes. But also, we practice it out of necessity. Other animals do not.

Refer to my post about sled dogs.

>>685164684
Most of the EU can't either, they're too pussiefied to go outside their cities and have to rely on nature for longer than a few hours.

>>685165133
You kill motherfucking wasps? Shit, you hardcore.

>>685164684
are you serious or just shitting on "amerifats"??

if you are serious I will honestly stop joking about it and make fun of them for it because then it actually is a real problem that we need to solve.

>>685164905

Without reason to do so.

So basically saying that we are biologically built to be the best runners is untrue, because we have shown that other animals can perform better when trained.

>>685164848
I've hunted, so have many people I know, its quite common actually, its probably just not common in your circles/country/area/whatever

>>685165545
we evolved to run long distance, we didn't train for it, so it does mean that we are "we are biologically built to be the best runners"

>>685165545
But they dont train, they have no need to. So here we are having humans playing god with creatures, which shows again why we are the top species on this planet

>>685165347
this is a lie, if anything it is safer to go outside our cities, the criminals and drug addicts usually stay in the city so you avoid the vast majority who would want to hurt you by leaving the city

>>685164848
Someone's butthurt about their life choices. I've killed ten deer, countless squirrels and rabbits, three boar, and hundreds of fish. There we go, you've got someone who's told you their kill count.

>>685157467
TL;DR humans are scary fuckers and can kill shit because we are smart and can endure lots of running/ travelling distances.

>>685164734
>>685165297

>Humans can't do anything in habitats that is too harsh for them
>And they are not allowed to use their brain to adapt to these situations

Yeah, fuck off. Humans like many other animals are not only good in one thing but 2 or several other. Our endurance and adaptability go hand in hand. Which is why we are everywhere in the world. Of course a Human can't run when there is too much damn snow in the way. So they counter this by building skis.

>>685165792

Never argued we aren't top species.

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>>685156247
>ces wi

>>685165545
when neither the animals nor the humans trained for it we were best

what we did was find a animal, breed it over years for specific needs while giving it specialized training etc

>>685166061
No but you are arguing with training other creatures can out perform us, but without humans there is no training them. They dont train themselves, so your whole point is moot

>>685165744

Than how can other animals out run plus for long distances? If humans biologically are better? Than how can a dog do it?

We evolved to run long distances. Mean we are the best at it.

Sparrows evolved to fly. They don't fly as good as a falcon

Bass evolved to swim, they don't swim as good as a shark

Etc

>>685165933
Except you have ruined all the potential natural danger by wiping out the majority of animals that stand taller than your ankles.

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>>685156247

Yes humans are the jason voorhees of the animal kingdom.

And shit just got worse when we got bows and arrows.

You guys do realize that there almost certainly exist races of beings in the universe that are more intelligent than humanity by a factor of millions of years of genetic engineering, or their equivalent?

Don't be too quick to claim divine providence over other life forms.

>>685166583
Read the thread, then come back m8

>>685165368
Yes, but it was not an easy task.

It was a blazing hot summer day, not a cloud in the sky to darken to festive mood that had taken hold when suddenly a monster in black and yellow stripes appeared. Its wings buzzed with such sound that strikes terror and fear causes weaker man hide in shame, but not I. I, with out moment to lose jumped from my lay-z-boy and rolled to the cabinet that held the greatest wasp killing weapon ever made by man, an old rolled newspaper.

The battle raged for days and I was nearly defeated, but on the third night the temperature suddenly dropped, a miracle I had prayed. With the sudden gust of cold wind the wasps reactions slowed for a moment and I was able to strike the killing blow... I lost my left leg and right eye in the battle, but I lived to tell the tale of my heroism and was hailed as a hero in my home village.

>>685159252
True we do. I just don't hope we kill our self. We should do what ever is needed to survive and gain progress.

>>685166338
Dogs are domesticated animals that are bred and trained for specific purposes by humans. They weren't evolved by natural standards.

And a Man could still outlast a dog if he was physically fit.

>>685156539

try watching starship troopers.

>>685166689
Most people just use Raid

>>685158958

It's more likely that we are and will continue to be the oldest, smartest and strongest life form in the galaxy

>>685166405
if anything that just prove that it was us that was dangerous to them and not the other way around

>>685156485
I wish the fast were allowed to hunt those to extermination.

>>685158772

If you had human intelligence you'd chase it down after it caught prey. It's tired and can't run, That way you get the cheetah skin to make lingerie for your girlfriend and the gazelle burgers.

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Let me solve this thread.

If you think humans aren't the best runners, you are obviously some fat kid sitting in front of some pc

If you think humans can't kill something if it fights back, you must be stupid because the only animals that can EFFECTIVELY fight back are carnivores like a lion, a pack of hyenas and so on. I mean even a boar can fight back but it is not that dangerous. And if it fights back, you obviously have at least a kinfe or spear.
(I know that buffalos are dangerous too but I bet you aren't going to hunt one by yourself)

>>685166583
I consider this very unlikely.

of all life to ever happen here we are the only one intelligent and there is nothing in evolution that favors intelligence, actually intelligence is one of the more difficult roads for life to go down compared to simply being stronger or faster than other rivals

>>685166771
humans won last time I checked

>>685164734
You realize most sled runners ACTUALLY RUN WITH THE DOGS. They don't just stand on the back. Then the RUNNER WHO HAS BEEN RUNNING ALL DAY WITH THE DOGS takes care of all the dogs needs before his own.

>>685166583

Yet there's almost no chance of them existing inside our galaxy, or us ever meeting them when you factor in the vastness of an infinite galaxy.

In fact any race that smart is almost certain to destroy themselves.

>>685156247
That dude is Lothar, of the Hill People

>>685167004
Hence, the pussification of humanity in the EU, you guys only face the danger of humanity itself. Going back to nature scares you people shitless.

>>685167392

Exactly. Humans were the invading force, conflict initiators, fascist, sadistic, more deadly, the bugs feared them. The whole point of the post i replied to was he wanted a sci-fi where the humans were the scary ones.

>>685164848
Are we at the theater? Because you seem to be projecting shit

>>685156247
>Humans are the best in the world at long distant running
That doesn't include fat autists. Sorry OP.

>>685156539

as to the point of "we invented dogs" what more likely happened was less aggressive wolves starting hanging out near humans to scavenge their scraps. These less aggressive wolves would mate with each other and that would naturally create dogs. Watch/read about the tame silver fox experiment.

>>685162343
Looks like someone's in the wrong place Reddit fag

>>685167996

all animals are judged by prime fit examples. No one clocks a fat cheetah from a zoo...

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>>685164522
Kek

>>685167767
>Sci-fi where the humans were the scary ones

Wall - E

https://www.ted.com/talks/christopher_mcdougall_are_we_born_to_run

>>685166739

yet not loose our humanity in the process. Compassion is part of what makes us strong.

>>685167710
I see now that you are a moron, sorry I took you seriously earlier, you don't have a clue whatsoever and it was unfair of me to expect what I did from you

>>685168340

More proof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3t9SfrfDZM

>>685168118
They wanted shit about humans being badass, I provided a location. What, I can't enjoy multiple forms of online discussion? Trying to tell me I can't post in gaming forums either because its "too softcore" compared to the hardcore ride that is /b/? Christ, keyboard warrior, how long does it take you to get out of your chair? Longest I've seen from a coworker was 6 minutes. I bet you can top that.

Every year there is a man vs horse race over middle distance and a man won it one unseasonably warm summer as the horse was unable to dissipate the heat as well as the human.

Only once, but it proves the point. There are 18th century accounts of aboriginal men who were part of Australia's early constabulary who ran at their masters side as they roamed the land on horseback. For sending long distance messages these men were able to run for days, sleeping a couple of hours and resuming the pace, even going so far as to eat raw meat on the run after a brief hunt to sustain their energy.

Westerners are fat and underexercised, everyone starts out with a body that is capable, but a mind that is trained not to be.

>>685166768

Dog could get farther ahead, rest, get farther ahead.

Human couldn't catch it.

But yes, the human can run for a longer period of time

>>685160138
Considering just how big the universe is, I'm pretty sure there's intelligent life somewhere else, claiming earth is the only planet with intelligent lifeforms is too bold a statement, but then again, we used to think the Earth was the center of the universe.

>>685168698

because some less intelligent /b/tards are hard about their websites the way sports fags are gay for their teams.

>>685168823
Dog has to stop eventually.

>>685158772
Cheetahs over heat and begin frying their brains if they sprint too long. They are sitting ducks after a run.

>>685167280
nigga i don't think you know what a boar is. Boars will kill you dead and not think twice. It takes a special spear to not get a double KO versus a boar

>>685164848
I engage in fishing and hunting

Would selective breeding work on humans?

>>685168473
Yup, turn around and try to insult me because your own point came back to reinforce mine. I did say current EU humanity, and you're talking about the ancestors of Europe from 200 years ago.

>>685166768

Some dogs are bred for specific purposes, but the ancient breeds could have evolved symbiotically around human tribes. There's theories about it.

>>685164848
One time when I was little I stepped on an ant...

>>685169178

no he's right. You sound pretty stupid. You're painting with a huge brush, making blanket generalizations, and not making any specific points.

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>>685168698
There is literally nothing redeemable about Reddit. And why would someone go there to look at material stolen from 4chan when they could just find the same shit on 4chan?