Why can't /b/ agree on the right answer? I'll break it down for you
20÷2 (5+5)
20÷2 (10+10)
20÷2 (20)
20÷40
=.5
ur actually retarded
>>684872944
its100
>>684873064
Deep down you know he's right op
> 20÷2 (5+5)
> 20÷2 (10+10)
What you just add 5 to each for shits an gigs?
>>684872944
Retard alert. It's 100
>>684872944
it's 100 you kike
>20/2(5+5)
>parentheses first
>20/2(10)
>multiplication and division, left to right
>10(10)
>100
nigger
>>684873064
/thread
20 / 2 (10)
20 / 20
1
>>684872944
>20\2 (10+10)
Fucked up right there m8
If youre distributing it should just be
>>20/(10+10)
>>684872944
PEMDAS faggot
You guys are all forgetting the distributive property.
20÷2 (5+5)
20÷ (10+10(
20÷20
>The answer is 1 retards.
>>684872944
100
its 1 not 5 fucking dumb ass its 8th grade math
>implying mathematics is taught to retarded shitstains
>>684873207
No its 1
Multiplication and division are weighted equally, so if division comes before multiplication, you do them shits first! It's 100...faggots.
>>684873327
5 × 2 = 10 retard
No sure if OP retarded or b8, either way still a fagget
>>684873411
Multiply and divide from left to right faggot
>>684873411
>>684873535
>>684872944
20/2(5+5) = 20/10+10
= 2+10
= 12
>>684873798
P E M D A S
E
M
D
A
S
Fag
You should probably listen to yourself. Simple 8th grade math would've taught you that division and multiplication goes from right to left.
20/2(5+5)
20/2(10)
10(10)
100.
Don't be calling others retards when you are a retard.
>>684873207
/thread
100
you fuckin retards
> sigh, I accept this bait
20 / 2(5+5) =
20 / 2(10) =
20 / 20 =
1
>>684872944
>>684873844
He still kept the 2 and never distributed
>>684874470
The answer is cock fuckers
You should only use [2(5+5) = 10 + 10] if the parentheses contained x.
Just fucking wolfram it fools. It's 100.
>>684873844
Then the 2 goes away. Learn to distribute.
Method 1
>20/ 2 (5+5)
>20/ (10+10)
>20/20
>1
Method 2
>20/ 2 (5+5)
>20/2(10)
>20/20
>1
yea its 100 just type it into calc
>>684872944
/b/ agrees on the answer. Not sure what website you came from, but you should go back to posting there. This site is for users 18 and up.
>>684872944
20÷2 (5+5)
1
fucker
>>684874828
then how come when you enter this equation into a calculator the answer is always 100?
>>684872944
everyone knows the number 5 is not used in math.
>>684874828
20/2(5+5)
20/2(10)
10(10)
100
It's 100 you worthless pieces of shit.
>>684872944
>20/2(5+5)
>20/2(10)
>20/20
>1
faggot
>>684874361
Dude try 20/(2(5+5))
That's a fucking casio
>>684874999
Calculators process parenthesis and multiplication as the same thing. Order of operations dictates that parenthesis always comes first.
PEMDAS (learned this shit in middle school)
Parenthesis
Exponents
Multiplication/Division
Addition/Subtraction
>>684875255
you just changed the entire equation by adding those extra parantnehthethisisst you dumbass
P: 20/2(10) = x
E: 20/2(10) =
M/D 20/2(10) = x
== 10(10) = x
== 100 = x
A/S = non-exist.
100 = x
>>684874910
>>684874828
>>684874424
>>684873718
>>684873645
>>684873582
>>684873411
Division before multiplication you fucking goons
Brackets first you get
indicies
division
multiplication
addition
subtraction
1 + 2 = potato
>>684872944
You faggots are arguing about order of evaluation, I'm trying to understand fucking Lie Algebras, Lie Groups, Spinors, SU(2)<=>SO(3), Quantum Spin, and how they are all connected.
Math is a lot more interesting than arbitrary symbolic manipulation conventions.
Btw:
20÷2 (5+5)
20÷2*10
10*10
100
Distribute fucking niggers
20÷2 (5+5)
20÷(10+10)
20÷20
1
Fucking mongs
>>684875372
I didn't change shit go learn some math
Actually i think this is bait wtv
Order of operations niggers
20/2(5+5)
20/2x10
10x10
100
>>684872944
math m.sc. reporting in: It's 100.
>>684875401
Division and Multiplication depend on the order they appear in the equation. That said, parenthesis don't count as multiplication when you're talking about order of operations.
Again
>PEMDAS
>>684875522
you are so uneducated it hurts, fucking multiplied before you divided like some backwards hillbilly who never passed highschool
>>684875522
You would have to distribute 20/2 not 2 dumbass
>>684875506
Mfw dags don't know how to relate to quantum spin
>>684874589
no. don't feed the troll. it is bad.
>>684875718
you like dags?
>>684875255
But that's a completely different equation anon
>Casio
Oh, dogz, yea I like dags, I like maff betta
Y'all niggas need to learn some fucking PEMDAS
>Parenthesis
>Exponents
>Multiply
>Divide
>Add
>Subtract
You do these functions in that fucking order.
>>684874352
you're joking... right?
is actually bait?
The issue here is that people think parenthesis and multiplication are interchangeable. While they function the same way, in the context of Order of Operations, they are not interchangeable as parenthesis always comes first. Anything next to the parenthesis ( in this case, 2) gets distributed into the parenthesis via multiplication before you can proceed down the PEMDAS order.
OP, that's not how you start an argument. THIS is how you start one:
What is the Cost of a book that costs 1$ plus half of its price?
What is the Cost of a book that costs 1$ plus half of its price?
A book costs $1 plus half its price. How much does the book cost?
>>684875685
20/2 isn't it's own term son, 2 is. Learn simply algebra you edy 12 year old
>>684873207
100 is correct
>>684874352
you meant left to right, yea? cuz that's what you did.
>>684875580
are you trolling? cause 20/2*10 and 20/(2*10) are pretty fucking different
>>684872944
20/2(5+5)
20/2*10
10*10
100
Please
Excuse
My
Dear
Aunt
Sally
PEMDAS
Left to right on multiplication and division.
Answer comes out to 100.
nigger.
>>684876171
$1.50
P
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M
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>>684876119
lol. He is right dumbass. The answer is 100, anyone saying anything else is wrong.
>>684874352
this faggot is right
20/2(5+5)
10(5+5)
10(10)
100
>>684876437
>100
K E K
BEDMAS, wtf is this pemdas shit? are eurofags backwards even in math? D comes before M
Nigger cock + OP mouth = faggot
Pemdas
20/2(10)
20/20
1
Fucking idiots
>>684872944
this basic math.
5+5 = 10
20÷2 = 10
10×10 = 100
I really hope this is bait
guys, since division and multiplication are the SAME FUCKING THING, as well as addition and subtraction being the same, it could be said that you should consider it PEMA. answer is 100.
>>684876160
Finally someone with something above the GED the edgy /b/tard have.
100 is wrong
>20/ 2(5x5)
>20/ 2(10)
This is where people falter. They think division comes first because it appears before the multiplication. But in this case, the multiplication is actually a parenthesis which, according to PEMDAS, comes first. Not only do you solve for what's inside the parenthesis, but anything outside the parenthesis ( 2(10) ) also counts as a parenthesis operation. Hence it becomes 20
>20/20
>1
>>684876678
division gets priority cause it's before multiplication you fucktard
>>684876717
they aren't the same because you get 2 different answers depending on order of operations
No one uses that division symbol anymore it should be in fraction form making it 1
20
---------
2(5+5)
20
---------
2(10)
20
-------- = 1
20
>>684872944
ATTENTION ALL OF YOU POOR FAGGOTS: IT'S MOMENTS LIKE THIS I AM GLAD I WENT TO A RICH PRIVATE SCHOOL AND I KNOW THE ANSWER BUT WON'T TELL YOU.
ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED FAGGOTS GO BACK TO YOUR BLUE COLLAR JOBS MUHAHAHAHAHAHAH MUAHAH MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>684872944
WRONG ALWAYS DO WHATS IN THE PARENTHESES FIRST!!
The distributive property is used for unlike terms, not 5+5...faggots.
>>684876849
here's a paradox for you:
10/10 = 10*10^(-1)
Now tell me: is division still different from multiplication?
Also:
2-1 =2 + (-1)
>>684872944
> (10+10)
hahaha what
Which one is it? A or B?
>>684877137
i forgot the rule about multiplying parenthisessieses so ignore what i said
>>684877137
That's not a paradox, that's the fucking group theoretic definition of division, dipshit.
>>684872944
Here's the same question formatted in a less retarded way.
>>684877198
A because in B, you turned the parenthesis into a multiplication sign when it should remain a parenthesis and the 2 is distributed into it.
The distributing number is canceled out once it's divised. The quotient should not have a two before the parenthesis.
Wrong: 20/ 2 (10+10)
Correct: 20/ 10+10
Answer: 1
>>684872944
20÷2 (5+5)
20/2*10
20/20
1
You're a dumbass, you faggot anon
This is too vague and improperly written.
You guys can argue all you want, but it's either
20/(2(5+5))=1
or
(20/2)(5+5)=100
where
20/2(5+5) doesn't provide enough information to determine the proper order of operation.
>>684875272
That only applies to whatever lies INSIDE the parentheses.
>>684877198
Hey smart ass those are the same equations still same solution, how you right things doesn't affect the solution.
>>684877453
Then please, pray tell me, how would you write B?
>>684877322
doh, faggot. It's a paradox for that >>684877281
dipshit faggot
>>684873064
You're*
>>684877368
You formatted it wrong. The (5x5) should be in the denominator beside the 2 because anything next to a parenthesis stays with the parenthesis.
>>684877368
In that case, the answer is 100.
If that (5+5) was included in the denominator, it would be 1
>>684877561
cocksucking sipshit fagget whore
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=20+%2F+2(5+%2B+5)
>>684877584
biggest retard in the whole thread right here
>>684877484
i agree
>>684872944
First, this problem is written extremely poorly. It should be written like this 20/(2(5+5)). If you think about it, the 20 is in the numerator and the 2(5+5) is in the denominator or else the problem would be written as (20/2)(5+5), which it is not. Therefore the parentheses I added makes sense.
So doing the math is now easy, just PEMDAS it out.
=20/(2(5+5))
=20/(2(10))
=20/(20)
=1
OR
=20/(2(5+5))
=20/(10+10)
=20/(20)
=1
Same thing. The answer is 1.
>>684877517
Sorry to kill your vibe, but the "smart ass" is correct
>>684877673
you would agree
>>684877198
Jesus christ you're actually all 14 aren't you?
a is invalid.
The question 20/2(5+5) is exactly the same as 20 / 2 * (5+5)
There is no way that you would end up with 5+5 in the divisor.
>>684877484
it can't be the former of the two because adding parentheses makes it an entirely different equation than the one written
>>684877673
thanks anon! I guess college did something good
>>684877542
i have no idea what the fuck you are on about, the answer is A
>>684877650
Exactly, 1. Anyone else who doesn't believe, just follow this link. Thanks anon.
>>684872944
Yo, order of operations dude, the answer's 1
5+5=10
10x2+20
20÷20=1
>>684877484
>20/2(5+5)
wolfram alpha disagrees.
>>684877484
20/2 (5+5) give exactly enough to figure it out, math reads right to left, 20/2 was not originally written as its own term so having (20/2) literally came out of your ass. If it was (20/2)(5+5) you would foil.
>>684877881
A) 20 / ( 2 * ( 5 + 5) )
B) 20 / 2 * (5 +5 )
>>684872944
>20÷2 (5+5)
>20÷2 (10+10)
Why is the 2 still there if you distributed it?
Are you retarded?
20÷2 (5+5)
20÷(10+10)
20÷20
=1
>>684878010
'shopped
>>684877852
But what is provided isn't written well to begin with
No doubt these mongoloids will start saying wolfram is wrong
>>684877596
But that's wrong you faggot.
>>684878105
>>684878131
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=20%2F2(5%2B5)
>>684877596
>(5x5)
at least try to check what you post
>>684878310
Look at all of the numbers at the end of the link. I'm not stupid, that shit's a virus.
>>684872944
bait
but just google pemdas, the answer is 1.
>>684876171
top fucking kek anon
the cost of a book is $1
but
the cost of a book is a cost of a book +1/2. The book costs $1.50
The answer is 100.
>>684878064
Its A because 2(10) is done before the division. the parentheses are not needed because its redundant
ITT
20 ÷ 2(5+5)
20 ÷ 2(10)
20 ÷ 20
1
Jesus you are all so retarded it hurts
>>684872944
20/2*(5+5)
=20/2*(10) parentheses
=10*(10)
=100 multiplication/division from left to right
Do you even maths?
>>684879303
>>684879303
Pssh, can't trust a chink-made piece of shit like a CASIO. It's prolly all rusty inside. Gotta use a Real Man's TI.
I`m actually curious, who here has passed calculus 1?
>>684875506
"I use big words to make myself feel less like a faggot"
>>684879647
How dare you assign a value to that expression.
Seriously? Half of you are legitimately this retarded?
>Any time you have a number on the outside of a parenthesis without a sign, it is considered to be multiplication
The multiplication mentioned here is not included in the parenthesis priority, that only applies to anything found INSIDE the parenthesis.
Therefore, proper notation for this problem is as such:
20 / 2 * (5 + 5)
Work it out from there, faggots.
>>684879804
multiplying or dividing parenthesis takes priority over normal multi/division, go look it up its literally everywhere
>>684879495
yeah you'r right but it works..
>>684879647
>>684872944
100
/thread
>>684873844
>>684879590
"I call people faggot when I get scared because I don't like big words"
I always thought you solve what's inside the parenthesis first?
I don't know, I was never good at math nor did I go to college. That's why I'm a youtubefag waste of oxygen.
>>684877198
Those are two different equations, anon.
>>684875272
>calculators process parenthesis and multiplying as the same thing
nice troll, dude
>>684873064
So much this.
it comes down to ambiguous phrasing. if you were to get 20/2a a calculator will interpret that as 10a, but a human probably meant 20/(2a). people arguing about podmas are missing the point
>>684879090
20/2(5+5)
20/2(10)
10(10)
100
Pemdas doesn't work like that dipshit
Go chek it on Wolfram.
I hope McDonalds doesn't let you do change like how you do math.
>>684877198
WTF? You don't just take off the parenthesis. Have you ever heard about the distributive method, bitch?
20 / 2(5+5)
20 / (10+10)
20 / 20
1
>>684880315
>thinks a bunch of code performs calculations perfectly
It's 1 if you use your brain and do the math yourself FOLLOWING ORDER OF OPERATIONS
>>684872944
20/2 (5+5) following PEMDAS here
20/2(10)
20/20
1
or
20/2(5+5)
20/(10+10)
20/(20)
1
>>684880245
But the calculator would be right.
2a = 2 * a
You don't multiply the variable by 2 first without parentheses.
>>684878073
>20÷2 (5+5)
>20÷2 (10+10)
>20÷2 (20)
THIS!!
Distribute the two into the parenthesis, then solve inside the parenthesis, which gives you 20/20, which is one.
>fucking degenerates
>>684880527
everyone forgetting this fucking obvious step jesus christ
>>684880539
that bunch of code knows math better than 95% of people on /b/
proof: it got the answer as 100
this is not a mathematical problem but an computing interpretation difference
look at this>>684879647
>>684879303
>>684876539
>>684876678
>>684880527
You multiplied and divided out of order. Both operations have the precedence, so you need to divide 20 by 2 first.
>>684877954
jokes on you, answer is still 100
>>684872944
Wow. Great job OP at proclaiming your incompetence. The answer is 1
>>684880730
the answer is 1 you dumbass, wolfram and every other calculator need you to enter in extra brackets. when you have brackets like 2(5+5) its (10+10) because that takes priority in order of operations over the division
>>684880921
No if there is a fucking parenthesis in the multiplication, then you have to use the distributive first.
>>684880539
>https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=20+%2F+2(5+%2B+5)
WAKE UP SHEEPLE AMIRITE?
>>684880527
>You don't just take off the parentheses
>distribution
Using distribution properly it's
20/2(5+5)
20/2(10)
10(10)=100
You're approaching the equation by looking at the parentheses first, which is a bad habit that I blame schools for. Distribution is a neat trick, but PEMDAS means you have to solve the equation from left to right, starting with 20/2.
is the problem 20/2(5+5) the same as (20/2) * (5+5)?
If so the answer comes out as 100.
>>684872944 100
>>684872944
you're all wrong
20 / 2(5+5)
20 / 2(5) + 2(5)
20 / 2 (5) + 2(5)
10(5) + 2(5)
12(5)
17
http://www.classroomprofessor.com/teaching-math/why-did-74pc-of-facebook-users-get-this-wrong/
>>684880570
yes the calculator is right strictly. but when writing it out 2a and 2*a are not always the same thing. omitting the * generally groups the terms together, so 2a=(2*a). The real fault is writing the expression in a way that can be interperetted in more than one way
>>684881128
Let's turn the divison into a multiplication such that we can evaluate in any order:
(20) * (2^-1) * (5+5)
Now evaluate it.
>>684881171
Fuck I mean yes look at the parentheses first, but don't consider numbers outside of them first as well.
This equation is the same as 20 / 2 * (5+5), but the way it's phrased throws people off.
>>684881171
ugh dude just go look it up, distribution comes before regular div/mul because it falls under the parenthesis order
>>684881051
you realize 2(5+5) is not the same as 2(5)+2(5) right? You seem to think it is.
>>684872944
It's 1
O N E
N
E
You raging faggots.
>>684873373
>the goyim expect me to read from left to right
>>684881180
I mean, technically, that's not how you're supposed to right it, but yeah, it is.
>>684880923
That is making the division into a fraction. If it was a fraction, the answer would be 100. But it's represented as division, which is two separate numbers. Thus making it 1. The way it's represented makes a difference. Yes, fractions are division, but when it comes to calculators, they're picky like that. 20÷2(5+5) is one, but 20/2(5+5) is 100.
>>684881470
I looked it up. I'm correct. Fuck this bait.
>we have a thread with hundreds of replies debating the order of operations
>>684878605
Except the equation is x = 1 + x/2
Solve this. Protip: answer isn't 1.50.
>>684881555
>20
ye it ure from dumbland
>>684876116
>Nice troll friend :^)
>>684881353
Strictly is all that counts. If you want them grouped first, no matter where it is, it should have parentheses. I was actually taught to do that in algebra for that reason.
>>684881471
lol what? 2(5+5) is simplified to 2(10), then solved as 20
>>684881471
these are exactly the same fucking thing. I don't even know where you start with you.
>>684881555
TRIPS OF TRUTH
>>684872944
You distributed the 2 properly, but then you just left it there running amuck.
Sloppy at best.
Try again.
>>684881619
you are fucking retarded then if you think you found anything that proves you are right
>>684882005
You need to divide 20 by 2 first. Parenthesis in PEMDAS only means what is inside the parenthesis.
>>684881180
if you don't know about how 2(5+5) counts as a full parenthesis item then OPs equation works, if you are like 90% of the people in this thread its 20/(2*(5+5))
>>684882074
They actually aren't. They lead to the same answer, but in an equation, they can lead to vastly different results.
It's 1...
>>684873064
OP IS A FUCKING FAGGOT BAIT RETARDED
I TOOK BAIT 0.000000000000000000000001/10
>>684882409
distribution comes before regular multipl/div, im done arguing with your dumbass go google proper orders, this stuff goes beyond the grade 5 math you only ever got
>>684872944
thats a very convoluted way of asking what 10 times 10 is.
>>684874999
Why do you use a cheep broken calculator?
>>684872944
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=20%2F2(5%2B5)
/thread
>>684882824
i understand why it thinks its 100 now, thread was good learning experience
so does that mean 1+1=200?
>>684882942
>s th
sortaof
>>684881951
yes but it can be argued that omitting the * does group them together, without the need for parentheses. so ab/cd = (ab)/(cd), not (abd)/c as a calculator would assume. so i would interpret the OP question as 1. obviously OP's expression should be written unambiguously
>>684872944
this is why you arent a mathematician
It just lacks information. You need parentheses. It could mean 20/(2(10)) or it could mean (20x2)(10).
The are plenty of different fancy acronyms, PEMDAS, PEDMAS, BEDMAS, BIDMAS.
Regardless, if you were to solve an actual fucking problem, like engineering problem, the order would be obvious anyways as long as all your braincells are functioning.
Dipshits. I learned this math in fifth grade.
20/2(5+5) ------ distributive property
20/10+10 ------- now pretend this is a fraction, add 10+10
20/20 ------- do math now
1 is your answer.
>>684883399
>883399
>>684873535
Bedmas faggot
PEMDAS is not the law, it is just a helpful set of guidelines for solving most arithmetic problems. So you can't cite it as a reason for anything.
This post, even aside from the stupidity that went on with the second line there, is blatant bait because of this usage of the division symbol. It could be interpreted as:
>20 / (2 * (5 + 5)) = 1
or
>(20 / 2) * (5 + 5) = 100
and neither option would be incorrect. The usage of ÷ as an operation is inherently vague. We cannot decide on the answer to this question because the question is made poorly.
So stop making threads like this you shits.
>>684883700
that filename tho
>>684883700
/thread
>>684876171
>What is the Cost of a book that costs 1$ plus half of its price?
2$
Its interpretive. The answer could be 100 or it could be 1, depending on how you view the equation.
>>684884074
1+(1*0.5)
>>684876171
>What is the Cost of a book that costs 1$ plus half of its price?
>its
Ah, the tricky vague "its". You could be referring to the book, in which case it would cost $2, or the dollar, in which case the book would cost a $1.50. Clever.
I love wasting my time
>>684876171
x=1+.5x x=cost
answer is 2
>>684873582
AP Calc student. You're right here, you distribute 2(5+5) to become (10+10)
>>684884431
oh yea didn't catch on to that sneakiness, yeap no answer to that question
It's 12, distributive property and order of operations dipshit
>pic related
Would these two items not be mathematically equivalent. Then solve. At least this is what I remember from basic Algebra.
I see how I could be wrong considering there aren't parenthesis around the entirety of (2(5+5)), but I'm just assuming that converting to fractions would be a viable solution in substitution for the division sign.
>>684884495
seriously fucking hate this site and how i get drawn into these threads but at least today i learned something
>>684884439
Calculators adds automatically parenthesis on 20/2.
The real answer doing division first is:
20
__________
2(5+5)