If you want a real MOBA, go play Paragon.

70 on console? no
40 on PC? yes

>>684789971
Paragon is actual garbage.
Overwatch is an arena FPS, not a MOBA.
GTFO with your 12 year old opinions.

>>684790163
This.

>>684790612
Are you triggered ?

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>>684789870
No but it will sell.
They have decent advertisement and blizzardfags are dedicated as fuck to the company.

Over-rated, tedious gameplay despite gimmicky moba-like characters. Hence "tf2 clone"

If they released this at 10-20 dollars or as a ftp with cosmetic microtransactions they would've been better off.

>>684790763
It's a fun game.
Stay mad faggot.

>>684789870
Battleborn is better

I highly recommend Battleborn as well on PC. Overwatch is still pending content. Skip Paragon, it's not even really a shooter. You can get "ranged" attacks that go about 10 feet in front of your character. Tis very pretty, but gameplay is crap. Lame since these are the guys that made Unreal Tournament.

Save up for a ~$500PC if your parents got you a console.

>>684789870
-No ranked right out of the gate, this means there won't be the chaos of "ELO-hell" everywhere, with players not being where they should be, etc.
-Smooth, fun gameplay w/ good design
-Tons of characters, and they're making more
-Pay wall locks out most 10 year old faggots
-Rewarding loot box system

"ermahgerd dis is TF2 clone so baad"
Either give the game a chance, actually look into it and see if its for you or not, or stop posting these shitty opinions.
Given, it's not the best game ever or anything, and probably not worthy of the hype it has, but it's a lot of fun, feels rewarding, and has great polish.

>>684790932
Hang yourself in your Living room.

It's a MOBA. It's going to sell like it's a new iPhone in NoCal.

Worth seventy bucks? Fuck no. It's a MOBA. I wouldn't pay more than $10 to play the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and then get ganged up on by 13 year old vapefags because I died once.

>>684790932
Please an hero, even if this is bait.

>>684790885
He didn't sound mad. I loved the game and I can agree with him. All the shit you can unlock by leveling ... Just imagine if they made you pay for it.

>>684789870
I'd say it's worth the 40$

>>684791091
>>684791168
It has more content and it isn't made by weeaboos

>>684789870
Played the shit out of the open beta, best multiplayer I have played since the release of CS:GO.

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>>684791010
>I highly recommend Battleborn

>>684791248
Less content and made by actual fucking MLP cocksuckers. The piece of shit actually looks like Wildstar and 90s cartoons had an autistic baby. Kill yourself, you probably pay EA for FIFA

>>684791025
This guy knows what's up. People don't give something a chance anymore. Everyone wants streamlined facts and what's the fastest way to do or avoide something. How about you actually keep an open mind and just go play it.

Its worth 40

>>684791445
"Just go play it" doesn't exactly work for paid games, but I agree. It's why before I buy something I don't look for reviews, I look for gameplay. No commentary, no ratings, just gameplay videos.

>>684789870
IMO, no

its fun but nothing special, I imagine neckbeards will love it more than life however due to the characters and neckbeards simple nature

implying tf2 is half decent

Overwatch is just better guys, just deal with it..

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>>684790885
It is fun. But tedium implies it is tiresome and monotonous. The same reason I stopped playing call of duty.

The game needs to work to abandon traditional fps settings if they're attempting to adopt these characters with skillsets in a moba style.

For the potential these character types have it is a waste to see them in such linear game modes and maps.

Place them in a larger map with rotating objective locations and objective types. Forcing players to draw the most out of their characters, their teammates, and themselves to adapt to each given situation.

>>684792162
Not even close to as balanced as tf2, nor does it have custom shit like tf2
You're a blizzdrone.

>>684789870
just watch some gameplay videos/guides and then make your choice

>>684791025
tons of character and lootbox is fake content IMO and by that I mean its not really adding anytihng, they just make you do the same thing over

take LOL for example, they release new characters all the time but that is not really content to me, its just a different way of doing the same thing, I gained nothing from it

if anything it is worse for balance as many characters make balance harder

>>684789870
ITT: taking the bait

>>684792337
This

>>684792162
Aaaaaand no.. I disagree. Overwatch is pretty good but it's way too strategic and team work dependent. People play vidya to relax not thinking even more l. I'm not saying tf2 isn't strategic, it's just not as much as overwatch. That's my point of view

>>684790763
>decent advertisement
Coca-cola has decent advertisement.
This game has a big enough advertising budget to basically let them buy the game for you, but instead they're making a bunch of pixar-level movies and crushing cars in the street.

>>684789870
Buy the cheapest version on PC you dumb faggot it's 40 dollars.

If you still play console in 2016 then just kill yourself.

>>684792279
>Place them in a larger map with rotating objective locations and objective types.
I hate when games do this though. If you're going for more depth I'd rather see parallel objectives like in Heroes of the Storm.

>>684792924
>I hate when
>I hate
>I

Played the beta. Felt like a dumbed down version of tf2. Made me wonder why people would rather by that shit than play tf2 when it's free.

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>>684789870
Nope, not even close.

>>684789870
>Overshill

Blizzard knows how to get money

>>684793243
because tf2 servers where i live are dead and i sold all my items to buy fallout 4.

Justice rains from above!

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>>684789870
it is

It's good, but if I see anyone using hanzo and hear that faggot fucking dragon attack once, I assume there a no skills female or 12 year old ass fuck who wants easy kills and play of the game cam...... Same with bastion, faggot ducking characters

>>684792486
Not that anon, but that's exactly what I want. This game is just legitimately better. The only thing it is lacking is cosmetic content(hats lol), more maps and some kind of equivalent to Mann Versus Machine.

>>684789870
Yes it is, but only on PC

I literally will never ever touch team fortress 2 because it just looks so god damned awful that it can't be fun.

>>684790680
>looking for validation when baiting

>>684789870
It's fun, but...
No. After thirty minutes of open beta, I'd reached the entire breadth of the game, and after four hours, I saw the bottom.

Ripoffwatch has the breadth and depth of a glass of water, and until they actually add interesting characters or mechanics, this shit is hardly worth €10,-.

You can get literally the same game, but better executed, for free by downloading TF2.

>>684789870
yea play your tf2 with all these motherfucking children and one shot lasers totally good game

>>684792697
This.

>>684789870
Im gonna be tottally honest, i think its very fun.
It's the best un released game i have played so far the last 5 years.
But only numbers will tell how far Overwatch will go once it is released.
The open beta had 9,7 million players.

>>684789870
People buying this instead of playing free unreal tournament 4

>>684790763
You are a huge faggot... Your observation about blizzfans are right, but what you said about the game is fucking retarded.

If that shooter couldn't please you then something isn't wrong with the game.

Something is wrong with you.

its too similar to league and dota, they may as well have called it league of legends 2 not worth a single penny. league is free so is dota play one of those.

all these fuckers who are crying about overwatch is a tf2 are these kid who spend like 1k in these unbalanced fuck game

>>684794330
You realize league is basically all but gone now right?

>>684794455

and you get that info where?

>>684790763
So much this. Although I think it's just a shit shooter with no real personality

>>684791025
Agreed.

Give the game a real chance, and unbiased chance, where you're not sitting there trying to compare it to TF2 right off the bat.

Just shut the fuck up and enjoy it and stop being butthurt that their model is similar to another game.. WHO THE FUCK CARES?!

Since when has it been ok to totally invalidate something just because it's similiar to something else.... Not just that...

But similar to something I already enjoy....

So are you shitposting faggots saying I should enjoy the game? In that case, cheers. Otherwise go eat a bag of dicks.

>>684794428
this
>>684794330
> shooter is like MOBA

>>684791025
Played it. It was shit shit shit

>>684794294
I agree with you anon.
>>684794330
No you are wrong faggot.

>>684791168
Better game. Isn't made by a company that makes shit games and gets away with it because of millions of faggot fan boys like yourself

>>684794560
Life, I experience it and the feeling is that it's reached its limit and is about to fall off. It will fade away and be forgotten.

>>684794294
fanboy talk "its not the product, its you because the product is perfect for everyone always and can't be at fault!"

that is what you said, literally what you said, but more direct and clear, and if you still don't see why that is wrong then you are beyond saving

>>684790932
Found the 2k shill.

That game is just a fucking rehashed borderlands turned arena fps.

I liked borderlands, enjoyed the story and the artwork...

But their mechanics EAT SHIT ALL FUCKIN DAY.

>>684792924
Wow your such a blizzard cockgargler that you actually play hots I bet you think Diablo 3 was the best Diablo game too

>>684789870
The main problem for me with overwatch is:
>Overloaded advertisements that just spam Tracer because of the butt pose or whatever
>Tooooo many classes with similar abilities
>Underpowered classes are common
>People are so used to being able to carry their team in TF2 that nobody helps each other
>Looks ugly
>Sounds ugly

>>684794657
people care because they don't have eternity of cash, it is natural to compare similar games, especially when one is free.

the game that costs money have to offer something substantially better to be able to get away with the extra costs, and yet a lot of people, myself included, do not feel overwatch give you that and for people who might be in the same boat, they should save their money for the time being, the game might get better in the future, and on sale etc and thus make it a more viable option

>>684795039
Diablo 3
>"great game"
>#bestDiablo
lel, but an honest opinion diablo 2 was brutal as fuck, toobad they didnt make it with d3

>>684791765
Hey... Remember how pretty much every free to play community in existence sucks dick cause it's flooded with 12 year old whiny/edgy/angsty fags?

REMEMBER TF2 BEFORE IT WENT F2P....

Get off your lazy ass, make some fucking money, and just go play it.

I'm thankful for that pay wall.

Too bad this is a pretty timid game as far as gore and sex goes so parents will start buying it for their kids.

>>684794294
It's a tf2 clone get over it. It isn't original

>>684795055
Well it doesn't look or sound ugly so that's wrong, I'm glad there aren't any "God" characters that basically you pick them and GG I'm unkillable and you die always hurr durr. And sure some of the characters have similar roles but EACH one plays different.

>>684795211
TF2 wasn't always free retard...

There was a good lonnng time there where valve was raking it in, so much so that they decided to sell on xbox too.

>>684795226
That time was the best, p2p is still the best model.
When it became f2p all 12 year old little faggots started to flod the game.

>>684795211
Also, it's not that much fuckin money.

Jesus, you don't even have to fucking work to get that.

There's a plasma donation center near my school that will pay you 60 bucks a week.

That's how im paying for the game.

What's your excuse?

>>684795258
he probably meant the style/direction they went with it

just because the resolution is HD does not make it pretty

>>684795251
>2016-wants originality

Your a fucking autistic ham planet if you think ANYTHING will ever be original anymore. Until you get new minds in the companies making these games, all were gonna get is rehashed bullshit over and over. I've given up on originality ages ago. Now it's just about which coat of paint looks prettiest.

>>684795251
Nothing ever is you fucking retard.

Even concepts used in Team fort were taken from other games... oh and guns... and shooting... SO FUCKIN ORIGINAL IN THE FIRST PLACE RIGHT?!

>>684795217
The last 4 or 5 blizzard games have been such steaming piles of shit they waste no effort in marketing to make this game seem "polished" and "balanced " when in reality it lacks all semblance of those characteristics

>>684795329
what it was does not matter you inbred mong.

if I had none of these two games and wanted to get one of them today, one would be free, one would be expensive.

that TF2 cost money when it got released in 2007 is pointless to bring up

>>684795429
I would have spent that money on food

>>684795429
because every single person is in your exact shoes.

in the US people have to get state benefits even with a job, situation is fucking shit here, and if you save up for something nice you get attacked for it "oh, you can buy new games, you don't need this money I paid you in form of tax"

disregarding I spent two months being able to afford it

>>684795651
Expensive hahaha ok europoor.
We don't need your peasant stink, reeking up our servers anyways. People like you can't afford good internet so it would plague us with of which would bring the over all feel of the game down anyway. Please, stay on tf2, we don't need you here nigger

>>684795889
see
>>684795883

>>684795055
>opinion
>opinion
>retarded fucking opinion, every hero plays rock paper scissors with a couple others, every hero can be trumped by someone else.
>agreed teamfort fags who ironically do not actually know how to play teamwork suck at this game...why do you list it like its a bad thing this game requires real teamwork and doesnt cater to tf2 cunts?
>retarded fucking opinion. If anything the graphics are one of the best things, I don't know what your issue is.
>eh... better sountrack wouldn't hurt.

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i should spend these 60 $ for csgo or tf2 cases

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>>684795594
They have not been too great, but you are not far from the truth. The games they pushed out could be alot better, wow is an great example, how a good game turned into shit because they listend to plebs and casuals.

>>684795889
Meant to say "plague us with lag" I'm not retarded. Just typed too fast.
Nigger

>>684796056
my connection is American
again, see
>>684795883

>>684795651
Yeah but honestly... I did the open beta and...

THESE TWO GAMES PLAY NOTHING ALIKE.... FUCKING NOTHING.

The mechanics are on a whole other level. To compare this to TF2 in the first place is like comparing apples and oranges.

>>684795994
topkek

Right?

Faggots be acting like it wrong for blizzard to ask you a one time fee of 60 bucks...

When valve will make you pay 15 bucks for a digital hat that doesn't do anything to your characters performance....

>>684790163
What he said

>>684796197
I love Overwatch but I think you're wrong. They are very similar. Even the color palette is the same level of vibrancy. The game is half payload maps and king of the hill. It's the same genre of game. Honestly, my first, second and third take on the game was that it was an updated TF2-type arena shooter with a MOBA skill set system and more focus on teamwork and strategy. I've been wanting something like that for a long while and this game scratched that itch. TF2 got old.

>>684789870
People who shit on the game usually haven't played it. I fucking hate blizzard but they put some good work into overwatch. It's a lot of fun; there's no hero that isn't fun to play. If you enjoy team based competitive games and can't justify spending 40-60 dollars on the game, you're a poorfag

>>684796046
The same statement goes for Diablo and starcraft as well. They fucking killed those games to appease retards with low skillcap.

What they did to Diablo was even worse though. They completely destroyed the skill/item/stat system that made Diablo 2 unique and amazing to begin with. Fucking all damage coming from the weapon lol fucking retards actually thought that was a good idea.

Look where those blizzard games are now though. Anyone seen them recently asides from wow SC2 is dead especially in terms of pop same with Diablo.

Because they are shit. Same thing will happen to overwatch. But they won't kill it the way Diablo did (Diablo was dead on arrival ) no they will kill it the way they killed starcraft with lots of bad unjustified "balancing"

Isn't Battleborn (From makers of Borderlands) the current competitor of Overwatch though? TF2 is dead

>>684795039
Diablo 3 was shit on release. They've changed enough that it's actually quite good now. Though my fav will be Diablo II with the Eastern Sun mod. I haven't actually played Overwatch as I'm not a fan of shooters, but I'll probably get it at some point.

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>>684790763
>If they released this at 10-20 dollars
>Blizzard ever releasing any product at 10-20 dollars
>This kid doesnt have the money to spend

Get a job? Tons of gas stations and fast food places are hiring. Krogers even doing walk in interviews son.

>>684794657
This

Long time tf2 player here.

Overwatch is pretty much tf3. Valve isn't making a sequel so this is unfortunately all we have. On some levels it's as good as tf2, on some not as good. The games main flaws are a lack of game modes to play and a lack of depth to the classes. Sometimes it feels like my character doesn't have enough abilities/weapons etc and I never had that feeling in tf2. Other than that, it's pretty much tf3.

I had fun playing the beta and I'll probably buy the game.

>>684796686
The beta has been in progress for a long time and there was only one instance of major balancing to a hero that the community didn't completely take to. Thus far, blizzard's track record regarding making changes to overwatch is very solid.

>>684796768
Pretty much this....

Now to lend credit where it's due.

TF2 paved the way for games like Overwatch.

Blizzard just took the model and expanded on it way more than valve ever planned to do with TF2.

>>684797263
This

>>684789870
I played the beta and it was really fun, i like how smooth the gameplay was. Also it looks great... but um you expect me to pay 60 bucks for multiplayer? what? "Overwatch has no single player but theres story in the characters." no fuck you. fuck you. fuck you. im paying 40 extra dollars for 20 dollars worth of content? what? please someone tell me theres more to this game than loot boxes and 6v6s. anyone?

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this game is fast fun and so many different heroes to play

blizzard just did it again

i just played tracer through the whole beta and left cs go and dota games just because i couldn´t stop thinking about overwatch

everybody who dislikes this game is a retarded brainfaggot, who should kill himself

because this game is the shit

>>684797416
What did you fucking expect retard?

>>684797503
because this game is the shit
>you misspelled overpriced

>>684797416
so far thats it, one of the reasons I advice people to wait it out a bit for the game to mature so we can get a proper look

>>684796197
Dude... you say they're very similar... and for maps maybe i can agree.. but I think you can also agree that team fort didn't invent those fucking things.

But as for everything else... Movement is totally different... you can't compare genji to the scout just cause they're both "fast" characters....

you can't compare widowmaker, who can see through walls, to the fucking sniper...

I can go on and on but I got class...

Dude just look at what you yourself said... You say theyre similar, then after talking about maps you list reasons why overwatch is different....

>>684797567
that the price matched the content?

>>684797567
um content? it just blows my mind how jewy they are.

Overwatch is a lot of fun for several hours. That's it though

>>684797567
An amazing full moba experience for free or not $70 dollars. Worked for Dota, sure it will continue to make more money with it's free game than overwatch will.

>>684797416
This is a competitive game. TF2 doesn't have single player; counter strike doesn't have single player. What a mongoloid

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>>684789870
>only 40$ on pc, pleb
>not really that much of a clone, it has plenty of differences that smart people can identify

Yeah I'll get it because I've got buddies to play it with. You probably shouldn't buy since you probably don't have.

>>684797131
there will be less customization for characters (like 0 besides cosmetics) but there WILL be more characters in the future for sure. (I'm expecting a Spy-kind of guy)

>>684792477
oh shit waddup

>>684797503
just did it again?

when was last time?

also: if anyone is a retard its you who like the game because you have the hots for a character in it

the game is nothing special so far IMO

actually I feel overwatch is one of those titles that would be completely ignored if it was released by a nobody, but since it was blizz that dropped it people see it differently, especially the fanbois

>>684797160
That's not a good track record. Look at their other games. Not a good track record.

Stupid fanboy

>>684797816
It's not a moba. It's a competitive arena fps with elements that play to the moba genre

>>684797829
of course its competitive but that doesnt justify $40 worth of missing content. fanboy.

>>684792477
oh shit waddup

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>>684789870
I had fun during the open beta, for 6 hours. Once you have played a bit with each character the game gets boring due to shallow gamplay and low number of maps. Also only 2 game modes.

I'll play it every now and then if it were free or buy it for cheap, like 10 or maybe 20 American dollars.

An unmoddable, online only FPS with few content never worth $40.

>>684797131
>lack of game modes
Has about as much as TF2 and blizz has said more are coming
>Lack of class depth.
They're doing a series of short films that explain the characters and worlds history...and they're doing it seriously. Not like Teamforts obvious comedic efforts.
>Not enough abilities/weapons
Most of the weapons in teamfort did not exist at the time of its creation... And by the games very design the characters have more abilities than teamfort characters do....

Are you fuckin retarded or have you just not even tried the game?

>>684797947
I said their track record with regards to overwatch

>>684789870
40$ on pc bro

>>684798040
>missing content
>there is no missing content

>>684789870
Played it on PC during the open beta with some friends and i had more fun than playing some 60$ Battlefield, because you can play really cool combos like mercy + pharrah: pharrah jumps into the air and mercy can follow her and using slow fall, you can fly for a long time and get out of danger easily or get into the middle of a teamfight.
things like that and obviously more are worth the 40$ for me personally

>>684797709
and you should look at the actual effect the classes/characters have on the game instead of comparing single features of the class/character

>>684796826
Diablo 3 skill/item/weapon system still sucks ass. Your weapon should not be the only modifier of damage. That fag lord team thought they were better than the d2 team.

Diablo is dead has been dead will be dead forever because of Blizzard Activision same for all future ips and sequels

OH SHIT WHADDUP

>>684797996
They've spent many millions in order for me and everyone around to know what Overwatch is, I know what overwatch is lol.

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>>684797652
$40? are you seriously that much of a fucking poorfag?

>>684798256
So why did you call it a moba

>>684798256
>I know what Overwatch is
>doesn't even understand the proper genre the game is
OK pal

>>684797829
I paid 10$ for CS:GO, TF2 was free, overwatch is full price as if it included a 10 hour singleplayer campaign with a good story and interesting plot, but without actually adding these things

>>684798379
>this

>>684789870
I think it's fun personally, I'm just sick of a few of the characters that are in the game....like Bastion

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>>684798074
>he thinks "class depth" means "character lore"

And you dare to call the other guy retarded?

>>684798395
>thinking 40$ is alot
Wew lad, that life must suck.

>>684798395
Extra money doesn't mean extra content. It just costs more money. It's not the game's fault you're poor as shit

>comparing waifuwatch with hat sim 2007

Both are good games, what the fuck is the problem?

>>684790163
agreed,i have no idea why consolefags buy expensive editions...

>70$
dude g2a is invented

>>684789870
Blizzar tf3 seems good

>>684792915
agreed

>>684798074
Get out lorefag, escape reality somewhere else.

>>684794120

Yep you're triggered.

>>684798076
I don't judge a company based on a small amount of time in a game that's in beta but in what they do after the game is released.

They did the same thing with SC2.

It was a solid release well balanced well worked our and thought of. But then the patches came in. For every noob that got killed by a 3-4 move easily avoidable checkmate there was a new nerf.

Same thing will happen to overwatch mark my words.

But besides from that I simply am not interested in a shooter that has this many shit characteristics built into it at the start. It's like destiny all fucking over again

>>684793971
I find it offensive that Hanzo can shoot outside your hitbox and still hit you.

>>684798151
man the bait is real kek but ill bite. this game is like buying a Bugatti with no wheels or engine at full price.

holy shit didnt know there were so many bli$$ard cocksuckers here

enjoy ur shit game while ure being cheated again by the worst money grabbing shit company that exists

>>684798337
hahahaha youre an idiot!

>>684799011
This. ITT Fanbois

>>684798996
>someone disagrees with me
>must be bait

>>684799011
Ok.

>>684798864
He has the slowest fire rate in game and the only character with projectiles that have drop (junk rat doesn't count since he's using grenades) so give him somethin, huh?

>>684799011
This guy gets it 1000%

>>684799101
Please go

>>684799011
EA is worse.

>Sell under developed games with 4 expansions and then abandon it when the next under developed game arrives.

>>684792477
oh shit waddup

>>684797567
what do you get for 70$?

does it come with some skins and mounts?

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>>684799011
It's one thing to be butthurt about your own wasted money, but being butthurt about other people's actions is just downright retarded.

>>684799157
well i mean were both on here so baiting is a thing and your argument is really dumb so i can only assume.

>>684799192
Now see here is an example of why this is a shit game. You think because one aspect of a character is hard that another should be easier. Fucking filthy casuals are why the game already sucks

>>684790763
>ever approving of micro transactions

Go fucking kill yourself, holy shit. They're going to release all future maps and characters for free.

>>684799260
I would also put Ubisoft shit under blizzard, but none of that makes blizzard any less shit lately.

>>684789870
Well, it is actually fun to play, unlike the abomination that is TF2. Also, if it is $70 you live in a shit hole and should either consider moving, or commit suicide.

>>684799219
no you please go!

>>684799260
No blizzard is much worse. At least ea is capable of releasing good games from time to time past 5 Blizzard releases were steaming piles of shit

>>684799372
You get a videogame. I am sorry your parents won't buy it for you.

I pretty much buy every game regardless of reviews/opinions. I don't really care, and I got $ to spend. So why are you all mad at something no one it's forcing you to buy? Does it make you feel better? Lol.

>>684798490
it is not a lot compared to what I have in my account, but it is a lot compared to the value I expect to get from a videogame at that price and thus not worth the money.

take mobile phones as an example, would you pay full price for a phone with a broken screen?

sure you could easily afford it, it cost the same as the other brand with a functioning screen, but obviously when you compared the two only one was worth the money

I'm just not a moron, I think before I spend my money

people don't become wealthy by being careless with their money either

>>684799419
>not understanding sarcasm
Nigga, quit being so triggered. I was joking anyway, the hit boxes do need to be fixed.

Quit gettin all faggy about casuals too, this is a casual game. If you wanna be a super leet hardcore faggot, go play Quake or Tribes or Battlefield

>>684799445
Blizzard is a part of Ubisoft

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>>684789870
It's $40 not $70

>>684799392
You must be at least 16. Stop complaining about prices and get your first job

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>>684798996
Except it's not. Missing content would be like Street Fighter 5. SF5 has nothing but PvP pretty much and a small character roster. They said they will consider an Arcade mode, and the Story mode will be added at a later date, and we have to pay for extra characters. Overwatch has more maps, gamemodes, and characters than that, and all DLC characters, maps, and gamemodes will be free once they release.

>>684798457
Well, that's cause your bad.

>>684798587
>Extra money doesn't mean extra content. It just costs more money

exactly the problem, its like buying a iphone instead of getting a nexus phone, its not about the cost of the product, its about being smart with your money

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>>684799622
Activision

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>>684799011
Blizzard isn't EA

>>684799380
well I bought diablo 3 so I know what Im talking about

never again

>>684789870
>is this tf2 clone wroth 70$??
$70? tha fuck? where?

i have my doubts it's worth $40, even though i enjoyed the game much, MUCH more than i thought i would.

>>684799673
clearly im 16 by not wanting to get ripped off? explain?

Overwatch is better than TF2 in almost all margins so far. I was an anti-overwatch fag because Blizzard was gay. However, playing the open beta was so much fun that I had to buy it.

The characters in Overwatch aren't very specific niches like those from TF2, which allows all the players to have a more diverse choice in what they want to do. All the characters are balanced as well, and serve a purpose. The demo and soldier in TF2 are practically interchangeable with a good player. The ultimate skills also reward good players, and add a reason to not die every 20 seconds.

Overall, I enjoy overwatch more than TF2.

>>684799727
why? PvP is coming in 1.10!

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>>684799541
here in europe it costs 40€

and you can pay 60€ for some extras, but that´s optional

>>684799621
The reason the hit boxes are such shit is because the servers are shit with a low ass tick rate

>>684799742
ignore tards like that. not wasting money on shit is a good thing.

i bet the guy bought every iphone.

>>684799727
lol, and that's the best blizzard game to come out in years.

>>684799260
release of warlords of draenor?

seriously, a bigger fuck you to a gaming community have never been given.

>>684799749
This. Now get ready for the storm of TF2 fan boys to swarm in and berate you for spending money on something they don't like. Kek

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>>684799749
>All the characters are balanced as well, and serve a purpose

>>684799693
Or you can just buy something and have fun and stop complaining. If you don't like the game, don't buy it

>>684799862
>servers are shit
>gameplay is shit because blizzard sucks at servers

Nice logic, dick breath

It's much deeper than tf2. Much better as well.

>>684799898
Its true.

>>684789870
Absolutely not. Doesn't have any kind of replay value. Gets boring after about 30 games.

>>684799941
>not being able to counter bastion
You fuckin noob lmao

>>684799011
I didn't know trey arc or infinity ward or activist on was releasing over watch. Thanks for the heads up m8

>>684799941
Genji, Junkrat, and pretty much anyone behind a Reinhart sheild can kill bastian. It's not the game's fault that people are too retarded to switch and kill him.

>>684799749
>All the characters are balanced as well
Stopped reading right there go away Blizzard shill your drunk

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>>684799941
>not being able to kill a bastion
>he doesnt play junkrat

>>684799673
I have a product I want to sell you, disregard that it is very overpriced, this bag of rice can be yours for only 2000 usd, if you don't buy its only because you are poor and dont have a job, not because you think the price is too much for what you get, no no

>>684789870
No. I had it gifted to me on launch and got about 54 hours in before I realized that there was nothing else to the game.
Just like every other FPS it's tedious and boring.

>>684800119
How about you counter my argument with actual points, you fucking idiot.

This is the only Blizzard game I own and play, and I think their company is shit in general. I am arguing for the game, not that company.

>>684799951
The life of an online game revolves around servers you autistic shit

>>684799683
*subject to change. also im paying 40$ for new characters and maps? wow so that should be about 15 new characters and 20 new maps? because that sounds reasonable. but really its gunna be 5 new characters and 10 maps. but besides that cant wait to play 1/3 of a game and play 2/3s months later.

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ITT
>Overwatch is a clone of TF2
>Overwatch is so boring and dull
>TF2 is infinitely fun and interesting and never gets boring
>even though they're exactly the same game, r-right?

It's hilarious how you wanna call it a clone of tf2, then call it boring and dull, just like the game it's a clone of.

>>684799944
did you read the topic of the thread you replied to?

if you don't want to be in a thread that is discussing this then you should leave

>>684800103
>It's not the game's fault that people are too retarded to switch and kill him.
I'm not sure if it's right to have ONE character that requires you to switch - everyone else you can handle without doing so.

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>>684799941
>pick tracer
>get ulti
>bomb him
>rewind
>are you that fucking retarded boy?
srsly?
how dumb can you be?
tactics aren´t your thing are they?
that´s just one way
you don´t even need the ulti

>>684797829
>tf2: free
>cs:go: <20$

>>684799870
being smart with money obviously means your poor. also it means you only own 1 android phone.

>>684800255
>the servers are shit, so the gameplay is shit
Your initial argument was that the gameplay sucks. But your current argument is that the servers suck.

Servers =/= gameplay

The rocket league servers sucked at first, now they're rock solid. And I dare you to tell me that game sucks.

If you're too young to differentiate between connection issues and inherent gameplay flaws, then you're too young for 4chins.

+Really dinamic
+Fin
+Múltiple game modes and more will be added, same with the characters
+SFM material

-Bastion

>>684800254
Shit tick rate
unbalanced characters
Shit map design (revolves around choke points)

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>>684789971
>overwatch
>MOBA

>>684800183
Your comparisons are worlds apart. If you think it's fun and you're not gonna spend 40 bucks because it has no single player campaign (which would be nonsensical in an arena fps), it's because your mom and dad won't buy you the game

>>684800254
so a team of reinhart is balanced? because i can tell you from experience, its a shitty time.

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>>684798725
Since when did appreciating lore in games become a bad trait? I'd rather play a game with good backstory and characters even if it meant wonky gameplay.

>>684800254
you claimed they were balanced, prove your claim.

blizzard is not known for balance and have struggled and failed at it with wow from the beginning and up to this date, but somehow you think we should believe your word alone when you make the claim about this game?

You make the claims, you bring the proof, you don't get to sit there and question those doubting you when you have presented nothing to support you

>>684800436
are you telling me you're such shit at Bastion you can't kill some random tracer with 150HP?

>>684800183
thank you kek

>>684800340
Just because one character pretty much requires switching doesn't mean that is a bad thing. The game is built around constant switching.

Plenty of other counters exist, and they are much more effective than just anyone against that character. Winston at short range wrecks most people, so a Reinhart or Roadhog is needed to counter that.

>>684800334
Is discussing not what I was doing you mong?

>>684800492
ok, so gameplay does suffer as a result, you proved his point, now stop being a retard.

sure it can be fixed in the future (regardless of what is the cause) but its still a real problem today

>>684800340
>the game is designed for switching heros on the fly, for many situations

You're meant to switch your hero up throughout matches depending on the situation. Stop trying to play it like tf2 and use the same guy over and over.

Having a dynamic roster for matches is not a bad thing at all.

>>684799673
>here is this desk for 20 dollars
>here is the a very similar desk for 90 dollars
>'does it have any advantages over the first one?'
>'no'
>'hurr I'll get the second one just to show people that I'm not poor'

>>684800606
just because you say something does not make it true, the last time I got anything from my parents was christmas 2012.

>>684800452
All I'm getting from this is that your neetbucks check for the month hasn't arrived yet

>>684800778
you asked the people who was discussing on topic to stop complaining and it seemed like you did so because you disagreed.

>>684800789
You're still dodging the truth that

Gameplay =/= server connection

Obviously gameplay can suffer, but it's not the games fault. I had plenty good connection, so I didn't see much of a problem. But you're implying that the game is bad because your connection is bad, which is fuckin retarded.

>>684800620
Reaper can easily get rid of reinhart if he knows what he is doing. Just teleport behind them and shoot them when shield isn't facing him. Bastian is also a good counter, because he can destroy a sheild fairly quickly, and his range is better than melee range.

>>684800633
Characters have health balanced towards how powerful they are, aside from tanks. This makes Tracer, with high dps and time warp, an easy target to kill. The tanks can all be taken out with any few high-dps people. I don't see a case where it isn't balanced. Feel free to put one forward and I will show you why it isn't.

>>684791131
Its not a MOBA. Straight up FPS.

>>684789870
No its shit 10max

>>684800840
>Stop trying to play it like tf2
You are supposed to switch classes in TF2 too, unless you are the biggest scrub in scrubland.

>>684800905
This ad hominem sure is tasty.
Hmu when you have a real argument other than 'you don't want to waste money? Lol u must be poor'.

>>684795948
>>684795055
no teamwork is a beta thing. when game will get its own real community, this will stop.

>>684801023
Yeah thats discussion

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>>684800606
i mean my parents would buy the shit out of anything for me, theyre really cool with stuff like that always have been kek. im just not a big fan of getting ripped off to prove how rich* i am.


>stupid*

>>684801115
the more you talk the more I feel like you don't belong here

>>684801026
so the server side aspect of a game is somehow not related to the game anymore?

this is a first.

When BF had problems with their servers it was always a BF problem to every single player, but here with overwatch the server side of the game is somehow not the game anymore?

fuck you and your fanboi reality twisting and nitpicking

>>684791010
I'm sorry but did this nigger just call low key call unreal tournament shit

>>684800687
Facts! I was racking up kills with Winston then someone used their head and switched to rein and I got Molly wopped a couple times. Had to think and then switched to widow, threw my poison grenade behind him, he turned around like a dumb dumb and got the back of his head imploded. You need to employ strategy and team work to be good, no one will be a "one man army" and that's why I like the game.

>>684801104
but i like pyro and soldier 76 :(

>>684801295
I had no issue with connections either, so pretty sure it is actually your connection

>>684789870
I'm paying $130

>>684801256
That's a funny way of saying that you have no counter-argument
>get out of my slash bee
Fucking cringe

>>684801306
No. He said paragon sucks and it's unfortunate because it was made by the makers of Unreal.
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