>>684688677
No one said you couldn't?
Name one reason, other than for protection, you need an automatic ASSAULT rifle
>assault rifle
>not protection rifle

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Why should you?

>>684689158
I WANT a fully automatic rifle

>>684689158
in case a nigger comes at you really, really fast

>>684688677
If you collect guns, cool.
That's pretty much your only argument for owning an automatic rifle.
Jim Jefferies did a stand up on gun control. Look it up, it's pretty good

>>684689158
in the case of a foreign invasion / civilian uprising

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>>684689158
>THE BILL OF NEEDS
> THE SECOND NEED AMENDMENT

>>684689326
Most niggers are only fast when cops are around.

They exist, they will always exist, and so I want one. That's not true with everything that could or does exist now, but if I want one, I should be allowed to have one as long as I pass my background check and don't have any crimes from the past [which I don't, gov't fag here]

>>684688677
cause then the government would lose a minuscule amount of control over you. and they can't have that.

>>684689158
For exterminating the prairie dog burrows that invade my land every few years. Since they're vermin we kill them with poison but it'll be so much better to just blast them rapidly.

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>>684689767
nice try skeleton.

>>684689484
I saw that and I have to say, he is absolutely right. And he is absolutely hilarious

>>684688677
you dont need a machine gun.

To defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. That is there main purpose. Other than that, fun is the only reason.

>>684689484
That guy is from my country and he does not know what he is talking about, enjoyed the rest of his freeDUMB show though.

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>>684688677
Because you called me a faggot and that hurts my feelings.

>>684689969
You don't need 30 rounds

>>684689969
yes I do

>>684688677
What fucking use do you have for a fully automatic assault rifle.
>ITT next school shooter

>>684689800
>they exist, and so I want one
According to these logics, I can safely imply that you also want cancer, aids, And Ebola, since those also exist

>>684690147
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

you become a better shooter with semiauto

>>684690155
>That's not true with everything that could or does exist now,

Since when did illiterate gorillas gain access to the Internet?

>>684688677
Because you're a basement-dwelling NEET and your view on the world is so warped and far from any reality that you're a danger to yourself and those around you.

>>684690017
What's the military for?

>>684690542
Since the internet

>>684690346
Yea i should also be allowed to strap a .50 cal machine gun to the back of my truck and drive around the city

>>684689767
fuck off spooky

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>>684690563
>>684690575
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>684688677
Because you have a mental age of 12 and cannot be trusted with anything more dangerous than a plastic spoon.

>>684690765
Yes you should

>>684690783
I'm a sp00ky scary skelet0n, fear me

>>684690346
>well-regulated militia

>>684688677
Cause at some point you all have to grow the fuck up and start playing nice, so we may eventually force our will on another planet and the species that inhabit said planet.

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>>684688677

Ever see any Haji firefight vids? Those fuckers literally shoot over there heads, around corners and anywhere else they can... Sometimes using one hand and never so much as even trying to put together a sight picture from a proper firing position.

Every single one of them is usually armed with a 7.62mm automatic rifle.

Giving you a rifle like that would accomplish nothing. Get gud at out to about 400 yards with a bolt action first, then try and master something more difficult.

>>684689564
which will never happen

>>684688677

You should. In fact, I do. Freakishly expensive due to the Hughes Amendment, which was an illegal addition to the law added *after* reconciliation. But it is cool.
HUGE waste of ammo, though. But fun af to fire.

>>684690993
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>>684690575
Thats a large part of the reason for "domestic". Foreign for if another country invades, domestic for criminals and for if the government becomes to corrupt.

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>>684690993
Yes because i want an army of untrained plebs carrying around full automatic assault rifles

>>684690993

You don't history, do you?

The 2nd was for us - the civilians - not for the states.

You're welcome.

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>ITT DONT TAKE MUH GUNS AWAY OBAMER

And for everybody who thinks citizens owning automatic firearms is a terrible idea, look up bump fire stocks. Dump your reactions here afterwards for our lulz

>>684691315
>well-regulated militia

>>684691429

That's not what it says.

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>>684691315
I like how the concept of inalienable Rights mean nothing. Literally out of the first 10 the people who wrote the constitution could think of, the right to bear arms and maintain a well regulated militia was the literal second that they came up with. the people need the ability to overthrow the government if it stops representing the people at large. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is that it allows the people to fight back against the government if the need arises. What is another right idk, like the 1st one was deemed as "inappropriate" as people might be hurt by what you say, would they be "inalienable" then? they are rights that cannot and will not be infringed as ling as self-respecting Americans keep all their rights sacred

>>684692194

Yes it does. This has been argued, your side has lost. Your side's argument wasn't even considered until the middle of last century, because it was so clear and self evident.

What's amazing is, the authors of the 2nd didn't write it, say 'That's it, the day is done, back to the farm.' Nope. They wrote extensively about why they wrote the Constitution and what they meant, and every one, every single one, wrote that the 2nd was for the PEOPLE, that is, you and I (not the state), to have arms. "That Every Man Be Armed" was written specifically about this.

I've got a standing bet with retards: If a tard can give me just ONE example of the founders saying that the 2nd was for the states to have a national guard (or whatever) as opposed to it being an individual right, I'll give you 100 bucks.

>>684692194
"The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed." The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree

from the supreme court to the internet to your eyes

>>684688677
As long as you are not a criminal or a retard who gives a shit?

>>684688677
why shouldn't i be allowed to have nuclear weapons OP ?

>>684692920
What they wrote about on their own time is cute and all, but what they codified in the law it's pretty clear; Article One, Section Eight, Line Sixteen of the Constitution states that Congress 'provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.'

So...yeah, that's actually in the Constitution, not some letter or essay that one of them wrote later on his own.

>>684693176
What ruling is that, exactly?

>>684694605

Which has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. First, if that section says what you claim (and it doesn't) it is superseded by the 2nd Amendment.
Second, the Second Amendment is absolutely, positively, without any actual argument, about individual rights, not state rights.

Game, set, match, Sparky.

>>684695030
Go read it.

Seriously.

>>684695276

Read it. Law degree.
I can't really say it more clearly than I already did; you are wrong, the 2nd is about individual rights to arms. The militia clause is fucking you up, isn't it?

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>>684694819
It took me a two minute google search

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

>>684695276
Please see
>>684695618

Your opinion is legally invalid

>>684694819
Nunn v. Georgia

Because of sperglords like you, others feel uncomfortable around you because of your selfish need to flaunt your giant deathcock in public.

In the US, just go to a Class 3 machine gun dealer, pay the one time $200 tax stamp, wait 3 to 6 months for the ATF background search, then go get your weapon. The hardest part is finding a range that allows full auto shooting.

>>684695880
Does my gun scare you sissy boy? Would you feel more comfortable and safe in the Stalinist USSR?

>>684695476
That's weird, because it says exactly what I said, since I copy-pasted directly from it.

>>684689158
The point of the Second Amendment is national defense, from threats foreign and domestic. That would be hard to do unarmed/ armed with handguns.

Not gun control fgt but isnt an assault weapon meant for assault and not defence, its a bit overkill

>>684696163
>Does my gun scare you sissy boy?
No
But you wish it would so you could all someone else a sissy when you are the sissy who needs an item to feel like a man.
One that even a fucking 12 year old could use.

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>>684696770
aww is the little communist going to cry

>>684689320
I WANT some weed, but it's illegal in my state.

Boo hoo.

Be a fuckin' adult, you don't always get what you WANT.

>>684696372

The 2nd amendment says the people - that is, individuals, not the state - have the right to keep and bear arms.
Period, end of story, history confirms my version not yours, blah blah blah. You are wrong, I am right.

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>>684696770
pic related, its you

>>684697055
Vague, undefined, and outdated.

Sorry, boyo.

>>684696909
No but you would if you didn't have your (lol as if it such an achievement to get one) gun.

Cry like a bitch.
Getting bitch slapped by HS kids.
No gun, No muscle.

>>684696982
So just bend over and accept what you are told you can have?

Or, you know, democratically exercise your right to organize a political movement to obtain what you and many others deem outside of the State's right to tell you that you cannot have?

>>684697055
You're not so great with the reading comprehension, are you?

Believe what you want. Gun control is here, it's not going away, and that's a good thing.

>>684697200

Outdated? LOL
You're one of those 'living document' morons.

Got it.

As to vague and undefined, nope. It is crystal fucking clear, and as I said before, the authors wrote extensively about what they wrote, what it means, and why they did it. That trumps all your left wing faggotry.

>>684697200

And who gets to decide what the new definition is?
Oh wait, of course that would be You.

>>684697200
Not vague, pretty straight forward and it is not outdated, if anything more relevant it is today as the day it was allowed.

>>684688677
There's no reason a law-abiding citizen who purchases one through the appropriate legal channels shouldn't be allowed to have one.

The vast majority of people who currently own these weapons have never/will never use them to commit a crime, but because of those who have used the guns to commit crimes, inanimate objects are crucified.

The people who use the weapons to commit the crimes should be punished to the fullest extent. Unfortunately, those who support gun control also support lax treatment of criminals.

In fact, many who support the stiffest forms of gun control actually plead for the release of violent criminals. It's comical to believe that the outlaws will change their behavior due to a change in the law.

>>684697358

It is a dying concept in the US. And what's even cooler, those against it are the ones with the guns. So, try your shit, we'll just fucking kill you in the streets.

>>684697448
>Trumps
kek

>>684696529
Assault rifle is just a name to describe the mechanical qualitys of a gun, the same way a mini gun is not actually a miniature gun. The reality is you could "assault" or defend yourself with just about any type of gun.The reason for wanting an automatic weapon would be that the opposition would most likely have automatic weapons and worse.

>>684697301

The world isn't this Cowboys and Indians playscape that you imagine it to be.
I know that whatever anime character you're trying to emulate would want to Rise Above their Rival through the power of friendship or hard work or what the fuck ever, but that shit doesn't fly in real life.

>>684697585
A fine example of why it's necessary, and why it's here to stay.

>>684697515
Nope, not me - definitely not you either.

You imbeciles are roiling like a gaggle of grumpy monkeys over this shit - it's pretty hilarious to watch you chimp out over it.

It would be democratically selected, like everything in our country ought to be.

The constitution of the United States of America was a document meant to be amended, and to grow, or shrink with the times.

Sorry, boyo.

>>684697306

And then what do you do when the people democratically continue to say that they don't want that shit in their communities?

>>684697885
A democracy that turns into mob rule and votes enslave me is no democracy

>>684688677
Because you are a stupid faggot.

>>684689158
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a state...

>>684688677
Because you should be powerless and rely on your parental guardian, the government, to protect you.

>>684697885

First, it hasn't been amended to get rid of the 2nd.

Second (lol), self defense with weapons is a birthright, god given right, what have you; it is a right that is not dependent upon democratic ideals.

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>>684689767
You're just pretending to be a basement-dweller, skeleton

>>684691239
couldn't have said it better

>>684698183
Or spank you when you step out of line

>>684697906

The same thing you do with people democratically continue to say they don't want freedom of speech in their communities.
Ignore them. It is a guaranteed right, not subject to the whims of the masses.

>>684688677
you can but it has to be manufactured prior to (i forget the year it's like 197X i think) but be willing to file a novel and pay 35k+ just for a mac 10.

>>684698059
LOL "enslave you"

More chimping. OOh-ooh Aah-aah

It's all fine and well when it's do with something you personally believe in - that mob rule - but when it's something you don't agree with

WATCH OUT

Please note your own hypocrisy.

As a side note - I'm not for gun control at all. I'm for gun and gun safety education, because of the accidental shooting of my little brother on July 20th of last year. But that's about the extent of it.

>>684689158
Fuck Off. The 2nd Amendment was written, following a war to overthrow an oppressive, militaristic, almost dictatorial regime. And it was penned to insure that the american PEOPLE, had the means to fight off the yoke of tyranny, should it become an issue. It says it right in The Declaration of Independence (The very document our nation was FOUNDED ON) that it is not only the people's right, but their DUTY, to take up arms, and tear down any government that tries to deny them their rights and freedoms. The ONLY reason the government wants to ban guns, is so they are the only ones who HAVE guns. The second you take away a people's means to defend their LIBERTIES, not their homes, not their property, but the very rights that define them as a nation, you are officially living in a police state. I do not say there should not be laws on how we can buy, or sell these guns. But if the government has assault weapons, you can bet your ASS I want one too. Because the only thing stopping them from coming at me with full force, is the knowledge that I am legally allowed to defend myself with the exact same type of force they will use.

>>684698186
Guns are used for defense in around 2% of all crime in America.

Two. Percent.

This "Good Guy With a Gun" is a bullshit concept.

>>684698532
None of this is true.

>>684688677
you should!
if your not a known criminal or unqualified to use it properly!

>>684689158
Just because it's called/designed for assault, doesn't mean it's the only use for it...

>>684688677
because i can't afford one working minimum wage

>>684688677
It's not about you being allowed to use a semi automatic rifle, it's niggers being allowed to use a semi automatic rifle.

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As a Canadian I just don't understand why Americans feel as though they're justified in valuing guns over innocent lives because of something that was written in the context of the late 1700s. If you feel I'm wrong provide me with something other than "muh guns", 'cause I suppose I'm slightly curious.

>>684689158

Name one reason you need to drive around an ASSAULT CAR (not a transport car, if it goes over 50mph in 10 seconds or less it's an ASSAULT CAR)

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You'll shoot your eye out kid!

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>>684699108
WEEEEEEEEEEED LMAO

>>684699108
That's the thing. They can't give you any reason other than "muh guns" and "muh freedoms"

They don't want mob rule, but they want to rule at the end of a steel barrel.

>>684699108

Live around niggers, you'll get the idea maplebro.

>>684688677
For the same reason they don't give you a gun in the Marines on day one. These are military grade weapons, and the military doesn't give them to just any asshole off the street. You have to be screened, then trained to use them.

>>684698630
>Guns are used for defense in around 2% of all crime in America.
If used in "defense", it's crime how?

>>684698630
The Second Amendment is for national, not personal, defense. Personal defense is just an addition. Plus areas with more guns have less crime because knowing anyone could have a gun is pretty fucking scary if you ask me.

>>684697574
hes right, i am a collector, i own 7 nfa items, 3 of wich ar full auto

All you you niggers are arguing about wether we should have automatic rifles when we already have the greatest right freedom of speech

>>684699297
I do. Except we have knives, not guns.

>>684698630

Ahh, ok, so you're one of those.

First, your excrement is bullshit, please give source.
Second, regardless of your source, still bullshit, because it is meaningless. Less than 2% of all fires in the US are extinguished by firefighters, does that mean shit? Of course not. You don't even use 'violent crime' as the metric.
Third, the good guy with a gun is bullshit? Numerous studies - some done by leftists trying to disprove them, like the Clinton Justice Dept. - show that guns are used around 2 million times per year to stop a criminal act.

Now, I don't know what percentage that is of all US Crime, but it is a significant number.

I've used a gun to stop a crime. I never called the cops. I know others who have had the same situation.
You are a moron. Go back to re ddit.

>>684699405

Not enough apparently.

AU has proven a gun ban does nothing for murder rates.

You literally have no argument.

>>684695618
>uses wikipedia to try to validate an argument
>article is a supreme court ruling and has absolutely nothing to do with what is actually written in the constitution
>supreme court is judged by the media on any ruling they make and the general public listens to the media over actual facts
>the media essential wrote the article
>the media controls the government

>>684699358
The right to bear arms secures the right to freedom of speech

>>684697306
Yeah you seem like a cuck and a push over. Sorry ya boy Bernie aint shit and wont win anything. But yeah keep living your life the way you are. Rules are rules and aren't ment to be questioned or broken... fucking faggot.

>>684689158
assault weapons are better for protection . there is no "protection rifle" quit making shit up.

>>684689158
>name one other reason other than protection
This shit triggers me every time and I don't even own a gun. It's like saying 'name one reason other than driving to own a car'

>>684699349
Oh, what the fuck are a bunch of mooks going to do against our very trained and well equipped military, should the military side with the government and not the people?

Do you think you really scare them?

>>684699108

The 2nd amendment was written to guarantee Americans have the right to defend themselves, their communities, and their country against assholes who want to do harm.
Please tell me, what about human nature has changed? We still have assholes, don't we? People who want to hurt others?

>>684698630

>Defense
>Crime

Isn't there a safe space you have somewhere in which everyone agrees with you?

>>684698630
Yet gun assualts, robberys, and murders per capita have all went down in the last 10 or so years while gun ownership has went up per capita. I like how you used crimes over all. Im geussing you thought crimes like drug use would go down with more guns?

>>684699108
Because guns basically ARE American history.
When America was fighting for its independence, the gun represented security; if there's a gun in the house, there's a man who's willing to use it in the house. And when we were expanding into the west, Americans had to deal with dangerous animals, bandits, etc. If you had a gun, the odds were shifted somewhat in your favor. Basically, the gun was the peacemaker in US history, and we shouldn't have to sacrifice such an instrumental piece of our history for "muh refugees that TOTALLY aren't raping and murdering people in my native country"

>>684688677
Have you seen syria lately?

>>684689158
>ASSAULT rifle

Define 'assault rifle'.

>>684699108
The founding fathers knew that the world would change and gun innovations would be made. They were well aware of many different guns that could shoot sixty rounds a minute (Steven Crowder talks about this on Youtube, I would check it out) and the point of guns is national defense. Also most guns used in crime are illegally gotten, so laws would not help. Plus areas with more guns have less crime, and areas with less guns have more crimes. That is in the U.S and internationally.

>>684699334
In self-defense? From crime?

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/

http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable15.pdf
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/19/guns-in-america-for-every-criminal-killed-in-self-defense-34-innocent-people-die/

>>684699349

The authors of the 2nd Amendment would have to disagree with you. And did. Many writings in which they did.
Individual right, not collective.

>>684699358
Freedom of speech won't save you from a home invasion though.

>>684699558
no such thing as an assault rifle either

>>684699334
well, when you go to rob your local dopeboy and he starts shooting at you and you retaliate, you defended your life, but you also participated in something that put you in that position in the first place.

>>684699320
>military grade weapons

100% trolling.

>>684689158

Are you telling me that an people should use
.50 AM rounds in a bolt action because an
automatic one would kill to many intruders ?

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>>684699790
ahhh yes a positive correlation
Meanwhile it doesn't mean the 2 things have anything to do with one another
Bravo geniustard.
Bravo.

>>684699108
>>684699297
What he said. Also if you're near NH maplebro head to Belmont gun range and ask about their minigun and if you can fire it. it's a bit of paperwork but it's the best $500usd for 30 seconds you'll ever spend.

>>684696982
Your point? Weed is illegal but a full auto assault rife isnt so there is your reason

>>684699409
Excrement is generally shit, yes.

I provided sources in another post.

I believe the "2%" actually came from the FBI, you're on the internet, fucking Google it.

I posted studies showing that YOUR excrement is in fact, bullshit.

"2,000,000" times a year. LOL

Are you carrying around a fucking AK-47 when you're stopping this crime, you stupid faggot?

>>684688677
But you would be able to protect yourself from the government, who would want that?

>>684699568
i have a classic car in my garage . i don't drive it . i still enjoy it

>>684699706
Nope, bud, that's what you've got in here for the most part.

This is YOUR hugbox, not mine.

>>684688677

You can get one if you fill out the right paper work you fucking retard

>>684699651
The Americans fought off the Brits in the Rev. War and were nothing but farmers. Plus the U.S military would have a hard time taking on the various militias that would spring up and NOT be armed with hunting rifles, but weapons that could be effective. You don't have to scare them, just drive them off.

>>684689158
why do you need another reason.

is the first reason not good enough?

>>684698532
an assault rifle wont help you against an airstrike

>>684699651
This argument is retarded and so are you

>>684700445
but why do you own your daily driver.
nice try faggot.

>>684699925

Ah, the old '34 times more likely to die' argument.

This article/study has been used as a 'how not to do a study' example.

First, it presumes that only a dead criminal = defense use of a gun.
Second, it cooks the stats so significantly that the results are worthless - they cooked the stats to equal the results, not the other way around. For example, they didn't count anyone killed who was an acquaintance of the crime victim. Really? So now a woman shooting her abusive ex-boyfriend or a stalker doesn't count?
Rubbish 'study.'

>>684700445
You get where I'm coming from though. This 'name one reason apart from the main reason' shit is absolutely retarded.

>>684699932
I said that personal was a plus. The point is national (as in defending liberty) defense. The whole "well regulated militia" thing. You still have personal shit but it is mostly national shit.

>>684699651
well amerifats did lose to a bunch of farmers with pitchforks in vietnam so...... argument invalid

>>684700445
The equivalent of a weeab with a katana for decoration.

>>684700320

I was carrying a handgun that, under the law, is an assault weapon, ie, holds > 10 rounds.

The studies I wrote of are solid, much like your head.

>>684699790
You DO realize that gun ownership has actually gone DOWN, right?

The amount of guns singular people own, however, has gone up.

>>684700730
maybe i take a bus
>>684701002
Wat? Yuo have to chop someone in two , if you own one?

>>684699867
Assault rifle = fully automatic
Sport rifle = non-full auto (can be bolt or semi)

>>684700851

(sigh) No, it is not. Personal. That's it. It is absolutely, 100% an individual right. This makes it very useful for community and national defense, obviously, but it is an individual right.

>>684699409
Here's some more facts from you.

Have a good read.

http://www.armedwithreason.com/less-guns-less-crime-debunking-the-self-defense-myth/

http://www.armedwithreason.com/shooting-down-the-gun-lobbys-favorite-academic-a-lott-of-lies/

http://www.armedwithreason.com/debunking-the-defensive-gun-use-myth/

>>684699673
we have nukes and assault rifles wont help you on a national scale

>>684701245
no such thing as an' assault rifle'

>>684701026
After reading further on your "studies" they are not solid, you just hold an extreme bias against them.

I am not for, or against gun control. I'm not for, or against guns, the bias on my end here is much less apparent than yours.

I fucking love shooting, but all things need to be done in moderation, sorry, bub.

Go read through the links I posted, then feel like an idiot later.

Thanks.

Also, we all know what the fuck people are talking about when they say "assault weapon", don't be that fucking doublespeak, Fox News type idiot. Just don't be.

>>684701124

This argument.

No. Gun ownership has not gone down. This was from a single study which claimed that due to lower numbers of gun registrations to different individuals, that the increased number of guns out there are going to multiple gun owners.

Nope. Most states do not require registration. Just the commie cocksucking ones. So the entire basis of this study is moot.

>>684699651
The U.S. Military makes up about %1 of the us population. %1 well trained and armed > %99 no training, no arms. %1 well trained and armed < %99 armed with little or no training.

>>684701285
>a country will nuke itself

>>684701534
Please provide sources like I have, otherwise, you're just talking out of your chimpy asshole.

>>684688677
don't bees kill more than semi automatic 'salt rifles in the USA? There is no reason why someone shouldn't be allowed to buy them, it's not going to make any difference for the guy trying to shoot up the kindergarden. He will just burn though a clip real quick with poor accuracy and have to reload. The reason schools get shot up is because Shill Clinton passed a law saying no one can have a gun on campus so we can't have one or two armed police officers ready to dome shot the crazed young man that is withdrawing from his prozac with an ak

>>684701278

If you think posting shit from anti-gun websites is fact, you are just trippin'.

As I said, it has always been an individual right, and remains so today. Nothing you can to to change that fact, except whine like a little bitch.
Also you can't change the fact that the CLinton Justice Dept. commissioned a study to try to disprove two done by Gary Kleck which showed that guns in general are used > 2mil times per year by civilians to stop a criminal act; handguns alone make up over 1.2 million of that number. When the Clinton DOJ did the study to disprove this, they found the exact same numbers.
How embarrassing for your side!

>>684688677

Because you'll shoot someone with it or leave it laying around where your kids will pick it up and then shoot someone with it.

If gun owners want the issue to go away then they should stop shooting people dead all the time.

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>>684701640
allready happened

and even a tank is far more than enough to deal with assault rifle wielding murricans

>>684701589
implying they will do what to their own people?
And do what without them?
What? Run out of supplies?
One feeds the other.

>>684701490

WTF are you talking about? This is the very definition, the thing that gets loser douchebags so uptight is magazine capacity.

My studies are extremely solid, you are just fucking retarded.

>>684699507
Nigger the media fucking hates guns and gun culture

>The Supreme Court doesn't matter at all, guys
>only when I don't agree with the ruling

This is a desperate man

>>684702086
>nuclear test
>ZOMG AMERICA NUKED ITSELF

Jesus Christ, man, seriously?

>>684701673

Your 'source' was the discredited study making the claim; kind of a circular argument, isn't it, boyfucker?

>>684702086
Yea, im sure they will just kill of the majority of there population so another country can step in and take over.

>>684702286
>what is Iraq and Afghanistan

>>684701264
I know this. The point of owning bigger guns is national. Other than that you just need a handgun.

>>684702332
it nuked itself didnt it?
>>684702493
there are small and big nukes, airstrikes and tanks, battleships, artillery...

an assault rifle wont get you the massive advantage you need to overthrow the government

>>684701673

Now now, just because you are losing the argument to your intellectual betters is no reason to be a little bitch. Plus, you didn't include a source related to this bullshit claim.

>>684702014
>if you think anything leftists say if fact
ftfy

>>684702540
What are the loses suffer on one side vs the other.

Also what are harden fighters vs faggot guntard americunts?

>>684702592

A handgun is useful to get to your long gun.

The 2nd is about owning and bearing arms. It's great that this includes handguns, but it meant long guns. In fact, at that time, personal ownership of cannons was very common.

>>684702870

yeah no shit man.

>>684688677
If it makes up for your tiny dick go right ahead

>>684688677
I really have no opinion on this issue but my question is: Why would you need a fully automatic rifle. Those things cost thousands of dollars and in the end, having been in the military and fired a full automatic, the function is entirely useless on a rifle.

But even the military never goes full auto.

You really don't need one unless you live in an all black neighborhood or something where the black people would storm you like a zombie horde.

You can easily fight against a tyrannical government with a semiautomatic weapon.

All you need to do is hide in the bushes with a scope and pick them off one at a time.


>>684702286
WRONG. There are only so man tanks and tanks can't pick people off one by one.
Its also very easy to blow up a tank with explosives. Their movement is way too slow to catch someone behind them with an rpg. Its not like a video game where tanks can't be damaged by infantry.

>>684703100
>personal ownership of cannons was very common
no it wasnt
cannons where expensive as fuck and nearly no civilian had the money to waste it on something they most likley would never need

I honestly think the only people who support gun control are as follows
1. too poor to own fire arms
2. to afraid of firearms
3. friend or family died from firearm

you certainly cannot defend banning guns with facts. You can look at all the deaths from firearms(subtracting 2/3 of that number because of suicides that happen anyway (example Australia suicide didn't drop after gun ban)) and compare that number to genocides that have taken place on disarmed civilians.

>>684703281
better they buy a gun than an suv

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>>684703562
this guy is retarded but cannons were field artillery and completely useless for self defense, still shouldn't be banned though.

>>684703281

My wife shoots a machine gun. Guess she's compensating for something.

Seriously, what is wrong with you Freudian d-bags and your penis-gun confusion?

And to be honest, I have quite the cock. But it can't fire a 230grain bullet at 840fps at multiple assailants, so I suppose my dick is useless in a self defense situation, whereas my .45 does make up for my dick in that it *is* useful in a self defense situation.
What a retarded argument.

>>684703100
Yes, I know this! James Madison allowed private ownership of fucking artillery for the War of 1812. The only argument I am making is that the most important part (I think) is the national defense. It protects everyones liberty, from threats foreign and domestic.

>>684703281
>trying an immaculate a man as a form of an arrangement.
Alex, what is ad hominem for 500?

If you think you'll survive in an uprising because you have a gun you really must be the dumb cousin-fucker everybody knows you are

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>>684700722
funny, AKs seem to be doing quite well against american airstrikes in iraq, afghanista, syria and every other war we have lost recentlyl

>>684703562

LOLOL Ok, I guess the history books are just wrong.
Like the ones where during the US Revolution, personally owned cannons were used in the field, and placed on ships.

But you're right, they were expensive, so no one could possibly have owned them /sarc

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>>684702286
>2016
>thinking tanks are safe

>>684703562
He meant for privateers during the War of 1812.

>>684703075

The purpose of an armed citizenry is to defend against foreign aggressors and resist, if not overthrow, tyrannical domestic governments.

You don't have to necessarily WIN.

You have to RESIST.

I wish we had that liberty in England.

PS, A lot of those Americunt guntards you deride are also ex military

>>684704073
Are strikes are shit, ak strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9HzqxwKfiM

>>684704052

if you think you'll survive an uprising without a means of defense, you're my cousin you just mentioned.

>>684703488
You talk like life is a video game.

Go outside of your basement you fucking autist.

Honestly, I want a fully automatic firearm. I want to own one for a very simple reason.

I'll put it in a safe, then forget about it.

Because it's like owning the bar tool with coils all around the edge that's supposed to be a strainer but does a shitty job of straining anything, but is such a pain in the ass to clean and maintain that nobody actually uses it.

But you break it out once in a while to show that you're cool. Or something.

>>684704405
Everything I said is true.

>>684704497
I wish I had one just for the investment. People who owned an automatic before 1985 can sell it now and buy a corvette.

>>684704608
You really don't need one unless you live in an all black neighborhood or something where the black people would storm you like a zombie horde.
This isn't GTA.

All you need to do is hide in the bushes with a scope and pick them off one at a time.

This is not a video game where you can hide in a bush for days and never get caught

>strong pro gun comment
>0 replies
>dipshit makes a malformed argument for pro gun
>4 replies
you leftists sure love to pick low hanging fruit.

I wouldn't trust anyone who visits this site with a full auto

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WHY SETTLE FOR A FULLY AUTOMATIC RIFLE WHEN TANKS AND ATTACK HELICOPTERS ARE LEGAL?

>>684705264
Okay let me buy that 50 millions tank real quick

kek

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>>684704984
>he thinks blacks don't attack in hordes
>he hasn't seen any footage from Afghanistan

>>684688677
>Because you can't handle a peashooter