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ITT: We discuss whether or not the decision to drop the atomic bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima were morally just
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>>684478657
*was
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>>684478657
they were fuck gooks
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>>684478657
Yes
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>>684478657
Yes. If dubs, no.
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>>684478657
jap stole my gf, i am happy they did it. but feel bad aboud the children
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>>684478718
nah the war was just getting fun we should of continued with the deadliest land invasion in human history
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>>684478657
Yes, god damned jap's deserved it.
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Saved American lives, made some Rice Krispies.

11/10 would nuke again
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>>684478941
/thread

Kekd a little
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Nope. Since the people targeted werent soldiers but civilians its not right.
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yes
Pic related from my recent trip to Hiroshima.

Felt great to gawk and take pictures and be an obnoxious tourist there... Little payback for all the nips that like going to Hawaii and take pictures at pearl harbor
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>>684478657
not answering your question but ask this:

Did it prevent more severe "first bomb"? Probably

well morally just probably not but everyone is biased so whats the point of even discussing that? Murrica savior and world police all the way
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>>684478657
Yes, because all races that are not the Master Race must be exterminated.


LONG LIVE THE CANADIAN RACE!!!!
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>>684479048
FOUND THE JAP
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>>684478657
what's there to discuss? Germany was defeated, Japan was militarily crushed. The atomic bombs was just adding injury to injury
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>>684478941
>rice Krispies

Kek'd hard
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>>684478657
They should have dropped it on the Europeans... but, it's not too late to do the right thing.
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>>684479048
this
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>>684478657
Morality is an arbitrary concept, prove me wrong.

>protip: you can't
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>>684479097
>guys look at my picshures i am so cool

nobody cares faggot
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Yes and we should have dropped one on Moscow and avoided the entire cold war
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>>684478657
i just want to know why we haven't dropped a tactical nuke on north korea yet? if we wait for a state meeting / assembly of the military where he is always watching we could get rid of the muppet with ease.
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Nuke Mecha , just puttin it out there it'd solve a lot of problems.
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>join the axis
>attack US naval base
>attack US ships

Some people like to think we just bombed hiroshima and nagasaki for no reason.
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>>684478657
There is no morally just war.
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Pic from the museum at Hiroshima
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>>684479377
I agree but sometimes a "healthy human mind" can spot the line, for example bombing mostly civilians who simply want to survive.
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>>684478657
It's morally just now because Obama apologized for it
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Mongoloids deserved the hellfire they got. The atrocities they commited to the Chinese and Koreans along with their BULLSHIT attack on Pearl Harbor completely justifies leveling a few cities.
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>>684479463
jealous poor faggot identified that will never leave his moms basement
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>>684479608
so low?? really?
thats not what i expected.
But i know they did calculate where exactly
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There was a period of 4 years between 1945 and 1949 where the USA was the only country with the bomb

We should have bombed the fuck out of Russia when we had the chance
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>>684479711
Yeah and it's not like we didn't warn the people of the city that it would be bombed. They thought we were bluffing we weren't.
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>>684478657

Well if we hadn't we would've overrun their mainland and it would've been a lot worse. Although Japan would be a territory of the US now.

>>684479377

What do you mean by arbitrary?
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No, since Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't military strategic places, while Pearl Harbor was one.
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North Korea surely would of won the war if not for the descion to drop those two bombs on its cities.
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https://join.skype.com/wKSPTStwYuJm

join me
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>>684479552
probably not a bad idea to be honest
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>>684478657
immoral but not because you think

should have done more or less but just that amount was wrong
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>>684478845
I'm not saying we should have stopped personally I think that whole island would look better fucking glassed over as a reminder to the other gooks you don't fuck with freedom land.
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>>684479726
you forgot the part about being fat. do you feel smart coming up with that original insult?
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in the grand scheme of things, it bought humanity a lot of years of peace, cost a lot of lives, but was it worth it?
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>>684478657
>the decision
>were morally just
Nice subject-verb agreement, faghammer.
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Japan played a stupid game. In return they won stupid prizes.
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>>684480085
Yo if you wanna change things about yourself, the only person stopping you is you
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Yes. Also keep in mind they scattered flyers telling people to evacuate days before.
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>>684479585
According to whose morality? Yours? Gtfo.
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>>684480187
just like Takeshi's Castle
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>>684479851
The bomb detonated about 1,900' AGL. This bridge was the intended target... wound up being off by about 800' and detonated over a clinic a couple blocks away
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>>684479377
morality is naturally generated based on the passing on of genes to the next generation an the ensured continuation of humanity. Not arbitrary. The colours of a traffic light aren't arbritrary.
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>>684478657

BOMB HIROSHIMOOT
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If they had the atom bomb and we didn't, they'd drop it on us without a second thought. We killed a quarter million of them to save half a million of us and an estimated 9 million of them. Seems like a good deal to me
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>>684478657
Oh look, this thread again.
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>>684478657
It actually saved Japanese lives.
Japs weren't going to surrender.
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>>684479989
This
Either we don't drop the nuke or we just drop so many nukes so we could have destroyed the totality of china
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>>684479048
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were chosen as targets because they had important military significance.

Civilian casualties were just collateral damage.
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>>684480085
not particularly... but you are the faggot whining like a child about a post with a very related picture to the topic of this thread.
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In some ways, I think were more morally just nowadays than in that time.
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>>684480337
inb4 'arbritrary'
I'm a brit okay. also the captcha for this was to find pictures of tea...
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whats more retarded than this is the white on white shitstorm between norman saxon and WHATEVER THE FUCK russia is

questions like

WHAT THE FUCK

and

WHAT THE FUCK

and why russia didn't march south and east yet nukes weren't dropped on them

or germany for that matter

who believes this shit seriously
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>>684479160
canada is full of french untermensch
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>>684480337
This has to be bait. Surely no one is this retarded.
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>>684479711
defeated by a pack of sand people that use to fuck their goats

just watch EU murrifags, how we ll solve the problem
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>>684480479
>being this uninformed
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>>684480217
Fucking schizofrenic samefag..
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>>684480337
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>>684480469
at least between xian, beijing and shanghai. haanan for good measure
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>>684480469
>china
topkek
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>>684480408
>estimations made by people who wanted to drop the bomb anyway

Why didn't they nuke military equipment/bases/convoys/ships/whatever else they had left that was so dangerous?

It was merely a demonstration of power that could have been done in a more humane way.
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>>684478657
It was necessary was it morally right no no it was not but it did what it was made to do and that was to stop a war.
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>>684480513
norman, saxon, slavshit*
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>>684480337
Yeah but he's saying that someone's personal morals could be different from yours. Morality isn't arbitrary but people's sense of it is
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>>684480172
See
>>684478686
Faggot
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>>684479950
yeah fuck the chinese
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>>684479527
Because everyone knows north Korea is a joke that will never pose an actual threat to anyone
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>>684478657
I can understand 1 atomic bomb but not 2. "That made a big boom, probably killing a ton of people. Oh we got a spare one? Yeah just drop it on them as well."
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>>684478657
Dude the fac we even made global annihilation to figt each other on the same plnet was fucking retarded. We wer in the wrong from the start. Magnets are the answer
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>>684480493
newfag. leave.
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>>684478657
yes, but only because they warned the citizens beforehand
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>>684480628
Seriously, this >>684480479
Was the most cringe thing I've ever read
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>>684480839
but think of all the people who are enslaved under that fucks rule. wipe him out and get them working down the factories making a shit ton of cars so everything is affordable again.
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>>684480894
ok
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>>684478657
Maybe did the world a favour seeing what a couple of small nukes can do to cities.
As for killing civilians, the fire bombing of Tokyo killed a shit load as well as European cities being flattened for years prior to that.
Morally right? Who knows but you have to survive before you have the luxury of pondering morals.
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>>684478657

morally just? probably not? probably not even strategically just, not in the long term. but tactically just as hell.
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>>684480644
No I'm not the guy you were tussling with I just noticed you seem on edge and it's most likely due to your own insecurities. We can't help you fix yourself man so wake up.
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>>684480902
This is a good point
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>>684480741
We gave them gooks like five days warning by dropping millions of flyers and broadcasting warnings via radio.

>“Read this carefully as it may save your life or the life of a relative or friend. In the next few days, some or all of the cities named on the reverse side will be destroyed by American bombs. These cities contain military installations and workshops or factories which produce military goods. We are determined to destroy all of the tools of the military clique which they are using to prolong this useless war. But, unfortunately, bombs have no eyes. So, in accordance with America’s humanitarian policies, the American Air Force, which does not wish to injure innocent people, now gives you warning to evacuate the cities named and save your lives. America is not fighting the Japanese people but is fighting the military clique which has enslaved the Japanese people. The peace which America will bring will free the people from the oppression of the military clique and mean the emergence of a new and better Japan. You can restore peace by demanding new and good leaders who will end the war. We cannot promise that only these cities will be among those attacked but some or all of them will be, so heed this warning and evacuate these cities immediately.”
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>>684478657
WWII never ended. Frankly the US may still have to drop yet another bomb.

The fact is that Japan wasn't going to surrender. And that would have cost 100's of thousands more American lives, and Japanese lives.

The bombs saved lives. And dropping 1 more will ensure Japan's submission. Tragic - but necessary.
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>>684480864
The japs were given plenty of warning prior to Hiroshima, and then given a few days before Nagasaki. They knew it was coming
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>>684478657
No excuse to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians. No excuse at all.
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>>684480788
what do you mean by 'sense of it'? surely your personal morality is a result of reasoned thought and personal experience
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>>684480965
>>684480773
>>684480675
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>>684481120
What?
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>>684480337
Someone else could just as easily define the destruction of humanity as moral because humans are killing the Earth.

There is no way of objectively determining whose moral view is the correct one.
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>>684481190
Good thing Japan never killed civilians ever
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Heads of state should have gone together in some remote location and demonstrated the effect of the bomb -> ultimatum: capitulate or receive one on your heads. Murder is never justified.
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>>684481190
No one gives a shit about excuses, it was the fastest, easiest and cheaper way
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>>684481150
The real end to the war though was Russia's threat to enter the Pacific theater. That's what Japan surrendered because of
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>>684480887
Aside from the spelling errors i know im right mother fuckers
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>>684481320
I see what you did there
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>>684480537
what part of that makes no sense to you? I'm saying the foundation of morality is survival. Where do you think it comes from?
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>>684479527
Uh no the USA should not be the one who drops the next bomb we already did that twice and that was far to many it should be europoor that drops the next one.
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>>684481320
I know you're being sarcastic, but it has to be said

>inb4 pearl harbor
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>>684478657
Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings sure showed those Soviet dogs not to fuck with USA. Bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki ended WW II ja stoped WW III from happening at lest for now. Deus volt!
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>>684478657
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>>684481190
surely you can't be that dense.

The bombings were necessary. It was the only way to secure their surrender. Sure there were hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths... would have likely been in the millions If there had been an allied invasion of the mainland.
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>>684481517
Wut???
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Nukes are shit wepons
Everything is answered with basic vector calculation and magnetizem
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>>684481544
See
>>684481396
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>>684478657
>discussing morality towards foreigners, with a moralless board full of racists
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>>684481604
It's a thread trying to crash 4chan by quoting everyone in the thread. I imagine the cancer has spread to other threads now. It's most likely terminal
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>>684481358
>Heads of state should have gone together in some remote location

heads of state should have gone to some remote location and fought each other to the death with swords.

There are no rules in wars , despite the non-sense you get from military lawyers and diplomats the only rule is to win. Then you get to write the history and prosecute the other guys leaders and military for "war crimes" as defined by you.
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>>684481454
>the foundation of morality is survival.
Survival can often require 'immoral' behavior. How do you reconcile this contradiction?
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>>684481279
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>>684481745
>implying 4chan is comprised of immoral users
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>>684481296
And now you're playing dumb, you see this is so funny to me because I know deep down that you know I'm right. I'm not even here to point out what's wrong with you, I only have so much time on my hands but I think if you tried hard enough you can get through whatever you want
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>>684481299
I agree but saying they're arbitrary is ridiculous. Most people's morals have basis in survival and are then built upon via reasoning.
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>>684478657
An invasion would have killed more people and would have crippled the country even more.
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Magnets are good nukes are bad at fighting wars on the same planet. We have always been in the wrong as a planet to even attempt this bullshit. Fucking magnets get used to it you niggers
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>>684479160
There is only one master race, and we worship the mighty GabeN
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>>684478657
Compared to Detroid, it was a humane decision.
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>>684479097
Thank you anon. When I first moved to hawaii I was shocked by how unabashed they enjoy visiting Pearl Harbor. We need more Americans like you
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>>684481544
Well technically it wasn't "necessary" to say, rather the preferred method of ending the conflict
It is never necessary to kill a murderer, its just more convenient than to go through all the legal paperwork of their trails and then their imprisonment and/or execution
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>>684478657
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>>684478657
The actions of America's forebears to use the A-bomb was no more or less morally objectionable then every other countries decision to go to war in the first place.
In the end morality is irrelevant in the context of war, the side that wins gets to decide what is to be considered moral or not. And if that's the case you can easily argue that morality is nothing more then an agreement by choice or force to what actions can be punished or be allowed.
The allies won the war. In the end they get to decide if their actions qualify as moral or not and their obviously going to choose to show themselves in the most positive light. Unless you plan on making all the countries admit by force they we're wrong your concepts of morality is as fake and gay as your sexlife.
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>>684481867
Being this new
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let's talk about UNIT 731 and how they exchanged medical information with the U.S. and got away with horrible warcrimes and the U.S. covered it all. relevant to this thread kinda.
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>>684482061
O shit waddup
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>>684482105
explain...
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>>684481901
This isn't true. Morality has its basis in socially-constructed value systems. As it relates to my own survival, your life or death is meaningless to me and yet I find the idea of murdering you to be immoral. Someone else may not think the same way, even though, again, you're life or death is unrelated to their own.
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>>684481396
WWII never ended. Another bomb dropped may end up saving hundreds of thousands of American and Japanese lives.

Japan never surrendered. Sure, on paper they may have. But they're precocious, independent, curious people - and they will fight to the end. They need another reminder.
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>>684481815
Morals are hierarchical so some are overridden by others when forced to chose
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>>684482222
Quads is always right in its opinion. /thread
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>>684478657
>this
Well put it this way, would you rather have a bloody fistfight with someone you know won't go down easy, or just pull out a shotgun and blast them away?
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>>684481190

America was already killing hundreds of thousands of Japanese in firebomb attacks. The A-bombs were much less cost effective way of killing japs. They mostly wanted to demonstrate the kool new toy they had to other nations before the war ended.
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>>684482306
I would blow them up with a grenade, lol
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>>684482236
I'm pretty sure Japan is fucked way beyond survival... Considering there's even worse things than tentacle porn and anime now, that country has gone to absolute shit.
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>>684482093
You're the one who's misguided
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>>684482306
>would use rocket launcher
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>>684482268
And who decides upon this hierarchy? Is it inherent to existence?
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At the time it was morally just.

Morals changed. Now it would be wrong to do the same thing.
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>>684482165
>they invaded some chinamen place manchuria or something similar
>captured and killed most of them
>tortured and killed many in human experiments
>tested biological weapons on the fields and killed tons of farmers
>got remarkable results and gave it to the U.S. so they wouldn't be prosecuted.
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>>684482531
You mean because everyone's a pussy nowadays right?
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Nukes are imoral no matter what making them dropping them, anything.

Fucking magnets
You shit heads need to just get over it. Nukes are imoral yes dropping them on anyone is imoral not just for them but for the people who dropped them to. These are global annihilation wepons.

Educate your selves.

https://youtu.be/TWeJsaCiGQ0
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>>684482403
>not liking what the Japs have become
Let me guess, you not like futa?
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war is immoral. actions within war are immoral.

you have the conquerors and conquered.

post-ww2 pussified rules of engagement have hindered the ability to win a war. it has all been negotiated terms of saving face.

bring back Eisenhower presidency and watch much of the world's problems vanish in american might.
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>>684482591
the japanese invaded*
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>>684482646
Futanari is the bane of my existence
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I'm so happy we did it. Can you imagine how GOAT America looked after doing that? The ultimate "don't fuck with us" move
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>>684482403
Fukushima will affect us all. Mark my words.

A preliminary strike a decade ago would have ensured Japan's submission.
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>>684482633
Not ever moral. Has nothing to do with pussus either its always been a disservice to everyone. Magnets.... Magnets!
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>>684482637
Yeah they are imoral alright, no honor is involved with the use of nukes, but who cares about honor and morals when you have complete and total annihilation of an enemy?
it gets results, not praise and appreciation
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>>684481802
There are rules in war (now). The UN have made a few which a rather large number of countries have adopted...
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>>684482666
You like da Japs Satan?
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>>684482403
Those things aren't the cause their the symptoms of a dying society. The birthrate, marrige rate, and subsequent decline of society began after the rise of Feminism in Japan during the late 1960's. The demands of women of a man to have more and more resources on order to please them grew so much that it's basically impossible to meet them. It's damn near impossible for a {middle class} Japanese man to own property yet virtually all women demand they have a house on a rather large plot of land before they even consider dating them.
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>>684478941
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>>684478657
yes, we had entered total war with them, a state in which civilian casualties are a given. We did it for many purposes as well:
showcase our power to the other powers (Russia), bring the swiftest end to the war possible, save lives on both sides in the long run, I could go on but the bombs dropped in Japan were instrumental in securing the cold aspect of the Cold War and those lives lost saved millions who would have undoubtedly fought in a protracted war on the main islands.

It was a bad deal but of the cards we were given that was the best option for everyone involved.
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Did Japane commit Hari Kiri with Fukushima? Can they recover? Can the world recover?
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>>684482986
not in the slightest
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Nah, America should have just taken over the country and prevented the waifu abominations.
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>>684482907
And yourself you dumbass.
Too many othese things used on you enemy and it poisins eveything
Peole just want to push a buttone and forget about consequence. However people who are not autistic do whats best
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Let's all just appreciate the Rice Krispies joke above. That was some funny shit. 5/7
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>>684479851
Believe it or not, calculations weren't exactly precise. The triggering mechanism for when the bomb was to detonate was actually a barometric pressure sensor (hence the need to arm it mid-flight, while at altitude) that triggered at a pressure level consistent with an altitude range.
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If only doctor doom was in charge, he would know what to do
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>>684482329
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/b/ never would have existed without Japanese influence.

to all of you: have some fucking respect. give Japan a break ffs.
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>>684483263
was talking about calc after the event from the dmg done reverse
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An invasion of Japan would have killed millions. The bombs saved lives.
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>>684478657

You really want to debate on matters of morality regarding war?

There are two types of land mines used in my country: One shreds you and kills you, the other has a more powerful blast with slightly less shredding and kills you.

Which one is more moral?
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>>684478657
>Nagasaki and Hiroshima were morally just
No way.

They could have been dropped offshore to create a nuclear tidal wave in strategic areas, saving hundreds of thousands of innocent lives.

Or not use them at all. Japan had no chance to begin with. And the attack on Pearl Harbor was no excuse for America to ignore the Rules of War and engage in Total War out of the blue.
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Maybe it was wrong maybe it wasn't, but what is definitely wrong is not finishing the job and allowing Japan to move forward after the war. The fact that we protect them from china after they pillaged their lands is so fucking dumb
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>>684483538
I thought moot was Swedish?
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>>684483705
Like i have been saying anno! But no one will listen because thay are just that fucking afraid of the truth. A lot of things are imoral just even making nukes was imoral. Fucking magnets is the only way to go
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>>684478657
morally just? lmao. it was war. kill or be killed.
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>>684482093
lol nice try gaylord,
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>>684483741
BINGO.

The best thing we can do is to let Japan and China work out past aggressions. Perhaps in a battle field, perhaps on the economic front.

Japan.... has a lot to answer for.
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>>684482942
>There are rules in war (now).

LOL I'm sure nations will carefully follow the (new) rules of war when facing annihilation at the hands of an enemy. Its easier to follow the 'rules' when your the one making them up.
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>>684483169
What is best is the complete and total destruction of everything, fuck consequence, no one ever thinks about consequence when they do what they want, they just do it despite it affecting anyone else, its called history repeating itself over and over and us never learning
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Yes, unless we wanted to continue firebombing, and likely killing millions more. The japanese civilian population was preparing to fight US forces that came ashore, thus acting as combatants anyway.
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>>684483724
>biggest conflict the world has ever seen
>Largest terrorist attack on US soil for time
>morally just
Who the fuck cares if it was morally just, it killed some people to end a war faster and save a great many more
Fuck that, war isn't morally just and all you jackasses trying to put morals into it are idiots
War is about winners and loser and thats it there is no fucking rules
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>>684479048
Wow, look at the tard and laugh!
Japan declared a total war, meaning there is no longer a civilian population, and everyone is drafted into the war effort. Even children were put in plane spotter posts when short on manpower.
There were zero civilian Japanese casualties in the bombings, only Korean civilian casualties.
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>>684483951
tell a weaboo that he's not Japanese. and risk taking a katana to the knee, at the very least. you'd likely end up losing the top of your head.
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>>684484053
Exactly like your at war already and you start breaking rules what is the other country gonna do, declare war on you?
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>>684483951
Moot is Japanese moron
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>>684483253
Solid 9/11
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>>684479552
I fully support a full-scale Muslim genocide starting with Mecca getting eradicated, but there would definitely be some repercussions. Splinter cell terrorist groups worldwide would start massacring civilians and suicide bombing everything. Shit would get interesting real quick.
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>>684480306
>off by 800' and detonated of a clinic
>off by 800'
so the report says
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>>684484341
Bitch you didn't just go there! Fucking going to drop a bomb on you.
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>>684480248
Did we really? I've never heard that.
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>>684484155
BINGO. The "civilians" in Jap Japan were insurgents. They'd have fought to the last child. They WERE military. And we saved millions of Jap lives via the bombs.

Should the US continue firebombing Japan, in retaliation for Fukushima? Perhaps.
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>>684484345
The fuck did i just read.
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>>684484581
A reply on an image board, don't look so shocked.
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>>684480577
>defeated
good one
they infiltrated your land by the millions, I prosmise you we will wait and see.
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>>684478657
Morals are for the weak and foolish, to sacrifice the few for the need of the many, it was the only logical choice, the problem is the people who can not comprehend that it was, and question the necessity or ethics, bah! they do not understand logic and reason, only irrationality and unrealistic ideals
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>>684484345
Have you seen him?
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>>684484095
I suppose so thats why we are in this positon because a lot of autistic people like you elect rich autistic people to "lead us" (what a joke) and the world keeps himping this faggot agenda that roots out actual intellegence for solving our problems in the best way.
Honestly just go to sleep babyboomer. Because none of you seem to be able to pull you heads out of your asses i cannot wait for all of you to die off! FUCK YOU
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>>684480972
stupid weeb lol. What are you doing here? 4chan has nothing to do with Japanese shit anymore.
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If you're concerned about morally just in war, chances are you are going to lose said war.
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>>684484345
>>684484581
>>684484785
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>>684483951

moot is from new york and 4chan is based off of a japanese image board just like this one, but in japanese obvi.
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They obviously weren't. I laugh so hard at these kind of threads. The USA has killed far more people in 50 years than any war in the whole human race. Yet they call themselves heroes and pretend to make feel the rest of the world sorry for the 9/11 attacks that are very likely to have been provoked by themselves. Then make that an excuse to start another war. American people are brainwashed and so we all are because of them. They live in a lie of welfare and personal freedom,kek. And if any of you people are gonna to squeak like fucking apes save that to yourselves.

>buh buh muh freedoms you can't free the freedom
>butthurt non-american fag obviously jealous of our freedom and healthy lifestyle

Okay guys i get the joke. You can't prove me wrong.
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>mfw none of you have seen Chris (yes, that Chris), in Geisha regalia

I have some very interesting pics of Poole. VERY interesting.
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>>684478657
America and the UK teamed up with STALIN who killed 30+++million. Then america and UK bombed civilian cities all over germany. America is the most IMMORAL when it comes to war.
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>>684485144
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yes.
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>>684485195
thats what you think
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>>684485213
Population control. What's wrong with that? The US is ensuring the survival of our species. Don't you get it? The US is doing what no other country has the courage to do.
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>>684479160
You made your ancestors got genocided by the japs?
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>>684485292
Humble fag
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>>684485222
czeched. well done.
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>morality
>war
Choose one.
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>>684485213
You sir are an autistic conspiracy theorist. Pic related
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>>684485578
Well war exists no matter so morality really isnt and option
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>>684485405
>implying

The population has never stop to grow since the 1900s , why? Liberalism created by jewish english and american people. If it wasnt for that, the world population would have never increased this much. Either way that's not an excuse to wipe out millions of people.
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>>684485233
>bombed civilian cities all over germany.

that's a little unfair, America and Britain cant be held responsible for stalins actions in his own country and Germany bombed Britain first and they asked their big brother America for help in getting some payback.
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>>684485233
To be fair the Luftwaffe had been bombing the shit out of British cities years previously.
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>>684485578
Samefag

Just the lesser to imorals
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>>684485610
Okay, i may not know if the 9/11 attacks were prokoved by themselves. But all signs say so. Anyway are you denying The USA aren't a bunch of murderers?
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>>684485789
Hitler stuck to military targets. America and UK didn't. Hilter was vastly more moral.
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you can look at anything retrospectively and say you could have done better.
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>>684485778
it's a fantastic excuse to wipe out millions of people. in fact, the world would be a MUCH more livable place if the US would "wipe out" about 2-3 billion people.

in your lifetime, that will happen. and it's for the benefit of mankind. stop being selfish.
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>>684486043
This
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>>684486043
>Hitler stuck to military targets.

6 brazzilion...... oh, vey goiym. Yew forgot about the jew.
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>>684478657
Was it moral=NO
Was it necessary=NO
Was it the only option=NO
Did it happen=YES
Can we change the past=NO
Should we regret it=Absolutely not
Should we forget it=NO
Should it be justified=NO
Could we need to do it again=YES
Would we=Who knows
Should we really give two shits about something that happened over 70 years ago=Only faggots would
Is it in the past and isn't really a problem in the world today we should be worrying about, or should we worry about world hunger, overpopulation, pollution, sensitive faggots, whiny bitches, butt hurt pussies, idiots on the internet who honestly argue over things that have know affect on them and think that they know shit, myself included (note I'm here for some keks niggers, nothing more)=Well i dunno you stupid nigger, why did you event read my fucking gay shit post?
>Don't reply to this post, just continue being autistic
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>>684486006
This is about nukes being immoral can you not fucking read the itt?
Dude just fuck off>>684486006
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Yes it was justified
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>>684486043
except for the 12,000,000 Jewish civilians Hitler had gassed. And about 12,000,000 fags, gypsies, niggers and those with disabilities.

so Hitler killed about 24,000,000 civilians. I still don't see how the US or the UK ever killed 1 civilian in WWII.
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>>684486145
>>684486145
Yes but the want to solve a trouble created BY them. Bunch of autistics.
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>>684486217
Jews died from typhoid and old age, not hitler.
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>>684481068
>Maybe did the world a favour seeing what a couple of small nukes can do to cities.
This.

I'm sure the reason why we didn't see any other a-bombings until now is because we have seen the effect it had on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
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>>684478657

Of course it was morally just. Japan thought they could actually conquer the U.S. and attacked first.
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>>684486217
>implying they are human
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>>684486462
6 MILLION.
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>>684486006
how do you know that Japan's not responsible for 9/11 though? you literally have no proof.
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>>684486275
Have you not been reading my posts just look for a person raging about magnets i agree with you completely there is no morality in nukes or war just a better way of solving it but people are getting lazy and sloppy. Likr the people in charge or whatever

Look out anno here it comes!
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>>684486551
I know right. Typhoid fever sucks.
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>>684486357
Nukes used on sameworld issues are never justified its just a short sited lazy way out
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>>684486551
current estimates are 12 Million Jews.
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>>684486677
Nice meme mate, i rate 9/11 would repost
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>>684486043
That's not true, he attacked the French.
HoHo.
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>>684486433
I dare you to prove that, you faggot. What a pathetic fag you are. Comparing German kills to american kills haha. Kills are kills , moron.
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>>684486677
Hue hue hue,
Kekked
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if we didnt nuke japan and end the war, russia would have invaded and japan would have been converted to communism. a mainland invasion of japan would have cost millions of lives. also, nukes are cool. QED

what i've always found interesting is that the original motivation for the US to make the bomb was to stop germany from making one first. we dropped the bomb on japan after germany had surrendered, which means that development on the bomb continued even though the original motivation to do so had disappeared.
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It was right at the time just like it's the right time for the americunts to be wiped off the planet now.They're the biggest hypocrital nation that has ever existed.They live in a country that is the most corrupt, their whole wealth is down to deceipt & theft & most of all they kill more women & children than any other country has ever attempted to. Yet the stupid clueless cunts who live there actually believe their media.Fucks sake they're as stupid as fuck.look at their presidential candidates says everything really.
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>>684486682
it wasn't typhoid it was typhus - learn history. Epidemic typhus (also called "camp fever", "jail fever", "hospital fever", "ship fever", "famine fever", "putrid fever", "petechial fever", "Epidemic louse-borne typhus,"[1] and "louse-borne typhus"[2]) is a form of typhus so named because the disease often causes epidemics following wars and natural disasters. The causative organism is Rickettsia prowazekii, transmitted by the human body louse
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>>684486294
Suck my ass fag, there's no morality in nuking a country.
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>>684486677
>Look out anno here it comes!
Here what cums? are you masturbating?
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>>684486839
Oh I thought we were up to 24 million now.
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>>684483387
Maybe not with that shitty 3x5 flag, get a bigger one retard.
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>>684486581
I never said that you fucking idiot im not even politicaly involving myself nukes are for dumshits whole dont understand what consequence full circle is nukes are fucking immoral
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>>684486967
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>>684486839
>>684487054
nah more like 40 million, tops
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