>>684475663
http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/04/29/donald-trump-named-lawsuit-alleging-rape-teen-girl/

how does this make you feel?

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>>684475922
like slander

nothing new

>>684476094
well that explains why you're so delusional that you think he's going to president.

>>684475663
Going to be a shitty president I can't believe how stupid you americans and easily you are manipulated. You are a fool if you think he has any interest in making your country better he's doing it for the fame and money.

>>684475663
>future president
>Donald Trump
Pick one

>>684476206
delusional? how?

please elaborate

>>684476255
yeah exactly. he flip flops so much who knows what he really wants but you can be sure it won't be for himself to lose money.

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>>684476255
The other choices are a communist and a woman.

I'll stick with Trump tbh

I'm moved out of the States when the nigger took the chair. Now I'm finally returning home.

oops busted

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/05/14/panama-papers-show-donald-trumps-name-mentioned-over-3500-times/

>>684476607
already been debunked

I'm a registered republican and I will not vote for the guy. He's not even really a republican. Fuck him.

GOP: We keep losing elections because the last guy wasn't a big enough idiot.

I'm a registered republican and I will vote for the guy. He's a real republican. Trump 2016!

>>684476743
why is he not muh jesus enough for you

>>684476743
Obviously not. He is a savior.

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>>684476781
you're one to talk

>>684476890
Nope, I happen to think religion should not be part of the party's base either.

>>684476985
the primary is not really an election ship shit.

why do trump supporters have no idea how primaries work?

>>684476939

nice

trump barely managed to get the support of half of the voters from the less popular of the two parties
he'll lose in an epic landslide
you'd have to be pretty detached from reality to think he has a shot at the white house

>>684476939
I know you white trash losers think he's going to save you but you should be more focused on trying to save yourself. It's called personal responsibility.

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>>684477300
You can't even type in English correctly

you have to go back

ITT: Retards who think the president can actually do anything.

>>684477382
It's actually more like 15% if you look at the numbers voting in each state.

>>684477526
>supreme court doesn't exist

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>>684477499
>personal responsibility
>coming from a Liberal


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>684477526
they can fuck up the country like bush did and like obama has been able to pull the nose up from.

>>684475663
i love him! regressive liberals are human garbage

>>684477499
I just want the Mexican and Arabs dead

>>684477655
you really think Obama fixed anything?

>>684477609
I'm a republican dumb ass. We used to be the party of personal responsibility. That's the point, trump isn't one.

>>684477548

The fact that Obama didn't win in a "landslide" against the McCain-Palin ticket would indicate that as well.

>>684476480
Well you let that happen. Maybe if most of your country wasn't sucking trumps dick this entire time and actually payed attention some of the good candiates before they were forced to drop out. But no it was "VOTE FOR TRUMP HURDUR OUR FREEDOMS, MURRICA!! #1".

>>684477895
>one of the biggest landslides in history
>"not a landslide"

>>684477745

He caught the right guy... just saying.

>>684477953
I'm banking on an indy conservative candidate. I really think one has a chance this time around.

>>684478074
not a chance
why are americans so retarded

>>684478074
yeah lets hand the election to Hillary Clinton

>>684478015

That was definitely not a landslide, nor remotely the biggest in history, but they did call it a "mandate".

As a hardcore right-winger, this word sums up my opinion on Trump: NOOOOO!!!!111!one!!1uno!!
Why did Cruz have to lose?

>>684478177
it's already been handed to hillary since the gop couldn't find a single candidate who's remotely qualified for the job

>>684478247
Cruz was only marginally better. I think the good ones didn't want to go up against Clinton so they waited it out.

>>684475663
Feels good man

>>684478177
better her than a trump single term and losing a shit load of local elections to democrats.

>>684476544
Kek. Dubs checked

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>>684478284
The gap between Trump and Clinton is closing in recent polls. I'm optimistic about his chances.

>>684478497
yeah just like they said romney was close. it's all bullshit. he has some serious issues in many of the states he needs to win. polls are meaningless.

I hate hilary she is a lying cuntbag but I honestly believe she has Americas best interest in mind. I don't follow politics but the majority of people who hate her is because she's going to take their guns, in that case fuck em.

>>684477525
Accurate as fuck right here

>>684475663
feels great man

>>684477300
> trump supporters
>have no idea

You answered your own question, anon.

>>684476255

He is one of the richest and most famous people in America.

He already has fame and money you absolute fucking retard

>>684475663

He is a beacon of hope.

Wish there was a way to mix Trump's xenophobic, nationalist tendencies with someone who might be a good president.

I'm feelin the bern because muh 1% and general disdain for people who multiply their shitloads of money without actually performing any work and then find ways to avoid paying taxes on it.

But I hate SJWs and have no problem with kebab removal policies, only that it might escalate into a situation where my personal freedoms are eventually infringed upon. On the other hand, my personal freedoms are pretty much guaranteed to be infringed upon by an SJW agenda.

>>684478606
they hate her because they believe the systematic and long-term smear campaign against her. it's the same class of people who believe all the other nonsense conspiracy theories. the tin foil hat crowd thinks she's a murderer, dumb shit like that.

He's better than Hillary.

>>684476607

>linking addictinginfo

Fuck off liberal trash

>>684478781
That's the only reason any one can really claim since they have no idea what trump even wants to do. That won't cut it in the general election, not when people actually like and support Clinton.

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>>684478589
Trump isn't Romney

>>684478606
we have something called a 2nd amendment and it said very clearly SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

DONALD TRUMP / JOHN MILLER

2016

>>684478908
No he isn't but he'll lose even worse than Romney. And that's sad. even romney hates him. W has distanced himself from trump. how fucked up do you have to be for that to happen?

>>684478212
with the current level of polarization it was definitely a landslide. he got the most electoral votes and the largest percentage of the popular vote of any candidate since the 1980s. before that it was a different game. the gop scare tactics, anti-intellectualism, and populism hadn't yet made the country so extremely uninformed as they are today. it was definitely a landslide, in that obama won pretty much every swing state and got won the popular vote by 7.2% margin. that won't happen very often in today's political climate. except this year it will, because trump isn''t qualified to take a guided tour of the white house.

>>684478707
Thinking trump is one of the richest people in the world. KEK. Nobody knows trump outside of America, go to China, UAE, Russia and they'll laugh at trump.

>>684479012
The republican establishment who prefers to suck Obama's cock doesn't like him

wow shocker

>>684478723
> my personal freedoms are pretty much guaranteed to be infringed upon

how so exactly?

>>684477382
If the republican party is less popular, why do we control the house and senate?

Also, the democratic party is only popular with 12-24 year olds, the most retarded demographic in the US

>>684475663

We had this thread last night. All you need to know about his "opponent" is the people at Hilary's rallys. Literally this:

Nigger Nigger Nigger SandNigger Nigger Nigger Feminist Sandnigger Nigger Nigger Sandnigger Nigger Feminist, etc.

That isn't america. That's a good target to hit with a UAV.

>>684479134
gerrymandering, for the most part. that will be stopped when trump drags all of your local politicians down along with him

>>684477754
who are you voting for dipshit

I wish this was happening someplace else so I could laugh at it from afar and not have it impact me directly. While I hope he doesn't win, I am glad to finally see a campaign that doesn't revolve around the regli-tard agenda. So tired of the Jesus freaks celebrating the virtues of the dark ages.

>>684479012
W wouldn't have stood a chance in this gop primary. he'd be out faster than rick perry. the gop has gone from uncle scrooge conservative to nazi in less than 2 decades. congrats, america.

TRUMP 2016

Make the USFL great again

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If youre American and you DON'T vote for our glorious leader, you are a piece of shit

>>684479134
voter turnout and gerrymandering
this is common knowledge and undisputed fact
try to keep up
>low information voter

>>684479316
If the election was tomorrow, I'd stay home. I'm hoping for an independant conservative candidate joins the race before then.

I don't do "not as bad as" or "better A than B" i vote only for someone who aligns with my views. Neither Trump nor Clinton, and certainly not Sanders, do.

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>>684479399
>nazi

Stop getting your news from facebook

>>684479229
Gerrymandering?

That sounds like a fancy word for 'You stated a fact and i don't like it'

>>684475663
I am excited to serve the Führer.


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>>684479134
actually, the democratic party is popular with all demographics except low information white men

>>684479134


"the democratic party is only popular with 12-24 year olds, the most retarded demographic in the US"

>>i'm unpopular in my peer group

>>684479503
If Hillary gets elected and you voted for somebody other than Trump, you should actually fucking kill yourself

>>684476364

Shillary's the next prez.

>>684479662

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>>684479528
nope
google it and educate yourself

>>684479399
Yes, we need to purge some shit from the party.

It should be down to:

>Fiscally conservative
>Less Government
>Personal responsibility

That's it. No religious pandering, no pandering to the white supremacist/white trash crowd and no flip flopping.

>>684479742

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>>684479706
That's just nonsense. Plus, I know what Hillary will do. I have no idea what Trump will do. And neither do you.

>>684476206
>Implying no one who has been slandered by the public or the media can become president

go back to your safe space faggot

>>684479690

>low information white men

Yes, the more educated ones are the low information voters.

You can't just label a demographic 'low information' just because it doesn't align with your liberal propaganda.

>>684479528
Wow dude.

ger·ry·man·der
ˈjerēˌmandər/
verb
1.
manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.

>>684479512
get out of your bubble some time
the whole world understands that trump is a nazi
literally only low information republicans who haven't picked up on this

JOHN MILLER
2016

>>684475663

make me happy to finally get someone in office that i want there.

>>684479691
I can't even hold conversation with 16-24 year olds about politics because all they do is cry about how much they think Trump is going to do another holocaust

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>>684479933
you are calling me low information while calling trump a nazi

LOL

>>684479690
don't forget the rich too. but it makes sense for them to vote republican. they just have a really good machine for, and spend a lot of money, tricking the poor white trash into voting for them too. it's sad.

>>684479917
ROFL, finally stumped a Trump voter with a fucking dictionary of all things.

Obviously Trump isn't perfect, let's be serious he's probably terrible, but so is Hillary, and her pandering, patronizing bullshit is a serious turnoff, if anything Trump would only last one term, after that Hillary will be to old to run and we can vote for someone we actually like

>>684479771
except the gop was never for those things
fiscally conservative
>spend billions on military and pointless wars
less government
>restrict people's right to get married, have abortions, form unions, etc
personal responsibility
>allow corporations to do whatever they want with no consequences

>>684480004
tell me white trash, how exactly will trump make your life better? be specific.

>>684479838
if you're delusional enough to think that Hillary might not be worse than Trump, you should probably stop paying attention to politics because you are the dumbest motherfucker I know

>>684479892
Because educated voters get behind a demagogue who dismisses the issue of national debt because "we can just print more money."

>>684480213
that's racist

>>684479892
I didn't. learn to read.
I specifically said "low information white men"
that doesn't mean all white men are low information
jesus fucking christ you guys are stupid

>>684480205
They used to be. The party has been hijacked.

Drip trump as the candidate, expell all voters who voted for Trump and ditch the Tea Party. From that weakened position, we can build again. Many democracts will join the party then.

>>684480101
Why would I vote for a party that wants to increase my taxes?

>>684479917
I'm still right. Democratic Party is more popular with young people. What, do you think I'm lying to you or something?

>>684476480
>>684476480
Only a fuck tard equates socialism with communism. A Trump future will most likely look like scenes from Idiocracy. If you enjoy being a slave to the wealthy.. Go ahead. Do not cry about your pathetic future when you have to atol for your choices. Apologize now to those who will inherit the country that you are willing to destroy because of your inability to use your brain. Fuck you. I hope you end up in a rekt thread.

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TRUMP THREESOME
What does /b think about Trump going on record for having multiple threesome So?

>>684480261
>demagogue
>that word again

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>>684480407
I believe socialists/communists are not human beings and deserve to be thrown off a building tbh :D

>>684480101
This is the single dumbest thing I've ever read

like how uninformed can you be

>>684480394
you only think that when yuo don't understand economics and you define taxes in a narrow way. raising/lowering taxes is meaningless.

Why not say, instead, "why would i vote for someone who wants to make me worth less?" which i think is closer to what you mean.

then you'd see the republicans are all for that.

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>>684476206
>>684476743

>>684480012


probably because you showed them your "power level" or whatever.

a) who talks to a 16 year old about anything

b) take it back to strormfront /pol/ack

>>684480048
why can't you racists at least be open with your racism? what's the point of sitting here all day yelling about "dindus" and "niggers" and "mudslimes" and "shitskins", and then turn around and go "how DARE you call me a racist?"

And where's the pride in that? What happened to that personal responsibility you claim to love?

>>684480672
I don't think you understand economics tbh

>>684480389
>they used to be
WHEN?

>>684475663
join my skype group.

I love hillary and nigger coxx

https://join.skype.com/wKSPTStwYuJm

JOHN MILLER / DONALD TRUMP
2016

MAKE THE USFL GREAT AGAIN

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>>684480713
I'm a proud racist

>>684480394
because you understand how taxes and human societies work

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>>684480713
Aww is the little babbi offended by word? awww

>>684480713
This man makes a good point.

Why spend your time on 4chan spouting off racial slurs interwoven with how much you love trump and then get mad when people accuse trump supporters of being racist?

Like why not just own up to it?

>>684480401
how old are you?

>>684480588
Considering that most of the richest (both economically and socially) counties are socialist at some level. This includes most of Europe, Canada, and many others. People who do not understand the difference between socialism and communism deserve nothing else but to be slaves. Human or not.

>>684480213
By pissing off faggots like you

>>684480794
Yeah, sure.

>>684480883
good for you. vote trump, then.

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>>684475663
Like I did at the end of this movie, but I feel it for the United States.

>>684480344
Apparently you really didn't learn to read.

You can't just label a demographic 'low information' just because it doesn't align with your liberal propaganda.

>>684480936
which word are you talking about?
you're the one who went full retard when correctly labelled a nazi

>>684480983
because then they'd get their asses kicked. they can only do it anonymously the pussies.

>>684480936
If you're going to put the star of david in the campaign logo why go to the effort of attacking something he actually said?

Like why not just shout "kike" at the top of your lungs and express what you really feel?

>>684479129
Freedom of speech comes to mind first and foremost. Labeling alternate views as hatespeech and whatnot, censorship, thought police stuff in general.

I would say that by far, freedom of speech/thought/media is the most important right in preventing the development of a government that is allowed to exercise too much control over your life. That's why it scares me to see how many young people have no qualms with censoring certain types of "hatespeech" and refuse to comprehend how allowing that first bit of censorship may lead to the eventual censorship of any viewpoints not aligned with whatever SJW regime the future holds.

Then of course there's muh firearms.

>>684481055
I didn't, you stupid fuck. learn to read.

>>684478707

Trump is a fraud owned by saudis and other foreign tycoons.

Trump is a clown created to sell a BRAND. His entire life is a lie that murrican cattle swallows.

You fatfucks are voting for Ronald McDonald

>>684481253
You just described Hilary Clinton

>>684481215
freedom of speech? are you joking? trump wants to increase the jumping to lawsuit for anything that criticizes him.

i stopped reading at this point because it's clear you have no idea what trump stands for

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>>684479933
>the whole world
holy rhetorical fallacy, Batman.
...also, who cares what outsiders think? Mind your own fucking business, and tend to your own gardens.
Most of the rest of the world smells like human waste and is backward and uncivilized, and even in the west, in better spots like the EU nations, where deodorant and dentists are viewed with suspicion, they're imploding, while the US, is better positioned to survive.
The rest of the world is worried that the US will elect a nationalist. The US recognizes that if we reject a popular nationalist now, we increase the potential for an ultranationalist to arise.
Finally, we're electing a President, not a priest-king. Unlike the EU, where unelected men in suits rule by fiat, the US can block the unpopular motions if a leader goes rogue, like we've done with 90% of Obama's horrible ideas.

The US was founded by men who wanted to stay as far away from Europe and the 'mongs as possible. I see no reason why this should change.

>>684481253
[citation needed]

EVERYBODY IS LIZARD PEOPLE

ILLUMINATIS GUYS RUN

>>684481329

Bill had to be blackmailed by the joos to get shit done in their favor

Chump sold his whore daugthter to a joo family.

>>684481383
also a million times more experienced and qualified than any other candidate
but who cares about facts when you can have memes

>>684481215
the whole young kids + safe spaces argument is pretty rich when the baby boomers who get all their information from cable news will only watch either Liberal (tm) or Conservative (tm) channels to avoid ideas that might make them think, and actively support the notion government should be allowed to kill anyone anywhere in the world that makes them uncomfortable.

>>684481253
yes, exactly. that's all trump is a fucking logo. he's flip flopped so much who knows what he really wants to do.

15% of the republican voters, so really more like 7% of the people, have fallen for it so far. and that number's high.

>>684481459
>founded by men who wanted to stay as far away from Europe and the 'mongs as possible

Well, religious fanatics and criminals, to be fair.

>>684481215
Wow really freedom of speech? Thats funny. With Trump there will be no freedom only what he wants. True slavery is when you do not know that you are a slave. The concept of free speech has been removed from most societies long ago. Those with power and money do not want those with neither to have a true opinion.

>>684481459
>tfw this is what uneducated americans actually think the world is
always from the people who've never been anywhere

>>684481521
Hillary Clinton is a career criminal who should be in prison.

Somehow the best option?

>>684481586
I get the feeling that trump is really hoping he doesnt win. The fact that every day he has a new policy position on ideas he is both for and simultaneously also against, suggests that he might be a little out of his depth.

>>684481724
>quotes right-wing propaganda
>thinks he's qualified to make a judgement

leave it up to someone else you sheep

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>>684481724
Americans still haven't seen the best option. But they're getting there, slowly.

>>684481381
>>684481586
>>684481724
In the end the best choice should be the one who will fix the broken system. Bernie Sanders.

>>684480407
We are already slaves to the wealthy.

There is probably no way to reverse that. Definitely not with just a socialist president. Congress would have to be a majority socialists too. And even then, they'd probably continue to take it in the ass from a small group of wealthy individuals and businesses.

That's why I'm tempted to vote for someone who promises to remove kebab, since the other shit will probably remain the same either way.

>>684481808
i get the sense that he has gotten used to telling people what they want to hear, in board rooms and shit. they never figure out that he told some other boardroom meeting something else last week. now he's too old to get out of that habit.

>>684481724
this election seems like one of the all time turd sandwhich vs giant douche choices ever.

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>>684481902
communists deserve to be shot

>>684481724
yeah, how did those smear campaigns turn out for you?
I'm not a hillary fan, but these attempts to paint her as a criminal have been painfully desperate and counterproductive for the republicans. if anything, the inability to find any wrongdoing has hurt the public trust in the republican party and strengthened hillary's support with average voters. you done fucked up again

>>684482007
That seems equally likely

>Clinton vs Trump

I think I'm going to sit this one out.

>>684482053
dank meme bro

>>684482054

jesus how delusional can you be? Not even the Sanders supporters want her

>>684481931
the way to reverse it is a redistribution of wealth. but this won't be done by poltics. on the other hand, the itnernet has already set this into motion. in a few generations, things will level out again without bloodshed.

>>684482054
yeah, exactly. it's really just sad that some people, luckily a small minority, actually believe that shit. i disgree with her on many things but thinking she murdered someone is just dumb

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>>684481931
>We are already slaves to the wealthy

Yes

>There is probably no way to reverse that.

Correct - this is inevitable in a capitalist society.

>Definitely not with just a socialist president.

Bernie Sanders isn't a socialist. Socialists don't want to fix capitalism. Their explicit goal is to emancipate the people from the rich ruling class by eliminating their base of power - taking away their ownership of society's means of production.

Socialism is about ABOLISHING capitalism once and for all.

>>684482172
not even supporters of a different candidate support her? WHOA DUDE
>fucking retard

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#YOLO!!!!I
I THINK HE SOULD PLAY IN MY SPURDO SPARDE GAME
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>>684482172
they'll come on board once sanders supports her, dont' worry. and if he agrees to be her VP,. the election is over trump goes down in flames

>>684482054
>the inability to find any wrongdoing


I'm done. I'm actually done. The liberals do a really good job with brainwashing these days.

Goodbye thread. Have fun believing everything the liberal media spoonfeeds you.

RIP Intelligent thought

>>684481145
Ya, lol.

"how dare you call me a nazi! I'll show you! Suck on this anti-semetic meme I put together!!"

>>684481861
>not accepting the truth
Stay cuck, anon

>>684482492
yeah go running when your right wing propaganda nonsense is revealed for what it is. good riddance

it's the president we deserve !

>>684482453
Oh man, that's precious. Fuck Clinton and fuck the Democratic party. And fuck Sanders if he kowtows to you corrupt bastards.

>>684482492
>claims wrongdoing
>won't give any examples
nice try, bro

>>684482345
I hate Trump but I can readily believe that woman is actually a false flagger.

Communism
>working together, getting things done, getting somewhere

Capitalism
>people counting stuff and that's pretty it nowadays

I choose 1.

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>>684482769
Good choice, comrade!

Quite happy. Since we UKIP supporters get classed as the UK version of Trump fans

>Trump, or a baby eating Baba Yaga flying on a broomstick
>prefering the Baba Yaga
Oh well, at least you can comfort yourself amidst the burning remains of your home that she at least saved a little bit on Air Force One.

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>>684482769
>Communism
>working together, getting things done, getting somewhere

no, communism=building a raft to escape a communist country

The GOP hates Trump and say they won't support him even if he wins the nomination. What does that mean? The GOP will just say "No, you aren't the Republican nominee"?

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>>684475663
Nothing really

>>684482726
No she's just old and old people are retarded. Definitely too retarded to even think of being a false flag.

I hate Trump but when someone's old and dumb, it doesn't mean much. You probably have the same level stupidity between older supporters of other politicians.

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>>684482872
>capitalism
>being poor white trash playing banjos and drinking turpentine from a still while complaining about teh niggers

No thanks

>>684482453
Maybe i'm saying this more out of hope than rational thought, but there's a zero percent chance bernie sanders is the vice presidential choice.

If he wimps out and takes the bitch seat in a clinton administration I'm done with politics forever. Im gonna go full thoreau and fuck off to the woods jim bridger style.

The "problems" for clinton are as follows

1) She's not a very good campaigner
2) a lot of people seem to hate her on an almost primeval level, the way an infant is afraid of a snake the first time it sees one.
3) there's a lot of time between now and november for the republicans to get their shit together
4) the sanders insurgency has exposed the fact that liberals aren't so hot on a candidate like hillary, who is less of a person and more of a human landfill etc.etc.

>>684482769
>Capitalism
>people counting stuff

Yes sadly that's what it comes down to now. Capitalism was a good way to climb out of povery quickly. Now it's just shit.

>>684481381
I don't really know what he stands for. I probably won't even vote. A two party system is pretty retarded, just like the american public. And the president doesn't do anything blah blah

My state will clearly be voting Republican anyway.

It just irks me that one day it could be illegal to state something as logical as "transgender people are mentally ill." Perhaps it is untrue, I'm not qualified to say, but my right to say that without fearing legal persecution is very important to keeping ideas like that alive and not just fringe theories.

It probably doesn't matter since ideas like that will die out anyway as SJW influence is seeping into public schools.

>>684482602
That's funny because I never have right wing propaganda forced down my throat

It's always liberal cuck shit

Facebook is chock full of liberal propaganda, CNN, MSNBC, addictinginfo, Jezebel, Gawker is posted constantly while liberals bitch about how much they don't like Fox. (I don't watch fox, by the way)

Liberals control most of the media, yet republicans are the only ones who have propaganda.

lmfao

>>684482991
Yeah no doubt. just because some old nazi symp shows up at a rally doesn't mean the candidate is a nazi. The whole Trump is Hitler thins is dumb.

There are dozens of reasons not to vote for Trump before you get anywhere near racism as a factor.

>>684482932
Yuropoorean here, what is a GOP?

>>684482932
If they don't get behind him he risks losing the full support of the Republican fund-raising and campaigning machine.

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>>684483116
Capitalism is simply the choice of the strong willed

Communism is the choice of the parasite who wishes to be a slave

>>684483190
Republican Party A.K.A. Grand Old Party

>>684478016
You realize Obammy had jackshit to do with that? It was all the seals and military. Obammy just took the credit

>>684483134
>was a good idea
>is now shit

i couldn't agree more.

>>684483278
I agree but you can't use Cuba as an example, it's just silly

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>>684483126
>I'm done with politics forever. Im gonna go full thoreau

No, don't go off by yourself. Keeping the governed isolated is what the ruling class wants. Instead, we must organize and demand revolutionary change!

>>684483185
you know you can turn off content that bothers you on facebook right?

>>684483262
He has more than enough money to fund his own campaign.

>>684483278
While in reality, between and around those 1% fancy skyscrapers the streets look much worse than Havana. More stress, more poverty, more shit.

>>684483262
but he claims he doesn't need their dollars, he doesn't want to be their slave.

oh wait yeah he does

another fucking flip flop by the donald

>Communist Party USA
>2000 members
>seats in the senate: none
>seats in the house: none
>most recent presidential candidate: Gus Hall, 1984
>share of votes: 0.04%
>republicans: OMG COMMUNISTS EVERYWHERE HAAAALP

>>684483262
So, Trump will just have to use his own money? I thought they were going to do something like put somebody else up for the Republican nomination and force Trump to make his own party.

>>684483278
So capitalism is for people who think that the master-slave dynamic is a good thing, and that those who can seize power by any means should be able to control others. Got it.

>>684479717
This, sadly

>right wing politician says what the people want to hear
>HURR POPULISM DEMAGOGUE WORSE THAN HITLER
>left wing politician says what the people want to hear
>IT'S CALLED DEMOCRACY I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO UNDERSTAND IT WITH YOUR SHEEP MENTALITY UNLIKE AN INTELLECTUAL LIKE ME

>>684483549
You can't turn off ads or suggested content.

Nice try.

>>684482312
The perfect approach is Democratic Socialism. Protecting those who cannot protect themselves. Helping everyone to be equal (at least minimally equal)

>>684483694
as a system it works fine. it's just the "hard work will raise you up" mantra has always been bullshit. working hard won't do shit for you.

you need to have some sort of marketable and valuable skill. and those who do can easily rise up from meager beginnings.

The system works.

>>684483624
He doesn't need their money you literal retard

Another dumb fucking point by a liberal

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The three pillars of capitalism:

1. Private ownership of the means of production

2. Wage labor

3. Market exchange for profit

These are your enemies.

>>684484031
sure he does asshole. he won't spend his own money. the money he has now he loaned himself for the primary and it will be paid back.

i wish trump supporters weren't so dumb.

>>684484031
except that he does
he's been begging for money the whole time
while claiming to be self funded
in the general he'll need more money than he actually has
and no, he doesn't have 10 billion dollars

>>684483653

The conventional wisdom is that there are few things worse than failing to show a united front behind a party's "chosen" candidate. A schism like you were describing would have disastrous results in the general.

But then again conventional wisdom seems to have gone out the window this go-around so who the fuck knows?

>>684483359
For realsies? Grand Old Party? Golly Ol' Policies? Grumpy Old Politicians? Grey Odorous People?

wow

>>684484108
simplified, because republicans can't read anything longer than 20 words

Why can't we have a four party system?

>>684484189
If they were, they woudn't be Trump supporters.

>>684481539
I don't understand what you're saying.

>>684481673
I mostly agree with the last part of what you said. Freedom of speech is in a pretty bad state, but you still have the right to say and publish pretty much whatever you want. Mass media and other factors will probably keep your ideas from ever becoming influential, but I'm saying that it's important to be allowed to make Nazi zines in your basement or whatever, or even to be able to discuss ideas that are not in the interest of the current government.

And we still have those rights. They are crucial to the spread of ideas that might one day make a difference in government.

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>>684478589
Hillary can't beat Trump. He's going to give her the Rosie O'Donnell treatment and stupid America will pick him because it's a popularity contest.

>>684483730
well on one hand you have the notion that government's domestic policy should reflect the needs of the people

and on the other hand you have the notion that the government should build a giant wall to keep darkies out.

so i guess i dont expect you to understand.

>>684483141
The problem, and I'm chiming in here as a very confused European, is that those "fringe theories" are factually untrue. They're not even theories, they're just untrue, kept alive by this insane notion that, even in the face of overwhelming contradictory evidence, a public display of ignorance is something to be praised. Usually this stance is doubled-down on due to fear, plain old retardation, or this insane idea of sticking with one's prideful guns even after being called out.

Listen, I don't identify with the partisan system there, but the US has a severe problem with factualism. Just because you think something is logical, good or in accordance with your bias, doesn't mean it's truth or fact. There is simply no discussion beyond that, not in an intellectually healthy society.

>>684483925
"Democratic socialism" is probably not what you think it is if you're just getting into socialist ideas and are a Bernie Sanders supporter. It's really just a term for evolutionary socialism, achieving revolutionary change by capturing the state through the existing parliamentary processes.

Democratic socialism is not welfare capitalism or "fixing" capitalism with a few socialist ideas. That's social democracy. Socialism understands that you cannot fix capitalism because it is fundamentally authoritarian. The ruling class will always just undo your reforms over time.

Just look at the 20th century - we already live in "fixed" capitalism. It was supposed to be fixed by the New Deal. Yet here we are again!

>>684483847
if you hover over suggested content there's a little x in the top corner, boom gone forever.

>>684484189
You can't expect Trump voters to watch news or pseudo-news shows like John Oliver. It was made in the CURRENT_YEAR!, they can't have that.

>>684483847
Says a lot about you then if leftist stuff is in your suggested content, ya cunt!

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I AM GOING TO STOP TRUMP. AS SOON AS IM DONE HERE. BLACKLIVESMATTER.

>>684483572
It's not just about the money, but the connections and expertise of the party in campaigning during a presidential election.

He could arguably do it on his own, it's been working so far, but he'll have a stronger campaign with full GOP support.

>>684484634
no they don't

>>684484480
>the US has a severe problem with factualism. Just because you think something is logical, good or in accordance with your bias, doesn't mean it's truth or fact. There is simply no discussion beyond that, not in an intellectually healthy society.

That's a great point, and it's absolutely true that the United States has always had a problem with anti-intellectual religious dogma and fundamentalism. It's been a problem since the first Puritans stepped of the boat.

>>684484248
Its meant to harken to the notion that the republicans were once a brokerage party that encompassed a wide variety of ideas. I dont know if that was ever the case, but it certainly doesn't seem like it now.

>>684475663
Love it. I'm looking forward to when he gives out free guns to whites and let's us exterminate the niggers from this country.

>>684475663
All of your candidates are jokes...I feel very bad for you guys.

>>684482312
Cool man, thanks. Yeah I suppose I'm not using correct terminology or even informed enough to discuss various forms of government. I just became jaded as a pothead teenager and have some tinfoil hats in my closet that I'm probably another decade away from wearing all the time.

>>684484363
Of course you dont.

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>>684484804
It was a parody post faggot. Of course they don't.

>>684484552
I'm not convinced it is a hair peice. It has this menacing aura that only something that was alive, in one sense or another, could have.

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>Trump/GOP split
>Bernie forms own party

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>>684483126
Kek was not expecting human landfill at the end of that sentence

>>684480252
lol show me one quote of trump's that isn't complete fucking nonsense and shows that he's anything other than an uninformed dipshit

>>684484417
>well on one hand you have the notion that government's domestic policy should reflect the needs of the people
On one hand you have "muh minority rights that I never actually fought for, nor ever will"
On the other hand you have "muh wall"

I think I have a good understanding that both sides are actually just spouting populist nonsense without actually offering any structurally sound solutions to any of today's issues.

It's also obvious that only one side is blaming the other for "populism", utterly blind to their own flaws.

As we say "the bullet comes from left".

I feel great

>>684485889
>thinks people should need to fight for basic human rights
>claims to be civilized

>>684485889

where even to begin?

>>684475663

Happy that he's succeeded in driving a permanent wedge between the two lunatic sides of the GOP to the point their party will never be considered relevant again.

VERY happy that he's handed the Democrats the presidency for another 4, but likely 8 years.

Trump literally WAS the hero America needed. His egomanical bullshit and ability to do/say anything with a straight face, no matter how COMPLETELY batshit retarded it was as well as his penchant for being on TV have quite possibly SAVED THIS NATION from the fucking trash in the South in a way that almost no one else could have pulled off.

>>684484853
That's actually a good thing, so you know what to expect from them without having to figure out the stance of each politician individually. Also ensures they have more voting power in any given house, when they all agree on the official party line.

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>>684475663
I'd rather have Pewdiepie become president than this orangutan