>>684441894

What does "literally" means?

>>684442144
He means figuratively.

>>684441894
What if literally doesn't literally exist?

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>>684441894
prove it faggot

this is not some philosophical or religion stuff, im talking science here. (OP)

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So If i made a porno.. I would exist tho.

amiright?

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op means we dont exist in literature

>>684442730
lol thats not what i meant

>>684442833
>lol
kek

>>684442730

oh.. what a presumptuous fag OP then

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>>684441894
what if literally isn't literally literal

>>684442833
you arent even op faggot

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take a look the picture (OP)

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>>684442833
dubs holy fuck

I studied letters

I'm literally capable

>>684443066
fml

If nothing exists, then your argument and/or proof that nothing exists also stops existing meaning that everything exists but then your argument and proof about nothing existing exists but then........................

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>>684442144
>>684442833
>>684443066
INCOMING !!!

the difference between the two drawings are just the arrangement. and arrangement is not made of matter or energy. youre just an arrangement so you dont exist

saddest thread on the entire internet right now

>>684443257
you're just a derangement, and you persist

>>684443389
well think about it

>>684443257
Is this the shitty argument?

god OP you are really gay today

>>684442983
>>684443257
not op
you dont exist because science has evidence that everything is just a projection of the real world (op)

>>684443257
We aren't the arrangement tho, we are the arranged parts.

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WHAT IF I TOLD YOU
PLAY THIS FUCKING SHITTY GAME
EBIN!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>684443257
isnt magnetism an energy that arranges things?!

>>684443638
Explain how that would work, bud

>>684443257
>implying i cant exist without matter or energy

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>>684443638
If everything is a hologram and you are some matrix of cognition even and not a single actual atom is actually in your body. You still exist fag, you're just not existing in a way your use to.

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>>684441894

>>684443638
Not OP. (OP)

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>>684441894
reality is a persistent hallucination

>>684443638
youre not op

>>684441894
if i really dont exist
that doesnt mean i dont exist
it means my definition of existence is wrong

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>>684444740

>>684443257
13 circles on right 12 on left....how am I the only one who is being driven insane by that?

>>684445238
its 13 left and 12 right

>>684443862
underrated

If I didnt arrange it to form a triangle it would just be a circles with random positions. What if your not arrange would you still be you?

>>684445507
Sorry bout that my mistake

>>684443257 Well that's ... just ... stupid. You're entire premise is horrible. The abstract concept of arrangement doesn't require matter or energy, sure. But arrangements of objects are composed of matter and energy more often than not. So no, you're dumb.

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>>684446523
It the arrangement that defines you. Not your composition. Take away the arrangement and your not you anymore

>>684447213
we may perceive ourselves very differently from how we actually are, and we may not have any understanding of our true nature. but that doesnt meant we dont exist

>>684447506
for example. if our eyes had a red tint on them. we would see everything, and outselves, as red. of course we arent all red, and our perception may not line up with what exists, and we may not have any idea what color we actually are, but that doesnt mean that we dont exist.

>>684447213
So? Yes, if my atoms were broken apart and turned into toasters then, yes you are correct - i wouldnt be me. But, I still exist until then and the toasters exist at that point. Op is underage fag trying to sound smart.

>>684446822
Hallucination is persistent

Lol i am a fag (op)

>>684447213
Yeah, no. Have you ever studied biology, physics, chemistry? The arrangement AND composition of our atoms allow us to exist in the manner that we do. Your argument fails on both a scientific and philosophical level. You stated:

A. Arrangements are not made of matter or energy.

B. We are arrangements.

Therefore

We don't exist.
You're argument fails on a philosophical level because A is false. Arrangements CAN be made of matter and energy, therefore your conclusion doesn't work.

Im op and i must admit this is a shitty thread. But just before you go back to porn thread.. just think about it.. Youre just an arrangement just like the triange. You dont exist /b/

>>684448493
But you are wrong since you dont exist. I can prove it with a simple experiment...

get up and go to the bathroom and look in the mirror. You will see a fag.

(Op)

It is a statistical inevitability that we are a simulation of a more advanced human species. so you could literally argue that we dont exist

>>684448888
You are a dumbass. Why not go to school and learn instead of pretending like you have any actual thoughts?

>>684449007
No it is not....

Arrangement is a concept just like numbers and colors. They dont exist

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>>684441894
I have pleasure in doing many things, sometimes even my work.
So, real or fake, i can't give a fuck

Your compositiion exist cause mad up of matter. But the concept of being you is just an arrangement of those matter. Without that arrangement you would just be a random molecules. Youre not there anymore

>>684449270
Colors and numbers don't exist, huh?

Do you understand what color is...i mean not what you perceive it to be but what it actually is?

And numbers? Damn nigger...if ur gay ass has 3 nigger dicks in it, then that's what it has. ..that number does not deviate until another dick is added (which is likely for fags like u) or subtracted after you ass is loaded in nigger cum

Fuck this shit.. op here. This is getting boring.. fake ops take over

>>684450152
Then explain....you said YOU CAN PROVE

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>>684449878
>>684450240

>>684450575
Good job faggot

>>684450575
Look at this fag (op)

>>684450575
Kek what a faggy picture to attach [op]

itt: word games

you haven't proven anything except your tenuous grasp on semantics

exist
have objective reality or being
live, especially under adverse conditions

Humans can be confirmed by peers, therefore we are exist as an objective reality. Anything else is just spiritual woo or junior-high-tier reductionist bullshit, and get it the fuck out of my face.

>>684450575
>2015+2-1
> naked statues of men

Confirmed homosexual

>>684441894
"Does not exist, take an exit"
I hear the voices insinuating
Feeds me the words to this song that I am singing
Sunlight, 7:20pm early September
Standing, looking at a photograph you don't remember
You look out of breath, and me like I am faking
As a matter of fact, I don't recall this being taken
'Cause you don't actually exist, and I start shaking
"Does not exist, take an exit"

>>684450575
Haha you are funny

>>684450575
Op here. Kill yourself

>>684450876
first pic i found in google for facepalm

>>684442983
there is a circle more on the left picture

>>684442730
That image is literally Bill-Nye-tier comprehension of Descartes' points
>I think therefore I am? So if I stop thinking I stop existing?

>>684450575
You are very clever!

>>684442833
Fuck off newfag

>>684451348
yah.. my mistake

>>684451348
Thus proofing my point

>>684451283
You are stupid

>>684451283
What a dumbass

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>>684448934
Translation: "You're wrong because I'm right."

Great counter argument OP!

>>684451283
Google? Kek how gay. Kill yourself

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>>684441894
ITT: OP is an underage B& faggot who is high on weed and trying to sound smart, but keeps digging himself into a hole
Cogito, ergo sum

>>684441894
>>/asd/

>>684451603
not op. i reply to good argument not to shitty ones

>>684442615
u just found out about quantum physics.. duh and congrats. fucking atheist think they buy science. but gods not possible.. u can tell them about quantum all u want, they wont even buy that its science, fucks up their world view..

>>684451603
Yeah good strawman...

Did you not understand the triangle? I can post again if u are that stupid.

>>684443638
In other words we are all living in a simulation, correct? Or perhaps living is the wrong word, and perhaps some of the people we meet aren't people at all, they too are part of the simulation. Correct?

>>684451864
what are you talking about?

>>684452026
Well, you didn't exactly explain it. We all thought you were just trying to triforce

>>684452108
thats not what i meant. this is not some sci-fi movies

>>684452109
Get an education newfag...

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>>684452109
its book stuff. don't sweat it. or ask a better question.
>not worth an answer so far

>>684451864
Agreed, athiestfags think quantum is magic woo, and dismiss it out of hand as such. Won't even take the time to study it and see that yes, that's science

>>684441894
You can't prove that. I merely can't proof my existence, but that doesn't mean I don't exist. You should be intellectually honest and be agnostic about my existence.

>>684452219
U r stupid. Look at how they ate ARRANGED!!

You do not exist, only the arrangement...which is abstract and not physical

>>684452309
That's a pretty badly written book

>>684452109
he's talking about the weird science of quantum. Multiple universe theory, electron tunneling, collapse of microstates under observation, that sort of shit

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>>684452108
simulation is correct. idk about fake people. probly. if u ask someone in a higher dimension, yes we are them pretending. but we are not in that one. we are in ours. and in the simulation theyv made we are real. so here we are in fact real. 3rd person here tho....

>>684442730
Top kek

>>684452773
Fake and gay

>>684452596
what if i arrange it this way..
spudrui
would it make sense? did i put matter to it to change it?

>>684452770
i mean what atheism got to do with quantum physics..

>>684453039
What are you blabbering on about? You are making yourself look ignorant and embarrassing yourself!

>>684452596
>not physical
huh, this arrangement of atoms seems pretty physical to me.
I am not my atoms, I am the sum aggrigate of my atoms, my memories, my personality, and my preferences. These change from day to day, I am a Ship of Theseus, absolutely. But I am

>>684453039
Please kill yourself.

>>684453413
he said to me U R stupid.. so i rearrange it to prove may point.

Well I may not agree with what you say.

But "we" don't exist in the sense that an individual permanent will is controlling actions and perceptions.

Each moment is a different desire driving your unconscious machine to act completely outside of you're control.

Most of us are asleep and haven't awakened to knowing who they actual are apart from their automation.

And that's the truth brothers.

>>684452457
their motivation is purely to feel smarter than a large group. everything they say is a mimic anyways. they cant learn cus they are pure over compensation and tryhard faggotry.

>>684442367
Literally, it no longer does, apparently.

>>684453379
Just commenting that the previous poster was right. A lot of atheists look at quantum tunneling, multiple states, etc, and just shout that it's magic woo and won't believe that it's real science.

>>684453904
Wut?

>>684453633
You are confusing the mechanism of arrangement with the macro concept of the singleness

>>684444444

fag

>>684452727
lazy grammar maybe..lol and yea generally people who don't have a point talk about people grammar..lmao its so common its laughable.. the fact that people don't see how desperate it is is the sad part.
>not wasting punctuation on btard faggots
>bitter athiests be like

I know I exist in my own thoughts, so in some way I do exist

>>684454082
Depends on your grouping.
An arrangement of fruits, vegetables, cakes, meats, and all other stuff can still be looked at as the "singleness" of a grocery store
Or is OP trying to say that grocery stores don't exist, but rather they are just meaningless arrangements of food-like items?

>>684454220
Well, there was that, but also how nothing of any value was said.

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>>684452930
>bitter athiests who don't know dick about science be like

>>684441894
your definition of existence is wrong. matter energy, information, ideas, even arrangement exist.

>>684443638
Well... Show us the evidence then...