>>684049411
Lower the lights, mah god, That stretching

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>>684049411
hell yeah grow thread i just bought pic related anyone used this before ? I also got cal-mag.

>>684049778
do this OP

>>684049411
Why did you remove a few leafs from the one in the front left?

>>684049411
Put them in a area that will get enough sunlight

>>684050031
That's just vitamin /b/, are your plants showing signs that would indicate a lackthereof?

sorry mate your plants are shit as of right now. lower ur goddamned lights before those bastards keel over n die

>>684050148
Ive heard that trimming the fan leaves off can help it in growing, but maybe it's too young still?

Uk 420 has all the info u need

>>684050323
I just set the light up yesterday, before they were sunbathing in a window, but they weren't getting nearly enough light. Ill lower the light a bit

>>684050352
I wouldn't advise ever doing that again. It's like removing half of the solar panels on your house.

>>684050352
That is when the buds are developing and you are only recommended to cut lower leaves and branches that arent really getting any light or are so small that they will not amount to anything. right now you want as many fan leaves as possible because they are what is collecting whatever little bit of light you are giving them

>>684050313
yeah they got kinda sick on me when i transplanted them. I have one more that needs a transplant and i looked online that this helps the roots get back to a healthy level.

>>684050352
yeah dont do that

>>684050641
I suppose that makes sense lol

>>684050794
I find that the best time to transplant is right after a good watering. Helps reduce the stress.

>>684051046
Sometimes i like to wait until the soil starts to dry when transplanting just in case its not entirely root bound and when the soil is dry it comes out in a cake easier

>>684051046
hmm i did not know that. how long do i wait after watering them to transplant ?

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I lowered the light, and I wrapped it in tinfoil so light is reflecting on them in all directions. Good idea or nah?

>>684051327
>>684051412

>>684051445
Not the greatest setup but its a start and im proud of you for starting a grow. I am a outdoor grower as well.

>>684051327
Well, that's why you're plants look all fucked up, lol - Give them a good water, let the soil drain, and then put your hand on the surface of the dirt, thumb around the base of the plant, just flip it upside down and with the other hand pull the bucket off

>>684051412
>>684051481
If you have good drainage (aka perlite), not long. Just let the soil drain and then transplant 15-30 minutes later.

>>684051673
Lmao those are not my plants, if they were i would be debating if i should throw them out and just start a new batch or not. I would love to be starting my outdoor plants right now but unfortunately i have had bad problems with thieves over the past few years and my only spot to grow is blown. So i gave up on growing for now

>>684051862
cool, im using ocean forest and it has a bit of it.

>>684052109
Lol man, don't talk shit about my babies. I'll keep you guys updated and you'll see how they come along. Just wait.

>>684051644
Awesome! How's the growing season where you're from?

>>684052109
You just said that your plants needed the vitamin b because you fucked em up..
>>684052199
Never heard of it. Should probably add more if you're OP

>>684052314
Hey man my first grow wasnt very good either. experience is key when it comes to this kind of shit and you learn the most from your mistakes

>>684052487
I live in Washington, i already set my plants out so far they're doing pretty good.

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you can literally move the Lights to just about 2 inches above the plants. Do this

>>684052537
that wasnt me man, im not op i just came in here to try to help him out, like i said i wish i could be growing right now but im not growing weed for someone to come steal off my property

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I'd say just throw them outside. I planted a seed of some Nirvana Northern Lights Auto flower... And she's doing great. Only a month and half in, and she's flowering!

>>684049411
Fuck I feel like I know you, is this Bryce?

>>684052774
Ah, my bad.
That's why you put them indoors

>>684052537
im not that anon youre talking to im a completely different anon who mentioned the b52. not op. and you never heard of fox farms ocean forest ?

>>684052891
Ah, I don't care for Fox Farms. I would rather make my own mixtures.

>>684052815
nice how tall is she ?

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Get on my level.

>>684052728
How many do you have? And how often do you need to water/fertilize, etc?

>>684052891
>>684052774
>>684052537
this is why the id tags need to be brought back

>>684053058
>I would rather make my own mixtures.
meh i didnt have the time to do that this year. next year ill be mixing some.

>>684052847
Nope haha nice guess

>>684053170
Potentially, or why they need to legalize it so we can discuss our crops in /out/

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>>684053074
This is from a few days ago... Haven't measured her exact height... Just keep watching her grow up :)

>>684053343
Actually, that's from about a week and a half ago lol.. My bad.

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i only got apples :/

>>684053273
Just perlite, vermiculite, and pete moss. Then you add water soluble nutrients as necessary.

>>684053481
Not bad, what species of apples?

>>684053481
holy fuck i have never seen a tree that small actually produce

>>684053131
got about 7 plants. and i feed them when ever the pots feel light and the soil is dry. usually stick your finger about a inch in and see if its dry then i feed them.

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>>684053113
alright, my plants look like that but only about two feet tall. How do I get them crackin like that?

>>684053481
Thats some good stuff you have there anon

>>684053630 gala apples

>>684053671
Home depot's garden section has trees this size on pots

>>684053630
looks like fujis to me

>>684053802
I might need to run a hose out to the woods lol

>>684054031
nvm

>>684053868
if they are flowering like the ones in that picture than it is to late now. Vegging is when you would want to build the structure of your plant and flowering is when you want to build up the size of your buds

>>684054008
Cool beans
>>684054031
Was my first guess as well, but the red threw me off

Around how much of a nute mix with water should i feed to my 15 gallon pots ?? i overfed them and gave them nute burn. please help

>>684054031
fujis can be small big or medium as well as any other type of apple, or who knows maybe the guy who sold it to me at home depot was wrong and its a fuji lol

>>684054431
possibly lol. i live in Washington so i kinda know my apples.

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So have any of you tried that bud booster stuff? Or the stuff that is supposed to increase thc levels? Does it actually work?

>>684054431
Nope, he has it right, the red gives it away.

>>684054686
not really. i think as long as u have good strains just feed them and keep it simple.

>>684054686
nah man i dont do drugs that's too 90's i eat healthy and fuck bitches

>>684054815
Agreed, just keep the plant healthy and give it plenty of light, and don't over complicate it. You'll stress yourself and the plants out. The plant will tell you what it wants based on the colors of the leafs

>>684054373
anyone ?

>>684055029
I do all 3, it's 2016

>>684054686
Also, you put accidentally put the reflective side of the foil facing the opposite way.

>>684055199
So how many hours a day should I have that light on?

>>684051046
Troll post. It's 100x easier to wait until they are dry so it will all come out together.
And Jesus like everyone else is saying, those are stretched as fuck. All of that energy is being wasted on stretching for the light instead of actually growing. You're honestly better off starting from scratch.

>>684055389
No trust me the shiniest side is facing in all around, other side is not as bright.

>>684055506
16-24 hours

>>684055528
No way I'm starting over, the small ones literally just sprouted 4 days ago

>>684054373
Always start will a little and look for visual signs from the plant that you're doing okay. Never "feed" when the soil is dry. Water the plants a few hours before feeding. Test soil's PH
>>684055506
16-18 hours
>>684055528
You're wack as fuck, kill yourself.
>>684055691
Weird, I'll take your word for it

>>684055944
They're that stretched already? Fuck's sake anon.

>>684055316
is that still a thing? i thought that shit was dead
drugs only waste your time man

>>684055962
i got a ph meter but not for the soil i need to get one

>>684056075
I think I'm fine dude, but thnx anyways.

>>684049411
Feel like I know you. Tyler?

>>684056488
Nope, another good guess

>>684056076
Pretentious fuck

>>684056309
Run water that has a ph of 7 through the dirt, and collect the water from the bottom into a jar and test it.
>>684056394
No problem

>>684055962
so water them and and feed them with the mix ?

>>684055962
Is there a better material for reflecting light in this situation?

>>684056725
whats a normal level for the ph ?

>>684056580
it aint cool no more brah

>>684049411
Checked

>>684055962
Care to elaborate how I am wack?

>>684056841
Mylar. Buy a tiny grow tent... It's like $60.

>>684056919
Oh fuck off faggot

>>684056897
Of the soil? There is no normal, there only is. Each plant prefers different ph levels. Most cannabis thrives in 5.5 to 7 ph, it will vary.
>>684056841
Mirrors if you have money.

>>684056564
First name?

>>684057067
No, I have to go to a birthday party, some other time.

>>684057363
You don't know me. Lol

>>684057626
I bet I might.

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>>684049411
buy this book

>>684057318
one more question. i have 15 gallon pots are those ok to use for my whole grow ? i really dont have the time to plant them in the ground or get bigger pots.

How much to you water your plants ? until it seeps through the bottom or what

>>684057690
Rhymes with Sean

>>684049411
David ?

>>684057233
I might look for some mylar sheeting. I thought of it but didn't know the name so thanks

>>684058232
No problem :)

motherfucking bump

I'm skipping all previous discussion. So I'll try to make this as concise as possible. First off, go into this assuming that at least half your plants will not make it. Out of 16 you'll probably have 6-10 that reach maturity. Of those, you've got a further 50-50 of them being male. Genetics can't be helped (unless you've bought feminized seeds, then disregard that). Your males will probably need to be disposed of unless you're trying to breed, which I doubt.

Now, the LED is great for getting started, but I don't think growing outdoors in Minnesota is wise. You really need to get a 300 watt HPS (high pressure sodium) bulb and ballast. Get one with reflectors, these bulbs are massive. When you see the vegetative state really start to take off is when you need to make the switch. Otherwise you risk stunting your growth.

Now, there's a lot of hullabaloo about hydroponics, and it's cool, but for your first time all you really need is some soil, pots, and plant food. Make sure you give each plant a big enough space to be in full development by the time it's root bound, otherwise stunting can come into play again. Elsewise, simply work on a 12-12 system of lights on/lights off and give your plant enough water throughout the day to ensure the soil is moist throughout, and add plant food every 7-14 days (I use miracle-gro granules every 7 days at a ratio of 1 tablespoon to gallon of water and just continue until the jug/canister is empty).

I can't assure that you'll get mad dank buds the first time, but you'll get a feel for the basics and that's really what you need to be concerned with your first time. Hope this helps.

>>684058852
To be clear, when I say keep your plants moist throughout the day, I refer to the period of lights on. If you keep your soil moist 24/7 you'll get root rot fast.

>>684057774
Good call.

>>684059450
Not on the buy part though. This is 2016, remember that. Find that shit on Google real quick.

>>684058852
Thanks for all that man. The 5 Sativa's Sour Diesel are fem, so I'm banking on them to be my best shot at a good crop. So out of the 11 randoms half are hopefully females. I can't continue the grow indoors, as I don't have enough space to grow multiple inside. I'm hoping that if I plant them at the right time, they will have 3 full summer months to achieve maturity, and its an open area so sunlight shouldn't be an issue.

>>684049411
That's a lot of stretching haha
One solution could be tying down the stalks so it bends sideways and bring your lights in real close. It will trigger epicormic shoots, especially on that one that you chopped the leaves off of for whatever reason (technically stress does sort of cause more growth, but only in the sense that it triggers regrowth. So it grows back what it lost only, and it's a net loss in energy)

Anyone use fluorescent tubes? Fluorescent vs led?

>>684060026
Yeah, the bigger 2 were deprived of sunlight for a little. Epicormic shoots? Care to elaborate?

whats that thing called where you trim a bit of a branch and it splits into two branches? did it on my last plants but i forget what its called and exactly where to cut

>>684060603
It's dormant node cells that get triggered upon stress. I believe they haven't quite figured out the exact science as to how they work, but plants have a limited quantity of them and it's triggered by stress. Pruning, fires, wind damage, etc. all trigger epicormic shoots that form from the center outward of any branch.
Usually it occurs at an already existing node that has been pruned (usually one on each side of the old node for most plants)

It's a regrowth mechanism plants have, but it's kind of finicky. It's usually something you see on trees, but it works with marijuana as well. Actually some people have little bonzai trees of pot plants for that very reason.
When I worked on a tree farm we could propagate trees by chopping large sections of another tree off and burning them with a propane torch or simply beating the shit out of it with a wooden plank and it would trigger root growth and new shoots right out of the center of the branch.

>>684061969
You cut about 1 inch away from the node (where it splits off)

>>684064353
whats it called breh?