he's kind of a faggot. not gonna lie.

Hehe... Gnome

>>683991226
Been a huge fan for many years.

>libertarian
>socialism
pick one

>>683991936
maybe you should educate yourself a little

Evil sumbitch.

Hard ore commie. Authoritarian as fuck. And he has the audacity to call himself libertarian. Gigantic joke

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>>683991226
you mean anarcho-autism?

Chomsky is a homie. If you can get over his monotonous voice, his speeches and lectures on most topics are gold.

>>683991936
found the retard

>>683993272
how does 'god is not great' have anything to do with libertarian socialism?

christopher hitchens was a neo-con and a faggot

>>683992370
>>683993631
Maybe you guys should educate yourself.

Chomsky never grew up. His ideas all lead back to his desire for everyone to take care of him.

>>683993820
Hitchens was right.

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>>683991226
living.
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For some reason I don't imagine the average /b/ tard is really capable of understanding academic writings.

Interesting ideas, but like any socio-politico idealist, most of his arguments are cherry picked.

He's not wrong about everything, but many of his ideas would never work right in practice.

>>683993938
yeah dude, endless war in the middle east has done nothing but spread peace and democratic values.

i bet you wish you could suck paul wolfowitz's dick just like hitchens

go post on /r/atheism you fedora tipping autist

>>683993938
No, hitchins was a right-wing asshole. Good riddance.

>>683993631
i'm a feminist MRA christian atheist marxist capitalist. It's not a contradiction because I changed their meanings.

>>683992528
He's a right bastard who thinks the west should drop their trousers and take a good fucking from their government and muslims. He also believes Palestinians should have Israel. That's retarded. The people that kill homos and take their religion seriously. How can that be a good idea?

>>683991226
jew/10
commie/10
conspirative nut/10

>>683994342
how the fuck was Hitchens right wing?

>>683994326
Please don't compare autists to this useless heap of excrements.

>>683994326
how do you propose peace and democratic values should be implemented in those countries then?

>>683994500
Uneducated and ignorant as fuck

>>683994498
anything's better than filthy kikes

>>683994498
So the apartheidism of Israel with their constant holocaust card is the right way to go? Israelis are the scum of the earth. The constant meddling of the west in middle east is the cause of war and the migrant wave, fucking fox news following Amerifat bastard

>>683994881
I'm an American and I support this post.

>>683994498
Exactly. He's a commie who believe that the west is the source of all evil, when the opposite is true. The west should be boldly and firmly proud of its achievements.

Socialists believe that the poorer you are, the more moral you are and therefore side with the less well off at every instance. This is exactly false.

>>683994865
say what you will about jews but at least they aren't inbred like 55% of mudslimes

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Libertarian Socialism is an oxymoron. While some of his works are OK, he's like the left's version of Ayn Rand. Both of them are ridiculously idealistic and have no place in reality.

>>683991226
He had some good thoughts 30 years ago. Now he's just a withered old crackpot who loses a little more credibility each time he opens his stupid crackpot mouth.

>>683995416
libertarianism was coined by a socialist you fucking idiot

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>>683995710
That means jack shit.

>>683995710

Who coined it then? Wikipedia says different. A whig supporter and supporter of the american revolution

>>683995416
read about the Spanish Revolution.

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>>683991226
The quote shouldn't seem so flattering. What did the "Enlightenment" era give us but a few dozen empirically false theories of history and an undying myth of Progress that has held the attention of doe-eyed liberals for the past 100 some odd years? The ideals of the Enlightenment were an important step out of the Dark Ages, but still just one fucking step, and they shouldn't be dwelt upon anymore than the feudalistic ideas towhich they are the heirs.

Chomsky is a puss, just look at his debates with Foucault if you wish to witness some real nigga shit.

TL;DR Suck a dicker

>>683995710
That doesn't mean they are the same thing. How fucking dumb do you have to be to think that what you wrote actually comprised some sort of point?

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>>683994090
not everyone here is a retarded faggot, you fucking retarded faggot.

>>683991226
you mean GNOME Chomsky right? the easter egg from left 4 dead right?

>>683991226

>Noam Chomsky

Reddit-tier garbage

I recently watched a documentary about/from him on Netflix.
Seemed to share a lot of opinions.

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>>683991226
What books of his have you read OP?

Ugh.

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Libertarian didn't used to mean what it does in America now. From wikipedia:

Although the word libertarian continues to be widely used to refer to socialists internationally, its meaning in the United States has deviated from its political origins.[26][27] Libertarianism in the United States has been described as conservative on economic issues and liberal on personal freedom[28]

It is only lately, and only in America, that libertarianism has taken on the meaning of pro-capitalist liberalism, versus anti-capitalist egalitarianism.

Capitalism is in itself an oppressive system, and can not harbor truly free people.

A real 1st class faggot.

His predictions and analysis of world affairs has been wrong so many times his name is synonymous with "clown"..

When Venezuela overthrows Gordo Maduro Noam will have a 0/25 record..

>>683998820
tell that to China. the rise of capitalism has increased their GDP and brought many people out of poverty

Noam Chomsky is literally pants on head fucking retarded.

He is masturbation material for the retards in the liberal arts who can kind of tell the game that everyone is playing, and think that they can just repeat things condescendingly to win arguments.

Go read his back and forth with Sam Harris. If you come out thinking Chomsky made any sense at all, congratulations, you're a potato.

>>683991226
>Noam Chomsky
Traitor to his country. Should have been in prison long ago.

>>683999727
"Chomsky DESTROYED Harris in those emails. What do you mean you want me to elaborate on that?!" - every Chomsky fantard ever

>>683991226
World class blowhard. Has a degree in linguistics, and thinks that this makes him an expert on politics and economics. When he actually knows less about economics than an economics undergrad. His skill is twisting words, and only fools people who are not very smart.

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>>683999346
I do have a fairly good understanding of capitalism, I live in a capitalist country. I don't doubt that's true, and I definitely don't advocate for Chinas communist dictatorship. I don't really think it's fair to always point to those failed states and say that Capitalism is the right side of a two sided coin. Communism can exist in more forms then a dictatorship, it just never really has on any large scale

>>683998820
Economic freedom is a freedom.

And a free market is not the same thing as capitalism. They can in fact be in conflict (as they are in the US right now).

>>684000380
In what country right now is communism a success?

>>684000380
Well that's because it's shit on a large scale.

Small, stable communities with high trust can practice collectivism without (much) coercion. Stretch it out to a command economy for a whole nation state and things start to come off the rails.

>>684000480
Alright, I don't really know anything about this. Am I wrong that most people who advocate for the 'free market' of american libertarianism are capitalist? what does that free market look like without capitalism? Is it anarchism?

>>684000739
I'm fairly sure I said there isn't any examples of that

>>683991226
He understands the corruption of government.

>>684000897
I should mention that I identify, or at least advocate for anarchism, so states aren't really things that I think should exist,either. not in a legally binding way at least.

>>683991226
I'm a computer scientist working on compilers, so I respect him for his research in formal language theory.

Other than that, he's fucking ancom.

>>684001133
you didn't say that. you said communism can exist other than through dictatorship.

>>683995243
>The west should be boldly and firmly proud of its achievements.

These achievements are today just the dust with which the establishment blinds morons like you. Our democracies are rigged.

>but keep up your good pride, anon

If the right-wing doesn't like him,

Noam Chomsky must be good.

>>684000940
I don't have the wherewithal to give you a full primer. Watch some Milton Friedman lectures or something.

What I meant is that the system we have now, where corporations are treated by the law as legal persons (with the right to free speech and so forth) but are not held to the same standard of liability as a person, are a load of horse shit.

That is not a, and corporate charters have existed in less permissive forms.

A free market just means that I can take something I make and charge whatever I want for it. If you restrict that behavior, or oblige me to give that thing away for free, you're infringing on a right that's almost as fundamental as the right to free speech.

It requires an element of coercion, because the market isn't free if I'm allowed to just run around with a machine gun robbing people, or suck up all the water and sell it for $100 a gallon. Nor is it a free market if I pay my buddies in gov't to make laws to lock out competitors, or to arrest people who don't buy my product.

>>684002517
I meant to say
>the way corporate law is structured is not a fundamental characteristic of a free market

>>684001956
So I presume you're a fan of Joseph Stalin and Pol Pot as well?

>>683993482
The monotone voice I always felt was just a great deadpan delivery - a mix of sarcasm and utter contempt.

Chomsky is awesome, and has been awesome for decades. The world owes him a great debt.

>>684002517
>charge whatever I want for it
I think there is the point that we are mostly disagreeing on. Also I think we should keep discussion of 'fundamental rights' out of this, because both the left and the right will use that phrase and attach it wherever they feel necessary

Back to my initial point, the charging people. I think we're seeing the flip side of the same coin, where, I understand that 'obliging', if you mean forcing, you to give something away for free may seem unethical, but don't you think that having an excess of any material (property, food, ect), and NOT choosing to share it with someone with less then they need is perhaps more unethical?

>>684001576
referring back to the original post,
>>684000380
>it just never really has on any large scale
If that wasn't clear, this was me stating that right now, communism is not successful in any countries.

>>683994504
He was a huge supporter of the iraq war, and all the imperial trappings attendant thereupon, he was an open admirer of thatcher etc.

http://www.mrdestructo.com/2011/12/burn-in-hell-christopher-hitchens.html

>>683994718
Who gives a shit. Fuck 'em. Let 'em rot.

>>684004722
>implying only the right wing supports the iraq war and thatcher

>>684001133
Dont bother man, reading comprehension isnt a strong suit with these people.

>>Muh Austrian School

etc.

>>684005017
yes i was doing that. How remarkably observant of you to hit the main point of what I was saying. Nothing gets past you it seems.