>>683760217
That test is bullshit. It put Obama right wing. I'd accurately be very slightly to the left, and at the very bottom.

>>683761226
obama is moderate

>>683761226
because Obama is right wing

>>683761226
For the rest of the world, Obama is right wing,

>>683761988
Hey I got that too nice work anon.

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>>683761226
Okay, in the Amercian system, he's centrist.
In a world system, he's certainly right of center.

I study politics and economics at a very respectable university and i've taken this test 5 times over my time as student.

When I came into it (before learning of political science), I was very right-wing, and socially libertarian.

The left-right scale refers to economic inequality and this changed rapidly for me as I learned more of "trickle-down" economics (right-wing fallacy that wealth trickles down to the poor if you give to the rich).
Very quickly after learning about economic inequality (62 people own as much wealth as 3.5 billion people), I became left-wing as fuck, as the economics (and academic economists also) is very clear; up to a limit, helping the poor helps everyone (healthy/educated/productive workers produce better).

It took me a while to overcome the authoritarian sides of myself, especially with the UK's very right wing media (worst besides US).

I should note that I never intended to be left-wing. I was entirely hostile to those who break the NAP and anyone who wanted to re-distribute.

After 3 years of education and research on the critically important subjects for this, I can clearly state (from my and academic political opinion) that the political compass test although ultimately subjective, is like an actual test with real answers.

On the left-right scale, I got 9/10 on left side, and 9/10 on social libertarianism. I didn't answer 10/10 on them all as right-wing poltiics isn't entirely false, just almost the antithesis of the truth.

TLDR: Left-wing politics and particularly economics are the most efficient use of resources for the majority of the population (the supposed leaders of our democracy).

Right-wing politics is pushed by two types of people:
1) Traditionalists who believe that the state should legilslate on liberal moral issues (womens rights etc) This is mainly republicans.
2) Rich shills; democrats.

>>683761988
Well done, anon. Your education is serving you well.

Unless you're confused about who represents your interests, only the blue (pre-dominantly) and green are generally represented in politics. Probably because the internal contradictions of purple and red are too large to hold in extreme measures (unless directly following dogma).

The only realistic answers (coming from someone who was blue, purple and green and who sympathises with the red) that aren't contradictory are blue and green.

The blues are the establishment and mainstrema media and most American politicians.
The greens are social democrats and scandanavians generally and these are the countries with the highest GDP, lowest inequality, highest HDI and most productive workers.

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How can some of you guys be that left? The one guy seems more peacful and communistic then a mix of Ghandi and Stalin.

>>683760217
bump because you americans are getting cucked by the rich, and not even you deserve it.

Imagine an American soldier in Iraq being shot whilst defending the oil interests of political doners. Nobody deserves that, not the Iraqi, not the American kid, not the American people's money for something that does not help them.

>>683763233
Get rich and live without problems, or Gtfo

>>683763233
>How can some of you guys be that left?

The economic literature is pretty conclusive. Income and wealth inequality both intra-nation and world-scale are reducing our growth rates and standards of living because the rich take a too large slice of the cake.

By improving infrastructure, employment opportunities, social programs like health and education we improve the capabilities of a nation to produce goods. This raises national income and everyone is richer if we tax the rich.

In the 1950-1980's the American rate of tax was ~70% and it was the most prosperous time in their history. As time went on taxes went down (political corruption) and the economy tanked.

> The one guy seems more peacful and communistic then a mix of Ghandi and Stalin.

Wat. Ghandi is the definition of green almost. Stalin of the red.

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Surprised I'm not more to the left, actually. First time since I first heard about the site that I didn't land in the green left-libertarian sector.

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100% non-facist/Authoritarian here!

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>>683761988
I'm surprised people don't end up here like us.

What fucking questions. State involved with sexlife, rich not deserving taxes or if companies feel any kind of responsibility for environment.

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>>683760217
>legalise cannabis
>make money

>>683764493
You'd have to be a fool (although that puts me in it, but I'll accept that I was a fool) or listening to a lot of mainstream media to not appear in the green.

>>683762512
im just gonna reply because you wrote all that shit smelly liberal

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Kinda surprised

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>NEETs wanting free stuff
my my what a surprise

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>>683760217
Got this a while back

>>683764898
yeah cheers mate. Enjoy blaming the immigrants, the poor, the jobseeker for taking all of your wealth whilst you defend a Trump-esque figure. Certainly no cognitive dissonance with that one.

>>683765077
"I'm going to pretend to be an anarchist (although not being able to define it) because I like anarchism [nothing wrong] but can't admit that I prop up the largest hierarchical institutions : corporations."

"Statism is the state's largest injustice... including war."

Not understanding that social libertarianism is antagonistic towards right-wing economics.

I hope you understand (unless you're voting the true social libertarian, Sanders) that you're generally gonna be supporting those in the blue section politically unless you take the leap into learning economics, then you'll turn to the green side, my friend.

This test is extremely generous and usually leans towards giving everyone left libertarian. If you get anything other than left libertarian you're a fucking lunatic, seriously

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>>683760217

I got the only sensible result.

>>683765727
>If you get anything other than left libertarian you're a fucking lunatic, seriously

You're not describing the test, you're describing life in general.

>>683766223
But it's especially true for this test

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corporate cucks

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>>683765481
>commukeks
Do you really believe I haven't heard all that before? It takes a special kind of arrogance to constantly assume you're right and that no one else has ever read up on anything. I've gone through countless debates and discussions (though the latter is rare) and the common thread though out those debates is an unwillingness from communists to listen to the other side and rather just go on name calling and so on. Admittedly some ancaps/minarchists/what have you do the same, but from experience the lefties are quite over represented. Though I guess that shouldn't come as a surprise, as we're seeing the same kind of behavior from other people on the left, like SJW.

>>683766223
>>683766572

As someone who is left-libertarian, the test is certainly in our favour, although as you alluded to, so is life generally.

I've been in hundreds of classes and only in say, 20 of them has someone attempted to give right-wing views on the topic at hand and generally it's a fair point to make but it always gets shot down.

>>683766906

Calm down, Reza. No one cares how many classes you've attended.

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Not surprised at all to be honest.

>>683765952
yeah ok wall ace

>>683766785

I heard a lot of whining in your post but not any counter arguments.

>>683766731
poorfag basement dweller

>>683766716
>National Socialism is the oposite of fascism
Kek

>>683767706
Are you me?:>>683767224

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This test is very innaccurate, I consider myself to be a communist and I scored this

>>683767350
What on earth makes you think we're having a debate?

If you're interested in why we think the way we do then there is plenty of material for you to read. You really ought to have a proper understanding of both sides before you actually start having a debate.

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H8 me idgaf

>>683765952
>Communism
>A stateless, moneyless, classless society isn´t free
The fuck anon

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Tfw nobody but you wants true anarchy

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Some of these questions are so ambiguous.

>>683768304
The only true freedom is in full on anarchy tbh

>>683768304
>A stateless, moneyless, classless society isn´t free
How is not having property rights and free association a free society? I genuinely puzzles me how you people think. How is voluntarily trading my time working in return for X slavery or exploitation? (even if I know he is going to make more from it than he gives me in return)

>>683767982
Why google what I already know? I was pressing you to support your position in your own words with your own reasoning, which you appear to be completely unable to do.

>>683768555
>Implying anarchy isn´t a stateless, moneyless, classless society just like communism

>>683768588
anarchy is interchangable with violence free (explicitly physical force crossing self ownership as axiomatic property rights of ones body, mind, labor etc) within the circle that is society, anything that crosses that line in the sand is not society, community, state etc

example this schizophrenic from department of defence blasting my body on a daily basis through use of "government" technology & infrastructure from australian department of defence is not "lega" its a "criminal", and in such, forfeits citizenry status and its right to its own self determination and respect of a violence free life for it and anything that enabled it, because of its causative breakdown in dispute resolution and resortment to force in the first place.

define retarded

>>683768588
>If I am not able to make money out of other peoples´ work, a society isn´t free

>>683768304
Who would enforce it, retard?

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>>683767874
You all should be lined up and shot out of principle.

>>683768492

>papafriedman

You know Friedman supported no-strings-attached welfare right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_income_tax

>>683768629
The reasons for not debating you is because I've been there before and it's a waste of time, particularly in an environment like this. To from this assume that I cannot defend my position is a leap of logic that is not supported by what I've said, it's an (arrogant) assumption and nothing else.

>Why google what I already know?
Since you're so eager, why don't you tell me what it is you already know?

>>683768945
I didn't know Kim Jong Un browses /b/

>>683768910
The material conditions that allow for a state to exist (Such as classes) should dissapear with socialism.
Once those conditions are out of the way, the state is simply not necessary and it will slowly dissapear.

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>>683760217

A lot of Shillary Cuntham supporters today

>>683769171
Who for example?

>>683767874
That is communism - Libertarian communism / Anarcho communism.

>>683765952
Basically

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apparently i would have liked ghandi since he was in the same area

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>>683768987
>being this triggered by someone holding different opinions

This is what happens when you soft cunts leave your safe spaces.

>>683769313
Make up your mind you centertist cuck

>>683769313 perfect faggot

>>683768868
What I'm saying is that if you're not able exert ownership of your own body (which includes time), then no it's not an entirely free society. If I'm not allowed to use my body as I see fit (to for instance trade my labor for money or what have you) then by extension I don't fully own my own body.

>>683769321
I won´t allow white people to treat me like I´m black- Mahatma Ghandi.

Ayyyy

think of state as the silver lining million foot indestructible impenetrable wall that surrounds the garden of anarchism, that is its point, that is its purpose

weeds=pruned (cull, genocide, gene targetting, societal structuring, ordering, "manipulating" etc etc)
cannabis=legalised
illegal laws = oxymoronic

>>683769313
>chart[1].png
>[1]
Yeah sure.

>>683769067
You're not providing any evidence or reason to take your position or support your argument (Communists do not listen to the other side) In fact since myself and the other Anon, have just asked for your argument or position, we have both proved you wrong. It is you who is unwilling to have a discussion.

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>>683768337
>he actually believes that humans are even capable of "true" anarchy

>>683760217
The question that asks is people should not be allowed to reproduce if they have inherited disabilities is disagreeable with if in vitro fertilization can eliminate the deficient gene, correct?

>>683769114
If classes were to disappear and everybody got the same wage then why would anyone take on the responsibility of running a company and organizing people, communism has been tried before, it failed

>>683769606
>It is you who is unwilling to have a discussion.
No shit, I said so in the very beginning. In traditional communist spirit you're twisting my words to mean something they don't. So let my clarify, when I say that communists (and I know that's a generalizing statement) don't want to listen I don't take that to mean that they don't want to have discussions. It means that WHILE THEY'RE IN A DISCUSSION they don't listen, but rather just go on and on. If anything you're proving my point right here.

>>683769426
The thing is, that you are not forced to work.
You can do whatever the fuck you want.
If you want a job, you´ll sure as hell have one.

Oh, btw, if you depend on the money you get from selling your labor, you´re a slave.

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>>683769842
>he actually believes weebs are capable of intelligent thought

>>683769294
This

>>683769512
Only shows that you don't know how windows stores cached files

>>683768555
Having a social structure doesn't mean you aren't free.
Having a system to make this social structure more efficient and to incorporate more people also doesn't mean you aren't free.
You can always just walk away.
So stop being a finger pointing little twat and stop making other people responsible for you being too much of a pussy to give up all your posessions and go full Walden.

>>683770071
>Oh, btw, if you depend on the money you get from selling your labor, you´re a slave.
How is trading one useful good for another slavery?

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>>683765952
Fascism is in the red square, not blue.

>>683769894
>On communism everybody gets the same wage.


Oh for fucks sake.
Is this what they teach you on school nowadays?

There are wage differencess on socialist states.Or in communist societies.
The thing that determines class isn´t wage, it´s your relation with the means of production.

>>683770146
Nah I know you just changed the link so you can reposition the red dot, saved it but you already had your real one saved so it automatically named it chart[1].png

>>683770152
>You can always just walk away.
What? To the next forceful and violent society? If you haven't noticed there isn't a whole lot of unclaimed territory left on earth. Even the oceans are sort of semi-ruled. I why should it have to be I that have to leave? Why not you? Why can't we live together and you just leave me alone?

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Huh. I'm about as moderate as I thought.

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>>683770327
So syndicalism? Make up your fucking mind then, I don't know what YOU mean by the class system

>>683769943
>They don't listen, they just go on and on
It sounds like when you were in a debate with a communist, you weren't listening to what they were saying. You sound like a bored kid in a classroom - they might have been refuting your points, but if you didn't listen to what they were trying to say, or thought it was useless to, then it was you who wasn't listening. You're clearly prejudiced towards the left wing so I doubt you considered what they were saying was important, or branded it propaganda before you even tried to interpret or read it.

>>683770168
Because you depend on the person who gives you that money.

That person, makes money off of your work.

You´re not selling an useful good, you are giving it away in exchange for something that worth less. (Your salary)

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Whelp, seems I'm more liberal than Gandhi

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>>683770458
The marxist definition of classes, what the fuck mate.

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i don't even know anymore

>>683770559
That is*

>>683770168
Money exists to make trading labor for goods more easy. Instead of creating one good and attempting to trade it with everyone (who may or may not need your good, while you need theirs) or trying to work for every producer of goods you need.

>>683770362
It's called being a Bum, you retard. Just sell everything you have for cash, move to the next wilderness, pay for building material, a rifle and some essentials, build a hut in the middle of nowhere and do your thing. Nobody will ever bother you and if you absolutely need something, you can always hike to the nearest village and sell some game.
Shit fam, if you move to the right climate, you don't even need that. Just go full stone age: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA

You are just making excuses for the fact that deep down, you enjoy your comforts just a little too much and are a little consumerist whore, like the rest of us.

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>>683770334
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>>683770559
>Because you depend on the person who gives you that money.
So..are children slaves to their parents then? What about elderly people? Your definition of slavery is too broad.

>That person, makes money off of your work.
Yes, and in this example I voluntarily agreed to this knowing this well in advance.

>You´re not selling an useful good
What? How is my labor not useful? You have to elaborate on this, because to me it would seem that if someone is actually willing to trade something for it then surely it has to be useful by definition?

>you are giving it away in exchange for something that worth less
By definition it's worth more to me than my labor, otherwise I wouldn't be willing to make that trade. This falls on its own absurdity. Worth is not an inherent quality of anything, a glass of water could be worth hundreds of dollars in the desert but pretty much nothing if you live by a fresh water lake.

>>683770658
Ok fine, we've made everybody a proletariat, in your proposed world, would businesses be run by the workers then?

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I'm hard but I'm fair.

>>683770805
So you're telling me that it's fair that I should have to become homeless and have to live on the periphery of society just because you can't leave me the fuck alone?

>>683770559
Coming together to produce something, getting a portion of the profits and then using that profit to buy other products and labor is not slavery, you moron.
You gripe is with the distribution of said profits. If we'd be trading with rice, the same issue would exist.
One of the simpler solutions is a democratically determined distribution of profits within a firm. It has been done successfully before.

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>>683770603
Anarcho capitalism would turn into extreme coorporate feudalism very quick. You can't trust for profit organisations with every aspect of human life, and still expect to be free.

PS - This guy is a cult leader.

>>683770998
In communism yes, in socialism, by the worker´s government.
And we don´t turn everybody into a proletariat, having no classes doesn´t mean having a single class.
>>683770957
No sir, it is by definition, less than what your work is worth. Profits ´n shit.

Being dependent because of physical (Is that how you say it?) conditions isn´t slavery, obviously.

"Marx inherited the labour theory of value from the classical school. Here the continuity is even more pronounced; but there is also a radical break, For Ricardo, labour is essentially a numeraire, which enables a common computation of labour and capital as basic elements of production costs. For Marx, labour is value. Value is nothing but that fragment of the total labour potential existing in a given society in a certain period (e.g. a year or a month) which is used for the output of a given commodity, at the average social productivity of labour existing then and there, divided by the total number of these commodities produced. and expressed in hours (or minutes), days, weeks, months of labour.

Value is therefore essentially a social, objective and historically relative category, It is social because it is determined by the overall result of the fluctuating efforts of each individual producer (under capitalism: of each individual firm or factory). It is objective because it is given, once the production of a given commodity is finished, and is thus independent from personal (or collective) valuations of customers on the market place; and it is historically relative because it changes with each important change (progress or regression) of the average productivity of labour in a given branch of output, including in agriculture and transportation."

>>683771138
Then bring some other hobos and make a commune. But let's see how well that works.

Again, you are just being a self-entitled bitch about it. You can't reep the benefits of society while taking on no responsibilities. That isn't how it works.

Has your education failed you? Ever heard of Rousseau?

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I don't mean to brag. But my dot fell pretty fucking close to Ghandi

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>>683771423
Gotta leave now, I enjoyed this debate.

I´ll come back later to read your answer if the thread is still alive.

>>683771503
>Ever heard of Rousseau?
Yes, and the social contract is bunch of baloney.

>>683771503
Communism doesn't work by just smashing a bunch of homeless people together. Right now, society is so divided that social conflicts drive people apart. It takes a long time of societal evolution before every person holds a singular moral code, that allow for the total union and harmony required for communism to function.

>>683761384
chingchong pingpong maozedong

>>683771423
Marx value theory is completely wrong though. Value is subjective. You can't put a number on how much doing X versus doing Y increase or decrease my happiness or satisfaction and depending on preferences you might prefer Y where I prefer X and therefore you'd be willing to pay more for it. Additionally, what it costs to produce something isn't necessarily what it's worth to me.

this thread is filled with NEETS who just want some of their governments money and don't want anybody criticising them for it

>>683772686
Feel free to critisise me for wanting a government that supports my interests. Thing is, Socialists want to support their government as well, along with every other member of society, assuming it is socialist.

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you guys are a bunch of fucking fascists.

>>683770603
>I don't want to pay my taxes, wah wah
>I do want you to pay your taxes, supporting this system
>you want me to be shot then, do you want me SHOT?

>>683773413
You're right. I don't want to be violently extorted out of the sweat my brow. How very unreasonable of me, no?

>>683771749
We are talking about anarchy.
>>683771605
Great argument, faggot.
All it says is that you either take part in a society or you do not.

Saying that having some form of system in place to make cooperation easier is by definition "unfree" is beloney.
There are myriad of ways one may construct such a system. Saying that because democracy, communism and capitalism (and everything inbetween) are not to your liking, anarchy is the only logical conclusion is just retarded as fuck.

Heck, even modern anarchists don't reject notions of societal regulations.
Stop being a faggot. Stay a comfortable little snowflake, nope the fuck out of society or make an effort to change the things that actually bother you about the way things are being handled today.
Also stop being so self-entitled. If you honestly think that labor is the worst thing that can happen to you, you might want to pay closer attention to what is happening in many 3. World countries. If anything, trying to make a change there would give you larger opportunity to move them in a direction which more closely resembles what you wish for society.

But you will probably do none of that. You will keep being a snowflake on the internet, telling yourself that bitching about things somehow relieves you from real and active moral obligations.

>>683773802
>Saying that having some form of system in place to make cooperation easier is by definition "unfree"
Yes I agree and I never said that. My criticism is directed solely towards such societies that are not voluntary in nature. Being an anarchist doesn't mean you live in the forest and eat roots and nuts. I mean I guess anarcho-primitivsts sort of are, but they're weirdos.

>>683773602
With a gradual tax system you're not the one losing shekels, it's the very rich, you're getting more, but I know you're too thickheaded to get it.

>>683774306
>but I know you're too thickheaded to get it
So why would you tell me if you genuinely think I'm too stupid to understand it. Does that seem rather..dumb?

Look, to it's not about getting more or fucking the rich. It's about what's fair and having a consistent moral framework that plays a part in all my opinions. I might not like a certain thing, but will not vote to make it illegal purely out of principle. I don't think drugs are good and I don't think people should do them, but I'm for a full legalization of ALL drugs, out of the principle that i have no right to tell people how to live their lives.

>>683774531
>all drugs

Heroine? Crack? Krokodil?

>>683774699
All of them. I can't stop people from hurting themselves even though it pains me to see it.

>>683774746
And that's what libertarians don't and will never get. Principles are good as long as they serve the people, otherwise they're fucking garbage

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How did I do?

>>683773602
You're not being extorted - you're paying for services that you and every other member of the country require to have a suitable quality of life. You're paying for security, healthcare and infrastructure. If you leave those services to private companies, they'll only find ways to lower the quality of those services to increase their profit margains.

>>683774064
But they are. That the benefits of modern societies are a good reason to take part in them, does not mean you have to.

But hey. There are also a couple "utopian" societies out there. Autonomous communes and the like.
The fact that those tend to fail miserably and devolve either into cults or quite literally oppressive groups might give you a hint as to how well society is actually doing compared to the past.

And my point still stands: Wanting to scrap imperfect systems instead of building upon them is a foolish way to do things.
i.e.: We are quickly moving to a point where it simply isn't necessary for every person to work. How would you adjust society to that?
>pro-tip: if you say socialism/communism you failed the test

ITT: lazy berniecucks

>>683774902
It's not a principle if you can just willy nilly pick and choose when to apply it.

>>683774929
I didn't ask for any of it, that's the problem. And when you're born into it then it's virtually impossible to not use it, you're pretty much a prisoner until such times that you have the economical means to get out there.

>>683774929
Dat logical fallacy

>>683760217
A graph on cuckery

>>683775195
So... people<principles?

I remember the test my dot was exacly where Ghandis is. Ill see him in hell i guess

>>683775195
There are anarchist utopias out there - like somalia for example. If you don't want to be a part of a society that requires your support, go live somewhere like that.

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>>683760217

>>683775547
Absolutely, all day every day

>>683774929
Payment on labor done for no profit is...........
SLAVERY

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Hmm i usually scored further toward libertarian on these. This test sucks

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MAGA

>>683775547
As I said, if someone wants to harm themselves then I can't stop them (of course you could argue in certain situations where they're trying to commit suicide but let's leave those out of the discussion for now). It's not because I value my principles more than people, it's because I value people enough to respect their exclusive right to their own bodies.

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>>683775899
>my idea about what principles are best for the people is more important than people
You dun goofed, m8.

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>>683775821
>le somalia meme

>>683775307
Care to explain?

>>683775946
If you think you're a slave for contributing towards something cruicial for your benefit, exchanging money to live in a functioning society, you're a moron.

a lot more lefties than i thought, couldn't be happier

>>683776036
Here you demonstrate your ignorance. Libertarians don't have fundamental principles regarding what's best for people, their principles logical deductions from the assumption that everyone have an exclusive right to themselves.

"I like chocolate" is not a principle, it's preference and so is "people shouldn't do drugs" and "healthcare is a human right".

>>683775946
You sound like a feminist who thinks bikini models are just as bad an oppression as female circumcisions in Africa.

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>>683776309
forgot image

>>683776309
Are you this new? Virtually all boards consistently lean towards the left.

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>>683760217
registered Green here (US)

>>683776392
Not really. I've been on dozens of boards blasting berniecucks with a few lefties flooding us with a river of tears

>>683776309
I think when you break it down into easy questions like this, most people realise they have left leanings.

>>683776588
That's because all lefties aren't necessarily partial to Bernie. And just because you are partial to a certain candidate doesn't mean that you agree with them on all issues.

>>683776329
Stop makin excuses. For one there is no way in hell that you actually believe in a system without some form of ground-rules.
Second you already stated that your "principles" are more important than people and by definition would enforce them in spite of the people.

What if the people want an authoritarian and racist society, hell bent eiminating all others?
Would you force them not to do that or would you let them have their way?

Libertarian master race reporting in.

>>683776977
>Would you force them not to do that or would you let them have their way?
It's clear you're not familiar with the NAP. It would do you good to read up a little and spare me a lot of needless explaining while your throw insults at.

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>>683760217

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Expected it

>>683777170
Dude, your ideology´s name is an oxymoron.

I can´t take ancaps seriously.

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I AM FUCKING GANDHI

>>683762512

Regurgitated intellectual cowardice.

Blah blah blah - people on the right are racist, misogynist, anti-science, blah blah blah.

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>>683760217

>>683760217
I'm on my phone and don't have the pic saved on it but almost entirely to the left and somewhat in the red.

>>683761384
nihao

>>683766785

Yep, they adore the bouquet of their own flatulence.

Green group reporting in

5.38/-1.39

>>683777309
Democratic Socialism is an oxymoron too, fucktard

>>683777309
Let's think about that statement for a while. You're implicitly saying that you, a twenty something with a layman understanding of politics and economics, is so knowledgeable that you can dismiss an entire school of thought and that all those people (who are probably smarter and more well read than you and me) were just completely wrong because you think the name is an oximoron.

Is this what you actually believe, because to me that sounds like something only a very arrogant and uneducated person would say?

>>683776011
MAGA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgpg7PWhAoI

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More pinkos on this site than I thought.

>>683777790
This is what I got, the perfect sweet spot, just liberal enough to know what's correct, and can call out political correct bullshit.

>>683774929
Daily reminder that taxation is theft

>>683761510
>>683761988
Hes centre right, hes a democrat but he's not liberal.

>>683778237
> inb4 muh roads

>>683778237
It's not stealing if what you get out of it is priceless. Better than keeping your money and letting coorperations fuck you in the ass.

>>683778452
> trusting government over private sector

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Eh

>>683778618
Lol your stance is the guy sitting at his computer that just shrugs and says "meh"

>>683778452
It is though the government are forcing you to give your money to fund stuff wheter or not it's a good idea

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Alrighty

>>683778452

United States Budget in 2015:

$3.1 Trillion in Revenue
$3.6 Trillion in Spending

America does not have a fucking revenue problem...

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>>683778452
>le evil corporation meme
Do you seriously never get tired of this meme?

Can't be bothered to take the test again myself, last time I took it I was pretty much right where this anon is. >>683777790

>>683778831
When Thatcher tried to force Poll tax on the people, and they disagreed, they didn't pay it. Thus, there was no Poll tax. People willingly pay their taxes, because they are worth it. If they weren't they have the choice not to. If you're a whiney Ancap though.. Good luck, because you're in the dumb minority.

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nice

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>>683778601
me too, anon

>>683779035
They don't have people's interests at heart - Neither do corrupt governments, or far right governments. But people choose who runs a country, they don't choose who runs a company. So you're placing the ownership of everything in the hands of Dictators.

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>>683779307

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Pretty moderate

>>683778809
That's true. You outside my window or something?

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>>683779583
I'm arguing that protests against government work, through sheer public support. Good luck though if you're dealing with a union of monopolistic cooperations that control every aspect of your life.

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>>683779035
People seem to think willingly giving your money for a good/service is somehow worse than government holding you at gun point for your money (taxation) and using some of the money to buy you a sub-par service while pocketing the rest.

>>683779646
Yeah, almost done with my fap though so I'll gone shortly

>>683779568
That's not what a dictator is. If lefties would stop redefining words to suit their narrative, that'd real fucking good.

>>683779568
>they don't choose who runs a company

But they do you fucking retard, this is one of the most fundamental principles of capitalism. If no one likes a company or their product/service, then they go out of business and a better one replaces them.

>>683779809
Do you know how many people not paying any tax at all
that would require?

>>683779881
This. It's been proven repeatedly that corporation can do better work than government for less money due to lack of corruption and profits driving efficiency

>>683780050
Yes but you can't do that if there is no alternative. If the government didn't regulate the market do you not think that one or two major coorperations would take over all others?

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>>683779886
Alright. Just clean the cum off of my window when you're done.

>>683780204
No, because at a local level small businesses could push out the big ones due to efficiency, knowledge of local population/government etc

>>683780086
Corporations buy out governments you fucking fag, that's why shit is fucked, if corporations fully obeyed the right laws and paid their fair share of taxes the world would be better, corporations have one thing in mind and that's profit.

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yeah, i got this.

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>>683760217
/britfag/ here, not looking good for me XD

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>>683760217

>>683780546
Good

>>683780416
>Because that's totally what they're doing right now, walmart isn't destroying them at all, no sir.

>>683780204
Overzealous government regulation CAUSES corporatism, not prevent it. Putting in overbearing regulation and insane taxes only hurts small businesses that try to compete with larger markets, corporations and conglomerates indirectly benefit from government intervention because it helps weed out competition rather than facilitating it.

And all that aside, let me lay out the 1 of 2 outcomes without government regulation.

Either A, the company is doing so well and making every so happy that they have deserved their spot as the ruling company in that given business/businesses

Or B, They have left some people dissatisfied and unhappy with their business practices, opening up opportunities for other business owners to step in and profit off of the consumer base that refuses to purchase from business A.

>>683770838
american versions use parenthesis, all euro vers. use brackets?

>>683780707
Wal-Mart is destroying a lot of competition because they are simply better at it. Wal-Mart offers good products and services for very low prices.

Welcome to capitalism 101