post fap depression sucks bro

You are a total faggot.

>>683709724
We're all total faggots in the game of life.

>>683709986
We suck life's dick?

Whoa dude

>>683709047
Yeah I'll probably kill myself too

What's your address, we'll do it together :)

>>683709047
Amen

>>683709604
It fucking does

>>683709047
I know middle school gets hard, but you'll have to pull through.

>>683709047
holy fuck dude, then ill just enjoy the time i have left while not giving a fuck about things i destroy.

And still you blindly hope that is not the harsh truth, like everyone else, but still nothingness is not that bad after all.

Lol.
I know you aren't, being a middle school student and all, but I'm pretty happy with my life.

>>683709047
Even the people who think that nothing matters still soapbox and proclaim it. Spreading the word that nothing matters is a bit of a paradox because if nothing mattered then you wouldn't care to share the knowledge; it wouldn't matter.

>>683709047
Cool man. So when will you kill yourself?

>>683709047
>faggot realises life is just neurons and patterns but doesnt realise that ethics and purpose are also just neurons and patterns.

carnage is irrelevant

>>683709047
Ehhh. It's true enough. But which is worse? Having accepted it, or the fact that everyone who cares about you is still trying to push you towards a meaningful life like there's a point?

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Your philosophy is nothing more than mental masturbation

>>683709047
Ow the edge

>>683709047
I bet 50 bucks that this exact same text is somewhere on reddit

That moment when too bored to care.

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>>683709047
Ok, you can kill yourself now

You won't know the meaning of life until you've been fucked up the ass.

>>683709047
kill yourself then fag

>>683709047
Cheer up little fella.

>>683712603
Then tell us anon, what is the meaning of life?

>>683709047
I create carnage, and carnage created me. Your issue is you don't think everything's okay. But it is.

I think it's funny how people think they somehow own their bodies, you don't own shit, every single last atom in your body will dissolve into the universe through the process of entropy no matter how hard you try to hold on to your life.

Your existence is just a brief flicker on the cosmic timetable, and you don't even own your own mind because every thought, feeling and action you have is pre-determined by physical laws.

You're just a puppet created by natural law.

>>683709047
>all religion and promises of an afterlife is just the neurotic fantasy of petty doomed beings desperately trying justify their meaningless existence.

And it's absolutely tragically beautiful.

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>>683709047
Deal with it

>>683712943
Which bridge is that?

>>683709047
How long did it take you to find this out?

Didn't know I was walking into a roast thread. Where's the creativity, where's the passion. Show Op the real meaning of being a closet baby who brings others down so they can pleasure themselves with their inflated ego.

>>683709047

Consciousness is the fifth dimension. We are fifth dimensional beings. The beings pass away, the dimension remains. So don't worry. That thing about existence we so deeply value, more deeply than all memories and posessions, the capacity for experience and choice, that we intuit as special to us because we only experience it on the individual level, can't go anywhere. Consciousness is as inextricable from the universe, is as mathematical and physical a fact, as time, depth and length.

>>683709047
Oh, I can play the game of baseless assertions too, OP:
>bullshit
There! Now we're even!

>>683709047
So there's no meaning to life outside of our subjective experience of it? That implies that any meaning we ascribe is a product of our evolutionary process, a manifestation of drives and impulses and modes of thought advantageous to our species and constructed with the purpose of perpetuating our genetic legacy. That implies that our continued survival, or at least that of our genes, is important from at least one entirely valid perspective. Our own. Do not attempt to see things from a universal perspective, our brains aren't equipped for it. It is vast, and mostly cold and empty, save for some scattered bits of matter both incandescent and dark, and only in exeedingly rare cases does that matter reshape itself into living beings capable of getting depressed over how vast and empty and uncaring the universe is. Stop feeling sorry that you can't comprehend infinite and feel blessed that you are part of a statistically negligable minority of matter capable of thinking at all.

>>683709047
And whats the uilitarian purpose of your viewpoint?

Nigger

>>683713272
Three Psilocybin trips.

>>683709047

This is so true. All the carnage that HAS happened and WILL happen trying to make sense of consciousness and life itself is ultimately pointless but necessary.

>>683713540

>Consciousness is the fifth dimension

Do you even science?

>>683713839
Indeedily I do.

>>683713009
So what exactly are you preaching here? Your just a whiny, self-righteous faggot. This everyone knows. You fill life with your own meaning, be it religion, drugs, family, work, hobbies, sex, etc. And then your off, just like all your ancestors before you. The fact that life is meaningless didn't stop them from living, and it shouldn't for you. If you wish to end the cycle though, at least for your genes, the answer is simple. Don't reproduce and kill yourself.

>>683713913
filthy hippie

THis is some good stuff, but it needs more... I don't know, what do you think, Anon?

Who cares if life is meaningless? I can still enjoy my life, and if there's nothing after this that's just all the more reason to enjoy life while I can.

>>683714053
Too late, I already have reproduced and I feel fucking aweful about it.

>>683713009
>I think it's funny how...

Woman detected or cunt

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>>683713009
We are part of this unniverse,
We are in this universe,
The universe is in us.
Feel confident, faggot, you are etternal...

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>>683712887
The meaning of life is to live? So then the question is who are the haves and who are the have nots and is it fair.. if it isn't you should kill those who are sitting with a billion dollars in their bank accounts while you don't have a single one in your pocket.

>>683714412
Awful*

>>683714566
theres a better question
this faggot is saying only way to solve anything or exist is to be dead

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>>683713009

I think it's funny how so many dumb fucks say abstract concepts don't exist because they don't make sense when taken to the ultimate extreme. Nothing is ultimate, all exists relative to something else. You are stupid for redefining something as an impossible version of itself in order to tell other people it doesn't exist.

>>683714412
Then kill your baby and yourself. Yet you won't do it because you care about it. So you have meaning ascribed to your life already. What the fuck are you on about, anon? What are the points of these meaningless threads?

>>683712439
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuiNtC4kURk

I just imagined this song when I saw that kek

Top song for OP to KHS to.

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>>683714057
deal with it

>>683714347
I think we need to go a step beyond just enjoying life. We need to explore it. If enjoying life were enough we would basically just end up bonobo chimps, eating and fucking and eventually dying with no progress towards something better, more sustainable. We are powerful creatures, driven to understand and manipulate our surroundings. Could a mere chimp devise a fully immersive virtual reality brothel where you could fuck any fictional character imaginable? Chimps can only gape in horror at the pleasures we may yet devise!

>>683709047
So? Who cares? If it bothers you that life is just neurons and chemicals just kill yourself.

>>683714908
>What are the points of these meaningless threads?

That question might as well apply to all threads on 4chan.

>>683713540
This guy gets it

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If you would like some perspective on the meaningfully epic meaninglessness of existing in a universe, try this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFfKWaM1Bp8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdbpyQGWFd4

Lyrics: http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/ayreon/01011001.html

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I disagree.

>>683713009
>every thought, feeling and action you have is pre-determined by physical laws.

Is free will vs determinism a closed case now?

>>683709047
Thats philosophy, you can talk all you want about it but you're not allowed to do anything to change it.
Unwritten philosophers law

>>683715842
Yes.

You mind is a phenomenon of your brain, your brain is matter, all matter behave by the laws of physics.

>>683715842
Scientists say we have free won't rather than free will.

>>683709047
if life is so terrible, death sounds like the perfect solution

>>683716240
Our brain also behaves at the quantum level, and that we know is unpredictable.

>>683715842
It is actually. There is no free will just as there is no actually concious being, merely a set of ever changing patterns of sufficient complexity to produce the illusion of free will or a sense that we exist apart from our perceptions. Even our self awareness is simply a set of perceptions within a framework of memory manufactured from sensory stimulus and some rather deviously complex neural machinery.

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>>683715776
Hitler says ,''No Fate But What We Make'''
True story did not steal from John Connor.

>>683716530
>every dimension above the fourth is illusory because reasons

kek

>>683716530
Oh anon, don't you realize the frailties of reductionism? Haven't you heard the whole is greater than the sum of its parts?

>>683709047
Entropy always increases, so youre statement is valid OP

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>>683709047
When did you finally realise the truth of nihilism, OP?

>>683716423
So what? Randomness is not free will.

>>683711770
learn how to properly use this fag ass "edge" shit.

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>>683716930
Not according to Hitler

>>683716871
see
>>683713701

>>683716744
and below as fourth 2

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>>683716930
So what? Unpredictability is not randomness.

>>683716761
Haven't you heard that any sufficiently complex technology is indistinguishable from magic? Stop looking for a soul, we are nothing more or less than a marvelously complex computer capable of some truly wonderful programming.

>>683716930
Right, but rational beings have free won't. We don't HAVE to act on our impulses all the time, we do have a choice, albeit limited. Learn to work with the constraints.

Actually there is a God, which gives meaning to life. You are just a soul inside a body along for the ride. Sure you can use the manual controls, but your body is ultimately the one calling the shots. The only thing you can do in life is make decisions based on the temptations that are thrown in front of you. Then when your vessel of a body wears out and dies, your soul goes back to account for the decisions you made. Your post is just another way the devil is trying to trick us into thinking God doesn't exist. I'll give him credit, he is a sneaky bastard, but I certainly won't let him influence me because I see the bigger picture in this game of life.

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>>683717363

Or maybe nihilism is overrated and there's too much we simply don't know in order to make such assertions. Who's to say there is free will and that we act according to neurochemicals? For all we know, we're puppets in someone's game of pretend and there's already a story with a set ending and dozens of different stories being brought to life parallel to this world's. For all we know, the universe is pointless and is just a mixture of chemicals and reactions. But we keep living in order to find out. The reasoning of humanity is bigger than the reason of one human alone. One human alone means nothing. An entire species inspires collective curiosity into the unknown and it's that curiosity that gives us meaning.

>>683717215
We are a positive feedback loop. We have the potential to become gods, to achieve immortality, to create what never was. If you're not a part of the progress, you're a part of the problem.

>>683709047
And who cares about meaning?

>>683709047
babby's first nihilism post

>>683717363
Can you actually prove any of these assertions?
If not, I have no reason to believe it.

>>683717585
>shit or get off the cosmic pot

I concur.

>>683717363
And here we have a perfect example of a computer infected with memetic virus! A self replicating thought pattern with all the hallmarks of really well crafted malware, and you still doubt we are anything but meat machines!

>>683717754
If you could prove God exists, that would defeat the whole purpose of life.

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>>683709047

>provides bleak picture of staunch physicalism
>claims non-physical entities exist

If what you say about humans, that anything we do is just chasing neurochemical rewards in our brain, than I'm going to assume you think this holds for other sentient animals of the earth too.

Suffering is a normative concept. Pain (and pleasure) are qualia with weighted values attached to them. You think, I'm sure, that pain and pleasure are caused by extended physical explanation i.e. sensations from the skin send messages to the c-fibers in the brain which are responsible for the qualia of pain, or something like that. The weighted values impel creatures towards seeking and avoiding pleasure and pain. Avoiding judgments of "good and bad," I can at least say we prefer pleasure to pain, based on the subjective nature of their distinct qualias.

Because there is a preference, aka a distribution of subjective value, aka a normative impetus, life has some meaning and it's not just brute physical substance.

The universe devoid of value distributing creatures might be meaningless, but that is a weaker claim and only part of your original post.

>>683717875
What....

>>683717101
kek, it took me two or three Major Depressive episodes.

>>683717195
Your Autism is off the charts Anon my god

I agree to some level but as some say here the meaning is not what is important, having the chance to be alive is what matters and been ablentonshare this life with others, unfurtunately as you say most people is focus in self sucess ideas or something and we forget of orhers, and we end up with this fucked up ideas.

>>683717862
>meat machines

http://www.terrybisson.com/page6/page6.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ

>>683718267
Thank you anon.

>>683717875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFy730AY1Ec

>>683709047
Go to sleep school starts at the morning.
No but seriously you're right life has no general meaning, it's what you make out of it that makes life so great/bad

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>>683718194
The purpose of life here on Earth is to do the right things to get into Heaven. If everyone knew for a fact that God exists, then everyone would get into Heaven, therefore making life on Earth irrelevant.

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>>683709047
>people actually want to exist for eternity
>they like the idea of whatever they did in their finite time on earth to count towards how they'll spend that eternity
>there are people who absolved their sins on their deathbed that are now supposedly enjoying eternal joy and comfort regardless of their transgressions in life
>the concept of an afterlife is a cruch for an inability to accept your own ineviable death
>what would all these religious types do when we finally find alien life?
>they're not saved by jesus/mohamed/whoever so they're damned for eternity
>aliens demonstrate either a lack of religion or conflicting religious beliefs
>shit storm on earth ensues to exterminate the new nonbelievers
>religious extremist of all sorts believe we are the only sentient beings in the entire universe

>>683717517
I love you.
In a sexual way

>>683719585
I love you too anon.
In every way.

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>>683709047
the spark of divinity is community
we are the culmination of billions of building blocks that built something else that built something else that made bacteria that became friends with other bacteria who got to know some yeasts which mites find delicious. its not entirely implausible to think that our whole universe is another beings mitochondria. How would we know?

>>683718916
If you actually believe this, report to sector 9 for a level 10 deep scan and purge for your infected memory files.

>>683719085
>Learn to greentext properly
For your sake, you better hope you're right. The idea of an afterlife and having to attest for your sins can be very scary to think about, so it's safer to just say it's not real and blow it off. I get it, but you really need to rethink your purpose here. I'll pray for you man, whether you want me to or not.

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>>683719085 or aliens have religions as well, which may even be similar to our own :)

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>Life is a futile and meaningless game where literally whatever you do, you're just chasing a neurochemical reward in your brain. It doesn't matter how materialistic or spiritual you are, it's all the same, just neurons firing gratification patterns in your head.

And yet you presume the firing of the neurons is all the same, like any storm is the same or any force of nature. It has similarities but possible responses to stimuli are uncountable.

>By merely existing you are imposing suffering and death upon other sentient beings and yourself, it doesn't matter how vegan or ethical you are, your very existence creates carnage around you. And you will also ultimately suffer and die no matter who you are or what you do in this life.

Not necessarily. lol, pick up your nuts you little bitch. Take responsibility for what you do instead of talking in extremes.

>There won't be any lost loved ones or god(s) waiting for you on the other side of death either, all religion and promises of an afterlife is just the neurotic fantasy of petty doomed beings desperately trying justify their meaningless existence.

Doom? Petty? In relation to what? You have an idea of hope? ok. Value? Alright. So instead of focusing on those things you pretend all is bleak because there is no guy with a beard and special little happy place after death. Nothing is truly created or destroyed but you're crying all day about doom here. Please.

>The universe and all life in has no intrinsic meaning and the only guarantee you have as a sentient being is that your very brief existence will be replaced by the eternal void of no awareness after your bodily functions cease.

There's lots of guarantees.They're guaranteed by scientific observation. Eternal void of no awareness? Wait, if it's eternal then how do you know it's always a void? Your sophomoric conceptualization of the universe is quite small next to the infinite, and the infinite ways molecules form and consciousness or something like it can arise.

>>683720294
If you don't believe it, I'll pray for you.

>>683719085
what if there are aliens in heaven?

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>>683717363
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/health/boy-battling-cancer/index.html

>>683709047
Fuck it. Life is meaningless, but IT IS NOT MEMEINGLESS. Life isnt some goddamn spiritual quest or some bullshit, its a fucking meme, everything is a goddamn meme. Carry on like always /b/ro

>>683720360
To live in anticipation of reward or to avoid punishment from any agency but your own judgement and conscience is to be less than human. Do good because it is good, not out of fear of celestial retribution. Defy even God if it begs you to do evil in it's name.

>>683720534
> If you don't believe in my timewasting activities I shall waste more time. haHA!

>>683720805
<3

>>683709047
Life's meaning if the one you give it. So what if it's a neurochemical reward? Why is that a bad thing? There is a whole world of mysteries here on Earth. There are countless mysteries in the universe. Who are you to say that the universe has no meaning? Who are you to say that there's nothing out there that would give our lives purpose?

>>683709047
Fool that you are, for you trust the chemicals in your brain to tell you they are chemicals

>>683709047

Thank Christ for that.

>>683716240
>Presuming physics of the current paradigm can explain all phenomena.

>>683720805
>Defy even God if it begs you to do evil in it's name.
Nah that's not how it works. God trumps all, and anything He says goes. If you don't agree with that, then you may not necessarily reap the benefits of it in the afterlife. Luckily for us, God wants us to do good in the world.

>>683721312
>Luckily for us, God wants us to do good in the world.

That's why half the ten commandments are about how to kiss his ass properly.

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>>683721312
And yet there are millions of junior jihadists out there screaming for the blood of the infidel in God's name. There are baptist ministers preaching wholesale slaughter on ideological grounds. Whose God is right? On such unsteady ground we should not plant our faith. We can only look to ourselves for a moral compass, and if we cannot trust that, then we do not deserve what dubious mercy any higher being may deign to bestow. Be a good man without Gods or demons and you will prove worthy to stand with even the nobelest of souls.

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>>683720773
Quite right.

>>683721442
Yeah it's called staying strong in your faith and not falling into temptations like money, sex, drugs, etc. I don't expect everyone on this site to change their views, I'm just doing my duty of getting the word out and engaging in conversation about it. The rest is between you and God.

>>683722179
No, I'm talking about the half that are about how to kiss his ass properly, not the half that are about the most basic moral concepts imaginable. Do you even know your own religion?

>>683720718
I wish I could exchange my life for his one.

I'm 31 and I'm so pathetic everyone despise me. Nobody understands how I arrived to my situation not even in 4chan so I must be pretty horrible. I don't deserve to live.

But that kid... Why him but not me.

>>683721907
>Be a good man without Gods or demons and you will prove worthy to stand with even the nobelest of souls.
I disagree completely. Making a conscious decision to not follow God will certainly not get you into Heaven.

>>683720360
I'm drunk so my green texting is fucked up, forgive me. Honestly I'm not worried about there being an afterlife because I never knew of a life before this one. So what is to say that I'll remember this life during the next? And if I do, maybe this was all just a trial and the real challenge lies ahead?

>>683721312 You trust any guidance you receive from anything supernatural to be God and not any other entity messing with you?

>>683709047
k

>Pascal's Wager.

I think God is misinterpreted. I believe God to be the operating system of myself and my environment and yes its predetermined but for my own benefit so go with the flow. Solipsism I guess.

>>683722377
Which ones specifically? He says He's the only God so don't worship anyone else, and don't say his name in vain. Pretty reasonable.

>>683722472
No, but it will give your life worth in it's own right. Honestly, any god that would refuse the soul of a good man isn't worth worshiping. I'd rather live one life on my own terms than be the bootlicker of a megalomaniacal fearmonger for eternity.

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>>683709047
when i am witnessed and ride the shiny chrome to Valhalla all will remember me. I die I live I die again.

>>683722533
Well God did say that we only have to go through life once. Even if you were hanging out in Heaven before this life began, it's not like God would allow you to remember that while you're here. That would be cheating.

>>683722627
Correct.