non-American here:

Is she even anti-gun?

>>683693538
She has said what she'll do what I had described here first day in office.

>>683693538
>>683693756
No she hasn't. She is not for gun confiscations.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/gun-violence-prevention/

She lost the 2008 primary partially because Obama described her as "Annie Oakley" because of her position on guns.

>>683694329
Are you kidding me?! She praised the Australian gun confiscation thing that happened back then! What does that tell you? She's up for grabs!

Yeah, it'd be a glorious way out. Get to go to Valhalla. No reason to live anyway, just existing.

>>683695571
She said she likes the idea of gun buybacks. She never has suggested a law to ban and confiscate all guns. There is a pretty big difference.

She's mentioned that she wants a gun ban law

>>683696229
She's changed her tune over the years

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>>683693119
How to start civil war 101

>>683696431
"Assault weapons" ban. I'm no supporter of that, nor are most people and congress people, but that's not a blanket gun ban.

>>683696630
There would be no war.
How to Install a new government 101.

>>683693119
As someone from a country with no guns except rural areas, you guys are retarded. What is so important about the right to bear arms anyway?

Not possible you fucking idiots. Its an amndment not a statute. They were written in order of importance. Its #2. Good luck with that criminal piece of trash being able to overturn an amendment .... much less one of the first ten. Lmao....

>>683696630
Civil war yes..but gun owners vs...? Are anti gunners gonna pick up a gun and fight back?

Did Obama take your guns?? I hear he bought stock in guns and ammo companies before taking office. LOL, at you dumb 'Muricans.

Gun cucks actually believing this. And I'm no Clinton supporter.

>inb4 Much Shillary

>>683693119
HILLARY IS A NIGGER TEST TEST

>>683697019
They're mine and they're not effecting you.
It's also nice to have a non-depreciating asset
It's also nice to have the best self defense weapon.
It's also fun to have a hobby.
It's also fun to learn about the mechanics behind them
It's also nice to be able to resist tyranny.

>>683697204
She doesn't want to overturn that. That's just trump rhetoric. He's certainly not an accurate source of information, especially regarding his opponents.

>>683697401
Resist tyranny? You're honestly telling me that you could fight back against the u.s. government, armed forces included with assault rifles and machine guns?

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It would never happen.

>>683696731
Given that there is no clear definition of an assault weapon, that may as well be a blanket ban.

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>>683697401
I also get the self defence idea. But here we don't have guns and it has made it safer. Promoting a culture of self respect and violence free appears to be a safer approach

>>683697624
>Vietnam
>Afghanistan
>Iraq

No one could possibly stand up to the U.S. army!

>>683697624
Yes.
Even if it's just a trade that's ensured civilian victory.
Even at terrible trade odds it's an ensured civilian victory.
Civilians have the upper hand in attempted occupation.
They always have the jump on the occupying force.
You come down the road with your troop carrier demanding the turn in of guns, books, gold, what ever. You'll lose men doing it.
No one is saying that gun owners are rambo.

>>683697624
see
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>>683697958
Top keks

>>683693119

/k/ommando here. My wife and I own 39 firearms and have over 16,000 rds of ammunition from .17 to .50. I keep a 300WM precison rifle up in the attic pointed at the road.

We also own Class III goodies (yes, we have our tax stamps).

Hillary can go fuck herself with Bill's old Monica cigars.

>>683697733
She wants to reinstate the assault weapons ban, which did define assault weapons.

They will have to pry them from my cold deaf hands

>>683697650
Lol there is wrong on so many levels
I'm addition someone this stupid wouldn't be planning shit and there is no such position as this in the government. There are however executive government officials however they fufI'll a different roll.

>>683698088
We pretty much have control over Afghanistan.

Iraq is in chaos because we pulled out AND Arab spring happened shortly thereafter.

>>683698088
That's different. They were trying to win over the local population. You try and have a revolution against the most advanced and powerful army in the world? And why not change things through diplomatic violence free methods? Why all this angsty teenage revolution talk?

>>683693119
Probably will never ever happen but keep believing that

Plata o plomo

>>683698020
I'm not concerned with "safety". I'm concerned with ability.
And just so you know, lawful gun ownership correlates inversely with violent crime.
The vast majority of people i n the US don't walk around thinking there's a chance they'll get shot, even in major cities.
But getting stabbed at a train station in the UK is a very real thought in the back of people's heads.

Amen bro

>>683697552
Right, so on that front shes gonna do...?..... absolutley nothing.

>>683698136
That's ridiculous. Maybe the your government doesnt want a civil war because *gasp* they are your government and want to help people rather than turn them into sheeple?

>>683693119
Does she magically change the Constitution too?

>>683694329
See
>>683698745

Candidates have web sites where they post what they intend to do...

>>683698091
OK but why are you going to war with a government whose primary concern with eliminating assault rifles and heavy guns is to protect its citizens?

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>>683698840
I love it when a click bait comes to plan

You people on 4chan are ridiculous. Hillary is a nice old women. She's a grandmother for petes sake. She would never take anything that wasn't hers. That would be stealing. She only wants the best for this country and is the most qualified candidate.

>>683693119
>law to confiscate all guns goes into effect immediately
she'll do what all libs do and just go after white gun owners.

>>683699007
wtf is an assault rifle or heavy gun?

>>683698612
OK explain Canada then? We have neither of those problems and no guns. Why do you need to own a gun? You should be able to if you pass a test and can pay registration fees and licensing but there is no need to own an m4 or what not.its a weapon made to kill large amounts of people you don't need that for a hobby

I'd shove my size 11 up her dusty cunt

>>683693119
No one ever will take Americans guns away without prying it from their cold dead hands. Even if they somehow confiscate all the known weapons, it's. Fact ghost gun manufacturing will never end

>>683699322
Uhm I have no idea other than my cod playing days.

>>683699363
>OK explain Canada then? We have neither of

>12th in the world in gun ownership
>no guns

Gun nuts are basically bronies with a lobby. What an annoying fucking bunch of goddamn babies that hijack any attempt at taking real unrelated issues

I'm for gun rights, but I wish you fucking dorks would get another hobby already

>>683699363
You're right. I need it to defend myself from tyranny. Even if tyranny isn't here yet. Read the constitution, the forefather were a lot smarter then most people today because they had foresight

>>683699363

>no guns

fam I live in scarborough and people are getting shot all the time all over Toronto. North York. There are like 3 times the gun murders than there were last year at this time.

>>683699536
Yes but the ownership is all by a small group of people. You'll find guys in Manitoba who own like 80 guns. Kinda skews numbers that only show an average. That means absolutely nothing.

>>683693756
What you said was proven false and I'm progun. She's still anti gun and pro awb and mag caps so that makes her an idiot

>>683699322
As far as the government is concerned:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

>>683699645
What tyranny?

>>683696731
Supporting awb and mag caps makes her an idiot

>>683699645
>believing this shit

If there ever was a violent government movement, you really think anyone would bother with your flyover shithole? Get over yourself

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>>683699645
Tyranny? Come on, man. People want guns mostly because they're fun. Nothing wrong with that.

>>683699681
Which is still tiny for the size of the population. Not only that but it is the mentality where people only seek guns if they are serious required or have interest because of the time and money involved.

>>683693119
We kill them, with guns, and then rebuild ten years down the road once we win.

>>683698273
Not in any sensible way, you had guns with identical performance defined differently. That ban was asinine.

>>683699825
The removal of guns.

>>683699946
Or a smart politician because it's a dumb rallying cry with no empirical evidence it will resolve the problem. Kind of like "build the wall" for democrats.

>>683698273
And that definition is essentially "scary looking guns"

>>683700082
This.
I'm 100% in support of hunters/collectors and other hobbyists, but these morons that indulge onto their militia delusions and expect us to take them seriously are the fucking g worst

>>683700579
Even though it's a reality that is happening all over the world at this very moment.

>>683699007
That's the rub. That's not why they're doing it at all.

>>683699363
Nobody needs half the shit they own. Why is that always an argument? You dont need a car with more than one seat and a one cylinder engine, but you probably want one.

>>683700356
>need guns to fight tyranny
>tyranny is people taking your guns

>>683698816

>the government just wants to help people

my fucking sides

>>683699141
She's not qualified to suck her husbands dick

>>683700809
Yes.
So when the government says
>Gimme ur guns
What do you say?
>Tyranny
What do you have?
>Guns
What do you do?
>Fite IRL

>>683700769
OK so you know whats going on? You fucking aluminum foil tards. You think you know why they're reducing guns?

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>>683696548
She changes her opinion based on who she is around

>>683699322
An assault rifle is a regular rifle with full auto capabilities. These are already pretty much B&. You can get them in certain states but the ATF is all up in your ass

>>683700752
All over the world? No it's not.

>>683697624
>300 million US citizens vs 1 million military personnel

>>683697230
gun owners vs cops

>>683693119
Cold. Dead. Hands.
I refuse to submit to a European style rule. I am an American and wI'll defend my rights to the death

>>683700773
BECAUSE CARS AREN'T MADE TO KILL PEOPLE. they can but their primary raison detre is to fucking carry people to their destinations. If your gun was meant to make toast and had the side effect of being murderous by all means keep it. Guns are made to kill.
You buy a gun you have bought something that's purpose is to kill.

>>683701036
"I have two words for you: predator drones. You won't see it coming." - Obama
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4

>>683700752
Yeah, and the black helicopters are going to round up all the dissidents at local Walmarts and execute them for being conservative in hitler-obama's neo america

The only scary thing that's grounded in reality is that nutjobs like you get a vote

As an outsider (Australian gun owner) is seems as if Americans are the dumbest cunts on earth. You're allowing the top few percent of the richest people in society to completely fuck the rest of your society through a corrupt form of democracy that's ruining you financially, environmentally and physically. And you fuckwits are stuck arguing about guns and abortion.

>>683701395
I'd be surprised if 1 million citizens rose up to fight

>>683700893
Your sides are probably the width of the fucking Delaware river. The governments plan is obviously to control all your minds.

>>683701208
>"Certain States"
Aka free states.
You don't sound like you're actually informed on the subject of gun control.
Reagan in 1986 pushed through the act that made it so no more new production select fire or automatic weapons can be sold to the public.
Any gun before 1986 it doesn't matter. You just have to have a tax stamp, which made law in 1934 if I'm not mistaken.

>>683699137
Does this sentence make sense to you?

>>683693119
>Be canadian
>have reasonable gun restrictions placed in the 90s
>voluntary surrender program, violating weapons grandfathered out for current owners
>no problems occurred

>>683701464
Why not just move damn man no reason to get yourself killed

>>683701624
Hitler Obama? You mean Hussein Obama.

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>>683701664
Most of us don't give a shit, really.

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>>683701782
THANK YOU. Finally an intelligent person appears. Ameritards plan on having a revolution cause papa took away their bb gun

>>683701680
id be surprised if any cop/active duty military would volunteer to go door to door to confiscate said guns, or follow the order.

>>683701571
Yeah, drone strike the resistance.
We'll see how that goes.
Fact of the matter is a resistance is the most important thing against evil.
The fight against evil is never won, when you give up is when they win.

>>683702054
Who wants to confiscate guns?

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>>683693119
Doesn't matter much to me, idaff, tbh fam.
>still voting Trump tho

>>683701504
So the fuck what!? I dont kill anyone with my guns so what the fuck does it matter what kind i want? If I want it, and have the money to buy it, i shouldn't have the ability taken away from me because someone who will never be affacted by my owning it finds it scary.

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>>683702140
Trump said Hillary does, so it must be true.

>>683701664
As an australian... our country is doing the exact same thing you fucking retard.

>>683701395
> implying that all of America's civilian population will even pick up a gun let alone risk their lifes in combat.

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>>683702054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQvDn9MEtNo

A second or third man in the woods would have wiped this whole squad when they broke rank after the first volley.

>>683702022
>>683701846
>taking advice from 4chan on matters you have no fucking clue.

Top keks. I hope it happens so the army kills all you dumbasses. You can't bring your guns to the afterlife tho. Been banned.

>>683701419

> Implying gun owners and cops/military are mutually exclusive..

>>683702024
I really don't get the problem

>THEY"RE GOING TO TAKE OUR GUNS

fuck off, grandfathering exists for a reason fucknuts. I guess americans really are stupid.

>>683702280
Oh of course. Were also talking about the guy that wants to violate the first amendment which imo is more important than the second

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>>683701664
I moved to the US and got hoarse telling this to people. The truth is they don't care about the laws or prosperity, they see elections like we see sporting events. They give zero fucks about the issues, it's all about "supporting the team".

I'm not joking, it's massive entertainment here. When I got my head around that I stopped being angry and moved on with my life

>>683702449
I guess you guys really are cucked.

>>683693119
i'm so disillusioned by american politics at this point. how the fuck can anyone know what any politician say is true? she has flipped flopped on positions so many times, she straight up lies...and she'll say what she has to get elected.

i say let the country go to shit. who the fuck cares. politicians dont care about the well being of the people. they only care about themselves. and we the people can't do shit either.

>>683702449
Sadly yes. Let them have a revolution and then we swoop in. No more winters for us. I'm moving to Florida. After all the dead Americans are cleaned out tho.

>>683702449
spot the eurofag

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>>683702781

I'm an Australian and I own 3 guns legally none of which are for self defence

>>683697624

Do you mean the military that's been so severely fucked by this government over the past 7 years is gonna kill their families for the butcher of bengazi. Is that the armed forces your talkin about?

>>683701782
>reasonable gun restrictions
>can buy ar15 guns
>can't buy ak-47s or any variant (semiautomatic) reason being that they're scary cause you see terrorists using them in the movies

I disagree

>>683702759
Canada actually.

I can understand the legal reasoning for it, it is a right enshrined in your constitution and I fully support your belief that you have that right. I just think this paranoid bullshit of taking guns away is ridiculous.

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it wont happen
she can become pres all she likes but even is she did she have to fight tooth and nail to do that and then there's the fact that it would have to be a slow process leading to disarming, at least 15+ years maybe more

the thing is a rapid reinforced disarmament of the American people would simply only lead to a kind of civil war or more rather a revolution that could potentially over throw the government, what ever happens, in the end a lot people die.

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>>683702921
What do you use to defend yourself from a massive crocodile then? Ya cunt

>>683703013
Military's been fucked by the government a lot longer than 7 years. It's pretty much the status quo now.

>>683703054
its not that, its that certain models are banned by name. but yeah, it is kind of fucked up. I was thinking more semi-auto only and 5 round mag caps and a simple licensing system than specific models you can and can't get. All the guns I own or want are considered antiques so I don't need to worry about any of that shit anyway.

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>>683703174
A knife!

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>>683703248
Military IS the government

>>683703054
Ak47s are the poor mans ar.15.

move to texas

>Hillary will lie about anything to win

>Hillary will seize guns

Pick one.

>>683703386
So are public schools.

This thread belongs on
>>>/pol/

>>683702317
To much less of an extent we can still have a decent minimum wage, access to decent health care, the ability to walk around without fear of being shot, and much lower rates of incarnation.

>>683703420
Cheap WASR AK: $599
Cheap AR clone: $599

I feel the savings

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>>683703385

Lol the nra and gun companies profut more from hillary than anyone else
>this cuck president is going to ban your guns. Better buy them now
They did this with obamas election too. Gun purchases soar when a democrat is elected. Even though they know they cant do shit about gun laws. Its a dumb ploy to get idiots to vote republican.

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>>683703562
Go find a trap thread then if you didn't want to talk about something random.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnJZ2haLPCw&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MBf_LvqUsQ

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>>683693538
Nope. She might use anti gun rhetoric to appease the more left wing voters but she is not.
People like op are just fucking idiots who don't know how to access the slew of information at their finger tips, opting instead to be lazy and gullible.

>>683703420
It's got its pros.

>>683703836
I would totally have fucked young hillary. too bad she grew up into a shrill shilling lizard cunt

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>>683703335
Kek
Ofc!

>>683703646
Ar15s are generally 4-500 more than aks (almost twice the price.

>>683701680
That 1 million would be the military you think will follow orders to defile civil liberties and the constitution, things they've sworn to protect.. They are some of the biggest pro-members of our society.

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>>683704033
Nigger I bought a wasr-10 for $515.

>>683701664
>implying aussies are any better
Sorry you're so fucking retarded that a country half a world away is more interesting to you than your own shit government.

>>683693119
Despite her actually being pro-gun, I'll entertain the idea. At most she'll do gun restrictions, but in the end, I know the supreme court will declare any laws she tries to pass in gun control as unconstitutional. So, I'll basically wait and let the supreme court handle it, I have faith in that much of my government.

>>683702371
You act like it's going to be like the Civil War from the 1840's. If the American populations would attack government assets, it would be through guerrilla warfare aka American Afghanistan. Any mistake the military would do like killing innocent people in the crossfire of like a small group of "terrorist's" would then just further fuel the fire until it's straight up anarchy.

>>683701174
Omg someone changed their opinion over time! Clearly two faced and can't be trusted

>>683704271
Yea, but they're usually a lot more expensive than aks. At least at a couple shops here in Vermont.

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>>683703280
>>683703095
even if those people were shot.The argument was halved on which was right and wrong.At least from my perspective.Americans are not gonna enter a battleground when they have their leisure.Those people would be gunned down and you would have protesters all over,protesters cleard and life goes back to the usual.Look at the ones who took over that fucking middle of no where federal building.Hell even one of them was shot.....no one even gives a fuck now.

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>>683693119

She'd have to repeal the 2nd amendment, which isn't that easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoFKskvSq4

More likely she would try to do some bullshit like letting people sue gun and ammo companies for selling a legal product that was used illegally by the person who purchased it. That would effectively make it impossible to do business selling guns or ammo and would drive every gun and ammo company out of business.

In either case, yeah I'd be down with seceding from the Union and I'd imagine most of the hillbillies who live in the mountains around me would too. The federal government is corrupt and broken and shits all over he constitution and the Bill of Rights, the American people would be much better off if we could get rid of the entirety of the Democrat and Republican parties.

>>683704033
No, they're not. Bottom of the line models for both are available at the $600 mark. Oly Plinker, NPAP, DPMS, cheap parts kit and stripped lower. AK mags and ammo are slightly chepaer, unless/until import bans are placed.

>>683704033
yes that was before Obama banned russian imports

all non-russian AK clones are considerably overpriced for what they are

>>683702024
No, we don't. If you think /b/ is at all a representation of Americans there is something fucking wrong with you.
And yes, I said Americans in reference to the USA alone. Because we're the only thing in the continent that matters.

>>683704510
The shops exist to rip you off except for FFL transfer and gunsmithing.

>>683702204
It is quite literally impossible for you to tell me that you will never use it to kill someone. Also, assuming that all gun owners respect the rules is just plain ignorant.