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Pascal's Wager states that it's smarter to bet that there is a God because if you are wrong, the consequences are not as dire as having incorrectly bet that there is no God.

Math has conclusively proven that God exists, so why do you foolishly choose disbelief?
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Show me the math
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>>683458171
If dubs this is now a get thread.
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>>683458697
Fag
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>>683458171
Pascal's Wager is based on a false dichotomy. There are many, many other possibilities beyond Goes to Heaven or Goes to Hell. NEXT!
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God
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>>683458171
Long live Odin the most powerful God
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>>683458171
How many religions do you think exist?
I'll assume you fall under Christian, so out of the probably hundreds of religions what makes you think yours is the right one?
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>>683458171
Where is this girl from?
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Rejecting the existence of miracles, scriptures or divine intervention does not equal the absence of a belief in god.

Deism is where Atheists go when they grow up.
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>>683459296
Not OP. Hindu here, all rivers lead to the ocean- all paths lead to god. Checkmate, athiests.
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>>683458697
cool gif but no dubs nig
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>>683458171
if their is a god i doubt he wants us to waste our time worrying about him.

get a life faggot
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>>683458171
That's a poor understanding of mathematical proof my boy
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>>683458171
If god exist. Then your sure as hell not going to heaven nigger. You go on /b/.
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>>683458171
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo
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>>683458171
Wtf dude.

You said trips and you'll stop posting this forever, and we got trips and quads.

You're dishonest, and all credibility has been lost, if you had any credibility on /b/.
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>>683459532
Agnostic here, what makes you so sure of that?
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>>683459472
This. Though Judaism is also attractive. Maximal ethical monotheism, minimal doctrinal bullshit.
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>>683459759
This interview pretty much sums up my opinion also
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>>683458171
These threads have going on for... A year at the very least. Who the fuck keeps posting this? Is it a bot?

I don't get it.
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>>683458171
Fuck you that's why
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It's obvious that the OP is an atheist.
He makes these threads to cause atheists to rage and Christians to be disparaged.

So, why do atheists respond to this daily bait?

Take your pick:

1. They are young and want validation for their views.
2. They are insecure and want validation for their views.
3. They are too stupid to realize it's a troll and shit-tier bait
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>>683460029
The dedication of the troll knows no bounds, I don't think there could be anyone that is hard-core religious that frequents this board
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>>683460135
I'm curious and want to understand other people's views.
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Where's your god now?
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>>683460135
I think this threads just a daily tradition now, it's always entertaining
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>>683459296
No one is talking about specific religions. Just because many of the existing religions are nothing short of retarded and an attempt at controlling people, does not mean there is no god, even if said god differs from the teachings of any existing religion.
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>>683459472
>Deism is where Atheists go when they grow up
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>>683460354
These threads always refer to what I assume is the Christian God.
How can you push your religion down someone's throat when there's so many other possibilities?
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>>683459907
That wasn't me. That was a different member of our church.
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>>683458171
because i dont give a fuck
and nobody should ever give a fuck about what religion other people believe in, unless it shows some kind of danger, like if your friend is a dirty sand nigger muslim
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>>683458171

>>683458987
this


It is also based on the false premise that pretending to believe in God leads to a result promised to those who truly and deeply believe.

Belief in God is not just telling yourself God exists. Belief is living your whole life as if he exists, because you believe he does. It's like believing in gravity and adjusting your actions because you believe if you jump off a cliff gravity will pull you to your death even though you can't see the future and cannot be certain of this outcome. If you believe in God and the teachings of Jesus, you would implement all those teachings in your actions because you would truly believe it to be true.
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>>683460622
>These threads always refer to what I assume is the Christian God.
No they don't. They may seem like that to you because your view on things is so limited.

I'm not a christian, and I'm not pushing my views on anyone. The only view I'm pushing is the fact that we will never know so people should stop acting like they've cracked the code just because the major religious movements are retarded and not worth following.
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>>683460574
I love that this woman exists. It's like a walking validation of my hatred.
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>>683458171
>Pascal's Wager
Like nobody's thought of that before...

>>683458386
Two binary factors. God or no God, correct or incorrect.
God | correct -> no Hell
God | wrong -> no Hell
no God | correct -> no Hell
no God | wrong -> Hell

The idea is that if you believe there is a God, there is a 0% chance of going to hell as opposed to a 50% chance of going to Hell if you wager there isn't a God. It's retarded logic, hardly even a point worth making unless you are 10 years old and just beginning to think.
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Look what yout god has wraught!
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>>683460980
That's entirely possible, religion doesn't really mean much to be so I don't really look into it very much.
You are right about not knowing.
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>>683461146
>implying even if there is a god, things like heaven/hell exist.

God is not synonymous to a christian view of what God is.
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>>683458171
>dedicates entire life to god
>prays every morning and every evening
>baptized
>never sinned once
>on death bed
>runs towards light
>is transferred to hell
>turns out allah was the actual god
>shhhhheeeeeeeeeit
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>>683460135

After reading the thread, I have to agree because these faggots actually think they are earning internet points...KEK.
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>>683461146
It isn't even that simple. You also have to pick a religion, since most religions claim that if you choose incorrectly then you'll still go to hell.
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>>683461283
What a genius you are. The point is made on the premise that there is some deity that will be mad if you don't believe that it exists. Are you having trouble conceptualizing this simple idea? As I said, it's a child's observation, but it's ultimately correct. It's still useless for the most part
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>>683461666
holy shit 666 get
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>>683461727
But even that premise isn't 100%. You can't use "math" like that.
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>>683461897
I think you might be *actually* retarded.
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>>683461395
>never sinned once

No one has ever achieved this feat. Even Jesus Christ sinned in the bible.

Also heaven and hell are not what you all think they are. I'm guessing you're under the age of 22.
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>>683461897
of course that premise is retarded.

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>>683460904
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>>683462155
sorry i haven't shaped up on my bible study, i'll have to work on that
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>>683462155
>Even Jesus Christ sinned in the bible.
Blasphemerfag.
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>>683459956
Meh, it's more or less just the general view we're meant to take. We accept other religions as valid while still thinking our gods are the best.

There are so many different sects and practices in our own religion that it'd be arrogant to say the others are wrong. I personally think Scientology and Eckankar are worthless, new-kid-on-the-block cults, but I'm cool with everyone doing what they please. It's not my job to save people.
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>>683462155
Hell is repetition
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>>683458171
It is not important if we believe in God or not, but if He believes in us.
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>>683462389
Just like this troll thread.
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>>683462382
I like the way you think buddy.
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>>683460759
Kek.

I remember now it was if someone gets 666 you'll quit. And it's in this thread, too.

>we don't believe you
>you need more people
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>>683462469
is a less intelligent version of
>>683462389


both are edgy and pretentious, but one actually contains some wisdom while the other is just horse shit.
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>>683458171
You forget that there are many gods, and most don't love you if you worship the wrong one.
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>>683462759
You don't believe me? But I'm Christian.
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>>683462879
Yeah, I was just quoting Storm of the Century...
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>>683459907
not available in oh so religious america

go fucking figure
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>>683459907
wrong post meant to reply to
>>683459759
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>>683463074
Bullshit. I haven't seen one anon express accurate Christian teachings in this thread.

Bunch of circle jerking idiots.
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>>683462879
And I was quoting "Mondays in the Sun".
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>>683463074
kek
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>>683463454
I can't say I know what that is
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>>683463337
Big whoop want to fight about it
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>>683458171
hail satan
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>>683462985
Technically, all iterations of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all have the same God. People are just too stupid to realize this and stop fighting over something already so stupid.
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>>683463886
Javier Bardem film.
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>>683462732
Hey, thanks mate
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>>683464098
The Christian God is a Triune God. The others only believe in the "Father" part.

Adjust your bullshit.
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>>683461666
>mentions hell
>666 get
>satan confirmed
BE GONE DEMON
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its not a sin to not believe in god it is a sin to believe in a false god out of the billions of gods how do you know yours is the true god
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>>683464315
No, the trinity is straight up polytheism. Christians are just in denial.
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>>683461146
Thia only proves that you are a pussy and are willing to believe nonsense based on nothinf just cause there ses to be a chance of you going somewhere bad based on this flawed logic.
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>>683464540
It is a sin to reject God.
There is not "billions" of gods.
Your statement is complete bait, since you don't know answer any way. Which of obvious from your false facts already stated. Go be ignorant and edgy with someone who doesn't know better. Cause that shit don't fly here.
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>>683464558
Fuck off idiot.
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>>683464937
>There is not "billions" of gods.
I believe anon's point is that humans believe in countless different gods. How do you know that only your god exists and everyone else is wrong?
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>>683465414
"Countless" is even bigger than "Billions".

Stop trying to be intellectual if you insist of filling old tired comments with hyperbole.
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>>683458171
There is a mathematical chance that you die in the next 30 seconds-- but that doesn't mean it's going to happen.
>We'll find out when you start shitposting this again.
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>>683459440
Never ending story.
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>>683465921
countless meaning that throughout time there have been gods that may not even be known in modern day society. Please be retarded elsewhere and stop putting yourself on a high pedestal.
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>>683466423
Nice try to cover, but you're all bullshit as well.
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>>683461625
>Internet points
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>>683466718
im not the person you replied to, but i like how you dont respond with any facts or logic to explain how its bullshit.
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Personally, I think Christianity is awesome. All you have to do is accept Jesus as your savior, and you go to heaven.

So you can literally commit as much sin as you want, even rape and murder, but once you feel those chest pangs just before you croak say "I repent, praise Jesus!" and you go straight to heaven.

Sure it's *possible* you could die and not see it coming, but how common is that? People nearly always have a few moments or at least a few seconds where they know they're about to die. That's all the time you need to wipe away all your sins and go to paradise, even after living a deplorable, evil and/or hedonistic life.
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>>683466999
999 trips get
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>>683466999
Trips call out sad bait.
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>>683466999
Same question posed by all atheists over and over in threads. You fags think you're the first to think of these questions? This shit is decades, if not centuries old. It's a trap question, and it take more time to answer than is worth for me to write down. Do a Google search for the question. Plenty of intelligent discussion forums for you to get an answer. But, since you are all edgy atheists, you won't since it's too much work. What fun is that?
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>>683467353
More fake Christianity doctrine bullshit.
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>>683467660
I believe my opponent and his knowledge, so tell us yourself, what do you think about this so called "trap question".
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I want to kill some witches I'm glad Christianity allows that
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>>683468018
I knew you wouldn't.
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>>683458171
Because the spirit lord and lady Alpalouda and Makularisph demand that I believe in only them, lest I be cursed to eternal wandering.

I'm honestly confused how these "God" believers cling on to such an obviously made up religion, who else calls their big daddy "God" other than someone who just made up their religion on the spot?!
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>>683467660
google search it? yeah because everything on the internet it true, ESPECIALLY on forums? you dont have an argument other than "i say so" and that is obvious
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>>683462985
If someone is going to expand it, they could at least make the effort to lean anything about the religions involved.
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>>683468263
And I knew that you won't take a responsibility of proving some dude's answer of this "trap question".
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>>683465034
That's not idiocy. Strict monotheistic religions don't consider ti acceptable to consider christianity monotheism. Seeing as how whether it is or isn't is just semantics.
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>>683468439
>>683468566

If the truth cannot be found on forums, then why are you here, asking questions?

I told you what to do to find this old questions debated and answered.

You need to be hand held like a child?
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>>683458171

The bet assumes, that if there is a god, we know what god it is and what he is punishing or rewarding. That's ofc bullshit, we don't know. For every possible action you can think of a god rewarding it just as you can think of a god punishing it.
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>>683469141
were clearly looking for your argument, not somebody else's.
you are trying to damage control not having an actual argument. just stop.
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>>683466999
HAIL AUSTRALIAN SATAN
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>>683469340
I'm not getting into a long novel like debate with you, especially on 4chan.

Lazy, arrogant, and ignorant. You were told what to do for an answer.
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>>683469676
and yet you keep on making post dodging around an actual answer when you could have been answering the question asked. keep on damage controlling, you clearly need practice
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>>683469503
¡Heil Roper!
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>>683458171
Well that lasted a whole fucking day. Bait thread as usual. Sage.
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>>683458171
>pascals wager

Topkek anon, come back when you have better bait.
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I'm not a gambling man
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>>683470008
nothing against dubs/gets in /b/
try again nigger
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>>683469853
Please explain in detail how you know you are correct, that all religion is fake. Cite specific examples from each religion and expound on those with your argument for each.

I'll wait for your reply.
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>>683459532
The symbolic relationship bewteen rivers and religions is why i believe its all a joke. Everything religious is symbolism and coincidence
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>>683470323
where in my posts have i ever said all relgions are fake? are you literally fucking retarded? you were denying the fact that there were countless gods throughout history.
Religion isn't fake never said it was, but saying that only one religion is correct is complete blasphemy as well. You don't even know what you are arguing about.
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>>683470688
Fine. Tell me which ones are real and which are fake, citing examples for each and what your argument is.

That is what you are asking.

I know you won't dodge the question since you hate that shit. I'll wait for your novel length answer.
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>>683458171
Some religious leader told your parents bloodtransfusions are bad.
You died.
You are dead now, I'm not.
I won this discussion by your absence,
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>>683471164
There is literally no way of telling which ones are real or fake. im not even the person you started the argument with. My only argument was that there have been countless gods that have been named by religions (meaning some that we may not even know about.)
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>Pascal's Circlejerk
>Pascal GPU
>9:11

What kind of black magic is this /b/?
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>>683471452
Typical circular argument.

I'm done with you.
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>>683461146
I understand the math behind pascal's wager. I am not a gambling man. Where is the math that undeniably proves gods existence as claimed in the op?
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It's obvious that the OP is an atheist.
He makes these threads to cause atheists to rage and Christians to be disparaged.

So, why do atheists respond to this daily bait?

Take your pick:

1. They are young and want validation for their views.
2. They are insecure and want validation for their views.
3. They are too stupid to realize it's a troll and shit-tier bait
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>>683471757
I'm just here for the shit flinging show
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>>683471606
>tries to get other person to argue for them
>doesnt and realities its not even the origional poster he was replying to
>being a manipulative cunt and not knowing it
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If any of you geniuses don't understand the flaws in this Pascal's Easy Justification, here is a video to help you make that transition to the real world:

https://youtu.be/fZpJ7yUPwdU
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>>683471898
realizes* fucking auto correct
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