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What's the deal with so many people identifying as gender fluid, lots more being gay on the internet compared to the 90's and early 2000's?

I mean back then, hardly anyone acted like this and majority were straight, but now it feels like something happened which made this decade's young generation decide to experiment/act different compared to the previous decade's young generation.
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>>683395087
Our society has taught us the power of victimhood. Everyone wants to be different and "oppressed" for attention. Modern parents don't care about tattoos, piercings, long hair ect. so it's the evolution of rebellion.
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>>683396487
Nope.

The simple fact is that all these people felt this way a decade ago, but weren't allowed to express it because of people like you. Now that it's acceptable, people who do actually feel this way are coming out with it.
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>>683396487
Alternatively, having a weird gender identity is more socially acceptable. The internet has allowed people to connect with like minded individuals and express their feelings and desires with some level of anonymity.
> gender fluid person talks to other gender fluid people
> feels more normal and accepted
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>>683397017
yeah but t's like suddenly so many more gays exist than they did a decade ago.

Back in school; there was like 1 gay guy whilst everyone else was straight and I mean that; everyone talked about girls and not one in my group or another group talked about guys.

Hell I can go on my facebook and check all the people who used to go to my school and they ALL have girlfriends and are straight!

BUT now the young generation and schools nowadays; more are deciding to become gay and like dick all of a sudden when hardly anyone did decades ago.
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>>683397017
No you fucking queer, it's trendy to be a fag and be oppressed.
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>>683397856
this
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>>683397813
looks like we wished for the wrong peace
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>>683397856
I honestly blame internet porn for me liking trannies.
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>>683397017
you are wrong. decades ago most of the whole population was straight and kids wanted to fuck girls, now suddenly so many younger ones wanna sick dick for some odd reason.
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>>683397534
Sure, but not everyone in that hugbox does not have accepting elders or neighborhoods. So they take up the flag of victim by proxy.
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It became more socially acceptable. Odds are all the people who identify as genderfluid or queer or gay or what the fuck ever have felt that way for years, but now that it's becoming more socially acceptable to do so they're more likely to come out.

It's not that it's become "trendy" all of a sudden, it's just that people are starting to accept it more is all.
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BPA in our plastics have feminized men.
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>>683395087
Probably because society as a whole is becoming more accepting of it. People are finding it easier to come publicly say it.
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jews did 9/11 checkem
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>>683398773
>Odds are all the people who identify as genderfluid or queer or gay or what the fuck ever have felt that way for years
This is 100% false.

Like I said here
>>683397546
Almost my entire school of males was straight and I can go on facebook and see that they have all become straight with their lives after, no one was gay.

BUT now in schools and for this decades's generation, suddenly so many are becoming gay and changing to be gender queers when gender fluids did not at all exist a decade ago.
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>>683398380
>you are wrong. decades ago most of the whole population was straight and kids wanted to fuck girls, now suddenly so many younger ones wanna sick dick for some odd reason.

gay people existed back then too, you dumb fucker. They just weren't out of the closet because they knew they would never be accepted, so they pretended to be straight.

>mfw all this b8 ITT
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>>683399563
read this
>>683399206
and this
>>683397546

And stop pretending that there existed lots of gays AND gender queers i.e. men who thought they were girls.

Some gays did exist then BUT gender queers/fluids did not exist at ALL.
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>>683395087
Single mothers, Obama, Chem trails, GMO, the Rothschild family, libs, and safe spaces take your pick
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>>683399206
>almost my entire school of male seas straight
>almost

For all you know half of your old classmates could be gay or bi and simply hiding it and staying in the closet because they don't want to be rejected. My aunt was married to a man for 20 years until she divorced and left him for a woman. Turns out she'd been gay the whole time and was hiding it all along until she no longer could. Now she's happy with her new partner.
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>>683395087
It's also because judgement day is coming and porn is a device of satan that is turning all of our young people gay.
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>>683400395
>It's also because judgement day
Christians have been saying that since the day Jesus rose to heaven... and still no judgement.

It will never happen
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It is the universes way of keeping the human population in check.
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>>683395087
Obama did it.
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>>683401065
this is true considering we have over 7 billion people, lots of refugees coming into the country.

So it makes sense for the universe to make more people gay.
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Ever consider that the society we grow up in has a large effect on the developing mind? It is more socially acceptable now.
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>>683401835
and you forget the arguments that have been put forward here: hardly many gays existed then and gender fluid teens did NOT exist at all back then.
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>>683395087
>>683397017
Calling it because of the antibaby pill. Women take it, piss the female hormones out and make men gay or transsexual. Good thing mommy gave me bottled water and not that contaminated shit, as well as telling me not to drink it.
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For the first time in Human History entire generations of human beings are able to fully express themselves in a secure environment. This is leading to a huge shift in perceptions about our entire identities.

Most likely this is just the beginning. With a possible rise in cybernetics, VR, and bio-engineering. 100 years from now, our entire species might be radically different.
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>>683397546
Because you knew everyone's sexual orientation of course and they couldn't possibly have kept it to themselves until not in such a clearly homophobic environment.
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>>683402695
The water in our system being contaminated, that is.
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It existed before. Homosexuality did. So did feminine males and masculine females. Homosexuality though was a thing known about long before as opposed to the latter.

Do you want to know what we called the latter? A fucking tomboy.

Wanna know what gender-fluidity is? Something that does not exist. Gender is not a fucking emotional state. "Sad" does not hold the same weight as "male" in the same way that "pissed" does not equal "star", which is something that actually does exist in the world of retarded "otherkin" bullshit. What these people fail to understand is that *gasp*, almost all guys have some feminine side and almost all girls have some masculine side, so long as the word "feminine" = "emotional", which is what it is often portrayed as when there is nothing abnormal about being in touch with your fucking emotions, and "masculine" = "depressed", which I have often also seen it portrayed as when there is nothing abnormal about being fucking depressed.

So, wanna know what these fucking people essentially are? What "emos" turned into. They are literally a bastardized, corrupted, and even more obnoxious branch in the same tree as "emos", in that they're what they've turned into: A bunch of SJW, hipster, sexually confused adolescents or manchildren who played on the idea of trends, in the same way emos did, and made it more broad so as to include everybody into a massive orgy of pity-partying and ironic hatred of people who hate certain stereotypical people, by stereotyping said people. Namely white, straight males, despite the fact that of the entire population of white, straight males, the ones they hate the entire group of based on stereotypes, are the ones who hate women doing everything, hate every single black person, hate any kind of foreigners, gays, etc; very little of which fit said stereotypes, at least in actuality. I can spew the word "nigger" a million times on every site I have ever visited. It does not mean I hate all black people.
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>>683402695
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>>683403082
I think its a mix of those enhancing each other. Not that freedom to express yourself is bad, but the other two really piss me off. Emos are pathetic, and I threw in the argument with the pill myself.
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>>683402819
>cybernetics, VR, and bio-engineering.
Is this a good vision of the future in your eyes?
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>>683403754
emos make the best kind of music so don't hate on them.

Vid related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YxaaGgTQYM
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>>683403862
Hell yeah. I can get my brain uploaded into a cybernetic body and become the pretty little girl I am on the inside and go on a fuck spree till I kill by oversexing them.
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>>683403955
Niggah, I listen to some of their music, heavy metal, as well as rap (aka nigger music) myself. Doesn't mean I can dislike their behavior and/or lifestyle.
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>>683403082

Oh.
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>>683403994
That's not going to happen, sorry.
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I love it. First homosexuality was normalised, then transgenderism was normalised.

There's only one taboo to go after that and personally, I can't wait for paedophilia to be normalised.

Bring it on, I sawy!
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>>683406277
It never will. Because sex with someone who cannot consent will always be illegal.
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>>683407097

They can consent. It's just not legally valid.

Put it into perspective. What's more questionable. A 20 year old fucking a 17 year old, or a 56 year old fucking an 18 year old?
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>>683406277
What about sex with animals?
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>>683395087

Answer: the internet. Just as weirdo misfit racists and autistics had to suffer in marginalized silence before, the internet has given them an online community. Now they can express themselves without fear of judgment. Same thing with gender-fluid people. The internet shows them that they're not alone, that there are millions like them.
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>>683407386
>A 20 year old fucking a 17 year old
there is nothing wrong with this.

In fact Germany has the age limit down to 14 which in my opinion is too young.

I'd say 16 is the appropriate consenting age as UK has it as.

I still find it funny how if you receive nude images from a 17 year old - you can face up to 10+ years in prison as these images are labelled as cp.

>yet all you faggots engage in illegal kik activities
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>>683395087
It's to do with the much more widespread acceptance of homosexuality. When it's completely equal to heterosexuality people don't have to hide. But no one would have come out under homophobic laws, like section 28 in the uk
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>>683395087
I say this as a straight, white, backwards and non-feminist male: gender and sexual orientation aren't the same thing. Gay men are still men. They don't think they aren't dudes.
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>>683408238

Yes, I find 16 appropriate too. Here in the US though, most states don't allow it to fly like that. If a 56 year old fucks an 18 year old they will get off with no problem. If a 20 year old fucks a 17 year old they have committed statutory rape which is often a felony, and end up in the sex offender registry.
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>>683408521
Oh, and 15+ years in prison.
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>>683408521
>>683408596
I am surprised no men ever speak against this.

>I guess due to the fear of the backlash and being emailed viruses with cp

BUT fucking seriously, if we wanna make a difference - i.e. banging someone JUST ONE YEAR below 18 is considered cp and deserves a life sentence... seriously people ought to do something about this
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>>683395087

it's has something to do with the diminished Y chromosome that is happening. Eventually humans will reach natural extinction due to it, but there's not too much research because it's a relatively new subject and not really that relevant currently.
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>>683408481
>Gay men are still men. They don't think they aren't dudes.
why the fuck do gay men then dress up as women and act feminen?

The way I see it: there are 2 types of gays: the straight gays (who are as manly as ever with liking muscular chunky guys) and the gay girly gays (who are into feminine guys who act like females).

So why not fuck a female? Unless you are into traps - which in my opinion I consider those into shemales/traps as mostly straight - women with big tits with a dick? It's still mostly straight.
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>>683408921
What about the other person who stated that the universe is making us more gay due to overpopulation?

I think this could be correct. Nature is smart with sorting things out if Evolution has taught us that many animal have been born and created - therefore nature could be the reason making more people gay in 2016.

As well as the brainwashing of seeing gay people on the tv.
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It's the porn industry that did it.

A generation of guys that grew up watching other dudes jack off their dick on girl's faces, you'd think more than a few of them would turn gay.
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>>683408781

>fear of backlash

That IS it. Nobody wants to be labelled as someone who sympathizes with child molesters, when a 17 year old isn't even really a "child" by most peoples' standards. Speaking out against it means your life is likely to be ruined.

It IS changing though. But it's not a loud, widely publicized change. In my state for example (West Virginia), the age of consent actually was, within the past few years I think, dropped to 16.
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>>683409158
Even if the age is dropped; it is still illegal to record anything of a 17 year old and send it online so all be aware of that.

But yes, the only way I guess to make a difference is to do an "Anonymous thing" (fuck I hate those SJW's so much).
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>>683409312

That is another reason. SJWs are going to shit all over it and call it rape regardless. They are irrational and there is nothing you can do to convince them otherwise because to them, sex in general is usually considered rape. That's just the culture that's popped up from all the tumblr-esque bullshit.
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>>683409099
I am a straight guy who loves seeing girls fucked and cummed on (I cannot watch lesbian porn and never got why people watch it because when I watch porn I imagine that I am that guy fucking the girl).
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>>683397017
are you from Australia?
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>>683409456
What about the case of a female teacher who had sex with a 16 year old boy? Was in the news before.

That female teacher faced like so many years in prison.. despite the boy's grades going up, him feeling so good about himself with getting with a hot teacher.
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I am of the opinion that Homo Sapiens as a species doesn't really give much of a shit about sexual preference, it comes down to culture. It's the only explanation I have for why various societies throughout history embrace or reject homosexuality. Those which embrace it have it in truckloads. Those that don't, don't. Look at the Sacred Band of Thebes (150 pairs of male lovers). They were overrun by Philip of Macedon and even Philip afterward told his men that not a single bad word should be said about the Band because every single one had died with their wounds in the front.

So sexually I don't think we care as a species. Other species will engage in same-gender sex because you wanna cum anyway and hey look there's a hole. No reason we shouldn't.

So that said, what about transgenderism? Well, some studies have found that bathing the fetus in abnormal hormones leads to brain changes which do indeed seem to show differing pathways in the brain. To me this says that it's a disease, not something the person can help. Trans folks tend to be pretty miserable- they aren't happy with their body and they aren't really happy with their new half-body either. I can't really blame them for it.

But I think about it akin to a teratogenic disease, in which case it isn't the person's fault at all. You don't blame someone for having been born blind. You do what you can to help them become full, active members of society as much as possible. You don't even need to pity them- they're people just like you.

And who really fucking cares? I mean, seriously, how does someone else wanting to change their gender really affect you? The only thing I hate is all the bullshit pronouns people are trying to come up with now. Christ, thank god our language isn't like German where every damn word has an associated gender which everything is conjugated around.

But if a male-to-female goes through everything, they don't identify as trans, they identify as female.
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>>683409456
>sex in general is usually considered rape.
This is so sad. Even a 23 year old hitting on a 19 year old college girl to SJW's consider it rape. FUCKING WHAT!?

Also I was recently watching a video on a youtube girl stating how if anyone calls her beautiful, she considers it sexual harassment.
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>>683409711
When was it? And is here an article link?

The age in WV was just dropped some time in 2015. I don't know about other states.
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>>683409964
idk I was reading it on /b/ before don't know where it was.

Reminds me of that Adam Sandler movie "That's My Boy" as similar thing happened lol
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>>683409912
con't

And if they identify as female, it's no skin off my nose to refer to them as "she." But this xi bullshit pisses me right the fuck off.

And for what it's worth, man back when I was in school half the fucking kids thought they were gay or bi or trans. Mainly bullshit. But I knew a boy and a girl in middle school that very, very definitively knew they were gay, and here over twenty years later they both still are. And my grandmother was a lesbian married to a man for a while, popped out a couple of kids, then left him to be with hardcore bulldykes. That's what she liked, and you know what? My grandmother loved powertools and could kick the shit out of your grandmother. She was fucking awesome.
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>>683410211
The argument here is not that being gay is a choice - because I know with 100% confidence there are gays who do exist who have always been gay.

But my main point is that MORE and MORE gays have suddenly emerged during this decade when decades ago there was hardly any gays at school such as my school.
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>>683410351
And my point is that it's a social construct. I think homo sapiens is bi by default. I think that a combination of social pressures and things we are exposed to in life tend to push us one way or the other. Sorry if that got lost in the rant.
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>>683410138

I couldn't tell you then. All I know that happened recently that was local was that case in Steubenville, Ohio that was big. The girl that was raped was from my city. It was actually that case that probably spurred WV to drop the age of consent again (since they had dropped it to 17 a year or two prior), even though it had nothing to do with an adult having consensual sex with a minor.
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>>683410502
sorry you had a massive wall of text and I find reading comments on /b/ that are quick and short easier (sorry if I sound lazy).
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Anecdotle evidence:
I went to school with a few fags, there in their late 20's, and the ones I'm still mates with think this gender fluid stuff is basically bullshit.
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some faggots wanna be the most unique special snowflake so they make up this genderfluid shit so they can feel like they're special
maybe it seems like there's more faggots now because it's more socially acceptable to experiment with the same sex, and some people who are bi may have found at that they do like fucking the same sex
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>>683411073
this.

I went to an all boys school in the late 90's and only ONE person turned out to be gay and one bi. Not one gender fluid.

I have like 50 guys who went to that school on facebook (yes I have been meaning to delete them and get rid of fucking facebook) and looking at all their profiles, all have girlfriends, are straight, none have any boyfriends or post gay stuff (apart from some supporting LGBT rights but then still they have girlfriends themselves and fuck a lot of chicks).
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>>683397017
But how many are attention seeking special snowflakes.
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>>683397856
exactly. i was in high school in the early 2000's and emo was all the rage, as in, you could not a avoid it even on the internet. a decade or so later and this is just the latest social craze for young people.
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>>683395087
Isn't it obvious? It's because of 4chan.
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>>683395087
http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47&ch=24&l=40#x
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>>683413664
what the feck is that link?
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>>683413994
copy the url into a search engine
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>>683414284
too scared
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>>683398351
Same
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>>683414680
same here
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>>683414471
http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=68&ch=3&l=5#x
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>>683409509
Same
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>>683414795
I fucking hate you sooooo much
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>>683416300
It's hot isn't it? Those tits and body with a dick
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>>683414795
SAUCE
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>>683416577
sorry I am still cooking it. come back later
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>>683414471
it was some kind of bible stuff
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>>683416363
I hate you all , now I can't even tell what male or female anymore.
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>>683416769
you will never be the same again
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>>683403082
Write a book, nigga. You need to take back this world from the tidal wave of retardation.
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>>683417207
we already have a savior
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Does anyone actually have any stats on this or is everyone gonna just say
>back when i was in school people were like this and now theyre like that
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>>683417584
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/intriguing-reason-why-there-are-now-more-gays-and-lesbians-australia031214/

http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/1146717-there-more-gay-people-now-than.html

A lot realize how many more there are now than 10 years ago
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>>683400123
>Turns out she'd been gay the whole time and was hiding it all along until she no longer could

Husband your dick is too small.
Goes off to find woman with a large dildo.
Twice the amount of period blood
Woman 0 - Men 2
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>>683395087
estrogen in your food
/thread
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>>683401065
this is an interesting point, but the thing is straight people will continue to overpopulate the planet as well as creating more gays
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>>683420369
false. after all, straight marriage is hardly happening anymore, stuff too like aids is gonna help sort a lot out as well and cut down population
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>>683420666
Satan has spoken
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>>683420666
Dubs thread reporting in, checking Satan
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>>683414284
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>>683420666
the only sort of equilibrium would be the amount of mexican kids being born against the number of africans dying from aids.
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>>683420928
did somebody say mexican?
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>>683395087
Because the world is generally more open-minded and accepting than it was and these people now feel safe enough to admit they're some variety of faggot. Not only that, but the internet's very nature allows them to find a hugbox full of others like themselves. Not that hard to figure out.
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>>683395087
It's hip to be a faggot
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>>683421417
looks like you came to the thread late.

read this
>>683397546

and this
>>683411409

and reply to it
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While not discounting any previous theories espoused ITT, I would like to proffer one also. This is not based on conjecture, but on many thousands of years of human experience and experiments in human consciousness. I realize that many in the West are not acquainted with the idea of Monism, or non-duality; but it is a common theme in many Eastern traditions. It requires a different way of thinking about 'things', but may offer a solution out of this 'problem'.
Consider this: Say that There IS No Separation (Science has proved this), there Is No Difference between any one 'thing' and any 'other' 'thing'. Say there is no such thing as 'things', or of 'other'. There is only the ISness of everything. Say that you, I, and everything, ARE that Infinite 'thing', and that 'thing' (for lack of a better term right now in explanation to the West) is Infinite, meaning it's center is everywhere, yet nowhere to be found. Let's call it consciousness, or whatever else we want, but let's not confuse this with Agency, Entity, God, Goddess, Male, Female, Animal, Plant, Mineral, Human, etc.. You get the idea. We place 'Identity' on this illimitable sea of consciousness the same way we identify an individual wave in the ocean. It comes and it goes like clothing, like a death shroud, but that is not the 'real' Self! We can identify with the Infinite Ocean of possibilities, or some narrow band of experience. This is NOT to say that Gender is a social construct. It is not. Social structures derive from gender identity and interaction. I am merely, yes radically, saying that mayhaps All Is Verb! There Are No Nouns! Maybe neither Shiva nor Shakti 'exist', yet All of existence is the interaction between these two polarities; just as one magnet has two poles, and an area of relatively chaotic influence.
I don't want to lose you in this thought process, and I know I've already written too much...
So,
tl;dr Alan Watts, Trika Rahasya, Monism
>the more you know
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Because it's hip to be square
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>>683421607
Damn dude, I don't know what you're smoking, but I haven't yet had my wake'n'bake, and I already feel like I'm on acid /b/ro! Don't be breakin' Alan Watts out this early on /b/tards! We want to wallow in our separation here, nigger!
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>>683396487
This combined with contaminated water. There's probably slightly more tendency towards male homosexuality now due to exposure to female hormones but it's just fringe groups on the internet getting traction and they're way louder than the norm.

Plus you get yelled at now if you act 'normal'. You get coddled if you're not normal.
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>>683422153
Read it and weep.
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>>683395087

out of all the people I've ever met only an extremely small minority identify as 'genderqueer', they aren't really a threat to anything but craft beer

but really, who can blame them? our society has changed rapidly in the past 30 years. we are afforded luxuries and can espouse new ideas regarding our place in the universe and our world that many others (are currently fighting) for and against.

also keep in mind how much the internet influences our perceptions of the world, and how others use the internet to do so

>>683397546
>>683411409

people are more accepting of queer theory?
maybe facebook isn't the best place for demographics studies?
young people follow trends, try out new things?

I don't know, we could be trading anecdotal evidence all morning but in the end everybody's experience is different

>>683421607
>>683422153

>alan watts

my niggas
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>>683395087
ATTENTION PEOPLE OF B THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT NOW FUCKING NOW DILDO TREASURE HUNT


>>683421992
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>>683423360
Remember how Buddhism changed the whole world? (Unfortunately, much has been lost, because religionists fucked it all up with their 'entities', including Buddhist religionists)...
Maybe it is time for a new uprising of non-duality! Wanna help? Keep doing what you're doing. This will spread like wildfire! Separation is no match (kek) for our kind. And by kind, I mean Compassion. Above All, ENJOY! Acceptance IS the Answer.
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>>683421607
THIS SO MUCH!
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>>683424003
When all else fails, divert attention away from the 'real'.
Works almost every time!
Just not in the Here & Now, This Time!
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>>683400123
Ah, but my confirmation bias says otherwise, so you're wrong.
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>>683421607
>>683422153
>>683423360
>>683424344
mindfuck
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>>683425279
>mindfuck
That is the nature of mind, my friend!
ENJOY!
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>>683395087
because of modern digital social communications, every faggot thinks their a celebrity

They all think they're special snowflakes

>Everyone wants to distance themselves from Heterosexual white male.
The further you are away, the more victim points you have.

The King/Queen of the victims is a Jewish, ginger, pansexual, transgender, A-sexual, African & Native American dwarf in a wheelchair.

/pol/ was right
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>>683425702
Wouldn't it be great though if /pol/ & Tumblr had a FuckFest?
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>>683425997
Nah.
That's almost exactly what /b/ is nowadays!
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Tolerance and apathy are the last gasps of a dying nation

>What we term as 'liberal' belief leads to loss of nationality and civil unrest

conservative-disciplined-traditonal societies with a strong identity of nationalism/tribalism tend to prosper
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>>683425997
I'm a /pol/ack who's literally banging a qt AZN tumblerina.

she's not a feminist and is always cleaning my condo.

And a complete slut in the bedroom and uses tumblr to look at porn
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>>683426236

well lets hope you're still around after 'the fall' to guide the unbridled masses to utopia
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>>683426501
It's more likely poverty and civil unrest would lead to dictatorial rule under a populist leader.
>Saddam
>Ghadaffi
>Assad

a consent to be ruled over. ie fascism (and possibly nationalism+socialism)

>obviously it can also happen to prosperous nations like Singapore via reward mentality
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>>683426501
Kek
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>>683395087
Maybe because being gay isn't looked down upon any more, so why not try it out.
Personally I think most people are bi and decide to be strictly hetero.
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Its been going that way since the late 80's spread widely thru the 90's(UN and Clinton Administration, Labour/Greens in GB and Labor/Green in Australia} it was ridiculous back then just as it is now. It was obvious things were going to get weirder thats why the some of us people back then felt their was something not right with the Political correct movement in the 90's All the groups they representated ARE the same freaks you have
today. As we expected.
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>>683397813
>we will extinct because someday every man on earth will become gay
lol
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Every TV show has gays. Think about modern pop music and soaps operas.

It's life imitating art

>Every TV show also has male genital mutilation and interacial-relationships. It's like it a requirement for being commissioned

they're sick cunts
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>>683427142
Many years of media repeating the mantra of equality and freedom was nice at first but as we knew then it was a cover for what they really wanted a complete removal of traditional roles and concepts.And now the Islamic terrorist pray upon this same empathy defect the leftwing exploited in all of us. this is the result of them betraying our sympathies to minorities and those they todls us were being DISCRIMINATED against.
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>>683421607
>there Is No Difference between any one 'thing' and any 'other' 'thing'.
Sounds a whole lot like Communism to me, you filthy Red fuck.
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