>>683356408
easier until it comes time to give birth n take care of a kid, then the table turns

>>683356408
They can just marry some rich guy and be set for life.

>>683356792
In America.
What about countries where women have shit rights?

>>683356756
Cos men dont care for kids.

>>683356864
You mean muslim countries? Any women in a western country has a far easier life than men in western countries. In Muslim countries its the complete opposite though.

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They have it easier but their quality of life is worse.

>>683356756
also because child birth is the single most difficult thing done ever by anyone.

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>>683356408
Here in the west cause of all this SJW bullshit they are wanting more pay for less work, never disagree with them or prove them wrong or your racist hell don't even look at them. They have is easy with being hired for quotas and shit.

Worse yet they have to blame everyone else and never take responsibility.

>>683357092
What? Fucking really? Painful yes. Difficult no.

>>683356408
Easier, free shit. Literally a woman just has to say I want to fuck you and like you then bam. Financial security for life, always given the benefit of the doubt to.

>>683358072
Not most painful either. Ask any woman who has had children and kidney stones which was worse. Stones are hell.

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>>683358121
Dont forget to get more money by saying he raped me. Get proven wrong? The public will be on your side and you will only get a maximum 3 years in jail, then you can right a book on how you were wronged.

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They have it different. Some things will be easier or harder depending on what it is and where they are in the world.

>>683358121
Grow up.

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>>683356408

It's harder being a girl, look at all the extra stuff guys get

>>683356408
Hot women - easier
ugly women - harder

its really that simple

>>683359010
How many ugly women are lonely compared to guys?

Ugly women can get laid whenever they want, start a family or find a boyfriend. Can't say the same for all the lonely neckbeards out there.

>>683357034
you use muslim countries as if all muslim countries are the same.

amazing how fucking clueless you retards are about the world. No shit in the middle east countries like Iraq and Saudi Arabia, women have it worse. However try Turkey for instance where women have significantly more equality then they do in the US, Canada, Britain, (insert predominantly white european country here)

seriously can retarded fucks like you just stop talking and spreading your misinformation and idiocy already

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>>683357892
I think there's a point in here somewhere, but your inability to write an intelligible sentence is just painful.

>>683359529
>Turkey
>More equality than US, Canada, Britain, (insert predominantly white european country here)
Your bait is weak.

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>>683357089
How is their quality of life worse?

>>683358626
Spotted the triggered spineless Bernie boner

>>683357892
This comment has done nothing but prove that you are incapable of proving anyone wrong about anything. It is highly unlikely that a world exists where anyone gets paid less than you.

>>683356408
There are economic problems caused by child birth. I also know a lot of the (I worked for everything I have) people. In reality are taught there trades by there father. I don't know of any women who was taught a trade by there father. Slightly longer life expectancy, less drug usage, less booze. That's good. Less smoking, less violence and prison. Wow all those things are probably from drugs and booze. Financially and in sports though, Women are always separated in sports yet if they just grew up playing sports with men I think that would be different.
When you have people just rambling off thread style you're not going to get accurate answers. This thread does not comply with an adequate scientific method.

>>683359529
I went to turkey once. I saw a man beating a horse violently, A women looked at him and he screamed mind you're fucking business wench (in English) there must've been a hundered people around like it was normal. Wait this was Jordan but same thing

>>683357092
horse shit.

>>683356408

women easily at least in developed countries.

any woman can easily become rich selling panties and doing can shows if they have any amount of business sense.

if they don't they can just trap a dude and be set.

I'd def swap

>>683356408
As in all things, it's situational.
Only a sith deals in absolutes my friend.

>>683356408
Most women that I've met seem smarter than men. On average yet men are more likely to be manager/supervisor. Men don't know how to bathe on a regular basis (seems dumb but I swear to god men quit bathing by 35 if not earlier. Don't brush teeth just bad hygiene

>>683357092
No I'm sure child birth is difficult but there are a lot of things worse. There is the fact that child birth is incredibly difficult and most women only women will have to go through it.
Child birth just seems similar to dealing with an injury in a lot of ways.

>>683363733
It would be much easier here in the 1st world, but I dunno man I still wouldn't swap. I like being sane.

>>683363733
This is not a valid argument. You cannot possibly consider this as logical. I think you might want to go find a specialist.
To say that women have it easy they can just sell panties and do cam shows is just like saying men have it easy they can just go rob people or sell drugs.

>>683364999
You do realize you compared a legitimate way to earn money to something illegal right? Not even in the same group.

>>683357092
The pregnancy process would put women at a significant financial and employability disadvantage. Getting pregnant twice within three years. Probably not going to keep your job as far as most business owning americans considered. (they're fucktards that were given businesses by their daddies)

>>683356408
>am a man
> expected to pick up bills on first dates
>always have to make first move
>tfw getting rejected and being called creepy when you're "being yourself and 'confident'"
>having to go out and do it again
>knowing you're gonna have to work your ass off to support your family
>feminist posts how oppressed she is
>wtf .jpeg
>wife spends most of the income you earn
>complains on the internet about how hard life is for her
>outlives you

yeah def easier being male

>>683365501
selling panties and doing cam shows are not legitimate businesses your just an idiot trying to present completely ridiculous arguments. The fact that one is legal and the other not is completely irrelevant in this case. Go tell a women to sell used panties and do cam shows next time she seems like she needs money see what happens.

>>683365501
What group are you talking about

>>683365837
I think that collectively you and your wife are just not managing your money well and that children are expensive. The other things are pretty rough though

>>683365837
I know man, we got it easy.

>>683365866
Sure it's relevant. When an act is illegal you are dissuaded from doing it or you will be punished like when you made the example to go rob or sell drugs.

Plus you won't be doing your taxes under "drug dealer and mugger"

>>683363733
Is this bait to start an argument, are you too young to be on this site, or are you an idiot.
Sorry man you're not an idiot. You shouldn't say things like that though it isn't socially acceptable for women to have to do those things and it isn't acceptable to think that it is a reasonable way for a women to make money.

>>683356408
>Do girls have it easier or harder than boys?
>Discuss.

Wouldn't say easier, wouldn't say harder. Just different. In the western first world countries. Elsewhere, it's shit but differently.

approved

>>683366302
Not married newfag. kys

>>683366769
So you think that it is reasonable for a women to sell panties and do internet cam shows for money. Please quit using the internet

>>683365866
Weeell, considering the tons of sluts on instagram (or basically, the internet) ,, its not that far-fetched to do a cam-show for money..

I dont know about the panties,, but doing "porn" for money as last resort , even if its just doing nudes, as a last resort..ye i can see thah happen.

I mean i know a girl, who did porn,, for money , and she was a pretty middel-upper class girl,, and for connections.. So ye, if you look good and dont look at porn like its evil, its easy..specially with all that ask a pornstar videos nowadays

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>>683367069
Gril spotted

Guys literally... Go to work to support their family, come home and watch tv and drink a few beers, then maybe have sex with their lives.

I wouldn't want it any other way.

>>683367104
So you think that women have it easier because they can sell used panties, do cam shows, and do porn for money. You clearly do not have any business sense. That is just fucking retarded you are either about the age of 13 or need mental help.
You do not have a job this is obvious

>>683367712
Make clear >>683367104
was not me.
But like he said people do it for money. The point I'm trying to make is doing cam shows wont land you in jail while mugging somebody will.

>>683367104
Your parents literally failed at raising you and you will never amount to anything in the real world. The only reason you think that about (the internet) is because all you do is lurk the internet looking for porn while the rest of the world is working.

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Women enjoy legal superiority, less punishments and likelihood of conviction for the same crimes, greater social power from the legal superiority of motherhood over fatherhood.

Schooling is set up to benefit female students vastly over the boys. There are regular quotas in STEM subjects for female candidates despite an unequal number of applicants.

Women are more desirable employees in STEM due to their PR value for feminism.

Women are generally not expected to be part of the draft in most of the world. Women almost never face conscription.

Far more public spending is directed to women's well-being, shelters and health by a wide margin.

Society sees women as victims by default in cases of mutual partner violence or any other mutual aggression involving a male.
Nah man the patriarchy makes it super easy for men and gives them free shit.

Life is easier for women across the board.
That's what comes with the territory of less freedom.
Less responsibility.
Women in third world countries that are bought and sold have literally no real responsibilities other than be a functional human being.
Women in first world countries that are "their own woman" are given full power to force anyone to do what they want, then they can sit down and get fat.
Women have time to stare in the mirrors at their beauty. Real men don't.
Men have to crawl in shit holes and get things done, and usually something doesn't need getting done until it's way harder to do it than it should be.
A woman can just cry when things get too hard. A man must make things work. A man has no option but to keep it moving.
I'm not sure if men don't develop the emotional issues women do because of this, or men are just hardwired to not be emotional nuts.

>>683368345
Yes but it is still not something that a self respecting person would do. People can't do things like that then go home and tell there husbands what they did at work. It would just result in failed relationships

>>683367712
Hmm, i especially said if you look pretty, and okay with doing porn.. And said its not out of the question

But ye that girl i talked about... Well she wont have money problems, unless she burns her money.. And porn didnt left never healing scars on her either..

What, i would say doing porn today as a girl is a viable carrer chooice, you can even talk on youtube whats your fav cock size (oh i dont carr much about these btw, just saying)

>>683368387
Nice ad hominem fallacy https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

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>>683365837
>>tfw getting rejected and being called creepy when you're "being yourself and 'confident'"

>>683356792

then why are so many women unattractive

like, the fuck? All you have to do to be a successful woman is *be fucking hot*. Hell even if you want a fucking career, being hot is 10x as good as being competent.

>>683356792
what if they aren't pretty

>>683359529
turkey is technically secular, nice b8 made me reply

>>683368612
The third world, along with the historical world, has sent their men to die before suffering harm to their women.
Don't mistake their protection for inferior status across the board.

>>683369041
They can leech off of an average joe, instead.
Maybe work as a cleaner or some shit in the years she has to while he earns his average salary for average work.

>>683368662
Self respecting or not its still a legal choice they can make. While selling drugs on the street can also cause a failed relationship and jail time.

Just learn from this and next time you try to compare the two genders make sure that both choices to make money are legal to be even on the field.

>>683365837
>Unmarried man complains about how terrible wives are.

>>683369703
Wives are one of the main reasons men kill themselves, anon.

Women don't have a boner, men do

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>>683368898
her upper lip never moves down

>>683369853
>Anon states unverifiable 'facts' to supplement actual information or argument.

>>683365837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCZIO68XXxk

>>683356408
>Do girls have it easier or harder than boys?

Look at suicide rates.
Look at homelessness raes
Look at unemployment rates.

Life for boys and men is far, far tougher than it is for women.

All women need to check their privilege.

>>683356964
Men are too busy Manning Up and working to death to pay for those kids.

>>683357092
Nice B8

>>683370808
Divorce and suicide, stats everywhere.

jech.bmj<dot>com/content/54/4/254.abstract?ijkey=11dc18448af2e0d037cb9ef19c795badb5e4d322

>>683356408

femanon here. you sound like disgusting human beings, and I would never bf you or even have you as friends. you would probably realise that i'm too pretty for you anyway, and I guess that you wouldn't even dare speaking to me IRL

also, I'm not posting tits, because i have the right to post on this website without getting slut shamed. also, i'm an oldfag and i know that that rule does only apply to attention whores

>>683364015
Let me guess: you were raped.

>>683372481
Here's your reply, fag

>>683362978
Kek

>>683356408
In all tangible and measurable ways, women have it far easier.

In their world of social pressures, self-created stigmas, and psychological/emotional triggers they have manufactured a world without basis in material reality in which they are being attacked from all sides at all times.

>>683364015
Shit tier bait. Kill yourself

>>683368887
It was clearly an argument where moral character was relevant and was not a fallacy in the context.
His argument was that women have it easier because they can do porn, sell panties, and be a cam whore for money. No reasonable person is going to suggest that a women do those things for money and, no reasonable person is going to do those things for money.

>>683372481
>summerfag detected

>>683369610
Ok then men can sell panties, do porn, and be a cam whore too. Now your argument is worthless because it applies equally to men.

>>683372666
Your comment leads me to believe that any choice or decision you make in life is simply a guess.

>>683372481
Thank you these people are ridiculous. I find it hard to believe that these people are the people that are responsible for making decisions in the world today but they are. People are fucked.

>>683373107
Much harder to get into porn as a guy... But ye im not the one who advised selling panties, but i guess if you somehow get a supply of them, sure

Altho, i think he ment as in sell "your" panties to ppl who are into that

>>683373107

There's no money in it for men. Men get paid shit compared when it comes to porn.

>>683373107
but it doesn't, it's like being a stripper,
as a female, it's a totally viable option as long as you aren't shit ugly
as a male, unless you're channing tater-tot body type, you won't survive as a stripper
same thing applies to all that shit, chicks don't need to be top-tier to become a pornstar or camgirl, if a dude has anything less than a 7 inch dick, he literally just won't be successful in his field, unless they do really niche gay shit

>Just because men can do it too doesn't make it as viable an option

>>683356408
This thread is verified proof that women have it harder.

>>683372878
He attacked and only attacked his character suggesting his parents failed him and all he does is lurk on the internet.

Didn't even try to disprove his argument.

>>683372332
>Divorce and suicide
>A study
better

And since i know your next move ill skip a step and include the statistic 70% of divorces are initiated by women.

But the reason for more divorces is because women are less happy when married than men.

Your argument is now "Women should continue to be less happy and stay married so that men will kill themselves less."

>>683369027
Not in STEM fields

>>683356408

Depends really, both have it harder than the other in some ways and easier than the other in other ways

>>683373762
You found one industry where women get paid more than men and that is it. Someone state to me why women have it easier actual reasons.

>>683357092
Are we speaking of birthing a child or of raising one? If we are speaking solely of birthing a child then I'd say rasing one requires significantly more effort, if we are talking about raising and birthing a child I would say it is indeed incredibly difficult and good parents deserve to be commended, however I still believe that there are harder things, such as coal mining, have you seen that shit? Coal mining is pretty fucking hard

>>683373993
Yes I did scroll up

>>683356408
If they're pretty, life is on easy mode.

If they're ugly, they have it harder.

Well, except for the dating life.... which is ALWAYS better for any woman than it is for a beta (and/or) ugly male.

See, the thing is no matter how ugly the woman (unless if she's crippled, deformed, or retarded), there will ALWAYS be men willing to date/bang her. And there comes a point, where if a guy isn't suave, sociable, or attractive enough that NO women will pay attention to him. And honestly, this might not even be an ugly weird dude. Just a guy that's too quiet or not boistrous enough.

In the dating life, men have it worse. In every other facet, being an ugly woman is quite a bit more of a disadvantage than an ugly male.

The reason is virtually every assessment of a woman's value (in the corporate world or in society) hinges largely on a woman's attractiveness. The most attractive women will easily be first picked in their fields of employment and the first desired by successful men.

>>683356408
I'm going to use an analogy here. I'm a competitive weightlifter. For me to be the best in the world right now or even decent, I have to squat around 650-700lbs, deadlift between 700-800, and bench press about 450-500lbs. For a girl in the same weight class the figures are 300-400, 400-500, and 200-300.

Now take this and apply it to everything else in life. School, work, dating, friends.

>>683373993
Hmm ye i wanted to reply like thx, now i can imagine, what it would feel like to argue with a feminist...

"Hurrdurr you suck, hurrdurr blabla" hit you kick you, you hit back, you go to jail

Its just i dont really give a fuck about that comment, but ye i just said its a POSSIBLE option, and ye the girl i talked about did porn FOR money and is happy,

Anyway reasoning my ass, you cant reason when it about the whole thing, ye lets reason they kill his/her entire family, who got it better....

>>683373993
Assuming you are a reasonable human being did you see what his arguments were for women having it easier. They were women can sell used panties, they can do cam shows, and they can do porn. That is by no means a reasonable argument to why women have it easier and is an example of a time when it is of importance to attack his character because to be honest with you something has to be done to change his way of thinking regardless of the logical argument that was actually occurring.

>>683357092
>implying they don't just get c-sections
Women can't even have children right these days

>>683373896
Fuck you it is. It's been highjacked by losers using porn as their argument. Woman have shit easier for sure. Anyone who has worked and lived a little knows this. The faggots on here just can't articulate it.

>>683374324
Just read the thread and don't pretend that these don't count because reasons:
>>683372094
>>683368515
>>683357892 (the pic not the post)

>>683374166
Because working in STEM is the only way to be successful or have an easier life. Even then being more attractive DOES make you more employble

>>683374324

The point was that women have it easier financially. There are reasons why 80-90% of homeless people are male.

Men are way more likely to commit suicide. They are more likely to be victims of a crime. If they commit one they will receive harder punishment for the same crime as women.

Women are more likely to be employed.
Pretty fundamental points when it comes to life quality, no?

>>683373107
Men are often not paid for porn. It's usually volunteer work done for love of the sex. Either that or like 50 bucks. It's literally 1/10th the cash women get per scene.

Unless if it's a "big name" cock like Ron Jeremy or Max Hardcore or something. But honestly, male pornstars are mostly a thing of the past as the porn studs are usually interchangeable nobodies that just fulfill the purpose of having a dick.

And outside of sex work, there's a million and one jobs that women can make a lot of money at and men cannot. Waitressing, massage, secretary, or literally any eye candy type position.

Not to mention for the EXACT same job, women often get the light duty version of the same. For instance, in the post office, women often work the front desk and the guys are in the back loading 50 lbs bags into the trucks all day (this is usually the reason why men get paid more even if the job titles are the same, I guaran-fucking-tee you the male will ALWAYS be doing the heavy lifting).

>>683375216
I originally present arguments regarding men having higher rates or murder, prison, shorter life, suicide. I originally presented those. and still think that women have it harder.

>>683374071
Are they less happy bc they bang out a couple of kids and decide to never achieve anything again even when said kids go to school? The suicides rates are high bc of custodial arrangements. Woman get a free pass to their kids while fathers who have never done a thing to hurt their children are told they are no longer in their lives.

>>683375138
Attacking someone's character as an aversion to providing counterarguments within the actual discussion is never appropriate when trying to have a discussion. It just makes you look like you didn't know what to say so you reverted to logical fallacies and personal attacks.
If you want to prove a point, don't change the subject

>>683374324
But then, you could say thats one point for them on the easier side, not just ignore it all together

Like they got longer orgasm,, well that not necessarily easier,,, but

You dont have to make the first moves (altho you can if you want) blabla, everything counts

>>683356408
>TFW work out two hours a day
>TFW constantly do work

>TFW she is just born with huge boobs and can get all the shit I can

I'm not complaining, it's worth it for those HIUGGGGEEE tits
I'm just attention whoring a bit now.

>>683375858

On that crime not isn't it 1 in 3 women are going to be sexually assaulted at some point in their lives?

>>683362658
Plenty of women are taught trades by their fathers. Where do you think prostitutes come from? Do you still believe the prostitute fairy leaves them under the sex tree?

>>683374324
Affirmative action
Gender quotas in hiring
Equality regardless of experience
There's 3 reasons in the corporate world

>>683375860
Nope, women get paid less and are given less responsibility because of discrimination while growing up and in the workplace. Women don't need light duty women need equality. I'm not even going to consider sex industry that is just unreasonable. The fact that people are making the comments that they are is proof that discrimination is a problem women have to deal with.

>>683376178
Don't be a pussy

>>683375216
and what's your argument as to why they have it harder?
What rights does a man have in 2016 that a woman doesn't? And identify your gender while you're at it.

>>683375138
Hmm btw, im not the one who gave the idea of selling panties, i just expended on that com-show side (as in porn) that ye, its a viable option

But ye i already said in the other comment i dont care about that comment,, kinda nice to feel like when ppl talk about feminazis argue like that, i guess its its something like that, even if that post is not made by one,,

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>>683376705
>>683376318
The bait is strong in these ones

>>683367069
He never said it was reasonable. He said it was legal. He said you don't go to jail and get raped in the ass for selling your used panties.

>>683376318
Define sexual assault for that stat? Bc holding someone's hand can be sexual assault these days

>>683377189

Just had a look apparently for men it's 1 in ever 33

>>683377332

Groping, molestation, rape, digital rape etc

>>683376705
>Paid less because of discrimination
>Ignoring a 97 billion dollar industry because that's just unreasonable
Women aren't paid less than men for the same shit, find me one example
Not an example of women being paid less across the board at a company,
Not women earning less for working less,
Not women working different positions with different hours,
And without any glossing over of facts

I want a single example of women being paid less than men for the same position in the past ten years

>>683356408
attractive girls do yes but ugly girls have it far worse then boys

>>683376705
They get paid less because they are there less and negotiated lesser pay. Period. It's fucking illegal to pay someone less based on gender you retard.

>>683375138
Oh also, i said it in another comment, but blabla not reasonable blabla...

Or how about? Okay one point taken, girls can do that , Man,, not really, i didnt really asked anyone to "defend" my post or whatever, but ye i would say his right whatever post we would talk about..

Cause, ye, he(or she) could have just provided counter-arguments like "well porn for women is like...blabla" he/she didnt just ranting.. Thats that

Even at best, he/she is just as worse as the post he claims to be

>>683376388
That is significantly vague, the only one I can answer too is equalities regardless of experience. The fact that this problem exists is cycled into womens lives by not being raised as much by their fathers as much as their mothers.
Example
>Where I live is mostly farms, tradeshopes (machinists, mechanics, and a couple factories) No father is going to teach there daughter construction, auto repair, or even farming. It is just not the norm for parenting. You could easily say they could go to work with there moms but given that women are less likely to hold supervising position or trades significantly rules that out.
I do not know of any gender quotas in my community or any gender quota laws that exist. My last job was at an auto dealer there were about 40 people that worked there two were women.

>>683376318
>stare rape
>fart rape
all that sexual assault going on

>>683376705
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bu4CRiw9mg

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>>683377470
>digital rape
nice bait

>>683377925

Look up the definition

As a guy I do not give a shit.

women have it easier they can do porn to support them selfs to a point.and the fact that they can get anything because of their body or what they are willing to do

>>683377832

Actually a lot of these statistics are going back from 2003 - 2012 so I doubt many of them are the whole femnazi definitions of rape

>>683377011
lulz nigga, sorry for getting angry someone just said that then maid a point to be escessively ignorant afterwards and I got angry. I wasn't sure if I was dealing with a twelve year old that thought that or a thirty year old that thought that. I find it difficult to let people act like that.

>>683377470
Yes obviously those but, like I said, holding hands can be called assault in a random survey. As a man, I've been groped without consent plenty of times. I move on. 1/3 woman getting fingered/raped is total bullshit. It's like domestic violence cases are skyrocketing bc yelling at a woman can get a man charged with DV.

>>683376705
Yeah, here's the thing. Women DO need light duty. Obviously you've never had to deal with the simple reality of a woman working construction or pretty much anything industrial.

They have about half the lifting ability, often need someone to help them with duties that should be a 1 person job. You can not have the same physical demands of a woman as you have for a man. They ARE the weaker sex. And that's biology.

The problem with any egalitarian ideals is you start out with equality as some of god-given indisputable notion when the reality is that NO ONE is equal in any facet.

Women may be weaker physically, but they generally have more tact and social finesse (making them superior diplomats and office monkeys). This is just the way of the world.

And it accounts for why wages may differ. In the same job (for anything physical), I assure you that men are simply capable of more, they nearly always deliver more.

And I guarantee you women make more in jobs requiring tact and social finesses. Waitressing, being administrative assistants, nurses, psychiatry, or any type of sex work.

Honestly why are we complaining about wich privileged white sex has it better than the other?

>>683378270

It's still sexual assault anon, even if you don't see it as that extreme it is. Not the hand holding I think you're just reaching for an excuse there.

>>683368898
why do you dicks never gif the whole phrase being spoken? It's like you ALL really suck at lip reading, and that's hard to believe the entire fucking chaniverse can suck that hard.

>>683377925
finger rape friend

>>683377761
Have you recently experienced a traumatic injury to the head?

>>683356408
easier to do what?
Generally men have a higher ceiling and a lower floor. So that means women have it easier in that the shittiest man's life is much worse than the shittiest woman's life. But if you want to be extremely successful, wealthy, or powerful, being a woman becomes a detriment and it's easier to do if you're a man.
This is why people are sympathetic to women who complain about sexism and not men - a woman who complains about sexism is complaining that it's harder to be successful, she wants to succeed. A man complaining about sexism is a failure who's at the bottom of the ladder.

When are we going to start #Menimism movement? I want equality.

>>683377805
It doesn't exist in workplaces where you get your hands dirty. It's in boardrooms and the corporate world. Also emergency services and any male dominated industry that has stature. There is no push for females laying asphalt or mining coal. If you're a male and successful these days people say you only got there bc you're a man. Hard work is irrelevant in industries that want equality. Go check firefighters/police recruitment policy. Total bullsht

>>683378294
This is the exact type of discrimination that is causing the problem. You making this statement literally proves your argument wrong.

>>683378450
Ive seen it and I've heard of similar shit. Assault is based on how the person feels. If they FEEL violated then they have been.

>>683377512
Well there are examples, I think what you mean is examples where the company didn't get Sued or punished

>>683379734

Now days sure but it is pretty common for women to be sexually assaulted especially if they're little girls. Maybe less now days

>>683358121
this is more for attractive women, ugoes have it hard tho

>>683379341
That's not discrimination, it's just facts, and if you literally don't believe that, then go ahead and live your life believing everyone you meet is capable of the same things as anyone else you meet, remove all skill and talent, because those don't exist, and make sure to pretend that the only differences between males and females is in their genitals

>>683360665
lol
Also, "novel peace prize"

>>683379915
If women could do the same job for less money it would be financially irresponsible to hire men you total retard.

>>683360665
this perfectly sums it up, women have it worse, in unindustrialized countries

I like being a male. Don't need to apply make-up or suffer from periods etc. I probably feel stronger than they do, being less fragile thanks to testosterone. Besides, when women age they have to step off the pedestal.

>>683380160
Anyone trying to argue on the female side won't respond to facts or logic. This entire thread is bait. Masterful work, OP.

>>683356408
Lol how is this even a question?

Obviously women have it easier. Theres only three reasons women think they have it bad:

1. Theyre weaker, physically and emotionally. They have a far lower threshold for shit. My sister is a perfect example, fucking whines like a bitch when anything doesn't go her way.

2. They think abstractions, such as what people think of them in some pair of jeans, actually matters instead of focussing on what is tangible. This is because they're mentally ill usually.

3. They have no idea how bad men have it because the girl power movement from the past several decades has beat any gratitude out of them. Fuck. Literally everything that makes life comfortable is done by a man.

>>683380581
Dude the law exists for a reason. It happens but they get sued and forced to pay the correct amount. People do and can get screwed over and you're an idiot if you think companies don't sometimes break the law.

The idea that it's some widespread common thing companies do IS stupid because of exactly what you said.

>>683380739

Women don't need to apply make-up they choose to do it.

>>683379341
Are you trying to argue that men and women are equally capable? That there is no difference physically between the 2 sexes? Just trying to get a handle of how seriously to take your bullshit.

Depends on their goals. Having an easy life? Pretty girls have it easy. Becoming a lawyer? Harder for women.

>>683357892
>one count of grooming
You can go to jail for brushing someone's hair?

>>683380947
Exactly. 99.9% of what they think makes their lives difficult is just bullshit social convention.

>>683356408
Women have it easier in 1st world societies that do everything to protect and nurture them

Men have it easier in 3rd world conditions and Islamic cultures

>>683381474

At least for women in developed countries

>>683380928
No, you're wrong AGAIN. They can be less if a job has a negotiable wage. Statistically women negotiate lower wages than men. If the salary range is 90-100k you're allowed to pay one person 90k and another 100k for the EXACT same role, regardless of gender. The stats proveit man. What company would risk being sued for millions so they can pay someone 2000 less based in their gender?

Men are just better. Its fact. Call it whatever buzzword you want. There are some species of spider where the male role is to live for two weeks, long enough to get fucked by the larger female who lives much longer, gives birth, carries the babies, and does all the shit. The male spider doesn't bitch and moan about equality, he knows his place.

The foundation of this whole problem arises because everyone wants to believe people are equal regardless of things they cannot choose like race or gender.

The sooner people wake up and swallow that pill the better off we'll be.

>>683381931
Dude you can keep saying all you want what company would risk it. Companies break laws you fucking nonce, just because they could be sued doesn't mean they don't break the law. Companies are sued all the fucking time or is that not true either?

harder for women because of periods and childbirth

>>683374402
>Coal mining is hard

How do you have a computer that connects from 1960 to the real internet in 2016

>>683374938
>I am strong, women are weak.
Wow you really proved your point there anon women cant go into manly fields or be the strong alpha. That is so not fair to men that they have more available jobs.


>>683376100
>decide to never achieve anything
It is pretty hard to be as successful when you have had to take a 5-18 year setback doing part time or no work so that you can care for your children.

>>683382496

Although that being said this day and age we have medical technology that prevents both

Step 1: Go to a walmart parking lot at the corner where the homeless people sit
Step 2: what is their gender? (Spoiler alert: male)

Yeah women have it alot easier. Even if a woman was homeless on the street, SOME man would likely offer to take her home or just give her money etc etc. Just think about it. All these legbeards screaming we want equal rights but why would I want that? I'm already on top, bitches

>>683382484
The stats you are clinging to are based on negotiable wages. I've said that already. You sound like you think there is a massive corporate conspiracy to not hire women.

>>683356408
honestly, we cant compare the two. women try to compare us, but only when they want to take something from us.

if we go back to the basics, then men are in charge. if a women says no, the man can force her. he's stronger. if they are just as smart, then the man will still be stronger and in charge.

and all after that is about adapting to get the best partner, the best life etc.
a woman would please her man to try to keep him. he put food on the table etc.

these days its all smoke and mirrors. all the rights women are given, can be taken away from them in a second.
women have way too much power, but its not real power. still smoke and mirrors.
but since most men are born into this new way of thinking, they become weak and women are confused.
they still want the alpha-male, but they want to be treated like gods from the betas.
and the betas hear women saying "oh i just want a nice guy" blah blah. so they become that nice guy, only to be the steady income while she fucks some alpha guy.

and the alpha has it just as hard. women want them, but they allways go back to some beta that spends all their money on them.

so who has it the easiest and hardest?
women decide if they want to make a man happy or not.
so mens happiness are beeing controlled by the women.
but women will never get what they want.
they thought they could handle the power but they couldnt.
its only a matter of time now.

>>683356408
do stereotypes count?

>>683383216
I don't think at all. All I am saying is sometimes it happens, if it never did we wouldn't need the law.

>>683383113
http://sw.oxfordjournals.org/content/32/4/312.abstract

"Women were more likely to become homeless because of eviction and domestic violence, whereas men were more likely to become homeless as a result of unemployment alcohol abuse, and jail release."

Seems like males are a cause of both male and female homelessness.

>>683359529
Citation needed

>>683382332
I agree. Fucking hate that people think biological differences are racist. Like oh my god men are stronger because they have a hormone that helps them to be so!! SO SEXIST!!!

>>683357212
Yes

>>683383673
BECOME homeless. Notice it doesn't say stay homeless

>>683382949
The reason men have more available jobs is because we're more useful. We pull our weight. Unlike women who sit around spending money and complaining all day about a society we boys built.

>>683382995
having to spend money to prevent things men don't get

>>683383226
seems like the age of enlightenment is still to take place in your little redneck village.

serriosly, man. those are stoneage opinions.

>>683382949
5-18 year set back but still expect to sit at the adult table when you return to work. You realise there is a thing called dads right. I'm a dad. I work full time and care for my kids as much as I can. I got to take zero time off to be a parent. My wife got 6 months and the a flexible roster to accomodate. I got shit. Who has it harder in this arrangement?

>>683356408
About 50/50

Everyone has their own struggles.

>>683383936

If it costs less than $100 over an entire year to prevent both periods and pregnancy (including pads and tampons for when you need to have it) then yeah I wouldn't really count that as a big deal.

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>>683377470
>digital rape etc

>>683384191

Go look it up anon, don't worry I thought the same thing when I first heard it

>>683383673
Keyword is become.

Also men are responsible for literally everything. Your screen in front of you at this moment was invented, engineered and built by a man. You're welcome.

>>683365866
Why isn't it a legitimate buisness? Does it confl it with your morals? Do you find it ofensive?

>>683377470
I was really fucking confused about 'digital rape' until i looked it up...it really needs a different name...b/c i was worryed 4 y computer...i consider her a girl...a sexy girl

>>683384687

You're fingers are also known as your 'digits' that's what it's called that

>>683366836
Why does she have to tell anyone that this is how she makes a living? Who the fuck cares what society thinks? All that matters is that they have a product that people will pay good money for, that they can legally sell, why does social normality matter? Or are you triggered because you're not pretty enough to sell your panties online?

>>683367069
Why isn't it reasonable? It is a product, people want it, and she can legally sell it, where is the problem?

>>683383360
I doubt thats gender specific, maybe if they see that person is "weak"/" stupid" etc. they try it (or well, they probably always try)

And maybe some woman are too afraid or something to say no to the lower offer
But that probably happens with Man as well,, i dunno maybe they don't shout about it, or just think "ye thats cause i accepted that offer not cause im a girl/boy/bisexual/etc"

>>683368387
Are you triggered because you're not pretty enough to sell your panties online?

>>683377832
Can i claim intellegent rape? Stupid rape? First would be someone using logic to destroy my ideas n the other would just be someone violating my brain with their stupidity. Only applicable IRL

>>683384180
and the higher likelihood of getting raped

>>683363733
I did swap. I was supposed to be a girl I always knew that. I started on hormones 18 months later I am basically female now, other than a dick that doesn't work anymore. And that sucks, I only like women sexually.

I found out gender means nothing to body dysphoria :l it's a chromesome thing.

My assessment to OP is that women in general suffer equally but in different spiritual and physical ways, but only if they adopt into their perceived gender rolls. Truthfully, the battle of sexes is dependent on laws of averages and that's some fucking crap to base things on.

>>683385430

Yeah don't worry I already brought that up before and it seems to be the argument is 'but now staring can be considered rape!'

>>683385421
Bhahahbabahahahahahaha omfg XD
Intelligent rape ..

>>683385692
Psychological abuse is no joke you asshole. Watch your triggering and check your privilege.

>>683356408

To any guy thinking guys have it easier, would you switch your life to be a girl?

You have to deal with creepy dudes, periods every month, having babies etc etc etc

>>683381399
I think it has to do with training them to be good fuck objects.

>>683357092
7 Billion humans crawling around on this rock... obviously not that difficult

>>683383916
>women who sit around spending money and complaining all day
Generalization, also no statistical evidence that this is true.

>society we boys built
because you wouldn't let girls be a part of it until the 20th century

>>683383995
>I got to take zero time off.
Did you ask? Did your boss say no to your face. If so what an asshole.
>6 months payed leave.
Individual company doesn't negate trends.
>Payed 6 months has existed since stone age. Therefore women have it easier.
She got 6 months because she and women before her demanded it.
Why haven you?

Complain to your employer not me brah.

>>683358510
have actually heard this from two different mothers of 2+ children

>>683384819
Why not rape with fingers then? Viruses scare me...g2g scan my pc now.

>>683384340
I just did. So it just means someone got finger banged? Why use the word digital?

>>683386047
Babies...as IN giving birth? Cause , kids are usually have a father too

Also, you DONT HAVE TO have children. Its not like you magically get pregnant át X age.

>>683386758

It's just the technical word for them

>>683384421
You are just an oppressive dick. /s

>>683356408
I'd give it harder to her than any boy.

Getting ahead in the business and political world is easier for a man.

Everything else is incredibly easy for a woman.

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>>683356408
Women have it a lot easier. Boobs and Pussy is all it takes to get ahead in life.

>>683385949
I checked my privelage, im really fortunate, thanks 4 reminding me of such cuck. You should really get some of this privelage, its greate.

>>683358510
Or been stung or bitten by an a whole array of poisonous/venomous animals.

Or had any of dozens of diseases or other medical conditions.

Or been in an endless array of accidents or been severely assaulted.

>>683384421
>Individual takes credit for everything that came before him.
HA
>Men made this stuff which makes them better than women.
and discrimination has no part in the fact that males were allowed to go to college to become engineers and women were pushed away from the same fields.

>>683356408

Read this fucking shit

>>683379085

>>683358553
Underrated post.

>>683356864
well no one cares, that's their problem

Men and women have it easier and harder in different ways. Men just disproportionately hold the reigns of power in most domains: politics, business, science, etc. Cold comfort for all of us men left out in the cold, but the people who run the show, do have at least something in common with us.

>>683387696

That's pretty fake anon

>>683387460
Imo the men only did it 4 the pussy, if men didnt need women 2 further humanity we would still b in caves beatin our dicks letting the fallout care 4 itself

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>>683387696
and this fucking shit.

>>683388287

and no doubt there are hundreds of men and women in the comment section going 'you're a fucking idiot'

>>683362658
Women can get into almost any male dominated field they want.
There are programs, grants, scholarships, etc that will give them a free ride of the put in enough effort.
When it comes to employment, businesses are tripping over themselves to hire women for male dominated fields.
The reverse is not even remotely true.

If a woman is absolutely horrid to look at, she can be incompetent, a bungling fool, have a shit record and there are still people that will hire her over any man that applies for the job.

When it comes to retaining their employment, women are granted endless extra leeway, special privileges, lower expectations, additional time off (no, not just maternity leave). They're given preference on shifts/scheduling and if they meet the minimum requirements or their boss likes them, they will be promoted above much more ambitious and capable male peers.
If they get into any type of work related drama, the business will almost always automatically take a woman's side.

t. Man who has worked with lots of women in several different job settings

>>683358849
women get custody 'cos they are the one WHO DESTROYED THEIR BODY AND PUSHED THE FUCKING PILE OF SHIT BABY OUT OF THEM

it's like me wanting a piece of art you took a year to paint just 'cos I helped mix the coulours

>>683377470
It isn't rape unless penetration is involved, only assault and if 1/3 women get assaulted then you can consider yourself lucky, 10/10 have been beaten at leas once

>>683388790
Id go with fronted the cash to paint b/c without the male u have no child

>>683389229

It's defined as digital rape

>>683365866
Do eet Faggot!

>>683372481
>femanon here, I would never bf you or have you as friends

I'm actually friends with several rabid feminists and my last serious gf was a top tier sjw feminist.
I left her.
She called crying for months.

She's actually insanely attractive, but I couldn't stand her crazy bullshit.

Most guys can let that shit go in one ear and out there other, so it's likely that you're entirely wrong and may even know people who frequent here regularly or who hold similar opinions/beliefs and simply do not share them with you because they know what a terrible person you are.

>>683356408
Harder
girls have their period, every month, painful and messy, embarassing.
they are scrutinized constantly over how beautiful they are, so they have to work hard on their makeup, clothing, and personality in order to please society.

men can just look scruffy, belch and shit in the shower and no one cares.

>>683386461
Spoken like a women/young kid who doesn't know the stigma attached to asking for time off to do a "woman's job" grow up kid. Men don't get the perks woman do regarding kids. If you argue this point you'll lose all credibility in my eyes. Call me what want for saying that but in this life, men go to work and slog it out when their kids are born.

>>683360665
malala is an ugly cunt

>>683358849
>Why aren't people killing more women?

>>683386776

Yeah as in giving birth.

And carrying a fuckign human being around inside yoru body for 9 months.

>>683389751

Except for the fact we have medical technology to stop periods

As for beauty ideals, men have ideals they have to match up to too and both genders can choose whether or not to match up to them.

>>683390136
>medical technology to stop periods
no, no we don't. nothing safe anyways.

>>683390084
Whenever i hear woman talk about, the wonders of having a kid, or smiling while pregnant i remind her of what you said

Like "Wtf you smiling about?? You have a fuckn human being inside you!..the fuck is your problem!?"

>>683390301

Pills, the bar, and sometimes the IUD. Seriously nothing is safe but it does count as ways to stop it.

men have small dicks and have to constantly size up their dicks with others even though the largest dick is usually too small anyways. Rarely is any man large enough to really please a woman, but women have to pretend for 99% of the men. "I'm 8 inch what are you?" seriously, none of that matters because even your 8 inches is too small needle dick.

>>683357092
Cluster headaches are worse

>>683390632
no, it doesn't count otherwise suicide counts for either gender and that would make us all equal.

>>683390804

>periods = suicide

What the fuck are you on about?

>>683390136
I get you, but getting a medical procedure to stop periods? Sounds serious. Also, men are generally far more unanimous on what constitutes an attractive woman, than women are on men. According to studies.

That said, we men folk do have many other pressures as far as making ourselves attractive to the opposite sex is concerned. We don't bleed from our crotch, though, short weird medical intervention.

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Just read this, here's your answer

>>683390671
wut

>>683390932
you're saying a woman has it easy because she can ingest toxic chemicals that could cause death, strokes, cancer and not to mention costs a lot. So, I am saying if that makes it easier for girls, then suicide is an option to make life easier for men. They suicide, no more problems.

>>683390994

>sounds serious

It's really not >>683390632

>>683390804
WAT?