>>682278765
And Allah knows best

>>682278765

haha what's it like being a pathetic loser who will never amount to anything?

I'm sorry you're dad is dissapointed in you.

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>>682278919
>you're dad
>dissapointed

There's some of that quality Merkin edgymacashun.

>>682278765
stay mad libfag

Most of them are there for free stuff

>>682278765
K - keep me posted

Oop.. I don't wanna go all Sperry like OP.

>>682279172
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

>>682279081
Free food at Dennys and like 2% off at the mall, it's really not that much, it's more the retards fresh outta bootcamp who go around saying thank me for my service and give me a discount most could give 2 fucks

>>682278765
Come on, someone has to do it.

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>>682278765
Go suck a dick, you sick little faggot.
Get back to your trap boipussy, sissy.
WTF do you know about anything, stupid twat?

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>>682278765

Man, look at how easily all the military fags got triggered.

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>>682278765

ITT: Mr. Edgelord saves Paris

>>682279044

>Merkin
>edgymacashun

You can't spell either retard but your probably some Frenchie ESL cheese eating surrender monkey.

>>682279324
Yeah, the yachts of Halliburton's shareholders ain't gonna buy themselves!

>falling for bait this hard

>>682279594 (You)

Fuck off autist

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>>682278765
In 1-2 months I'm going to join the stormtroopers, I suppose. 37F as my MoS and I'm looking forward to it, tbh. Don't think I'll be killing any babies, but most likely sand niggers (until we get into some kind of actual war, instead of something for profit). And idk about the whole "fuck your service" thing, but I'd fuck your ass if you make a good trap.

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>>682279580
>being this autistic

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>>682279800

Only autists post shit like

>being this autistic

I'll just go back to fuckin a different girl every weekend and getting paid to work out lol.

Have fun at McDonald's fat loser ahahaha

>>682279722
How does it feel to be the lowest-paid assassin on Earth? You'll be murdering little brown people for Raytheon and Halliburton, risking getting your limbs and nads blown off daily so that Dick Cheney can get another gold nozzle for his champagne spigot. Then when you're fucked in the head from looking at the bullet-riddled corpses of all the children you've murdered, you'll get to spend the rest of your life begging for change on the street while people tell you to "get a jerb."

Good luck!

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>>682280150

In a world with a finite amount of resources only the strongest nations will thrive.

That's a concept a lot of you community college peace loving utopian hippy dreamers just don't seem to understand.

>>682280109
>Damage control

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>>682278765
What's the matter? That girl you never could get to notice you likes military dick?

Or did you finally work in the nads to ask her out only to be publicly humiliated in the process?

Is it that worthless feeling you get when another year creeps by and you're just getting older and fatter, but still live at home jerking off in moms bathtub?

Is your father in the picture at all?

Do you think his love for you has faded in light of your existential failures?

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>>682280464
>strongest nations

>>682279589
Oh, America's militarism and wealth disparity is horrifying. But soldiers think they're doing a good thing. Plenty of them are cunts, but to say a soldier is automatically a fucker for being a soldier, well, you are clearly a child. A superpower needs a powerful military. It's not a big deal. There's no need to be just as extreme in opposition to their dipshittery. It's possible to have a strong military without having all sorts of horrible economic byproducts, or so many innocent deaths (or deaths in general).

>>682278765

Hear hear!

>>682279718
What's the matter? Did a /b/ post upset you?

Realise that everything in /b/ should NEVER be taken seriously. kys

>>682280545

What do you call this >>682279800?

You're a fuckin loser aren't ya?

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>>682280630
"Young Men: The lowest aim in your life is to become a soldier. The good soldier never tries to distinguish right from wrong. He never thinks; never reasons; he only obeys. If he is ordered to fire on his fellow citizens, on his friends, on his neighbors, on his relatives, he obeys without hesitation. If he is ordered to fire down a crowded street when the poor are clamoring for bread, he obeys and see the grey hairs of age stained with red and the life tide gushing from the breasts of women, feeling neither remorse nor sympathy. If he is ordered off as a firing squad to execute a hero or benefactor, he fires without hesitation, though he knows the bullet will pierce the noblest heart that ever beat in human breast.

A good soldier is a blind, heartless, soulless, murderous machine. He is not a man. His is not a brute, for brutes kill only in self defense. All that is human in him, all that is divine in him, all that constitutes the man has been sworn away when he took the enlistment roll. His mind, his conscience, aye, his very soul, are in the keeping of his officer. No man can fall lower than a soldier--it is a depth beneath which we cannot go." -- Jack London

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>>682278765
You're just mad that you'll never be rad.
U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S A

>>682280868
He was clearly mocking your illiteracy. Anyone who wasn't an actual, no-fooling-around autist could see that.

>>682280802
Upset? Because of seven whole sentences? Nigger I'm high as fuck. Or because I called him a child? Are you upset every time you make fun of someone?

Ex military fag here. Some are like this, most just want free college.

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>>682280912
>A U S A U S A U S A U S A U S
Strewth! Oz foreva. Good on yer, mate.

>>682280618

2016 and not realizing that excess is a direct representation of military, political, and economic success.

You from Europe? You know, the delusional country that thinks it's our equal but in reality is nothing more than our little bitch boy?

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>>682278765
You're welcome

>>682279492
You seem desperate to think that

>>682281016

>calls someone illiterate
>doesn't know the difference between illiteracy and typos made on a phone


Autists everywhere in this thread.

>>682281179
>Europe
>country

There's some more of that good ol' Merkan edgymakashun. They teach you about the nation of Europe before or after the lesson on God making dinosaur-riding cavemen?

>>682280904
There once was a wolf and he was a dog. -Jack London

To all military fags. You are the scum of society. Thanks for risking your meaningless lives to go shoot at other scum like yourselves. Hope the worlds keeps having wars because we need to thin the population and who better to die than you illiterate, murderous pieces of shit.

>>682281516
Military fage here. Only like 5% of the military actually goes to war. Most of us sit in AC buildings and work on computers. Boots on the ground war isnt really a thing anymore.

>>682280904
>>682281469
jack london was a faggot and a bad writer
fuck off underb& nigger

>>682280904
What a narrow, blinkered view.

By definition a good soldier or sailor is one who upholds their oath to the Constitution. Part of that oath us to carry out lawful orders. Firing on civilians in a bread line firmly falls into the "not lawful" category.

Joining the military does not snuff out the intelligence and humanity in a man. Have a look at any of the soldiers who wrote or illustrated their experiences from wherever they were sent to fight. It's some of the most poignant art about the human condition you can ever hope to find.

War is ghastly. It's soul crushing. But in my time over there I got the chance to also see some acts of tremendous sacrifice and altruism, the best of what the human soul can accomplish.

Please consider broadening your viewpoint.

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The roar of jimmies rustling in this thread can be heard from orbit.

>>682281908
Dude... I know what you were trying to say, but nothing can be heard in orbit, it's a vacuum.

>>682281427
kek

i love you, /b/.

>>682281845
>Joining the military does not snuff out the intelligence and humanity in a man.
It can though, and has. For American vets, in most wars too. Esp. Vietnam, Iraq, WWs. Gulf War was pretty bad. Korea too. Just all of them have fucked a lot of things up. But that does not make every soldier automatically a cunt, though the two are strongly related and sometimes the military is the cause, sometimes it isn't. It's possible for it to not fuck a human's soul, because there have been and are currently good men in the military, good soldiers. We just need to make that happen more often, lots of soldiers are fuckhead murderous killers, but plenty aren't. There are too many merciless killers armed by the government certainly, be it cops or troops or otherwise

>>682281427

lol all I need to know about Europe is that we saved their asses or kicked their asses in the war and now they just kinda ride around on our coattails.

Yes we spy on you and even when you caught us what did you do? haha fucking nothing.

Just sit the fuck down Euro


>>682280904

Oh wow ignorance at it's finest. USA military members are literally trained to disobey illegal orders.

Of course, you didn't know that because you've allowed yourself to become brainwashed by idiots like him.

What's it like not looking at things objectively, having no world experience, and being genuinely stupid?

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While OP and associates clearly came here to whore themselves, there is a point that needs to be made. In America, you absolutely are not allowed to criticize a soldier or the military for any reason whatsoever, lest you be demonized by literally all of society. It's the highest tier of political correctness.

>>682281997
Depends what height the orbit is. But I know what you're trying to say. Space is a vacuum, and sound can't travel through a vacuum, but my Dyson vacuum makes lots of sound. Dyson is a wizard.

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>>682282395
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>682282199

>lots of soldiers are murderous
>a few soldiers are murderous

FTFY armchair guy who has never had any experience in a combat zone.

>>682282580
The job of a soldier is literally to commit murder for the State. Not "literally" in the Millenial-speak sense, bit the actual literal sense of "literal." A soldier is there to murder people. If that's not someone's job, that someone is not a soldier.

>>682282281
Russians did more and different suffered more.

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>>682282522
Basically, yeah. That is the standard response everytime.

>>682282395

Wrong.

You will be demonized for criticizing the military as a whole by saying it's people are brainless drones who kill babies.

You will not be demonized for criticizing individual members of the service who are incompetent or commit war crimes.

>>682282199
Out of curiousiry, did you serve?

My experience was that the majority of the men I did my time with were concientious, loyal, and humane. Nobody liked killing. No one. We did it because it was necessary, to protect ourselves and eliminate some really awful people.

Being in the military didn't change their basic humanity. War did. Seeing what the Taliban was capable of, their brutality, was shocking. But isn't it a mark of their humanity that veterans come back effected by war? We saw things most people can't imagine. War changes you, but only because war is terrible, but it does not make the men who return monsters.

>>682282869
>war crimes
War IS a crime.

>>682282497
It's Dat Dyson Ball son. Space wizard magic.

>>682282964
War is necessary sometimes though.

>>682282580
I didn't say the majority of them are murderous killers. I just said a lot, which is subjective. 100 is too many for me. And that's objectively a very generous ballpark figure. Definitely never been in a combat zone, definitely do respect the people who have been. But I don't need to be in a combat zone to see the effects that being in combat and just being involved with war in general, and it can and has fucked up a lot of people. Don't be a denier. Come on. Or at least explain yourself. We're listening. But don't just refute some shit with "you don't even get an opinion" then don't even type yours out when you apparently have all this information we don't

>>682282918
>did you serve?
Serve whom? I didn't hear any great outcry from the people of Merka to go to another continent and destroy the entire infrastructure of Iraq, killing two million people and reducing a modern, industrialized nation into a ravaged stone age Moonscape in order to protect the profits of a handful of oil billionaires.

>>682282749
Not true. Literally hundreds of thousands of soldiers that have never been to a combat zone

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>>682282869
But you will, tho. Remember this asshole?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandahar_massacre
To this day, people defend him saying "He had PTSD. You don't know what it's like. You're in no position to judge." America glorifies war and deifies it's soldiers.

>>682282749

So much ignorance in one post. Their job is not to murder to people it's to win wars and advance the interests of their country. This sometimes involves killing enemy combatants.

That's not murder kid. Murder is killing innocent civilians or enemy troops that have surrendered.

>>682282918
Never served, no. Thank you for your service. I meant war when I was talking about the effects of the military, I was speaking of the military because the military was the reason they were there, because they were told to go. I know that most people enlisted are not bad people, that is my point. But I also know that plenty of them have been affected by combat. Some of them were crazy already, but plenty were not. I've always seen people who enlist as taking on that burden so that pussies like me do not have to, because I am aware someone must do it. Our country must have that force available if it is needed.

>>682283288
Millenials...

Saddam was commiting genocide wtf

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>>682283134
The sad thing is this poster is a hundred fucking years old. You retards never learn.

>>682283288
The US Congress voted to go to war in Iraq. That is the vote of the American people by their elected representatives. Was it the right decision? I'm still not sure, but it was a lawful order that was followed, and at the time we did believe that Saddam was a clear and present danger to the world.

I know you're being incendiary on purpose, but try to say something besides "muh oil" and "muh billionares". You sound like some Occupy Wallstreet professional victim.

>>682283288
Fuck off nigger. They did what they were told. You want to put that blame on the soldiers instead of fixing the people who order them? You dumb cunt.

>>682283198

I wasn't refuting your entire post, I think I agree with you, that's why I quoted a portion of it. Yes war fucks people up, everyone knows that.

I don't really understand your point beyond that. You are basically contradicting yourself the rest of the time.

>Joining the military does not snuff out the intelligence and humanity in a man.
>It can though, and has
>But that does not make every soldier automatically a cunt
>sometimes the military is the cause, sometimes it isn't
>It's possible for it to not fuck a human's soul, because there have been and are currently good men in the military, good soldiers.

i always post in these threads because i love them.

nigger probably isnt even past middle management at walmart talking shit to military.

i got off active duty, still in the guard working for dos making over 210k per year before i turn 30.

i love life. stay mad.

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>>682283752
Not him, but that isn't our concern. He was atrocious and despicable, yes, but it isn't our job to peacekeep the planet.

>>682283710
I don't think you're a pussy for not serving, that would make no sense. You made a choice with what to do with your life and I hope it makes you happy and successful.

War does change people, but in my experience it doesn't make them into crazed murderers. American troops are professionals who use deadly force when they have to. Sometimes there are accidents, and yes sometimes there are bad people in the ranks who commit murder. But the overwhelming majority of us went over there, did our job, and came home.

The image of the PTSD riddled vet who never takes off his field jacket and harbors thoughts of mass murder is a bullshit piece of Vietnam Era propaganda.

>>682283752
"genocide" of motherfuckers like ISIS you shill.

Explain how Iraq was a million times better under Saddam than it is now?

It's all cold war shit, remember the Soviet-Afghan war, or are you too young?

US funds Allahu Ackbars for proxy wars with Soviets, uh, I mean to "help the people of Afghanistan" - the whole country turns into clusterfuck of different muslim groups fighting for control - the Soviets say "alright fuck that, not worth it" and leave, then all of a sudden the US doesn't give a shit about the people there anymore.

And the same thing is happening today.

I don't blame people for being so ignorant when manipulation of the masses is so widespread.

But at the least, read up on some history and NEVER trust a word from the white house

>>682283571

What's your point? He is serving a life sentence in jail.

No one is glorifying him.

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>>682284236
>Making over 210k/yr in the guard
That's horseshit. They do not get paid that well.

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>>682283752
>>682283869
>>682283890
Jesus christ, the glassy-eyed fucking zombie stares of the collective Foxtards in here are giving me the creeps. I forget, are we are at war with Oceania this week, or are they our trusted allies? What's the latest word from MinTruth on the subject?

Invade Iraq because of Quwait! No, wait, invade Iraq because of 9/11! No, wait, because of the Kurds massacred with the illegal chemical weapons we gave them! No, wait, because of WMD which we will find ANY DAY NOW. Any day.

Fuck off, you braindead little Good German drones.

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>>682284357
Forgot related pic

>>682284027
Those were two posts by two different people. He and I were talking back and forth and you jumped in the middle I think.

>>682284243
We had that same attitude when hitler was doing his thing. Not our fuckin problem lol lata europe.

Hmm maybe we shouldnt make that mistake again.

>>682284405
most everyone has a regular job you fucking moron.

>>682278765
Peacefag detected

>>682279285
Free college??

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>>682284609
No, I just think the wrong people are being murdered.

>>682284417
So uh, do you have something of substance to say or are you just going to spout slogans?

We went to war believing there were WMDs, because Saddam broke the terms of the treaty which was to allow inspectors into Iraq. He didn't comply, so a coalition of nations invaded and deposed him.

The problem wasn't the legality of the war, it was in the execution. Once we removed him we had no plan, we simply expected the Iraqis to happily jump into democracy with both feet.

We're you even alive back when all this happened?

>>682284357
Look man, im pretty liberal and to some degree i agree with you. Shit is not always so black and white at the time though.

>>682278765
>baby-murdering stormtrooper
kek, lost

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>>682284376
Glorify was the wrong choice of word. I meant to say that nobody was allowed to criticize him. A court did their job, yes, but in the eyes of the public he essentially was given a pass because of his previous service. It's a reflection of American society as a whole. It's unhealthy for a society to immediately begin searching for excuses for someone's actions because of their previous stature.

>>682284417

Here we have the classic guy who thinks he has a good understanding of how the world works. In reality he has absolutely no access to classified intelligence. This directly results in him having no understanding of our nation's political and military moves around the globe so he just fills in the blanks with

>hurr durr 1%, big oil, Illuminati, Jews, aliens durrr

I'll simplify things for you. This planet does not have unlimited resources. This leads to conflict. We do the things we do so that we can maintain our position as the top nation on the planet. It really is that simple.

Until you are sitting inside the strategic meetings held at the top echelons of our military and government then you should probably realize your opinion is pretty much baseless speculation and worth nothing.

>>682278765
Just because you disagree with the war doesn't make the individual soldiers any less heroic. And neither do the actions of a few fuck heads in the military. Seriously man, soldiers tend to be the most down to earth, hard working people on the planet so don't hate the player, hate the game.

>>682282793
America saved Russia from Japan so Russia could attack Germany, without America Russia would suffer like they did in WWI.

>>682284816
Ah, so that's the latest official truth from Rupert Murdoch, is it? I had wondered. It changes so often it takes a True Believer to keep track of it. I remember seeing Dubya telling fibs on television about "muh s00p3r s3kr1t WMD intelligence" and laughing, thinking, "Man, it's so obvious this guy is lying, he's finally overestimated the stupidity of the Amerifat people. NO ONE is stupid enough to believe this obvious horseshit." And then my utterly flabbergasted horror when I realized that you morons really ARE that stupid, and bought the whole thing.

Are STILL buying the entire fucking ball of shit simply because it's easier than having to acknowledge that you are ruled by a sociopathic cult of malevolent, soulless billionaires.

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>>682285102
Word. I'll bet he's never heard of these new Russian supersoldiers, either.

>>682285028

Do you personally know anyone who thinks that way?

I don't. No one in the military does, in fact everyone thinks people like that are fucking morons and murderers, regardless of PTSD. None of my civilian friends or family do either.

>searching for excuses for someone's actions

Do you believe that PTSD or other mental would not cause someone to commit a crime like that?

>>682284472
The attitude America had at the time was more along the lines of: "We just got off the Great Depression. Photos from The Great War are still in circulation. We've got Japan to worry about. We might not make it and we need to play it safe."

In any case, the influence and power Nazi Germany had and Goatfuckers, Inc. have are not even remotely comparable.

>>682285226
>bush was lying
And yet, Syria somehow got a hold of shitloads of Sarin (reported to have been trucked out of Iraq) and Iran started a nuclear program with weapons grade uranium (that supposedly Iraq had approximately the same amount of, which was also reported to be trucked out of there) in that MONTH they had to delay the inspections. I'm glad you're able to discern the truth so readily from fiction. With detectives like you on the case, we're sure to have no problems in the future.

>>682285226
Again, im pretty liberal but you sound retarded.

>>682278765
The soldiers are probably who I feel sorry for the most. We've all spent our lives being brainwashed by the bullshit patriotic, authority-loving bootlicking society. I feel bad that they risked life and limb to act as corporate mercenaries for the rich of this country.

There are certainly some, perhaps many, that aren't deserving of sympathy. But I think most just bought into the bullshit of serving our country. As Americans we really need to get back to our "Fuck the government" attitude we started with.

>>682278765
Rebel scum

>>682278765
Someone failed the recruitment

Don't worry, there is a place for weak faggots like you.
Gender studies

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>>682283752
Saddam was keeping those sand nignogs in check. Look at the mess they got now with ISIS, Iran backed nignogs, etc

The fuck is wrong with you?

>>682285028
He's already been judged and found guilty. What's the point in adding more criticism? He was wrong, it was proven in a court of law, and now he's doing time for it.

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>>682285757
Oh, I have no doubt you're a liberal. You people are even worse than the mouth-breathing RWA Foxtards who are at least honest about being a pack of bloodthirsty sociopaths. You are just as stupid and deluded, but with a helping of smug self-righteousness on top. It's absolutely infuriating.

>>682285923

All part of the CIA's plan to destabilize the Middle East. That's what happens when you cross the US. That's why Europe does whatever we tell them lol

>>682281389

>B-But I have a legit excuse

Now you're just embarrassing yourself Tyrone

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>>682285923

Mideast tyrants create a need for their existence as "peacekeepers" by inciting mania and letting it fester, then oppressing people just enough to prevent being removed from power.

Faggots like Saddam made Iraq into a shithole. Unfortunately, now we have to firebomb the entire region to put a real end to it.

Ofc that'll never happen. We have complete pussies running the show now. Pic related, it's Canada's newest King cuck.

>>682285902

Oh look, another dropout "operator" who couldn't handle life in the real world, so he jumped right into the govt. safety net of military service. So what did you do with my tax money grunt? Blow it on hookers? How's that section 8 housing you broke faggot?

Oh btw (when you do finally stumble out of that uniform I paid for and try your hand in real life) next time I go to McDonald's, I expect you to get my fucking order right, mouth breather.

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>>682285435
I know plenty of people that think like that. Between my family and Facebook, that's the only talk I ever hear.

I want to believe that you're right but shit, I've never seen or heard anyone say otherwise.

Sure, I can easily believe that PTSD would cause that, but that doesn't automatically make it a shield that other's can throw around him. It just devalues the word and makes it tougher for otherwise good vets with PTSD.

>>682286034
I get why you insult people who disagree with you.

You are wrong though.

>>682285902
DEP? Seriously, it's there to make sure people can handle boot camp. The military isn't hard in that sense.

>>682285923
Saddam was too busy killing Kurds to do anything about organizations in Turkey (who were also committing genocide on the Armenians). I mean, his power and influence prevented a lot of people from coming into power that shouldn't through sheer fear of reprisal for stepping on his turf, but he was still a massive douchecannon. There won't be stability for a long ass time until somebody has the balls to actually conquer the region and take their sovereignty.

>>682286468
see
>>682284236

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>>682278765
Stay mad faggot.

>>682278765
every time you make this thread, I take more collateral lives.

>>682286442
This. It's the same thing as the African warlords except that Africa is still too unstable to become a world threat. Arab spring is changing this.

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>>682286002
I was speaking in reference to the time period and how even to this day it represents our national attitude as a whole.

>>682286468
Another mad neck beard who cant do a push up lol what a faggot

>>682284421
Hold the phone, US used to be allies with OBL?

What the fuck? Why is there no mention of this in schools or anywhere?

>>682282395
I'm also gonna go with GET OUT NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>682286468
We don't live in the same country.
When you enlist here, you stay until you die

Stay mad at wallmart faggot

>>682286961
this is very well documented

ragan gave money to the muja hadeen to fight the soviets

millions in cash, also training and weapons.

saddam hussein received the key to the city of detroit. donald rumsfeld personally delivered him the "crop duster" helicopters used to gas the kurds.

>>682284302
No, mostly I am not talking about PTSD. I am talking more about the phenomenon whereby soldiers seem to make killing a game in order to desensitize themselves to killing WHILE doing it, not so much that they're crazy after and hurt people (which can happen, and has happened, but PTSD seems to be more suffering than hurting others though obviously it happens), which makes sense. And I get why they would do that. But the fact that they HAVE to put themselves in a place where they go "yeah get those fuckers haha!" as they fire from an Apache helicopter is bad. And don't say it doesn't happen, I've seen it. Albeit on video, NO I HAVEN'T SERVED, but it has definitely happened. And it's what I'd do. Those are enemies, not people.

>>682278765
Fuck you asshole, you'll never know the feeling of sliding your cock between two warm cheesy all beef patties of pleasure. There is nothing your tiny dick will ever know that is more loving, more tender and tasty, more fucking godlike than the love between a man and his McDonalds. Fuck you and may Allah shit upon your face in hell, you fucker. Praise burger praise burger!!!!!!

>>682284417
Hate fox, I'm a big liberal. You're dumb. The War in Iraq was bullshit also, absolutely a disaster.

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>>682286468
I'm sure you adult so much that you adult more than anybody has ever adulted.

>trying this hard to act mature on an anonymous imageboard
I'll bet you're not even old enough to post here, let alone to worry about "your" tax dollars. Don't bother with lying about your "job" and "income" to "prove me wrong". No matter how much proof you can take from your uncles facebook, it's still not you.

Because "allies" is a strong word.

"Covert supplier of armaments to known terrorist organizations that were targeting Soviet occupation forces of Afghanistan without considering long-term regional effects" would be more accurate. And being an ally usually means something like official sanction, and the CIA (under Bush senior, incidentally) is the definition of not that.

>>682287108
So basically the US created Al-Qaeda

>>682287457
Fuck you bitch I'm a man and I can fuck as many burgers as I want. Praise burger praise burger

>>682287108

The muja hadeen were Afghan natives, and very friendly with the US even throughout the 90s.

What happened was that after US/Soviets left Afghanistan, the fucking sandnigs from Northwest Pakistan seized all the weapons and took over. That's why they retreated back into Pakistan when US invaded: that's where they originally came from fifteen years prior.

It's also important to note that the terrorists assassinated muja leaders in the years leading up to 11 sept 2001.

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>>682287468
Basically, yeah. Another proxy war in the shadow of the Cold War. Elsewhere we were actually pretty successful with it.

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>>682278765
Is this you OP?

>>682286497

>I know plenty of people that think like that. Between my family and Facebook, that's the only talk I ever hear.

Well you just admitted your source group is pretty small.

>It just devalues the word and makes it tougher for otherwise good vets with PTSD.

This is accurate and I agree with 100%.

>>682283656
Even per the Geneva Conventions, one does not HAVE to take prisoners.
Once you do, THEN you are responsible for them and treatment rules kick in.

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>>682287670
Alright, you got a chuckle out of me.

>>682287468
Nope. More like "provided enough material support for an unrelated group/mission to make it possible for it to form".

Think of it like the Rotary Club donating a bunch of money and equipment for the Boy Scouts to do a Rotary Parade to piss off the Elks, then dismantling the Boy Scout troop when the Elks leave town. Then since the guys in the Boy Scouts use the material, money, and supplies left over to form a motorcycle gang ten years later and proceed to ride through the Rotary Club picnic and taking a shit in the potato salad.

The former Boy Scouts WERE affiliated with the Rotary at one point, but blaming the Rotary for the former Boy Scouts being a bunch of assholes now (especially because the Boy Scouts they sponsored no longer are around) is very naive. And stupid. And edgelord.

>>682279428
Pink pistol?

>>682287721
Mujahadeen just means "holy fighter"

ISIS calls itself Mujahadeen.

And so OBL was one of the good guys, that's what you're saying? Since he was our buddy, he must have been good, at least at the time.

Just all of a sudden he decided to turn into a terrorist, right? He was a terrorist from the start.

This is why RT makes a fuss about the State Dpt divided terrorists into "rebels" or "freedom fighters"

In reality it's simply whoever plays ball with us at the moment.

Halliburton (Cheney related oil globalist corportation) got a multi billion dollar contract right before the Iraq war, and...weirdly, it was the only one allowed to bid for the contract.

>>682286442
>Saddam made Iraq into a shithole.
Kek at you. an American speaking about a region you've never been to and a culture you'll never understand. Saddam invested his country's oil money into infrastructure and increased his Iraq's economy. Yes he did a lot of shitty thing but he was not bad for the country. In case you didn't know because you're an ignorant dumbass the U.S. worked very close with Saddam because he was fucking Iran up every time they fought him.

Soldier job is shit-tier.. Requires no intelligence. /thread

>>682287249
Fuck you, the Iraq war was great

>>682288170
You make it seem like they were "good guys" (meaningless term, but you get my point) at the time and then they broke bad after the Soviet-Afghan war.

Take the FSA for example, they are painted in a positive light but in reality they're not really any different than ISIS.

It's a game of chess with Russia, we are currently cucking them in the Black Sea, have turned their Ally in the reigion into a complete catastrophic warzone, and have hundreds of bases literally EVERYWHERE.

Meanwhile Russia has only 2 foreign bases.

>>682288517
>Reconnaissance is shit tire t. liberal

>>682288028

Where are you getting your information from?

https://www.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v1_rul_rule47

>>682278765
I'll remember that next time I'm murdering a baby for you. Future terrorists need to learn.:^)

>>682278765
>baby-murdering
Did you get this info from facebook/buzzfeed?

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>>682287905
Might be small, but it's a mindset that I've seen consistently represented. I've traveled and lived in small towns all my life and met the same kinds of people in those towns. Had these same discussions with others and gotten the same answers. Analogical and not definitive, sure, but I've seen it all too frequently.

Am I wrong, though? Am I just misinterpreting what I've experienced? Is it just the places I've lived in?

>>682288385

>Get a bunch of oil
>People still complain

Lol what's the problem? You should be happy. It's called strategy. We won.

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>>682289065
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

>>682288517
I have met some of the most intelligent and eloquent people in my life in the Marines, but there aren't a shortage of cowboy idiots either.

>>682278765
You should be thanking a vet for protecting your right to spew shit without getting arrested.

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>>682278765
>stupid, brainwashed, baby-murdering stormtrooper.
Hey, fuck you, buddy! We're protecting the Empire from religious fanatics! When the Rebels suicide-bombed the Death Star, we went to Hoth, were they lived, and fucked 'em up. We didn't bomb some random place that had nothing to do with the attack, like Tattooine.

That would be stupid.

>>682289213
ROEs and punishments for this have changed since '68. Show something like this that happened in the 2000s

>>682288489
Lololol and Stalin was fucking mother theresa for completing the 5 year plan in 4 years with forced collectivization and blood purges. But hey that industrialization was tits.

>>682289213
Either they get murdered, orphaned, or sold regardless of the side. War is fun.

>>682289207
Who is we? Are you trying to tell me you get a salary from halliburton? Are you a part of the globalost cabal?

Otherwise, how on earth do you get to say "We won"?

Not to mention the millions of deaths, I mean who gives a shit about that kind of thing, fuck morality, right?

>As long as we cuck the Russians and make dat oil money for the elite, what's the problem?

FTFY

>>682289501
>still misses 9 out of 5 shots

>>682289574
>war is fun

/thread

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>>682289501

this is above the head of about 89% of /b/tards

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>>682289213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc2OvrpzjvM

>>682289174

>Am I wrong, though?

What is your point exactly? This?

>It's unhealthy for a society to immediately begin searching for excuses for someone's actions because of their previous stature.

If so, I don't believe they look for excuses (which you should call reasons not excuses) because he was a member of the military. I think it's because he did something awful which he is now paying for.

People attempt to understand the behavior of everything from school shooters to serial killers to drug addicts.

Sometimes it's a mental issue that can be an excuse for their behavior and sometimes it's not. That's up to the experts to determine.

I do think that in the case of the military some people are too quick to use the PTSD explanation but my point is that not everyone thinks that way.

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They didn't "serve."

They were very well compensated for their time, just like any other employee.

>>682289532
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandahar_massacre

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Liberals, get out. We have no need for cowards and keyboard-warriors, here.

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>>682290169
>Well-compensated

https://youtu.be/IEOMchDJOus

Watch this video tell me they're not triggy happy cunts

The journalists in the beginning is debatable but the others..

>liberalfag here
I don't see why there are people who actually think we shouldn't have a military. Personally I think it's just fine, maybe we shouldn't be in some places that we have been recently but hey, that isn't up to me. More power to them, best we can do is hope they come back safely and make the easy transition back to post-war life

>>682289737
They don't matter. I'm sure non of these was holding the cure for cancer or the answers to live.

We are overpopulating anyway and these sandnigs breed like rabbits

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>>682290172
We were just talking about this. He was a single psychopath that acted against everyone around him. Not an example.

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lol wannabe Ramboes keep believing their country is the best country in an imperfect world just because they've been politically a dominant nation since a bunch of decades.

retarded.

Europeans found you and your pathetic country buried in blood and tomatoes and your populations fighting each other with wooden sticks.
They were inventing the modern science, meanwhile.
>pic related

Ruler countries has always brought technical, theoretical and moral innovations, as heredity for the world.
What did you offer to History as former ruler country?
Big Mac? D. Trump? smart bombs?

fucking ameritards.

>>682278765
W-well so what if you got your college paid for! You sold your soul for it at least I can carry my student debt as a badge of honor that isn't covered in the blood of dead Iraqi children!

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>>682290443
The standard unsubstantiated propaganda that has never been proven. Got any more, democuck?

>>682289608

>Who is we?

The west and it's allies. No I am not part of Halliburton but I am part of the US and I'm not naive enough to believe that we can get the things we need (in this case energy) without conflict which results in war which results in death.

>Not to mention the millions of deaths

Can't be helped. Finite amount of resources. Try and understand that.

Imagine you are trapped in a small room with 1 large bucket of food and water in it (this represents the earth) and eight other full grown men (they represent other countries).

The smart men will attempt to kill/cheat/steal their way to the most food in an attempt to survive and fill the bellies of their families (the citizens of their respective country). There is simply not enough to share.

Is it wrong? Yes, morally it is. Is it necessary? Absolutely. If you can't understand that and you think there is some kind of diplomatic peaceful solution then you need to reevaluate your position.

>As long as we cuck the Russians

Yes, they are not our friends.

>make dat oil money for the elite

This is a meme.

>>682290952

The internet, jet engines, proof that monarchies are unnecessary, and a military to protect both ourselves and you from the commies, fascists, and sandnigs while you're now passively letting them flood into your nations.

Fucking eurocucks.

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>>682290104
What I'm trying to say albeit poorly worded is that we practice a system of kneejerk hero-worship because of how we treated Vietnam veterans. It's ingrained political correctness. Every nation that adopted that mindset in history has had it backfire on them horribly. If we place our soldiers on an impossibly high pedestal then we are asking for trouble.

>>682280109
I was on your side till you posted this. Fucking zeta cringelord.

>>682291440
Pay your debts to China and Germany

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>>682291239
Not him, but it's a correct meme.

>>682291884

Lol, we are never gonna pay that shit back. China's economy depends on ours to import their second rate plastic junk by the quantum ton, and Germany receives more military aid than most of the rest of eurocuckland.

You has-been peasents should be paying us.

>>682279428
HA YOU GUYS HAVE RAMPS MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>682289737
Sauce?

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>>682292022

>Posts opinion.
>No links.
>No related image.
>No facts.
>No related story or experience.

Literal definition of a shitpost.

Pic related.

>>682289737
Sauce? Also where are insurgent deaths?

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>>682278765
Don't be mad about the fact that when I go to your home town in uniform, all the bitches that ignore you want a my long hard army dick. I skull fuck little pussies like you for chow. Go live somewhere else you little shit. Now thank me for my service and clean my boots before I shove them up your tight ass.

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>>682293103
Then what are we fighting for? What have we been deploying troops for?

>>682278765
Pfft... Wish I had the chance to get some baby stomping time in. Lame ass ROE...

>>682278765
This is obviously b8 but I think its funny how butthurt military guys get


Say anything bad about the military, country, or god forbid the flag they will full chimp out on you. Marines are the worst.

>>682291440

Motherofgod
>The internet
The internet was born 30 years ago in a scientific research center in Pisa (Italy)
>jet engine
The first jet flight was invented by a mathematician of the Ancient Greek, then the turkish, then romanians, then french, then ameritards
>prove that blablabla
the first republic of History is Athens, more than 2500 years ago, ever heard about it?
>military
oh you defeated the God of War, right?
"defend" is not the correct word. "attack" maybe could be more correct, isn't it? if you had spent half of the investments that you spent in army using the rest to really preserve people to die, you would have done something really useful for humanity.
But you didn't 'cause you're the newfags of History.

>>682293552

Reread this >>682291239.

Do you really think we spend something like 50% of our entire country's budget developing military technology, funding wars/conflicts around the world, manning bases around the world, and paying the military/DoD so that some CEO's can get a few extra billion dollars?

Does that actually make sense to you? Just think about it and stop believing everything you read on Reddit.

>>682279285
yeah, theres that and the salary / benefits / insurance / retirement / pension. really not much, it only costs billions annually.

>>682279722
11b or gtfo

>>682279580
I'm just imagining you sitting there at your computer fuming at the idea anyone would insult merika.

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>>682294620
>le Reddit xD
Easily. Every war has been fought with the greed of the people combined with the greed of the elite. That's just humanity, Anon. War never changes and whatnot.

>>682280150
He probably won't even be issued a fucking rifle with that mos you fucking retarded basement dweller

>>682294615

lol

>The internet was born 30 years ago in a scientific research center in Pisa (Italy)
http://www.telespazio.com/-/iternet-day-fucino

>The first jet flight was invented by a mathematician of the Ancient Greek, then the turkish, then romanians, then french, then ameritards
Source?

I thought the first one that was actually flown was built by the British.

>the first republic of History is Athens, more than 2500 years ago, ever heard about it?
??? So what.

>you would have done something really useful for humanity.
You're not speaking German right now and living in a concentration camp about to be incinerated right now are you?

Your welcome.

>>682279722
37f is demanding shit, they can afford to turn people down and still have enough people.
be prepared to fail to make the cut during training and be forced to choose between infantry and cook.
war in the middle east isnt about profit any more than any of the campaigns you probably think are fully justified, so word of advice: lose the fucking attitude, you are about to be surrounded by people who don't give a shit (and for good reason).

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>682279589
says the guy who earns his living at the factory that makes premium toilet seats for luxury yachts.

>go fuck yourself

>>682281179
europe is one of the shitiest countries in the universe

>>682295212

So you are saying we spent almost $600 billion dollars so that some oil cronies could make $40~ billion?

That makes sense.

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>>682294615
JFC the cuck in that post is reaching levels that shouldn't even be possible.

>muh italys
The US military invented the internet for global real-time wireless communication. Whatever happened in Italy obviously died there.

>Ancient Greek
Is this nigger for real? This list reads like you just recently googled the topic for the first time.

>ATHENS
Yeah, that worked out really well, didn't it? Why, eurocuckland was littered with republics when USA flew into the world on the wings of a screaming eagle.

>I don't understand the basics of military strategy or world history
Nigga, you just went full retard. America has the oldest government in the world because the rest of you faggots keep collapsing and changing.

Don't worry, though. God-Empoeror Trump will set your shit straight next year.

>>682278919
>implying soldiers actually contribute in any way

>>682283710
actually you did serve. you paid the taxes that funded the efforts and you played some role in the economy that supported the whole thing.

the only difference is that you have the even greater psychological damage of having killed people without even getting the chance to realize you were doing so, let alone look them in the eye before you did it.

>feels bad man

>>682294620
No, obviously it's more complex than just "dat oil money" I should have elaborated more, I assumed people would understand there's more to it than that.

It's strategic powerplays with Russia and the coming Peak Oil thing, among varying alliances, the Saudi Arabia situation (I don't have time to elaborate, I'm sure you're aware however)

When giants are competing for resources in a world of normal sized people, and they have more than enough power do destroy eachother, there has to be some kind of agreement to avoid annihliation. But NATO recently is REALLY pushing it, especially in the black sea.

(we have literally no reason to have warships and ICBMS, and nuclear capable subs in that area other than swinging our dicks like "yeah and what are you going to do about it, take that Syria cucking like a bitch you know you won't do shit"

But the "oil money for the elites" isn't just some false meme, it's real.

I have to leave now, but I'll leave you with this quick link, sorry for not elaborating more.

(Why do you think we only intervent in countries that just happen to be in the top 10 oil reserves, nobody is talking about intervening in Uganda or other African countries where horrid atrocities occur everyday where we could utilize our power for a just reason for once)

I'll leave you with this as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mXsoYrXaMQ

>>682284302
meh, most millenials have the equivalent of PTSD from 18 years of being told there is nothing good in the world.

its not that bad really.

>>682289608
$2/gallon on gas is a pretty nice perk

>>682292686
>>682293192
I'm sure you could have just looked up the numbers yourself, but here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

Keep in mind the civillian casualties is likely around 300,000 - 400,000 beause of the way body counts were done, or lack thereof, during the start of the invasion the current General said "we don't do body counts"

>>682297099
No, it's actually pretty bad if you read up on why. And you have Saudi Arabia to thank for that. Read up on Peak Oil.

Stormtrooper fag here.
Just trying to watch Star Trek and nap while my boots dry.
Thanks for your tax dollars.
Go get aborted.

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>>682278765
>garuanteed replies
God damn you newfags will take any b8 these days

Stay mad, liberal.

>>682284302
>Soldiers aren't crazed murderers
>They just kill what they're ordered to kill
>Implying that's not insane

>>682296553

Dude you are basically agreeing with me.

We are going for the oil, but it's not so some CEO of the oil company can get rich. It's because our country runs on oil and in this day and age oil basically equals power. A lot of people simply don't understand this concept and seem to think there is unlimited resources on this world and wonder why we can't all just share and get along.

>But the "oil money for the elites" isn't just some false meme, it's real.
>No, obviously it's more complex than just "dat oil money"

Exactly my point. You are contradicting yourself here.

>>682278765
Yeah you should rather be unemployed
grow up, stop being a soldier and live in your mothers basement just like me

Poopy?

>>682297099
Gas 2 bucks or lower before the Iraq war twice as expensive following the Iraq war, and now it's dropped again because what Saudi Arabia is doing, the cheeky bastards. That's one country I wouldn't mind invading and toppling the Royal Family, they are literally satan.

But no, instead we're giving money and guns to Allahu Ackbars like we always to, this time in Syria

>>682297548
>following orders is insanity
And the opposite of order is not insanity then? You fuckin shill

>>682279428
You really triggered this poor softy.

>>682280109
Lol good one, my man!

>>682278765
lol, quality post anon

>>682295399

you are REALLY retarded, then.

your link says that Internet was invented by Europeans.

source: Paper encyclopedia. Try wikipedia, faggot.
Anyway, British are European, am I right?

I actually speak German, even if I'm not German.
Camps were builted for jewish and black people and I'm white and definetely not jewish lol.
But I read news about terroristic menaces, attacks and arrests every week. Almost every single one of them is made with weapons that you ameritards sold to them.
>military investments

nono, really, thank you.

>>682280464
That's dark

>>682280584
Lol good one my friend, you really hurt his feelings over the Internet! Aha well done my dude!

>>682296553
>>682297612

To add on:

What do you think is going to happen when Peak Oil comes? The country with the most oil and ability to acquire oil will be the best off. This is why the US is in the business of buying up and or taking by force as much oil as we can. Because it is coming and the government knows that. We have a lot of oil here at home that we don't even drill for yet and with fracking we will be better off than the rest of the world with all of that oil and our military might.

This is why our debts to other countries are relatively unimportant because soon enough China and the everyone else will be buying oil from us.

This is also why there is nobody intervening in shitholes like Africa. There is no tangible profit for the nation or it's citizens and when repercussions of Peak Oil do come then all the people complaining about our warmongering will be singing a different tune.

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>Exactly my point. You are contradicting yourself here.

But it's still a happening. You're implying if thats not the SOLE motivation, it doesn't exist at all.

Just because it's complex, doesn't mean it happens.

And you're off base talking about CEO's of Oil companies, it goes much deeper than that.

You're taking the easy way out by saying "it's dog eat dog bra"

but the globalist cabal doesn't think like that, don't delude yourself into thinking they're doing it just to benefit their country.

Benefiting the country is just an afterthought for them.

"we're not freinds with russia"

Ok well how about we just leave them the fuck alone and stop this proxy war shit?

Why do you declare diplomacy and democracy useless concepts?

There are many many solutions that don't involve any of what Israel, Saudi Arabia, Rumsfeld, Cheney, and the PNAC are doing - have done.

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Hello! I'm Mohammed Camelfuck and I approve of this discussion!

It makes me so happy to see young white non-Muslims at each others throats - I'd much rather you fight among yourselves than with us, we're more than glad to come in and fuck over what remains.

So in the meantime you take military advice from your great leaders like Jack London and Hillary Clinton and we'll plan your future.

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>>682297710
Holy shit can reasoning be any more retarded. So if I order you to shoot up a school and you don't, you would also by your own definition be "defying order"?

>>682298355
Alright, I see you're decently informed, I'm very interested in this so I'm going to start doing more research on this topic.

Isn't this what that Ruppert guy was talking about? What do you think of him?

Was he assassinated? He seemed to think the opposite, that the US was preparing for WW3 because of peak oil coming

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ruppert

>>682298039

On April 30, 1986, the computing system of the CNUCE Institute of Pisa (CNR) was connected to the US computer network called ARPANET (Advanced Research Projects Agency NETwork).

They didn't create the network they CONNECTED to it and they weren't even the first to do so.

>Anyway, British are European, am I right?

Um ok? I wasn't disagreeing that it was Europeans I was just pointing out that you were wrong.

There's just way too many people in the militarty right now, it's not economically feasible. Just replace them all with drones and exosuits, and put their welfare money into some actual social programs.

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>>682279282
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre
Thank you for this information anon. Never knew this.

>>682292327
>China's economy depends on ours
That's why you got that money from them.

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>>682299664
bin laden raid???????

>>682298638

>But it's still a happening. You're implying if thats not the SOLE motivation, it doesn't exist at all.

I'm certainly not denying that people are getting rich off it but it's far from the reason for our recent involvement in the Middle East.

>but the globalist cabal doesn't think like that, don't delude yourself into thinking they're doing it just to benefit their country.

If you believe in a globalist cabal then why would they be doing it? Are you implying they are just trying to get more money? I'm assuming they are already exceptionally wealthy. It seems a bit far-fetched to me.

>Ok well how about we just leave them the fuck alone and stop this proxy war shit?

Political maneuvering with a deeper meaning centered around the resources of the earth.

>Why do you declare diplomacy and democracy useless concepts?

They are certainly not useless however I believe diplomacy will start to unravel and fail when the resources begin to run out.

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>>682278765
How you enjoying that freedom?

>>682299850
>They are certainly not useless however I believe diplomacy will start to unravel and fail when the resources begin to run out.

...then what happens, when diplomacy fails?

Was Ruppert right? How are we going to defend against a nuclear capable country that's running out of oil, hypothetically? We couldn't just keep doing proxy shit if they get desperate enough...

>>682278765
I get paid to do what I love... Wiping as many brown, impoverished, third-world subhuman fucks off of the face of the planet. No thanks necessary. Maybe I'll get to rape the daughters of one of these camel jockey fucks one day.

>>682299904
you enjoy sitting around with your thumb up your ass all day every day

doing nothing but staring at random shit

for weeks

until one day your limbs suddenly become 50 meters apart from another when you're cruisin

sounds fun!

>>682300519
Pretend I addressed this to you instead

i posted it 1 second too early, damn.

>>682300807
this i mean

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