>>682183637
I don't want to?

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>>682183756
Why not?

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>>682183637
The only cancer meat causes is the cancer that is the elitist vegans. Shut the fuck up about being vega nand get on with your sad life faggot.

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>>682183959
aww babys got his feelings hurt, cuz vegans think hes a a scumfuck.

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Killing is in our nature and in the nature of everything on this planet. It's the circle of life.

You can contribute or not it doesn't matter. If I want to shoot a buffalo, cut it open, skin it, remove its intestines and cook it then I'm gonna do it.

It's part of life, if everyone on earth was vegan we'd have an overpopulation of animals including humans and our plant sources would nearly be extinct.

I like eating meat

I don't believe in the mortal soul and feel nothing from a dead animal. Especially if it's already dead and cooked and in my face.

>>682184472
>overpopulation of animals
>plant sources nearly extinct
Top kek

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>>682184472
Cool story brah, there are 20 billion farm animals while executing 50 billion each year, guess everything is ok.

>>682183637
Because evolution.
Cooked red meat is the main reason we evolved into what we are today.

>>682183694
Vegetarian reporting in. One does not have to kill calf to get milk just separate them from their mother once they are old enough and start milking. Chicken eggs produce no animal harm either. Honey is just ridiculous calm down you extremists.

>>682184689
Ok, so you dont care about other creatures, do you care about climate change or your health?

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I savor the death of my inferiors.

>>682183637
I like meat, it tastes good. I don't care if it causes cancer, everything causes cancer. I don't care if it causes animals to suffer because I have no attachment to them. I don't care if you're vegan so long as you aren't an asshole about it.

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>>682185030
Go watch Earthlings and repeat what you said pls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB_ZMiYy_OQ

It´s just because I'm not a vegan fag.

>>682184891
that doesn't make any sense

just kys

nobody gives a shit you fucking hipster.
If your a weak minded hipster vegan then do that without bothering everyone else.

>>682185417
I own a farm with chickens and goats. We do not kill anything. You need your sources checked.

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>>682185330
Try vegan mock meats, they taste good to. btw animal agricolture fucks up the planet and have fun with your cancer.

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>>682183637

>Whats your excuse of not being vegan, faggots?

Are you under the impression that animals don't die in nature?
Do you think lions and antelopes are sitting in a drum circle singing kumbayah?

Nature is a cruel uncaring bitch animals die of starvation, thirst, disease, predation, they freeze to death in winter, they overheat in summer. We protect them from all of that, we give them shelter and food and water and their species flourish and in exchange when it comes time for them to die we get to eat them.

What do you think would happen to all the farm animals if we stopped eating meat? What would we do with them? We can't just release them into nature it would be an ecological disaster, so realistically we'd have to kill them all, entire species go extinct because you're too much of a pussy to eat a cheeseburger, and that my friend is the end game for vegetarianism, you accomplish nothing and your sanctimony is completely unfounded.

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>>682185654
So you cant comporehend that animals can give birt to more than 1 offspring?

>>682183637
Meat is very tasty and life doesn't have objective intrinsic value.

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>>682186002

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cancer isn't contained in the meat itself. its the way that its cooked. when red meat is exposed to flames, the keratin changes and releases molecules that up the chances of having cancer, they don't give cancer

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>>682185899
Just watch the documentarys i linked, would take to long to explain how wrong your logic is.

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>>682183637
Meat tastes good and it would make no difference if i didn't eat it.

>>682185777
>irrationally

No, it's rational because dogs have much higher intelligence than chickens you fuckwit. Killing a dolphin, or a dog, or a chimp is very bad. Pigs and chickens are dumb as fuck and don't matter at all.

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>>682186281
Guess the world health organisation link i included is wrong, thank you mr scientist you cured cancer!

>>682183637
You idiot you realize farming soy is one of the main reasons why the rainforest and other forests is depleting at such a fast rate. Since they farm soy and only soy the grounds are quickly depleted of their natural resources, then they have to move to another location, so they chop down more. THe ground that is left is good for nothing other than animal grazing, so actually eating meat is probally better than eating things like soy

And oh god those comics are worse than Billy the Heretic, oh ya i'm going to go full on vegan fag because some 12 year old drew a picture, ya for sure bud.

All this ethics bullshit no one gives a shit you're all crazy fags. For example the fur industry is great for the local economy (fur tensd to be grown in the US and Canada then prossed here but your fake fur is done in China and stuff) great for the environment and much higher quality. You Vegan retards are shutting ti down and it makes no sense.

Not only that but this animal heart disease scare is all bullshit, it is true that eating excesive red meat it bad for your heart eating red meat occasionally is very good for you given its high protien concentration and eating chicken and other things is very good. Not only that but given how easy it is to farm animals it is a very good source for providing food to poor areas, such as donating a goat to poor villages.

Animal farming is good for everyone while everyone only eating vegan is very very bad, I hunt regulary and spent a long time on farms I take you vegan fags as a personal failure and insult

>>682183637
I regularly kill chickens for food
every year I attempt to kill either an elk or deer for food, and I am usually successful
the only reason I don't kill pigs and steers for food is because my family is not large enough to eat all the edible bits before they go bad
every animal I eat is killed because of me
I own that
I am not ashamed of that

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>>682186375

Too long is a cute way of saying, I can't defend my position so I'm copping out.

I say that animals may be better off in captivity then they are in the wild. What do you say to that?

Clearly you could point to veal calves and the like in rebuttal; but what about free range cattle on good land? Are they not better off under the protection of man then they would be getting eaten by wolves?

>>682186824
I actually want to live like that one day, grow my own crops too. It's sad i can't do that in a city and won't ever get a job that allows me to move to the country side.

>>682183637
Oh great another Prophet.

>>682186699
What else do your expect from a group of people who spell "organization" with an "s"?

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>>682186467
Cool logic brah, so its okay that a person much smarter than you kills you?

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I enjoy eating meat. Fuck off.

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>>682183637
No excuse at all, I wholly support the meat industry because of the damage it does do. Fuck the future. I don't have a dog in that fight. If I can help the planet burn while chowing on a double double, that's win/win.

But unless you are growing your own complete vegan diet, you're contributing to help the world burn too. Don't think for one fucking second any aspect of agriculture is even remotely disconnected from petroleum. So sit on your high horse and chew on that carrot that came from agriculture. At least I'm honest enough to admit and embrace what the fuck I'm doing.

The simple fact is human beings evolved to eat a wide variety of foodstuffs, meat being a central category. Just because we have the ability to nourish ourselves without any animal products doesn't mean we should. Further, some nutrients, such as vitamin b12, before the advent of modern tech were ONLY available from animal products. That says something.

Plus, and this most of all, I really enjoy meat and animal products.

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"winning an argument against an intelligent person is hard but winning one against an idiot is impossible" christ is it ever true

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>>682186801
More than 95% of soy is used to feed livestock do you even logic brah?

why are other animals allowed to kill and eat animals, but once a human does it, faggots get their panties in a bunch.

bears will chill by a stream and eat salmon and fish all day. they are not looked at badly.

a bird will swoop down and eat a worm naturally. no one looks at the bird like it is morally wrong.

a lion does lion shit in the savannah. its just seen as a lion doing lion shit.

But a human kills animals for food while ensuring that the species is not wiped out. and hurr durr, we got ourselves a moral quandary

>>682187117
Enjoy your cancer, heart disease, and a fucked up planet for your children, but i bet you dont care about those eather.

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>>682184243
Calm down, troll.

>>682187745
Becouse the planet will go to shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi5Xxe7mIvw

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>>682187924

This lame thread again, I'll bite.

>Vitamin B12

Inb4 supplements, it has been proven they do not contain very much biologically active b12

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>>682187843

you see how you smell bacon and it inherently smells good?

or how when you chew a burger, you found it tasted pleasant? the fried chicken tasted pretty neat.

That is because you are naturally disposed to enjoying meat. its biology man. Nature dictated it so.

Now the way people maintain and treat these animals when they farm them could be fucked up, but the fact that you liek eating meat is perfectly natural.


also to swerve the conversation, the first guy in the webcomic is wrong. It is the equivalent of the nazi soldiers claiming they weren't at fault because they were ordered to.

They were in control of there actiosn and had the choice to do it or not. they chose to do it

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>>682187992
if you expect me to see some 1.5 hour movie in subtitles with a stupid name as cowspiracy that will without a doubt have a stupid argument that may complain about the method we domisticate animals, but not argue why we shouldn't consume meat products in general

then you got another thing coming, cuz i aint watching shit

>>682187545
Ok first of all that is false, while it is true that a lot of soy is being fed to animals the reason soy is rising and farmers are getting mroe desperate is ebcause of the global rise in soy caused by a gerater demand for HUMANs.

Second its not just soy though any type of heavy mono crop farming is very very bad, most of the and second of all farmers do not give animals high end foods it is simply not econimic. They give animals scraps of feed that can not be consumed by humans. If a farmer can sell a product for a higher price to humans then it will, animals are like machines stupid, senless machines, they convert less desibrale product into something edible.

>>682187336
Wrong, b12 was in fresh water before filtering tap water was invenbte and b12 is a side product of bacteria so if you dont wash your vegetables once or twice a month you will get your b12. Or just buy fortified vegan food with b12 or supplements. Its dirt cheap. Farm animals are fed with b12 supplements becouse they dont get enough from the filtered water and processed food they get.

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>>682188080
Pictures inflame the anus, I see.

>>682183637
Veganism and vegetarianism solves nothing. The problem isn't eating meat, it's overpopulation and capitalism that is fucking the world up. The meat industry is only one part of the problem.

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>>682189089
>another communist kiddo
>surprise.png

Meat taste good. So I eat it.
All I care about in this world is pleasure you fuckwit
Know why you play video games , fap, or watch TV? Its pleasurable.
Now dont bring up drugs... Cuz yes I do them but have quit.

All I care about is what makes me happy. Would I like for the animals to be killed in a batter manner? Yes
But either way OP is a gigantic faggot who has probably never tasted a lick of beer because he is a neurotic dumbass..

>>682188672
The only sources I can find on your b12 claim come from vegan propaganda forums. Nice try.

>>682188466
Wrong, soy is fed to billions of farm animals and pigs cows eat much more than a human.

http://www.fao.org/agriculture/lead/themes0/deforestation/en/

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>>682183637
actually i used to love the movie gremlins. its still ok but not the best movie I've ever seen. anyway. i met this girl who also loves the movie gremlins. she said that it reminds her of her childhood. and for some reason the mogwai really turn her on. i ask how thats possible. the mogwai have absolutely no sexual features. no rounded ass, no raised breasts, no genetalia of any type. could it possibly be the fact that they transform into those slimy green gremlins? what is it? she refused tell me. i spent many nights afterwards watching gremlins and hoping maybe to get turned on a little bit. one night i got half a chub but I've since realized that was most likely just the air conditioner. eventually i couldnt take the mystery anymore. i MUST know what turns her on about the movie gremlins, if for no other reason than i want to be able to fuck a mogwai in the comfort of my own home. why should she be able to get so turned on by gremlins but I'm not even allowed to experience it? i corner her. she backs up. scared. my slow approach has her shaking and asking, "logan, whats gotten into u?" i tell her this is the end of the line. she must tell me why gremlins makes her pussy drip. here and now is the time or she will die by my average sized cock. I can tell that she's finally about to tell me, she's finally about to break. she takes a deep breath and dramatic music begins to play from the lunch room loud speakers across from mrs. shabotski's 5th grade class ( this was the song: http://youtu.be/dPiEVyd3-4k ) above the dulcid tones she tells me the thing i swore never to repeat. but i will tell it to you hear bros. i will tell it to you from my death bed. i will tell you the sexiest thing I've ever heard. that girl lets the real life gizmo live in her pussy. shit gets wild after midnight.

>>682189284
eh not really, communism wouldn't solve much either.

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>>682189322
So nutritionfacts.org is a vegan propaganda forum, cool story brah.

Dont forget that plants produce green house gases too. For instance when rice grows it produces methane. Deforestation to grow crops.

Read Collapse by Jared Diamond. Historical evidence shows the reason most societies collapse is the adoption of agriculture.

Because fuck off. I like meat. So fuck you and your stupid shit.

>>682189843
Enjoy your estrogen from soy you cuck. What are your lifts like?

>>682189843
Yes

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

Why do I care about animals ? I eat meat literally atleast once a day.

>>682183637
Is life worth cultivating?
If not, then why does it matter if living organisms are killed for any reason?
If it is worth cultivating, then it must be better to be born solely for the purpose of being food for another living organism that to not be born at all
the global cattle population is ~1 billion
roughly half of those are dairy cattle, and half are meat cattle
that is ~1 billion lives that would not exist if everyone were vegan, and ~500 billion that would just be slaughtered and buried because they can not produce milk if everyone were ova-lactovore vegetarians
the meat producing cattle have a 100% turn over every 2 years, so that is 1 billion lives every 4 years because of human meat consumption
that is just considering cattle
pigs, sheep, goats, chickens, and turkeys raised for food are much more populous that cattle and have a higher reproduction rate than cattle
so because we eat meat there are well over 500 billion lives every century that would not otherwise exist

>>682187062

All humans are at around the same level of intelligence. Einstein is much closer to the guy on the street than either of them are to a cow. If a being as smart compared to me as a human compared to a chicken killed me, that would be morally acceptable.

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>>682189286
Vegan mock meats are as good if not better in taste if made properly. Have fun fapping with dead pig dick in your mouth, that you eat form if grinded meat and sausages LOL

>>682185777
>speciesism
Are you okay with inter-species relationships/marriages?

If you say no, you are a speciesist.

>>682183637
>Whats your excuse of not being vegan, faggots?

Why does a dog lick his balls?

Because he can.

Does this answer your question?

>>682190308
If it were socially acceptable and people tasted good they'd also be on the menu.

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>>682189843
>Instead of supplement the animals' feed and then consume the animal flesh, why not take a supplement ourselves

Because you stupid shit that's not how it works. If you have ever been on a farm you would know animals don't get served grade a product because it is just too expensive. Instead animals animals are fed things that people (like your faggot ass) won't buy, like the deformed oranges or very cheap product or things that humans cannot consume like grass. If it were that simple it would be done but once again animals are simple machines that convert non edible food into edible foods

This thread is dumb you're a retard and it is bait. TOmorow i'm shooting a squirrel for OP

>>682185899
>picture implying mcdonalds uses any cow meat in those burgers

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>>682183637
Because meat is provided to us as an easier source of sustenance than vegetables. Once we realize its easier and more efficient to go vegan, I'll join them.

>>682186398
HOLY SHIT why did i laugh so hard at that fucking picture

>>682190308
So its ok to kill you if lets say becouse of an accident you go back to the intelligance of a 3 year old?

Because meat is good for you

>abloo hoo, muh social construct

veganfags are as bad as scientologists.

>>682184891
Gooooonna need to see a source there bud. Some faggot ass study that probably makes up numbers to create "facts" making a poster for liberal arts students to mail them some of daddy's money isn't gonna cut it

>>682189843
>99% of 40% of people with b12 deficiency are no new-vegans

Lies lies lies

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v64/n9/full/ejcn2010142a.html

>>682190699
don't forget that meat is a means of converting plants that are indigestible to humans into meat that is digestible by humans

>>682190810
Yes.
If I were stuck at the intelligence of a 3 year old I would welcome the euthanasia. My life would be utterly worthless in such a state.

We're omnivorous creatures, I'm not morally obligated to avoid eating flesh just because I'm capable of understanding the cruelty that comes with it. It's just nature, animals eat animals

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>>682183637
Because I like eating meat.

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>>682183637
Don't need no fucking excuses you self righteous cunt. and fuck your Jew-tube vidya links too.

>>682184031
>equating eating other animals with eating humans

can vegans get any more retarded?

>>682190810
There is a final solution for people with the intelligence of a 3 year old, but luckily for OP it is not in place

Vegans are such saints. I mean the animals do rule the world after all who are we puny humans to deny that? Killing your body by non digesting the indispensable amino acids is the way to save those animals. Bet it feels great to kill yourself one step at a time. Hey you know what why don't you guys go the whole way, a gun to the head means one less bullet killing a wild animal or a knife to the gut means one less animal dead in the slaughterhouse. Let's show them evil omnivorous how we rebel!

>>682183637
i dont believe theres anything wrong with killing animals for food, we are omnivores, its what we do. the only thing i take issue with is how the animals are treated. but my love for meat simply outweighs how much i care about the animals.

Because I'm not a whiny little bitch

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>>682183959
so fucking true

>>682191341
We kill ourselves in many other ways, why does this matter to you so much? Are you that retarded?

>>682190092
Estrogen in soy does nothing to men.

http://www.pcrm.org/health/cancer-resources/ask/ask-the-expert-soy

Pretty good.

http://freefromharm.org/health-nutrition/patrik-baboumian-strength-is-compassion/

>>682183637
I don't want to have to remind someone of my veganity every five seconds.

>>682184891
kek we sure are fucking up our environment, but we wont need 3 more earths to keep up with demand.

>>682185417
This is only about corporate production. Free range organic farms do not have these problems.

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Regular consumption of meat won't lead to a shorter life. There are literally 120 year olds who've lived in China, where simply breathing is like smoking a pack of cigarettes daily, and they also ate meat.

>>682191401
So paying a retard rednek to stab a defensless animal and you buying the corpse is making you a badass? Grow up kid...

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>>682191822
here's your (you)

>>682191467
Kek you mad brev?

>>682188672
Yeah what he other guy said. Back your shit up unless it's untrue and homosex

>>682186281
kek, image saved. her fucking face.

>>682183637
I'm gay. Like cum slut, sissy, degenerate, pay to suck a cock gay. But I'm still not enough of a faggot to be vegan, because that's faggot shit.

>>682190654

/thread

No seriously, vegans, are you willing to give up all the convenient stuff that's produced from ingredients that come from dead animals?

If you're really so concerned about animals, you should.

>>682191593
So smoking does not cause cancer cuz there are some dudes who lived till 100 while smoking? Guess nuclear radiation isnt harmfull eather becouse some people die from it.

>>682190654
Everything on the list can be, and are made without killing.

http://www.onegreenplanet.org/news/animal-agriculture-wastes-finite-resources-according-to-new-ime-report/

>>682192614

And does it cost the same?

Fucking fuck vegans. Veganism does not confer ANY health benefits, and it actually is harmful to mental health:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/
Veganism also barely confers any protection against heart disease, the type of protection taking 10 minutes of your time to go for a walk would confer. Stop being pretentious assholes..

What job do you do OP its very relevant

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Fuck Vegans

>>682183637
i raise my own chickens and few goat, they live pretty well and are free ranged, any other meat i eat is wild game that i hunt or fish that i catch fresh from lakes or stream. as for the vegies i eat all of them are either grown by me or local farmers. i am an omnivore find enjoy the perks that come with it by eating meat. sure there are other ways to get protein and iron but i dont care for them. i dont eat lots of fruits because theyre high in fructose sugar so i dont get enough vit c to absorb large quantities of iron from leafy greens. also i weigh about 200lbs, to maintain my lean muscle mass i need to eat 220g of protein a day, this extremely hard to do when on a vegan diet and even harder when you dont believe in eating soy or soy by-products. now fuck off PETA.

>>682192192
Please explain how buying meat at a shop makes you manly and cool? By this logic bullys and animal abusers should be accapted in sociaty and greeted as heroes, becous they prey on the weak.

>>682191822
No. Paying a man with the constitutions to kill up close with a pneumatic piston(think "No Country for Old Men" it's literally that thing) to end its life instantaneously and humanely so that my family can have healthy lean beef protein instead of being huge faggots on the Internet.

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>>682183637
Listen well, asswipe.

You do not get to lecture people when you have nothing to say. Meat eating is not a disaster in the world we live in: it's a disaster in your naive world view, because you do not understand reality. There is no moral combat here: most things on this planet eat meat because it's efficient. And when you have some 7,419,494,903 people on this planet, which over half are malnourished it kinda turns out that vegetarism isn't possible. Because it's inefficient.
And then there's the thing about society values, traditions and laws -the very same things which prevent us from lynching you. Ridiculous, right?

>>682193215
All the flowers you eat have stunted brain development you illiterate hippie

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>>682183637
b8

>>682183637
because I understand the way life works.

>>682193302
Aww baby thinks hes cool to pay a psycho to kill a defensless creature cuz hes to much of a pussy to do it himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oTCA9V3eNs

Those comics are incredibly preachy and cringe worthy but logic behind most of them is spot on.

It really hard to defend eating animals as ethical thing to do - in our developed economy, where we could easily swap meat for other types of food.

Still we didn't do this, because it is easier to eat what you know and like.

>>682193567
Do you even know what logic is?

>>682193907
wow the voice of that narrator is so fucking whiny. Wonder how much it costs to hire a pissbaby like that.

>>682183637
>>682183637
Because I don't have gender dysphoria, a messiah complex, a superiority complex, and I want to live a quality life where my testosterone levels don't fall to that of a woman. Gynecomastia isn't as funny as it looks

>>682193969
Yes, its really hard to pick something else in the super market.

>>682194031
Do you even know what mental health is http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/

There is no reason to assume that just because someone is vegan or not vegan it is unhealthy. Most people that are not vegan don't know how to feed themselves correctly so I can assure you that most people who are vegan don't know how to feed them selves correctly.

>>682194093
It takes about 6 minutes in a homosexual BDSM scat orgy

>>682183637
Im talking to george bush, and even he thinks this shit is stupid

>>682193907
Is that another one of those videos that's gonna make me say,"neat! I always wondered how my food makes it from the field to the store! What an awesome industry to make sure there are plenty of local jobs in a high skilled setting that you can feel good about knowing you're providing food to the rest of the workforce in the world that can afford food and aren't jobless hippies trying to make everyone else feel bad because they can't afford a nice cut of juicy medium rare steak"

what about all of the living bacteria that you are killing when you eat plants

>>682194103
Soy does no impact testosterone levels.

Because of the phytoestrogen content, some studies have suggested that soybean ingestion may influence testosterone levels in men. However, a 2010 meta-analysis of 15 placebo controlled studies showed that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable testosterone or estrogen concentrations in men.[166] It has been hypothesized that soy foods and enterolactone may increase the development of prostate cancer although no significant associations were observed for the soy isoflavones.[167] Furthermore, soy consumption has been shown to have no effect on the levels and quality of sperm.[168] A 2009 meta-analysis of the research on the association between soy consumption and prostate cancer risk in men concluded that "consumption of soy foods is associated with a reduction in prostate cancer risk in men."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybean

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>>682192339
>Nuclear Radiation isnt harmful either because some people die from it

>>682194673
>phytoestrogen
You fucking cretin what the fyck I wasn't saying soy did SHIT U IDIOT, but a vegan diet decreases testosterone u fagglord
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181

>>682183637
i like eating meat. none of the links concern me

>>682194673
Paging Doctor Fagglord Paging Doctor Faglord, don't make assumptions u pretentious shitlicker

>>682194897
Like an intelligent human being

>>682194673
Actually, soy foods decrease prostate cancer risk.

>>682183637
I am Human.
Humans are Omnivores.
Thread closed.

>>682191593
regular consumption would be about 2-5% of your diet.

and the fact that there exists a few 120 year olds among 1.5 billion people within the borders of a huge ass country where some of the cities are extremely polluted doesn't mean fuck all.

>>682195103
Actually THATS WHAT HE FUCKING SAID

>>682195103
That's what Monsanto wants you to think

>>682183637
I eat them because I'm not a hipster faggot.
The sun also gives us cancer, so am I going to completely exclude myself from natural light?
Heart Disease is also caused by genetics, so am I supposed to go back in time and have my father, with a family history of heart disease, not have sex with my mother?
Cars, trains, motorboats and planes also emit greenhouse gasses, so am I supposed to use horse-drawn carriages and sailboats to traverse the vast distances of the world?

No, because that shit's not how I work.

>>682183637
Being vegan because of the meat industry is like whacking your tater exclusively to the JC Penny catalog exclusively because you're disgusted with the porn industry.

>>682183637
If being a vegan causes me to devolve to a level of subhuman pissbaby complaint machine, I'll take my bacon cheeseburger medium well.

>>682183637
I'm not a faggot

>>682185099
No

>>682195254
CONGRATULATIONS U PASSED THE NOT FUCKING RETARDED TEST, AND GUESS WHAT, WE WILL PUT YOU THROUGH THE "DO YOU HAVE A BRAIN TEST TOO" GUESS WHAT YOU PASSED!!!!!!!

>>682195147
/thread

>>682195254
I think the sodium in food contributes to heart disease WAY more than the fat in meat. The meat isn't an extreme source of sodium either.

>>682194389
Yes we should destroy the planet and pay someone to rebuild it. It will be good for the economy! Do you have any idea how much damage animal agriculture causes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi5Xxe7mIvw

>>682195326
Medium rare is better imo. But hey. You do you as long as you don't stop doing you to appease this faggot.

>>682195572
>nd planes also emit greenhouse gasses, so am I supposed to use horse-drawn carriages and sailboats to traverse the vast distances of the world?
>No, because that shit's not
It doesn't, it creates jobs idiot.

>>682194745
Nuclear Radiation isnt harmful either because some people dont* die from it

>>682190654
Wait, refined sugar comes from COW BONES?!
I've heard of grinding one's bones to make their bread, but that's just ridiculous!

>>682191593
> There are literally 120 year olds who've lived in China, where simply breathing is like smoking a pack of cigarettes daily, and they also ate meat.
there are also people in china who kill themselves, so that should mean that killing yourself is not harmful to your health, as some people in china are 120 year old.

unless, of course, your way of reasoning is flawed somehow.

>>682195572
Is there really a point in having a planet if you can't use it for everyday normal things. Do you think that because of farming and fossil fuels the planet is just going to not be there one day. Use your damned head. Until people can grow meat and solar power everything on the damned planet farming and fuel is the best we got.

>>682185736
95% of milk and eggs are coming from big corporate factory farms, and they kill them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB_ZMiYy_OQ

>>682195977
HURR DURR DURR, CORPERATION, MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, WEALTH INEQUALITY, GOVERNMENT CONTROL ILLUMINATI NEW WORLD ORDER HURRDY FUCKING DURR

>>682191568
95% of milk and eggs are coming from factory farms. Free range is not sustainable for 7 billion humans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi5Xxe7mIvw

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>>682195697
Everyone knows that medium is the best for bugers, but rare is the best for steaks

Lets change this thread to a burger thread

>>682196166
95% of ur brain is not there

Because meat is fucking delicious.

>>682194845
>oh nos muh penus wil disappear
it decreases testosterone in no significant way. it's not like you're going to sprout vaginas and tits, you insecure fuckhead. you're going to be just like you always was, but healthier, and probably not as much of a retard.

>>682185736
That is not what we're talking about

>>682196166
Thou art a hoebag

>>682188411
Than watch it while taking a shit with a phone or something.

>>682196299
Still a significant decrease, which can result in decreased mood, a weird emotional effect, and decrease physical performance(in two ways)

>>682195977
That literally sounds like the best thing ever. I bet it's super efficient too. Imagine how much milk and eggs would cost if one farmer had to milk each cow once a day and make daily rounds to the chicken coop for eggs. Wow! What a time to be alive!

What kind of job do you do OP?

>>682196200
Son, were doing the lords work here. Save the beef argument for when we're done.

>>682196563
retard

>>682196299
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/
Also this shit faggit

Hey OP. Farming anything destroys the natural earth. That includes your vegetables.

Human beings are a parasite on the earth and the only way to stop it is to kill all humans.

If you feel so strongly about this then you can start by offing yourself.

Otherwise, stop trying to dictate what others should do based on your own beliefs. You're worse that a jehovah door caller.

>>682196764
Ahh name calling without any more evidence, the sign of defeat.

>>682196880
Do you know what sustainable means?

What kind of work do you do OP?

>>682196880
Yea if op care so much about animals, he should just end it, so that ONE WHOLE PERSON MORE IS NOT POLLUTING OUR CORRUPT EARTH HURR DURR

>>682196701
Taxi driver

I would have to eat at least a 1 gallon bucket of food every day as a vegan

>>682196701
I think he is a male prostitue

>>682197217
No you dont, just check out some vegan youtube channels on what to eat.

>>682197217
Don't forget, every vegans trick to protein, you have to suck at least 69 cocks or 420 vegan cocks

>>682195254
Shit, almost forgot another important side of this coin.

So let's imagine that we DID actually end all meat-related industries. First off, good luck trying to do that. That's a very large food industry right there with many, many companies getting their hands on it. Now for if this DID happen, congratulations: You just put millions of people in the US alone out of jobs. And that's just for fast food! Let's also consider the farmers, the factory workers, the chefs, the waiters. Millions of restaurants and fast food joints NEED meat and meat byproducts to be able to make a product. Oh, and some of that food you think is safe from byproducts? They more than likely still have them in there. Say goodbye to colored pasta and fruit-flavored confectioneries with carmine, made from a ground-up insect. Say goodbye to marshmallows, jell-o (and similar products) and frosted cereals with gelatin.Say goodbye to MORE confectioneries with glucose from animal tissues and fluids. I can do this for quite a while, but TL;DR: We have created a society that NEEDS the killing of animals. Too late to change anything, and don't expect anything worthwhile to come out of your endeavors.

>>682183637
Murder tastes good.

>>682197417
Closet homo detected

>>682197454
Don't forget on the vegan side ,HMM i never liked my muscles anyway, why not grow a bit of breast tissue, depression never sounded too bad,

>>682183637


It used to be intelligent shitposters made these threads with some credible, intelligent arguments. Now we have you.

>>682197105
No, tell me all about how to sustainabley farm vegetables to feed the entire population of humans on earth and not just a tiny niche market of holier than thou vegans and hipsters.

>>682197556
Vegan homo detected

>>682197343
As a vegan what would you eat if you needed to eat around 250 - 300 calories, low sodium, and the rest of your given nutritional recommendations with a bit of protein every 2 to 3 hours

>>682195557
Colesterol is the main cause of heart disease that is only in animal products, just check out the links.

>>682190810
You shitting me? I'd welcome death at that point if I could wrap my head around it.

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>>682197216
Kill urself

>>682196922
Whoever does these cartoons is really lazy. 90% of them are just the same drawing over and over but with different dialogue and sometimes minor changes the the picture.

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>>682183637
My uncle owns a Mink and Chinchilla fur far. We kill hundreds of thousands of Mink and Chinchilla, monthly. Mostly humanely.

There's a huge demand for Mink and Chinchilla product in the fashion industry. Lucrative for us, lucrative for them. We provide an honest service to the public - because the public demands it.

It's called supply and demand.

>>682197454
Eating Vegan is way more expensive than otherwise. To live on minimum wage is to not be Vegan.

Source; cousins are Vegan

>>682183637
Dont worry OP. Im vegan and im better off this way. Im a caretaker with tigers and other exotic and almost extinct animals. I dont wanna die either with cancer or too much protein.

>>682197606
http://www.greatveganathletes.com/bodybuilders

cool story brah

>>682197457
Also, I imagine that cattle, pig, chicken, etc. numbers would plummet. So if you cared about animals you wouldn't want that right?

>>682197216
Assuming you actually are OP
the reason why you are a vegan is because you dont need the energy that real people do you sit down all day expending 0 energy compared to say a blocklayer or a carpenter or landscape gardeners yo name a few.
Off the top of my head the average male needs around 2500-3000 calories a day not taking into account what they do all day now just imagine eating half your body weight in grass and building a house.
now while its fine that you're a freak and eat flowers all day please consider the people who have built your house the roads you drive on chopped the wood that made your bed frame or sofa etc etc and the people who ate meat most days while they were shaping the countries that allow people like me to cook amazing steak and people like you to eat daises

>>682197877
Depends on what you buy and how you cook. Generally its cheaper just check out the prices yourself. Depends where you buy the ingridents to.

>>682198221
>
Also he has no penis

This is gay

>>682197319
Do you think instead of swallowing he releases the sperm into the wild?

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>>682185030
I agree veal tastes great

>>682198344
So was ur mom light night

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>>682186467
Not vegan or anything, but pigs are smart you little shit.

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>>682189089
/thread

>>682198398
He filters the sperm and releases them into the wild, and absorbs the other amino acids present in the semen

>>682198248
No, California is actually more expensive to be Vegan. It's not actually cheaper to be Vegan, especially since we have to buy proteins like nuts and induced protein meals.

>>682183637
Shit, I LOVE replying to bait!
I eat animals because I want to. We live in a human society, animals are below us, we breed them and keep them alive as livestock until it's time for them to die and serve as our food. That's their purpose, that's why they were born. Animals have inherently less rights in our society, if fucking cows had built a society and were keeping humans as livestock then that'd be that, but that's simply not the case.

Every time I see a vegan thread I eat twice the meat I was going to just to spite you.

Keep indirectly murdering cows with your shitposting, these burgers are delicious.

>>682197974
Too bad many of these same people you list use Steroids. Someone who eats meat has a much easier time achieving these results than a Vegan.

>>682187062
Ummm, no its a completely different plane of intelligence

>>682198762
>with
Thank you

>>682198467
So the animals that are no longer managed will be eaten alive by coyotes and wolves? sounds much better than a quick death

>>682198467
im.....im not sure i understand the argument here ?

also they like to ignore the fact that in most of the world being vegan is very expensive and there for not an option

>>682183637
I m a vegetarian, I only eat meat from animals that eat vegetables

To fucking spite you, that's why.

>>682198221
Actually i train mma 3 times a week for 2 hours and hitting the gym once a week for 3 hours and have planty of energy. Im not eating grass, just look up what a vegan diet can look like before assuming stupid shit.

>>682198735
ENJOY YOUR HEART ATTACK, FAT ASS!

INT op links to videos containing various statements made by some people to proselytize a biased agenda

>>682199362
ENJOY UR VAGINA FAGLORD

Why is it that vegans act like people that eat meat eat ONLY meat?

>>682199362
Considering I only weigh like 145 and maintain a very high activity rate and since red meat makes up a small portion of my meat diet, I don't see that happening.

Enjoy your nutrient deficiencies, mental instability, and shortened lifespan.

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>>682199344
If you ever feel like boxing, let me know. I'll show you how meat-eaters fight.

protip: start training.

>>682198626
Can you calculate it for me? But think like this, is it worth it to eat cheaper cancer and heart disease causing food than a bit more expensive healty food?

>>682199344
Actually you sit on your ass all weak driving people around in your taxi because you are too retard to do anything better than your life other than complain about animals getting killed on the internet and driving people around like a cuck

>>682199344
Being beaten by your abusive 3"4 girlfriend isn't mma training

>>682199714
Plants cause cancer too.

When we spray all our shit with Roundup it doesn't matter what you eat.

>>682183637
Pic has juvenile emo kid, in hoodie.

Exactly why I will never be vegan.

>>682191181
what seperates humans from other animals?

>>682188140
First off, i want to say i'm not a vegan, i just want to point out how stupid your argument is: You realize that the majority of foods which are the best for your body actually, generally, taste like shit, right? Nobody fucking likes salad, if they say they do, they generally actually mean they like dressing. But salad is probably one of the best things for your body (not the shitty ice lettuce salads they sell at the store, but a spinach salad or other dark leafy green is amazing for your body). Or take for example, water: Water doesn't taste good at all, but it's one of the best things you can put in your body. However, soda is shitty for your body, and it tastes great. Basically what i'm saying is, don't be a dumbass.

If I go vegan will it stop my balls from chafing when I run.

>>682183637
im not a retard

>>682199032
Wrong

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/1997/08/us-could-feed-800-million-people-grain-livestock-eat

>>682199621
shortened lifespan? us vegans live about 10 years longer than you meat eating savage fags. you think it's all fun and games to kill intelligent animals? how about I slowly boil you like they do cats and dogs. they say the slow death forces the animals to release adrenaline, which makes the meat "more flavorful". let's see how you taste, you fat deviant.

>>682199344
I know what a vegan diet is I'll list the foods I know OK
Grass
Daises
Cardboard
Arrogance
Pretentiousness
Shit
An overinflated sense of self worth
More shit
Cock

>>682200061
Doubt it.

>>682200085
Huh, ten percent of our population? What do we do about the other ninety?

>>682199864
>>682199714
Average life span for men is 71. Average life span for females is 73. Men and women have lived to be 100+ years old, and they ate meat their entire lives. I'm pretty fit, regularly exercise, and no one in my family tree has gotten cancer in my direct line. I'm fine.

One of my cousins however could not get enough diet efficiency because of her own body betraying her. She followed the procedures for eating healthy and full for Vegans, but had to switch to Vegetarian because her body does not let her get as much protein. It costs too much to intake it through Vegan means, so she had to start eating eggs and fish because it's less expensive.

>>682199637
Dont care about one dimensional fighting, sorry.

>>682199714
I pretty much just eat chicken rice and veggies already. It comes out to about 4 dollars a day at six small meals. chicken costs 7$ bag lasts three days 1.75 Two bags of frozen veggies, and rice1.96 a bag lasts 6 days. My math could be wrong. What would be a good replacement for the chicken vegan wise OP

>>682199749
Whats your profession?