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So what's the story on herbal incense/spice? From what I
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So what's the story on herbal incense/spice?
From what I hear, it's totally legal.
How do I ask my head shop for it without getting kicked out?
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Some of the artwork on these packs looks straight up cringey.
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Don't even care if you're trolling do not do this shit you will regret even once is very very harmful but if you absolutely need to Yolo try everything once I urge you to only do it once and never fuck with it again.
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>>681763462
Just walk in and ask? I wouldn't do it though OP. I see too many people come into the ED fucked up in a bad way.

>am er nurse
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>>681763747
What did it do to you?
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>>681763462
Just ask where the "legal highs" are
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>>681763818
Enlighten us, brother.
>>681763945
The hippie dude that runs it is very sensitive about shit like this, he's had a lot of heat on him in the past.
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People are still using this shit?
Some people love it, some people hate it.
If you're going to try it for
>FUCKS SAKES
Start small. Smoke a hitters worth, no more. Sit on it for 5 minutes. If you're good, smoke another.
The fuckers going to the ER are treating it like it's weed and doing huge bong rips. Once you've smoked a bit try to remember that you are NOT going to die, because it's likely you may feel that way.

Good fucking luck, man.
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>>681764140
I've had patients who have smoked k2 or spice come in and have seizures for hours until we get enough ativan into them. Like 2 months ago this 15 year old came in and wouldnt stop vomiting/ seizing until we gave them propofol to calm down. It's scary shit
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Also, just look around. If they have the shit point at it and say "Can I get one of those?"
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>>681764310
My friend literally died from smoking this shit. It gave her a heart attack.

Dont smoke this shit. When you end up in the ER, the doctors will tell you the same thing.
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>>681764407
>>681764310
>>681764658
>What's in this shit, man?
What makes them freak out like that?
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>>681764407
>>681764658
this.
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>>681763933
It's not even like a fun high. You get higher from smoking pot. It's been so long I can't quite explain exactly what itshe like but I smoked quite a bit of it and it's my biggest regret I have never felt the same. I remember the first time I did it it was before I had ever even smoked weed and it was like a weird 3D movie. My friend kept like shadow boxing not getting near my face with his punches but it was like my body had to react because I thought i was going to get punched even though I know ew he wasn't going to hit me. I had to close my eyes because I just couldn't handle reacting. It was sort of fun so I got a little hooked and smoked that shit steady for a while. Every time I could feel it just damaging my brain it's straight chemicals dude it's just fucked up i was like 16 and I fucked up bad doing this shit.
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Just take one or two hits from a pipe. Don't bong or vape it. You'll be fine.
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two useless stories
they banned the shit in TN some years back

>got some in Crossville at a tattoo parlor, rolled one, smoked it, ended up driving three hours west to Nashville when I only lived 45 minutes east in Knoxville. SO HIGH

>got pulled over and car searched, they said "wheres the rest of that weed to that shake in your floorboard". I says, "that's not weed its herbal incense my friend spilled in the car". They reply with, "you know its still illegal though". I says, "well I bought it at a indian gas station in Chattanooga, so it must not be too illegal". They handed my i.d. and paperwork back, told me, "have a nice night"

FUCK THE POLICE AND THE WAR ON DRUGS! LEGALIZE IT ALL!!! EVERYTHING IS READILY AVAILABLE ANYHOW. FAILED WAR IS FAIL'D
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>>681764658
Did that person smoke a little or a lot? Even a bowls worth is a lot in the case of spice.
Wouldn't shock me if they panicked themselves to death. I saw lots of people work themselves up like crazy when they were on it. Have a chest spasm, think it's a heart attack, and so it becomes one via them freaking out.
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>>681763462
dont fucking smoke that shit its horrible for you. just get real weed you beta fuck.
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>>681764738
I don't know exactly what's in it tbh. I just know people are stupid with it. We had a 250lb guy come in and we had 4 or 5 security guards holding him down to I could get an IV on him to sedate him. The fact the we had to give propofol to a 15 year old is sad. for those who don't know, it's a heavy sedative that they usually use when they put people in medically induced comas
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>>681764738
Chemicals. You're smoking chemicals sprayed onto an herby substance to mimic legitimate marijuana. It's illegal in some states now, because of how many people have died using it.
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this stuff is the biggest tard drug of all time
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>>681764738
Part of it is the expectation that it's going to kill them from all the bad word on the street. Part of it is that it's just not like weed, and people expect it to be.
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>>681764939
Her friends said they were all sitting around laughing, and she just stopped, clutched at her chest, told them to call the paramedics, so they bolted out the window. She died alone in her room with Pink Floyd playing on her stereo.
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>>681763462
don't fucking do it, jesus christ
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/spice_product/
I used to take 600-1000 mg doses of DPH to trip out of my mind, and even I'm saying this shit is stupid
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>>681765205
That sounds like causality.
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>>681764310
I would sit on it for 10-25 min after a couple hits. Sometimes, depending on the person, it takes a while for any effects to kick in. And when you smoke too much it's always the same outcome. People glued to the couch/floor/toilet sick as shit throwing up non stop. The high, even when you smoke a little, is pretty crappy.
I would rather have some crappy Brooklyn brown gutter seed weed that was transported in fish guts than smoke this. If your trying to find something cheap and legal then get your Lean on. Just mix it pink not purple and ur good. Or find some cheap weed. Or get some random to buy you some alcohol.
Seen way to many nights ruined for people cuz of this crap.
But I knew one guy who fucking loved the crap and smoked it literally everyday. So To each his own I guess.
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>>681763462
Ask for bath salts pussy ass buttsquirt
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>>681765297
It sounds like a fucking obituary, anon.

If you're going to do it, then fuck off and do it pussy. If you're not, and you want to sit here debating this should we shouldnt we scenario, then stop debunking peoples REAL LIFE stories and listen to their warnings.

tl;dr fuck off and do it already.
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>>681765315
Right, man. 10-25 minutes may be a better window.
My cousin is like your guy. He goes long distance to find the shit and it's all he smokes. I personally agree with you that it's not worth it. I never enjoyed my time on spice. Not really at all.
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>>681765451
I'm not trying to debunk your story, but if a guy has a heart attack while he's on a roller coaster it doesn't mean the coaster killed him.
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>>681764793
>>681764868
>>681764865
>>681765024
Good to know.
>>681764976
>wanting to avoid dealing with niggers to buy it and then dealing with niggers once in jail
>beta fuck
Go back to your leafyisqueer video and fuck off.
>>681765451
He's not OP. I ain't debating shit, nigger, I'm taking it all in.
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>>681765656
Good because you literally have one personal testimony and a fucking paramedic ITT and they're telling you not to do it. also pic related but THATS NOT THE POINT.
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>>681764793
I understand what you mean. I smoked the stuff steadily for 8 months when I couldn't smoke weed. I really haven't felt the same, there are times where my vision becomes distorted or warped. I developed horrible mood swings that persist to this day.
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>>681765652
so your saying a healthy youmg girl had a heart attack for no reason, and that it had nothing to do with the drugs she was on?
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>>681763462
Why not smoke the real thing anon?
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>>681765656
Then get weed from white people wtf how beta are you niggers are the worst people to smoke weed with or buy. But seriously if that's your reason for wanting spice don't fucking do it the only reason to try it is to see for yourself exactly what it's like
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>>681765652
>if someone has an overdose the drug didnt kill them
>the heart spasms and/or seizures did
>this logic
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>>681766037
Because hes in middle school and he doesn't have a hook up yet.
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>>681765843
>not posting the version with the how to take a screenshot tab and all the furry midget porn
Calm down, anon.
>>681766078
Of course it isn't my actual reason, I don't want to hang the time in the big house either, or go through all this secrecy shit, and avoiding drug tests, bla bla bla.
But I get you, anon.
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Spice is fucking gay op, seriously don't smoke it just get weed, I've smoked weed on the daily, several times a day and ain't nothing bad happened cept a panic attack or two
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>>681766218
You literally cannot drive through the nigger town next door without being propositioned 3 times within an hour period.
Don't forget to call me a cuck, while you're at it, to cover all the bases.
>>681766503
I'm pretty convinced at this point, anon. Thanks.
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>>681763462
OP do not fuck with spice. Not only is it a really shitty high, but the effects can be permanent. You will either die or live with brain damage, not to mention the seizures. I have done most every drug, and I would reccomend heroin over spice. Even meth is safer.

If you wan't a legal high, DMX is the way to go. Trust me on this one OP.
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>>681766770
cuck.

if its so easy to get, you wouldnt be shitposting threads like this.
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>>681764793
Yeah i smoked it a few times when i was 14-15 and im fucking brain dead retarded now. Only smoke spice if you feel like getting a nice fried brain
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Op if you are really curious then just do it. Like I said before, it's going to suck. Either you will feel nothing, you will be giggling and get a body high, or you will get sick as shit. Every time I tried it, it was either nothing or sick as shit. Only knew the one dude who actually liked it, and witnessed a bunch of people either feeling like they got ripped off or get sick as shit.
The heart attack thing I can understand. Couple feeling weird with massive paranoia and I could see someone flip a shit like that. I mean I've seen people thinking they were going to die from Dabs lol. And it can take hours for them to fucking calm down.
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>>681766830
Well, shit, man.
Tell me about this DMX? All the results I'm getting are for the rapper.
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>>681767287
Cough syrup, retard.
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>>681766993
I'm sorry I interrupted your other threads, anon. I know you were just getting cozy in all those furry, zootopia, trap, cock rate, and faces of /b/ thread. I'm real sorry.
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>>681765845
Damn man that sucks but you made me feel better knowing someone else understands what it's like. For me it's like my whole perception has changed. I don't really get mood swings or distorted vision like you but to this day I remember walking into school the day after my first time smoking it and I felt like my anxiety had gone down (I used to have bad anxiety and slight panic attacks) so I was illusioned into believing maybe I could get rid of it, plus when I had tried weed I literally felt nothing so I pretty much used the spice as my weed smoking it regularly. I remember smoking it before school once and I was tired so it just fucked me up so bad I got into my first hour and couldn't even open my eyes. I was always sleeping In class so no one really even noticed but the light would just hurt and once that class was over I threw up all over the bathroom. I know people who smoked less of that shit than me and just started seizing up going to the hospital and shit. That shit has left me feeling like a sociopath and my social skills have like vanished.I've tried so hard to just get some of it back but nothing seems to work and therapy has been useless.
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>>681763462
just do real drugs, fuck. Most real drugs wont fuck you up as much as these "legal" highs will.
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OP smoking spice is equivalent to getting a hammer and smashing your own head in. Dont do it. It may seem like its a cheap high but its not worth. The high isnt even fun anyway
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>>681767539
>mention middle school and this faggot has a seizure over it

struck a nerve?
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From what I've heard it used to be pretty weak and basically like weed until the shit just got stronger and stronger. I wouldn't recommend that you do that shit
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any of you guys ever have the misfortune of smoking this nonsense?
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>>681767880
>makes a valid point about the worsening of our little cesspool that hundreds of other anons have made.
>accuses me of being a middle schooler again even though that reply was about 10 minutes earlier
Okay, anon.
>>681767799
Checked
>>681767842
>>681768015
I'm glad I made this thread, damn.
>>681768402
80% of the people ITT. Unless you mean that specific brand.
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>>681768595
>being this fucking new

good god almighty, and i thought this thread couldn't get any worse.
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>>681767287
It's the active ingredient in most cough syrups like robitusin. I would classify it as a psychedelic or a dissociative. At lower levels, you feel loose and tingly, slightly disconnected from your body. At higher doses you can experience a full blown psychedelic trip with intense visuals. The trip is kind of like a dream, unlike acid or shrooms where you are totally lucid.

If you are interested, try the gel caps if you can get them. Or look for syrup that contains dextromethorphan only (no additives).
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>>681767199
Explain your symptoms of brain dead? Just very curious.
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its all poison

no health regulations exist for the products
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>>681768707
Just let it go, anon. For god's sake, it's an argument on the internet. Everyone else is having a decent time.
>>681768735
>dextromethorphan
I'll write that down.
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>>681763462
that stuff shreds your lungs and causes a shitload of bad neurological effects. Just smoke weed if you want to get high. If you can't then stay straight or huff glue or anything else basically.
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>>681763462
spice will fuck up your brain dude if you want to smoke to get high move to a state where pot is legal or be a normal person and just drink
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>>681765247
da fuq is DPH
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>>681769155
>>681769173
Explain I feel like I fucked my self bad but it could also be other drugs like taking 700mgs of benedryl every couple of days for 2 years from 16-18 I'm 22 now.
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>>681766218
Pretty sure my school had a few different dealers and i got my first hook up at 13.
>elitist boarding school
>kids smuggled shit in all the time, and kids used to grow the shit behind the swimming block in the woods, pretty sure the teachers knew but got paid off.
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What the fuck are people doing using weird shit like this? Weed is easy to get anywhere and fucking legal in 3 states. I would sooner do acid than this shit because at least i know whar acid will do, and it has a decent track record. Same with shrooms. This shit sounds like it has no upside, its like all the bad effects of getting drunk with few benefits and no flavor.
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>>681769863
>implying acid ever actually killed someone
Not counting people who couldn't handle the trip, but that's their own fault for doing acid while mentally unstable anyways
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>>681769421

Yeah probably didn't help. The synthesized delta-9THC they load the stuff with isn't quite the same as the THC found in plants - it binds far more readily (like several thousand times more readily) to the dopamine receptors in certain areas of the brain and can take much longer to be diffused. Messing with your receptors is always going to cause chemical destabilization in the brain, and it's that which causes injury - either premature loss of elasticity, blocked channels or even destruction of areas of the brain - there have been a couple of papers recently which found very prolonged use of cannabis from an early age results in collapse of some memory sections in the brain - the effects of spice haven't been studied yet but from the physiological side effects I wouldn't be surprised by actual lasting brain damage.
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>>681769341
diphenhydramine, benadryl, heavy anticholingergic used as a deliriant

really stupid way to visit silent hill in your own fucked up head
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>>681770054
Check it, pretty fucking horrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_E5k7ADQwE
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>>681770028
Killed, no. Fucked up in the head, yeah. But like you said, your fucking fault. My point is LSD is better known and has better effects than this trash. Same with weed.
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>>681764407
I had a seizure when smoking some of the second gen shit. I'm not sure exactly what chems were in it, but it was back when AM-2201 was hot shit. After the first gen of chems got banned every blend started using way more potent chemicals that made you trip balls instead of getting a high even remotely similar to weed.
>16 at the time
>hanging out with spice fiend friends who smoke bowls of the shit just to even feel it
>friend pulls out a fresh bag
>pulls a fucking rock of chemicals out of the bottom
>see them smoke a tiny bit of it and almost lose their shit
>later they convince me to try it
>they drop a bump of powder the size of a match head on a bowl of spice
>tell me to rip it
>I hit that shit hard as fuck
>before I even finish the hit I can feel extreme panic
>oh fuck
>I couldn't even finish the hit, friend grabs it out of my hand and kills it
>everything looks like a fucked up cartoon
>I immediately start screaming and having a seizure
>everyone around me laughing thinking there's nothing wrong
>they even recorded me because they thought it was funny
>seize hardcore for like 10 minutes before I come out of it
>still fucked up and shaking
>had to bike home after that
>mind is completely fucked
>I smoked spice again the very next day after I got out of school
>quit like a year later and vow to never touch the shit again after suffering through severe mental problems and having tachycardia to the point where I thought I was gonna die
>after 6 months of being clean I could finally smoke a cig/drink caffeine without feeling like I was having a heart attack
Literally the only drug(s) I regret ever touching. Fucked my life up in more ways than I can count. Only really even did it because I could get smoked down on it for free and I couldn't handle being sober. Looking back now, I was seriously addicted to the shit but was just in denial. After smoking that shit for a while I just couldn't handle being sober at all.
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>>681769341
A great way to get eaten alive by spiders that aren't real, thinking that you're completely sober while you're talking to dead people trying to find the cigarette you just had in your mouth that disappeared for some reason.
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>So what's the story on herbal incense/spice?

I spent all my money on it, then I had neither food nor spice. When I was coming off of it, I experienced what I think was a psychosis combined with mania and Geschwind syndrome. Also, potent analgesia to the point of not being able to feel my jawbow.

I wrote a whole bunch of tinfoil-hattery, and continue to write more of it - I have ambitions to publish a crazy hair guy book. My depression is also seemingly permanently gone, so I'd say it was for the best in the end.

>How do I ask my head shop for it without getting kicked out?

I always got pure chemicals off the internet, or bought it at gas stations. I probably could still get it, and even tell you where - but I won't because I think that's against the rules.

High on natural weed now - it feels better than spice.
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>>681770648
Ya you do too much of any hallucinogen or dissociative and you can drive yourself into a psychosis
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>>681771281
I want to try it
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>>681770836

Holy shit man you've just helped me figure out what happened to me ages ago when I had the worst fucking experience ever- was smoking weed I got from sketchy asians...
> be 19
> go out for first spliff after lectures
> halfway thru start panicking
> heart starts absolutely tearing it
> panic the fuck out and feel like I have to lie down
> stay on ground for like 20 mins
> pretty much crawl back to my flat
> shaking horrendously, call ambulance
> call roomie say I think I'm dying
> ambulance arrives and they check me out
> fucking nothing
> feel odd for days after

> mfw I just realised they gave me spice
> fucking asians
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>>681771454
Example of a psychosis?

Thinking people are after you type of shit?
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>>681767287
its DXM not DMX
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All this bullshit ITT. Spice ain't worse than other hard drugs. Yeah, it ain't now weed but you have any common sense, you know just because they look the same they ain't the same. Smoke it, enjoy it, just don't be a retard about it and you won't have any issues.
The retards ITT were probably smoking like 5g a day and wondering why the got fucked up...
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I smoke legal highs nearly every day.

They are pretty save if you know how much you can smoke. Mostly its enough to just dip your finger into the chem weed and put it into a joint.

Everyone who smokes more just wants to die.
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>>681763462
I think I know what your talking about in Australia it used to be legal (now illegal ) we call it kronic you smoke a cone of it and fucks you up , I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole
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I liked the fake bake I got 21 grams for 25 dollars at this smoke shop was a one hit and your high for hours that shit lasted me weeks I rolled joints and did bowls only one a day I was good versus multiple weed smoking for all day high. I liked fake over weed
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>at a metal fest
>waiting in line for a hot dog
>two dudes giggling behind me and my friend
>look at their eyes all red
>guys you are high as shit too
>"yeah, wanna smoke some together afterwards?"
>go near our tent
>they pack a fucking huge bowl
>say they are good for now and we should take it
>ayy free weed, we're running out anyway
>i rip it first, huge smoke, keep it in for like 15sec, smoke is so light
>friend rips
>wtf is this shit guys, it aint weed
>start seeing trough flower pattern filter
>holding my head in my palms cause everything is heavy af
>"It's meth anon" they giggle
>try to have a conversation with my friend
>goes as slow as 2 words every 2minutes
>seeing myself from above
>end up sitting alone in the middle of nowhere while comtenplating my puke for an hour
>go sleep for 2h, sleeep trough my favorite band
Fuck that stuff man. I'm kinda glad I got to expierence it once so I don't have to do that again, ever.
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>>681763462
Enjoy your heart palpitations, irredeamable addiction, schizophrenia, blackouts, seizures, and heart attacks.
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>>681763462
Seriously OP stay away from this shit. I got a bunch of it after being arrested a few years back. I smoked a few joints over the course of a week and it was fun, so I invited a friend over to party. He took a few massive bong rips and had a fucking seizure. Just get weed or be sober, this shit is a bad idea.
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>>681768402
From the label alone I already know never to smoke that shit.
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>>681774387
this
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