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What went wrong?
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>>681711818
He got cucked by blm
And he coudlnt get it up hard enouhh to schlong hillary
He is an honest consistent guy just not good enough at politicking tonbecome president
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>>681711818
>Stupid people listening to media and other stupid people.
>A lack of acknowledgement from the very group of people he defended in the 60-70s.
>Clinton and her deathgrip on the Democratic Party
>Debbie Wasserman Shultz and the other democratic heads who underminded everything about the primary process

It's not like what he wanted to do won't be done.
If anything, him losing makes people want it even more. Will work harder and focus more to get it.

You can already see these "Bernie-crats" coming up for Senate seats, Congress, local government.
8 years time, we'll be a different country.
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>>681711818
I think he should've been more aggressive with the attacks. The media treated him as if he was saying Trump level garbage, and he never did shit like it. I think he should have pummeled Hillary in the debates.


That said, the next states are all open primaries. Some people think that'll be something good for him, I'm not sure it'll be enough. But maybe enough to flip some superdelegates. Who knows.
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>>681711818
He accomplished his goals by promoting his views.

I don't think he ever expected to beat Hillary and he got a lot further than anyone expected.

He did what I wished Mike Gravel could've done back in 2008.
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>>681711818
Nothing went wrong. A marginal candidate with insufficient support lost. It happens in every election. The only reason anyone questions it is because more and more people now live in media and social bubbles, and confuse the thoughts and opinions of those around them with the thoughts and opinions of most people in general.
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>>681711818
Fuckin lib cucks, this happened to us Ron Paul supporters in 2012 and you all told us to stop being such whiny fucks. Now look at you, you democrats are now owned literally on every level by Jew zionists. Schultz owns your balless liberal soul, have fun being killed and pushed around for being a white man. Stupid fuckass libs. "Oh we are $19 trillion in debt, let's make the federal government %40 larger and more powerful" dumbasses
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>>681712495
>I'm not sure it'll be enough
I think by this point it's mathematically impossible for him to get the necessary number of delegates.
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He is a racist and showed it out
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>>681712999
This kind of attitude is why we will always have shitty presidents.
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>>681711818
He came into the race without enough public acknowledgement. If the public knew who he was for longer they might have warmed up to him. Its part of the reason Trump has Trumped all of the GOP's "who is that"s candidates.
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>>681712968
Well put
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>>681713255
There are over 1200 delegates left and he's behind 350 dip wad.
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>>681711818
hard to beat the clinton machine, obama only did cuz he was black
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>>681713382
Unlikely. Most of the Democratic party considers itself moderate or conservative. It's a center left party, not a left-left party.
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>>681713683
Perhaps what the anon meant to say was "mathematically, there's no realistic way Sanders could come back"

Which there isn't. He is certain now to lose among pledged delegates, and if you think he's gonna be able to peel superdelegates to steal the election where Clinton's won a majority of the pledged delegates and popular vote, you're in for some disappointment.
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The ones who revel in power and control, fight hard to keep it. But their time is over. Bernie Sanders will be president. This cannot be changed.
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>>681712999
You say that as though Trump is not more likely to win.
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>>681712999
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>>681713927
The next 10 primaries are all open. I wouldn't count him out of the race, and depending on how the convention goes, I would really like to watch some Bernie or Bust people get up and try to scare some sense into the DNC.

Because I don't see Hillary beating Trump
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>>681714047
History repeats itself; the first time as tragedy, the second as farce.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/ron-paul

Another eight years and the burniebros will all have jobs and real lives and this will all be forgotten.
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>>681711818
Did he lose?
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>>681711818
Also, this poster >>681712968 is essentially correct (except maybe it's wrong to characterize Sanders as a marginal candidate)

Nothing went wrong. Bernie Sanders, a candidate most Democrats hadn't heard of before a year ago, entered the race with very little support and managed to rally the anti-Hillary vote, progressive voters and young voters around himself. He ran a campaign that was far stronger and more prominent than Sanders himself expected when he first got in. But although Clinton is widely disliked among young people, she's actually very popular among Democrats as a whole. So in the end, she beat him.

>Yes, there are some serious problems with how the Democratic primary process works. Some of these problems benefited Clinton, some benefited Sanders.

>No, Clinton did not win because the system was "rigged." She won because, as mentioned, she's very well liked and well known within the Democratic party.
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>>681714311
CHIGGITTYY checked
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>>681711818
>The tragedy of Bernie Sanders is literally the only thing 4chan can blame on niggers and whores and it's not a hyperbole.
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Hillary has more money and power.
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>>681714321
Here's a good analysis of why, barring a major event (ex., Clinton gets assassinated or indicted) Sanders will not be able to come back

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-sanders-comeback-would-be-unprecedented/
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>>681712999
THIS

also TRIPS
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>>681711818
Poli sci fag not from your country here.

Too many closed elections where voters who refused to register under democrats or Republican and chose independent were not allowed to vote, plus young voters, who though stirred to join the process when they learned about Bernie, had no interest in him when the time to register came.

New York alone had 3 million independent voters (in an election with just over 1 million turning out to vote). Clinton's 3 wins on Tuesday were all also closed primaries. I'm also pretty sure Hillary hasn't won a primary election or at least very very few where it wasn't a closed election.

The extremely large majority of independents vote Bernie or Trump. If they were allowed to vote at all the primaries, shed probably be an afterthought by now.

But many of the potential Bernie (and I'll include trump voters) have lost far too much faith in the system to have even bothered to register at all, or register for a major party. But this election appealed to them. A great number of them would have come out.
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>>681711818

pshh yeah like anyone who wants to actually make a positive change in America has a chance to stand up to the Financial Elite in a Election.

Face it Americans are too stupid to elect good people!
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To say nothing of the rampant fucking cheating.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2016/03/01/bill-clinton-massachusetts-voting-laws/

http://www.inquisitr.com/1572639/2014-election-results-democrat-voter-fraud-caught-in-arizona-maryland-and-illinois/

http://www.inquisitr.com/3013518/new-york-primary-irregularities-city-officials-vow-investigation/
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>>681712310
there are no far lefties running for any seats this year. No "Berniecrats" in any races other than him.

In 2 years he will be forgotten, remember Ralph Nader?
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>>681714697
I'm aware of this. And I said in my OP, that it's unlikely. Using the word unprecedented in this race is sort of stupid though... Because it's unprecedented (as far as I know) that a reality TV star with 0 political experience gets to be the Republican front runner, there is unprecedented voter turnout in youth, and there was an unprecedented number of primaries to go to a Jew.

This has been an insane Primary season. Declaring something as unprecedented really doesn't mean a whole lot.

Also, unprecedented risk of an indictment. And unprecedented unfavorability scores in BOTH parties' front runners.
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>>681711818
Hillary Clinton stole the nomination from him.
That is why I am going to vote for Trump, because the democratic party fucked us over.
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>>681715253
Yeah, that is how political parties work.

Too bad the fucking idiot SJWs tried to be snarky smart ass pricks and go indy without checking the rules first. Fuck them.
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>>681715381
Jamie Raskin anybody?
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my guess is that "young white liberals" is not a winning demographic
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>>681715582
I think the big issue here is WHY is that how the system works.

WHY are we okay just disallowing people to vote?

WHY are we okay with independents only being able to pick from the sloppy seconds of people who vote on party lines, rather than on the actual issues?

I understand those are the rules, but why are we okay with that?
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>>681711818
The media was paid off by the Hillary party. Every time his name came up if it ever did was just he has no chance. Don't waste your vote.
Most voters are lazy and don't wanna wore about who to vote for so all the news said Hillary and they said sure.
Scheduled times of debates to minimise his demographic viewing numbers.
Every time he won it was completely downplayed as freak occurrence.
He didn't attack Hillary hard enough early enough
And just straight up old fashioned election rigging.

Basically he was fighting an uphill battle with his hands tied behind his back. I'm surprised he got that far.

Anyway Trump all the way.
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>>681711818
"Ase-uh beez-a boatin' fuh
Hillburee Rodman Clibuhmuhtun!"
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>>681715253
Clearly you're not from the US.

Clinton has won most primaries, closed or not. She won open primaries in Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, South Carolina, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia.

That sounds like a lot of open primaries to me.

By contrast, Bernie depends on caucuses for most of his wins. Look up caucusing sometimes and tell me how egalitarian it is when you only get to vote if you can take off work to stand in a corner all day.

Certainly that wouldn't disproportionately benefit people like students with no jobs...
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>>681715253
Closed primaries definitely hurt Sanders, no question. But Sanders was helped by another unfair feature of the process that shut out lots of voters--caucuses. A 2009 study from a Harvard researcher showed that states with caucuses have a roughly 75% decline in voter turnout versus those with primaries. That's pretty horrific when you sit down and think about it--the voter ID laws that Sanders (correctly) rails against probably suppress turnout by somewhere in the ballpark of 0.5-2% of the vote. And it's well known that Sanders did better than Clinton in caucus states.

There's going to be an article in the 538 blog sometime this week that will estimate how the election would've gone if every state had voted as an open primary. I look forward to reading it, but the results (according to their recent podcast) are that Clinton wins by about the same margin if you both eliminate caucus and open up every primary.

And yes, Clinton won her fair share of open primaries:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016
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>>681715582
What part of "...and trump voters" did you not just understand?

He may be doing alright anyway but he too lost a lot of voters to this.

And it's not edge fags, it's people declaring in very large numbers they have no faith in the two main parties, and a democratic nation then excluding this very large voice from the voting process.


I don't actually care if you're Republican or democrat. None of you can truly disagree the system is not shattered to hell
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>>681711818
He is such the stereotypical Jew.
Hunched over, waving his Jew finger in the air, and bitching about things.
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>>681711818
He's just not a very good politician. I don't hold it against him but he ran a shit-tier campaign that would have ended much earlier if his base didn't throw unlimited money at him.
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>>681711818

murica, that's what.

From an outsider, every time I hear Trump give a speech, he sounds like a wrestler and Clinton just seems like a hazbeen.

But, nothing will stop the 1%
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>>681716042
Fuck man. You beat me by 12 seconds.
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Greed. That's what happend.
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>>681715329
By the way, it's not over yet. If he makes enough delegates for a contested convention and/or she gets indicted for the email thing, Bernie could still be president.
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>>681712999
>So fucking stupid anon doesn't realize that Libs liked a lot of Ron Paul's ideas.
It was core conservatives that hated him the most.
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>>681715887
Because that is how political parties work.

No one gives a fuck about indies in primary season.

Don't worry, their day is coming, from July to November the only people anyone will care about in indies, they get pandered to then.

Greedy fucks get their turn later.
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>>681716062
Thank you for the correction and including a source.

>>681716042
You. Learn from this.
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>>681711818
Hillary and New York are corrupt and made it impossible to vote for him in Brooklyn.

He still has a chance though if he wins California
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>>681716081
Nah, that's wrong. Bernie's base is young, and young people only support Trump at about 25%. The Harvard spring poll just came out that shows Millennials hate Trump.

There is like no crossover between Bernie and Trump voters except for on 4chan.
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>>681711818
He didn't promise a bagel in every pot or even some matzoh. OyVEY!
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>>681716042
She won all the southern states that aren't going to elect a democrat anyway because black people love dem some Clintins.
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>>681716264
FBI here.
No we want Trump. We're saving the indictment for after. We move now and Bernie beats Trump. We wait till just Trump and Hillary and we ensure Trump victory and a hyoooooge budget boost.
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>Democratic "socialism"
>"damn emails"
>the pure, unbridled stupidity of Southern blacks
>rigged media
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>>681715728
>Jamie Raskin

He is anti-religious, not pro-tax and spend like Bernie. Big difference between a social liberal and a hardcore fiscal liberal like Sanders.
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>>681716324
Fag who can't bother go get his facts right before posting bitches about a lack of source references. Go back to /pol and try not to suck any dick on the way.
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>>681711818
Many dems are voting for Hillary just because they want to see a woman as president. However, this is how it will go down.

The FBI are not a democratic group. They will wait until Bernie is ousted and Hillary wins the primary. Then they'll spring the charges on her, giving Hillary the option to withdrawal or face felony charges. She will withdrawal. This causes disarray in the democratic party. Bob Dole will step in and take Hillary's place.
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>>681715460
Meh, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But when I sit down and look at the kinds of margins Sanders would need to win the remaining states by to get to a majority of pledged delegates...it's just not possible, barring a huge scandal. So I guess you could keep your hopes up for one of those. But I think there's a reason Sanders cut hundreds of staffers from his campaign the other day. They've realized they aren't gonna win...
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>>681716476
What happens when we all write Bernie in?
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>>681713323
What a faggot
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I don't get how people can support Trump... the guy just comes off as a total asshole.
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>>681716297
I don't understand why wanting to vote for who gets to be a presidential candidate is greedy, but okay.

And the reason indies are pissed off is BECAUSE nobody gives a fuck about them in the primary season.

And I asked a why question and you literally repeated what I questioned. You're an idiot.
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>>681711818
He did way better, and got much further than anyone thought he would. He succeeded in pulling Hillary and the rest of the party to the left, and will be able to have a say in the platform.
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>>681716042
>Won in Ohio
Nigga, that's where they literally closed polling stations cause Bill Clinton was pushing his wife's agenda. That's weak b8 m8, str8 ir8.
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>>681716545
Then some insurance agent in Omaha named Birdie Saunders will be shocked to discover he's been elected president of Jack Shit.
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>>681716675
Just because he's doing well in the primaries doesn't mean that a lot of people are supporting him. Primary voters are a pretty small group.
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>>681716675
Becuase Trump acknowledges that low-wage immigration has seriously hurt wages for non-college educated Americans, something that no mainstream candidate from a major party has admitted.
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>>681716717
So you want indies to tell people like me, affiliated with a party, who we can choose,m even though they have no affiliation or concern for the party?

No. That is not how the real world works, son.

They do not get to choose who we send, and then get to choose again between those two. Fuck that, man up and pick a side or be happy sitting on the sideline until the fall.
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>>681716545
It'll be too late. It'll cause chaos and too much disarray within the democratic party.
Bernie will just be a second choice and the good people will have no confidence in him. A few college kids will cheer, but it'll be too late.
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>>681715991
REBALY?
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>>681716545
Most states do not allow write ins and any smart ass that tries will just invalidate their ballot and it will go in the trash where it belongs.
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>>681714663

I actually do not know who this is, nor can I find him using this picture. Who is that?
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Will no one acknowledge he's a fucking SOCIALIST? That's one step away from communist. Maybe people didn't vote for him because only the college kids voted for him. All the oldfags knew that socialism is a bunch of bullshit. In the book 1984 with that incredibly corrupt government and Big Brother, the main character even says that that type of government used to be called SOCIALISM. Why the fuck would you brag that you're a socialist?
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>>681716717
You don't understand what voting is about then. It's not popularity contest, it's not about "being part of the new fad", it's about voting for the person who you actually believe to be the best candidate.

Indipendant voters are pissed off because of wyoming, arizona, and ohio. Wyoming, bernie -won- the primary, but was not awarded a proportionate amount of delegates. Arizona closed 80% of their polling places, and didn't count independent voters votes. Which is voter fraud. Ohio did the same shit.
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>>681717038
You keep talking about parties as if they're good for democracy. If we are supposed to have a representative government, why do over 40% of voters not get to pick who represents them?

You're completely missing the entire point.
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>>681717328
Nobody really gives a fuck because of the checks and balances that the rest of government provides. Bernie could get elected in a landslide and we still wouldn't have a socialist government.
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>>681717434
>voting
>not a popularity contest

FUCK THIS SHIT IM OUT
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>>681716476
Not in the FBI but work in the building. Can confirm. It's not even a secret around here. Basically everyone is a republican and wants a bigger budget. They got like 12 working on the case.
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>>681717328
0/10
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>>681712999
truth and trips
fucking beautiful
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>>681716545
He still loses. Think about it, if he couldn't get the votes/pledged delegates when he was on the ballot do you really think he'll be able to get it from write ins?

>>681717039
Are you actually implying he could win from write ins? I liked Stephen Colbert, but I never lied to myself by saying he could be elected via write in.
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>>681717498
>why do over 40% of voters not get to pick who represents them?

If your state doesn't have open primaries, joint a party. No one is stopping you.

The independent voter in the US is largely a myth. The vast majority of voters not registered with a party still vote as consistently for candidates from one party or another as registered voters do.
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>>681717635
Good.
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>>681712664
>He accomplished
Nothing. He has contributed absolutely nothing to this world.
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>>681717635
I bet you voted for Obama cause you thought it was the cool thing to do, didn't you?
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>>681717561
And you would know this because you can see into the future right? I'm sure majority of people didn't think Obama would make some of the decisions he did, but he still made them.
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>>681714400
And, Howard Dean before that.
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>>681717699
I'm saying the exact opposite. I'm saying a few dumb college kids will cheer and try but ultimately they will be disregarded.
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>>681713813
>It's a center left party, not a left-left party.
Nigga wut?
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>>681717434
Sanders has been nothing but a fad. A bunch of financially illiterate art majors have getting old enough to protest and vote, so that's what this is. Most of them will outgrow it.
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I can't understand how anyone voted for Hillary. Haven't people been on Reddit and read about how horrible she is?
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>>681716675

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2016/01/donald-trump-and-politics-of-resentment.html
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This is why he failed. His base.
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>>681717733
So what you're saying is that people that don't want to associate with a corrupt political party still vote for the corrupt politicians, and are therefore not independent?

Just because I'm an independent doesn't mean I'm going to be a conservative one day and a liberal the next. I largely agree with Democrats on social issues, but on economic and foreign affairs issues, both parties are completely fucked.
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>>681717972

When more than half of the Democratic party self identifies as moderate or conservative, it's hard to call it a liberal party.
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>>681712310
Lol ya in 8 years we will be a nation of fucking pussies, if that isn't already the case.
The bottom line is, while, sincere in his motives, Bernie's policies won't work.
We can go ahead and keep trying this bullshit in different countries and keep saying "well that wasn't the exact right way to do it."
Or we can just stop.
Fuck Bernie Sanders.
If you like him there is an entire circle jerk subreddit thats always happy to add another dick to the line.
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Lack of testosterone tbh fam
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>>681711818
Hillary was just too entrenched and he had too far to climb while the media didn't help at all...
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>>681717699
Given that 40% of registered voters are independents who are locked out of all those closed primaries Hillary won, absolutely.
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>>681717843
I voted for Obama in 2012 because he didn't get primaried.

The result of the vote is literally a popularity contest.
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>>681718201
Speaking my fucking language anon
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>>681712090
also terrible polices most people reject, so there's that.
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>>681718003
Wait till the economy goes down again and see how bad the POLI scene will get again.
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>>681711818
People are content with being stupid and selfish.
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Socialism is for retards
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>>681716675
He is simple the peoples' middle finger to the government. "Fuck you, we're tired of this bullshit government" basically
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>>681718201
What I'm saying is that the vast majority of independents are functionally just unregistered partisans. There is no great group of independents out there that can be swayed towards one party or another. Only the partisans you have the names of and the ones you don't.
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>>681717498
> why do over 40% of voters not get to pick who represents them?

They do. 40% of people may self-identify as independent, but they aren't affected by closed primaries because only about 10% of voters are unaffiliated (would be affected by closed primary states) and only about 10-11 of the states are closed primaries, very few people are actually affected by this. Then again, if you are affected by this, it's your own damn fault for not making preparations or just joining a party. Even if every single person who was not allowed to vote in the primary would have voted for Sanders (this is not the case of course, because at minimum, a large chunk of these people are on the right) it would not have made a material difference. Sanders would still be losing, because, honestly, people see through his bullshit. He doesn't represent the people. He's just another politician working an angle (in this case trying to pick up those financially illiterate votes). In fact, Sanders might be one of the few people to lose by overestimating the stupidity of the US people.
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>>681714321
then you're retarded. he has no statistical chance.
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>>681718332

see

>>681716062
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>>681712310

This, we're headed toward socialism. I wonder what North American social democracy will be like....
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>>681717328
In the top 10 countries on the UN hdi, America holds 8th place. The other 9 are all democratic socialist countries, and have been for many decades.

The government in 1984 was socialist, yes, but not a democracy. Communism fails when an elite controls all the production and wealth, and distributes it, and keeps most of it for themselves.

The same way capitalism fails when all the wealth flows to the top and the system becomes top heavy.

In democratic socialism, the wealth is controlled by the people, and the interest of the people as a whole is served.

All systems have flaws, and no system can be judged until it has been implemented, tested, and measured.

Democratic socialism has. It is the very best we have.
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>>681718698
It's called Canada you jackfuck
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>>681718332
False, see >>681718600

In short, 40% of voters are not unaffiliated. 40% self identify as independent. Face it, he lost because he doesn't actually speak for the people like he claims.
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>>681715574
>considerably more votes than her opponent
>stole nomination

got another bernie/trump low information voter here boys.
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>>681715991
Ase-uh beez-a heddin' fuh de boatin' a-boof aftuh Ase hepp-uh da buh-butcher an' da buh-baker buh-bring de buh-boxes fum buh-hind the buh-building!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMADJcimnds
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>>681716042
But, i did draw that..also hes winning when you take out the superdelegates.
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>>681718806

Yup, I'll take the L or whatever on that one.
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>>681718538
That is true, but both Trump and Bernie do better in their own respective primaries with independents, and I think that in a Trump v Sanders general election, the independents likely sway towards Sanders, as the country tends to be a little more liberal when actually confronted with the issues.
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>>681714547

Also, let's address a couple of the other claims Sanders supporters sometimes make to argue he was cheated.

1. Voting irregularities in Arizona.
No question, what happened in AZ was a clusterfuck. The state reduced the number of polling places from 200 to 60, leading to long lines. But did that help Clinton? No. Why? Because the worst lines were in the parts of Maricopa County that had the highest number of Latino voters. And although there were no exit polls I could find from AZ, exit polls in Texas, New York, and Florida (among other places) show Clinton doing much better than Sanders with Latinos. So the notion that a better-run primary would've helped Sanders cut into Clinton's 58%-40% lead in Arizona is almost certainly bunk.

2. Disappearing Voters in the Bronx
Depending on which source you read, up to 60,000 Democratic voters are alleged to have been wrongly removed from the voting rolls in New York. If true, this would represent another travesty even bigger than the AZ fuckup. But like AZ, this travesty would not have helped Sanders. Clinton won in the Bronx by a margin of 70% to 30%--far larger than her statewide total (which was a 16-point gap). So if thousands of voters were disenfranchised in the Bronx, that would have likely hurt Clinton, not helped her.

3. Bill Clinton & Massachusetts
Did Bill Clinton break the rules by entering two MA polling stations and shaking voters' hands? (He was also reported to have asked voters to "pull the lever for Hillary") Probably. Is it likely to have made a difference in the primary's outcome? Very unlikely, unless you think Bill's actions garnered 19,000 or so votes for Hillary (the margin by which she won Massachusetts).
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>>681718944
Is that the new Iggy izalea single?
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>>681718704

You do realize that Democratic Socialism is a myth, right, and the countries that are usually used as examples, like Denmark, are actually more capitalist than the US, right? There is a lot more to Democratic Socialism than a national healthcare and education system, but no one really seems to look beyond that.
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>>681718704
Democratic socialism what a fucking joke look at Venezuela they are so broke the can't print money
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>>681718369
>Missing the point.
>Reading comprehension.
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>>681716264
not happening
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>>681718906
Did you not read about the cheating?

>>681715329
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REAL QUESTION: Why hasn't Hillary released those speech transcripts yet?
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>>681715460
>Because it's unprecedented (as far as I know) that a reality TV star with 0 political experience gets to be the Republican front runner
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>>681717498
no you
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>>681718991

He's behind in pledged delegates 1,662 to 1,373.
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>>681711818
Whatever you do /b/ dont join SJWs and vote for hillary. Only low info/paid/sjw voters vote for her.
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So, the moral is:

Make your money while you can.

We're headed toward socialism. Each generation is becoming more and more liberal. In 30 years we will have a model of socialism that is a cousin to Canada's.
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>>681719006
You forgot the auditors in Chicago changing the hand recount to match the machine.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/21/1518460/-Election-Fraud-Proven-at-Audit-by-Chicago-BOE-flipped-precinct-by-18pts-from-Bernie-to-Hillary
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>>681719128
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>>681718469
No, not really. The economy is cyclical. Populists like Sanders can try to blame it on the financial services industry, and yes, financially illiterates will believe him, but he still won't get the numbers because not everyone is that stupid.
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>>681719006
>Did Bill Clinton break the rules
No, he broke the law, dipnuts.
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>>681719116

Because all they would say is "FUCK YOU BURNIE" repeated 5,000 times.
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>>681719248
He gets extra points for how many states he won in a row, also you keep his superdelegates but not Hillarys and you will see why hes winning
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>>681719006
>So if thousands of voters were disenfranchised in the Bronx, that would have likely hurt Clinton, not helped her.

Has anyone polled those people to ask how they would have voted?
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>>681719439
That's about what comes out of her mouth right now anyways. Just a bunch of bullshit.
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>>681719006
Is this how you correct the record?
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>>681719061
I didn't vote for Obama because he was popular, I voted for him because he wasn't Mitt Romney.

Arguing that a vote isn't based on popular choice is completely absurd.

>>681719128
Reagan was the governor of California between 1967 and 1975, dip shit.
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>>681719092
No, I've read about it, but unlike you I understand that 1) self identifying as independent =/= unaffiliated (and therefore unable to vote in closed primaries), and 2) I've seen that Sanders' supporters will convince themselves of anything (no matter how illogical) in order to not admit that Sanders doesn't speak for the people and doesn't represent the best interests of most Americans. He does with the financial services industry what Trump does with mexicans. It's all political posturing and fear mongering.
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>>681714400
Exactly. The only reason we even see sanders support in the numbers were seeing is because the largest generation since the baby boomers finally hit 18 and they all have to go to college or work and they don't wanna have to pay for college like we did and they damn sure don't want to get normal jobs like the "plebs" they think working class America is.
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>>681719481

Then you divide by the square root of there, take the first six digits after the decimal point, and shove them up your fucking ass.
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>>681714663
everyone knows George Soros, you faggot. He's the one that was paying Bernouts to raid Trump rallies, and paid nigs to chimpout at ferguson.
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>>681711818

no sex appeal. i didn't make the girls' clits hard. he should have taken pointers from donald trump
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>>681712999

100% spot on.

You can't make a nation rich by stealing money from half the nation and giving it to the other half, and thankfully america is smart enough to still be able to see that.

He wanted to raise taxes on people making 40k a year. All these fucktarded libs don't send their extra money to the government but they want to make it law that we all have to. Lead by example, when you make 40k a year send in your 12k in taxes to your government gods. They will use it wisely, I'm sure.
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>>681711818
Not a woman and not edgy enough
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>>681719711
So you don't agree that wealth inequality is the single biggest problem in this country and the cause of virtually everything else?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig
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>>681719439
That's ridiculous. Do some research, propagate some actual information rather than reinforce the uneducated Bernie Bro narrative.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/release-of-clintons-wall-street-speeches_b_9698632.html
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>>681719793

>i didn't


oh fuck now people know i am bernie sanders.
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>>681719908
Oh, you definitely work for Correct The Record. "The Bernie Bro narrative"? C'mon...
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Watch my fucking OC Cunt monkeys it's 30 seconds

https://youtu.be/D3LNIsssXEg
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>>681716339
No he doesn't, you're retarded
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>>681719997
can you even read
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>>681720107
And now that you've been called out, you have to resort to personal attacks.
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>>681712999
>>681712999
>>681712999

WHAT IS IT WITH TRIPS ALWAYS BEING SPOT FUCKING ON??!?!?
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>>681719312
I couldn't find a source covering this event that wasn't either a tabloid, a fringe website or Reddit. So it's hard for me to address it. What I can say is this: in polls of the Illinois primary from the week leading up to it, Clinton led by an average of 1.8%. See:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/il/illinois_democratic_presidential_primary-5567.html

She ultimately won the state by an identical margin--1.8%. So I'm very skeptical that there was widespread voter fraud. You're welcome to your conspiracy theories--if it helps you cope with your favored candidate's loss to pretend that he was cheated by a vast conspiracy among county election commissioners, go for it I guess.
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>>681717301
I can't remember his name, but I do know he is Jewish.
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>>681720089
paid shill
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>>681714047
This is far more fitting of you and bernie, as well as his supporters.
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>>681713323
He said that in a debate in my home town and I couldn't believe how utterly disconnected from reality he was. Flint is full of broke white people and the majority of people in the US that are under the poverty line are white.
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>>681720164
Im literally on your side.

Except for the dip shit part. Holy crap.
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>>681719482
Clinton won the state by about 250k votes. So even if all of those 30k people would have voted, and even if all of them had voted Sanders (both extremely unlikely, obviously), Clinton would still have won NY by a considerable margin. And since Bronx was one of Clinton's strongest precincts as noted above, the more plausible conclusion is that she wasn't helped by their removal from the rolls.
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>>681714047
>Bernie Sanders will be president.
Keep telling yourself that and it'll never happen. Social media is an echo chamber that wants to believe that Bernie is invincible. The fact is he's getting shafted by Hillary. If you really want to see this guy in the oval office, you better fucking vote. The only reason he won't be is because young fucks like us are too lazy to vote, and our grandparents elect some the status quo because Fox News scared them into their pockets.
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Raising taxes works and all until you run out of other people's money.
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>>681718943
Fuck you and your super delegates.
I am going to vote for Trump, and I will never support the democratic party again.
You aren't any better than the republicans anyway.
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>>681714663
>>681719751
>>681717301
Google says it's David Rockefeller.. False flag? Man, /b/ is /pol/ now.
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>>681711818
His birth, he's been a waste of space since his first breath.
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>>681711818
1) Most people don't want socialism
2) Most people believe in private property and private party contracts
3) Most people earn income and pay taxes
4) Most people aspire to build wealth over time
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>>681720504
Those poor billionaires that only made dividends in the 100s of millions this year.

Money running out....
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>>681720283
Curious that you used the card of infinite possibilities...
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>>681720504
>other people's money

Yeah, it's not like all those people that work at McDonald's are the ones actually making the money.

Not like they're doing the work, why would THEY deserve any share of the record profits that these huge corporations are raking in?
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>>681711818
He ran.
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>>681721203
They are getting a share
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All things considered, I'd say Sanders did a good job. I'd have liked to see him go up against Trump, but he at least ended up being a serious contender and woke up a lot of liberalfags to how shit Clinton is. I hope he finishes the race instead of dropping out like the shills want him to.
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>>681711818
All of his faggot supporters were 12-17 year old who didn't even know politics, but realized that pc liberalism is super popular.
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>>681721032
No, what I mean is the middle class, who are just trying to get by as it is.

All the lazy college fuckers just want everyone to pay for them, they don't want to do a day of actual work.
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>>681718350
Do you think everyone wears glasses because govt. healthcare won't pay for contact lenses?
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>>681721176
I was aiming for the reversed qualities of the fool,
Naivety, foolishness, recklessness, risk-taking.
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>>681714400
Bernie is taking in serious percentage of the vote. Ron Paul was a joke (a bad one at that) from the start till the end, just as his retarded ideology.

The amount of people in Sanders' campaign can actually translate to political change, unlike the few basement dwelling idiots vaguely smelling of cum who supported Ron Paul. And that includes his son.
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>>681721382
...and all of Clintons supporters are...?
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crusty old joo runs on the platform of "free stuff." everybody but brainwashed college students think "seems legit".
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>>681721289
http://www.epi.org/publication/understanding-the-historic-divergence-between-productivity-and-a-typical-workers-pay-why-it-matters-and-why-its-real/

Summary is that it isn't nearly a fair share. Productivity has been skyrocketing, while wages are stagnant. We're working harder, and we're bringing the wealthy MORE money, but the majority of workers aren't being compensated for it.
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>>681721203
Because their job is to flip frozen hamburgers for about 4 hours, not run a multi-million dollar company.
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>>681721596
Feminist cucks
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>>681721596
Women and cucks
And the illuminati
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>>681721510
Ron Paul had 25% of the republican party. There are twice as many conservatives as liberals. Ron Paul's ideology of right-wing libertarianism is so far above the heads of the average cave dwelling american that they dismiss it as crazy because they don't have the mental ability to contemplate it critically.
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>>681719866
>thankfully america is smart enough to still be able to see that.

How do you explain the last 8 years?
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>>681714577
2spooky4me
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Because he's a goddamn socialist bordering on communist. How Americans could vote for him or that lying scheming twat Hillary is beyond me.
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>>681720167
>label Scandinavian countries that are socialist and successful
>don't realize that in the USA we have cities alone with a higher population then those entire countries
>thinking socialism could sustain itself with the land mass and 335 million population we have
>mfw liberal bandwagon cucks
I hate being a millennial, we are all wastes, messes
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>>681721812
>>681721798
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>>681721964
>don't have the mental ability to contemplate it critically
Yep, sure does sound like someone who worships Ayn Rand.
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>>681722192
This honestly makes no sense
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>>681721964
>twice as many conservatives as liberals

HOLY FUCK NEVER HAS A SOURCE BEEN NEEDED AS MUCH AS RIGHT NOW
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>>681711818
> bullshit economic platform
> weak faggot
> kyke
> you can clearly see Soros' wristwatch coming out of his ass
> "socialist"
> "progressive"
> pinko bitch

Didn't really need a crystal ball on sanderstein.
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the condom broke
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Gary. Johnson.
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>>681722197
Easy Bernie jerker, he is right. We are so dependent on the federal government now that his ideas are too scary for the average American. We are federal dependent, they have us by the balls and it's so obvious. They don't even try to hide it anymore
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>>681722247
Who do you side with? Those are the two options in the Democratic primary according to /b/.
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Saddest part is, the DNC and Hillary think were going to support her. I'd rather vote against her.
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>>681722384
Lol shut up faggot.
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I can kind of understand voting for any other candidate.

But what kind of an ASSHOLE - would vote for Hillary? That's the question.
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>>681722197
hah, tell me that you have ever read a single ayn rand work to completeness
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>>681714663
jorge soros
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>>681711818
He tried to stump the Trump.
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>>681718238
You're the pussy. Capitalism is a sick and dying dog, with only so much life to live, just like Marx said. Our generation is starting to realize that socialism is the natural progression.
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>>681722642
Vote for Trump, but then vote good Democrats into the house. If there's a small democratic majority in the house and senate, Trump will work with the Democrats to get legislation passed.
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>>681722277
expand your knowledge moar faggot

http://www.gallup.com/poll/180452/liberals-record-trail-conservatives.aspx

in b4 tinfoil despair code fags claim polling is a conspiracy
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>>681722999
> socialism is the natural progression.

Common core at its finest.

Return to your hug box or safe zone.
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>>681719323
>finger on trigger

get your shit together reagan.
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>>681722999
Marx is a dindu
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>>681711818

Elections are decided at the beginning of the race, if not a few years prior.

Bernie isn't funded by any of the people who decide our elections, simple as that.
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>>681711818
>What went wrong?
Socialism.
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>>681723002
Vote for trump. Arm yourself. Support him dissolving the government with the support of a popular uprising. Burn down and crucify berniebots and left/right establishment traditionalist
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>>681722456
Oh ok, I get it now. Lol slow moment
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>>681719720
I am eurofag and I dont understand...who is in the graves, how could this old dude prevent what from happening?
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>>681719904
No, it isn't. Wealth inequality doesn't matter. what does matter is social/wealth mobility. I like being rich, but even if I didn't I still wouldn't say wealth inequality is a serious issue. Whatever Sanders says to you (almost certain to be lies on this topic), you should look for independent verification. Sanderistas are really bad about that. Honestly, it's almost like a religion.
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>>681723156
While I appreciate the link, it doesn't support your claim of there being twice as many conservatives as liberals. It says it's 38-24.

Now THAT'S the conservative math I remember.
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>>681722384
And how are you going to eliminate that? Paul's strategy is simply about "shut it down, let the people sort it out". And you know who is that "people" hint: it's not me or you. Paul's great plans would lead to 19th century England. What he is proposing it what was tried already: laissez faire, an economic system that directly or indirectly led to Francisco Franco, the Reign of Terror or what inspired Karl Marx.

Yeah, it would be totally awesome to live in a world which is completely built on hatred and mistrust. On refusal to cooperate on the most basic public projects. A society like that would self destruct within a generation, like it did many times in the past.

But, of course, all the American "libertarians" are too fucking stupid to read a history book. All you need is the holy scripture written by that fucking retarded Russian cunt.
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>>681711818
I wanted to watch Putin rape his face
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>>681711818
Nothing went wrong...
Except for the fact that he and his supporters haven't just killed themselves yet.
They could all share a noose.
Because socialism.
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>>681722384
Woah bro, slow down. Berniebots may have a poly sci degree but they are from state schools that them that big govt is always good. You can't use logic on this one
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Not enough gas.
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>>681723939
this. i fail to understand how this pathetic depressive little yid became senator in the first place
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>>681711818
It was a combination of careful election rigging by the DNC, voter suppression in the form of long waiting lines, a media bias against Bernie, and the fact that not enough young people came out and voted for him when the time came.
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>>681711818
People truly believe they have to vote for a demo or repub. No one took him seriously until he ran as a dem. Voters are retarded. The ppl can still elect him as president as a write in. There's no need at all to be in any party.
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When you realize he couldn't understand why loans with collateral had lower interest rates than a college loan without collateral. When you realize he thought and stated white people should apologize for slavery. When you realize he said that white people don't know what it's like to be poor. When you realize he said trump level garbage and is actually a bigger buffoon than Trump. Keep trying to fool yourself bud.
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>>681722999
Could you step back a little? You just reek of public school education and government paid teachers.
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>>681722192
Learn to read.
Hilary supporters=Women and cucks
Bernie supporters=12-17 retards.
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>>681724261
Liberals are getting a much needed wake up call that their establishment is shockingly corrupt.
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>>681723984
Well, honestly, poly sci degree says enough. It's an extremely easy major that doesn't require a lot of work and also doesn't provide a lot of opportunities. It's marginally better than something like art, but on the same level as some bullshit like psychology.
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>>681720167
>>681719866
>>681717677
>>681714828
>>681714311

uhg, people know when you samefag. It's like walking into a room and someone is masturbating right there on the sofa and you make that awkward eye contact and then they're all like "I was just getting changed" and screaming at you to leave and no one really wants to say anything and we all just pretend it didn't happen...

Point I'm trying to make is you might as well just remove some ribs and suck your dick. You'll get a lot more out of it than just looking cool online and it's basically the same thing that you're doing in this thread.

more on the issues.

I supported Ron Paul because he was honest. I support Bernie because he's honest. Anyone wants to tell me it's dumb, go for it. Sorry some kids called you a whiney faggot. Don't listen to anon, anon is a fucking idiot. see my name? Anon. I'm a fucking idiot. Disregard that, I suck cocks. Do you. Vote for who you believe in. Fuck your bias, fuck your friends bias, and fuck listening to anon.
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>>681711818
Democratic side is rigged and the only people that can vote someone into office is super delegates and they are all paid off by Clinton
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>>681724269
Bernie quoted a black girl's stance on poverty.

Trump wouldn't rule out nukes in Europe.

Do you know what a false equivalency is? I realize that these topics aren't related, but the amount of insanity is clearly different. For everything that you claim Bernie has said that is super crazy, I can probably find you two ACTUALLY crazy lines from Trump.
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>>681711818
Liberals are fucking retarded, I laugh at all of you retards that thought you were going to go to school for free.

He's a low energy career politician, not to mention a paid off jew. Anyone that thought he had a chance was either underage or retarded, or both.

>trusting a jew
>any year
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