I sexually identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields, dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is impossible and I'm mentally ill, but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AGM-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on, I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me, you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
EVEN BETTER
I'm sorry, am I in the wrong thread?
>>681212572
no the right one ;)
>>681212060
I want hentai
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>>681212060
you faggot you copied this from this website http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/03/male-female-other-young-people-define-gender
>>681212745
>>681212869
>>681212947
HELOPHOBE
>>681213108
>>681212060
I'll bite.
Let's suppose trans people really are delusional. What consequences necessarily follow from that in terms of how we treat them? I'm not sure any do. Yes, you could be a dick to trans people, you could deny them rights or access to various treatments, etc. but we could also ask what we have to gain in doing that or taking some other course of action. What are we losing by letting trans people live happy lives?
>>681213178
>>681212866
kys nigger nobody likes you
>>681213284
>>681213352
>>681213391
sauce?
CAPTCHA
>>681213208
If trans people really are delusional, do we really want to give them unfettered access to the weaker sex at their most vulnerable time... ie. in the bathroom?
>I sexually identify as a 12-year-old boy, so I should be given unfettered access to 11-13-year-old girls.
>>681213929
kek
>>681213538
I dont have sauce sadly, just random pasta.
>>681214027
Why should we think trans people are dangerous as you imply? Are there any actual stats to back this up?
OP or "Apache" i too sexually identify as an apache helicopter, maybe we could hookup some time and i could stay the night at your hangar.
That is me in the picture
>>681214027
yeah man, you got em figured out
They become drag queens so they can watch kid girls pee in public
Why didn't I see it before
>>681214334
From >>681213208
>Let's suppose trans people really are delusional...
Are you implying 12-year-old boys are dangerous?
>>681212060
>respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly
Sorry but there are people like this who already exist. They are called the Rothschild Dynasty.
>>681214777
What makes you think delusion entails danger. If trans people are delusional and statistically less than or equally dangerous as non-trans people then that means delusion=/=danger. So, please explain why you think we should just assume trans people are dangerous or supply some stats which indicate that they are.
>Are you implying 12-year-old boys are dangerous?
I'm not sure what the relevance of this question is supposed to be.
I sexually identify as a can of chef boyardee
>>681215120
Go back to your mums basemant you tin-foil hat wearing kook
lets take over this thread
>>681212060
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/opinion/how-to-explain-mansplaining.html
I'll just leave this here...
>>681215572
>implying the rich don't run the world
MMMMMHHHHHMMMM
>>681215163
You are right. Just because Muslims who think anyone that doesn't share their believes should be killed are delusional, that doesn't make them dangerous.
>It is the explosives that make them dangerous, not the delusion.
Takeover
>>681216099
I didn't say that delusion implies being non-dangerous, I said that delusion doesn't imply danger.
Boob
>>681216477
That's right. It's not the fact that some people are delusional that makes them dangerous. It is their ability to affect others that makes them dangerous.
>>681217130
>It is their ability to affect others that makes them dangerous.
Yes, and, specifically, whether or not they actually do have a tendency to affect people in a particular way. In this case we're talking about the supposed tendency of trans people to sexually or otherwise assault or harass people in bathrooms. Do we have any evidence that trans people have such a tendency and specifically in bathrooms?
>>681217130
One more point:
>It's not the fact that some people are delusional that makes them dangerous
There may be cases where the nature of a specific delusion is what makes the person dangerous but the point is that delusion doesn't have a necessary logical connection to the dangerous. Some delusions may be innocuous.
>>681214777
I think anon might have implied an adult identifying as a child? That's actually a thing, regrettably.
>>681217514
>Yes, and, specifically, whether or not they actually do have a tendency to affect people in a particular way. In this case we're talking about the supposed tendency of priests or other unconvinced pedophiles to sexually or otherwise assault or harass people in bathrooms. Do we have any evidence that priests or other unconvinced pedophiles have such a tendency and specifically in bathrooms?
Fixed it for you
GUYS COME ON
>>681212060
thanks for this OP, made my tuesday morning that much better. I kekked hard
>>681218231
You "fixed" it by applying it to a different sort of case. The moral status of priests' actions typically has no relevance to delusions and much more to do with abuse of authority and molestation. There's evidence in this case that priests are actually committing wrongdoings. Where's the evidence that trans people are committing wrongdoings?
>>681215352
>boyardee
MODS!
>>681218569
>implying that priests- people who believe something to be unquestionable true with no evidence to support said belief- are not delusional
>>681219440
drop it holy shit just post hentai plz
>>681219440
Okay, but we could agree that they're delusional and it still wouldn't establish anything about the logical relationship between delusion and danger. You'd just have picked out one group of people who are both delusional and dangerous.
>>681219440
Maybe an example of what I'm getting at in a less controversial domain would help you understand the point. Let's say someone insists that all 3D shapes are red. If that person cited as evidence his collection of red building blocks, would have actually established that all 3D shapes are red? Of course not. All he's proved is that some 3D shapes are red. Likewise, when you point to examples of delusional people who are dangerous, you prove that some delusional people are dangerous but not that all of them are.
>>681219638
Frankly, I don't know if trans people are dangerouse. They clearly are delusional. If the can pass themselves of as women, and no one can tell the difference, then who cares if they use the women's BR? On the other hand, if they make a seen, and are trying to draw attention to themselves because of their 'sexual identity', then they shouldn't be allowed to use any public BR.
>>681221017
Okay, then we aren't disagreeing. Trans people should be able to use the restroom they identify with unless some special circumstances obtain (some specific trans person is a danger to the public, specifically in bathrooms for some reason).
>>681221388
...and they do not look and act feminine
>>681221683
I say feminine because I know of no women who think they are a man and wish to use the men's room. This delusion appears to be one that mostly males exhibit
>>681221683
Who gets to make that determination? If a trans woman has effeminate mannerisms and physical features but is still noticeably trans (say, her adam's apple is the only masculine thing about her but it gives her away as trans), should she not be allowed in the women's restroom?
>>681222222
ooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>681212060
He is my form
>>681222222
YOU RUINED IT
>>681222222
>Who gets to make that determination
It was already made at birth.
Also... WOW!
>>681222222
checked
>>681222222
>Letting trans people use the bathroom without being demonized ftw
>>681222450
>wanting pic related to be with your little girl while she goes potty
>>681222222
Fact of the matter is, the vast majority of restrooms have privacy included. Go into a fucking stall and who gives a shit who is in there with you?
im this
>>681212060
Stealing this copy pasta. Friends on Facebook with an SJW (somehow). Wanna see how this goes.
>>681222222
this is what you do when you see a trans in the shitter
>>681222222
222222
6 in a row
fucking hell if this was a 4chan risk game you would of won
>>681222834
Exactly, so why care if trans people use the bathrooms they want to use?
>>681223064
exactly
>>681223129
So you're agreeing with me then? You made it sound like you were disagreeing.
>>681223064
what im about to say has nothing to do with trans, or the implications of trans. what im about to point out, is how bad of an idea it is to let women into either bathroom. have you SEEN a womans public bathroom? you think us MEN are disgusting little bastards?
>>681222222
LAME THIS POST WASTED ON FUCKING TRANSS
>>681222222
Holy shit
>>681222222
Hexabait. Nice.
>>681222222
checados
All restrooms should be unisex.
>>681212572
nice boipucci