I don't understand what the image is trying to say

What was the worst thing anyone said about your penis?

Gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

Anyhow, natural selection ensures that animals adapt to their environment, ones that do that the best survive.

If an ancient wolf had traits like a poodel or a spaniel and survives opposed to a wolf who doesn't survive, then over time the wolf with poodel/spaniel traits evolves into a full spaniel or poodel and that will live on in that region.

In other regions, other traits make life more suitable, hence the many breeds of dogs today. Also, since 200 years selective breeding and mixing breeds has influenced this alot, so there's that

>>681132180
"It's so amazing."

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>>681131961
the dogs were bred. Humans do that by picking out what they like and not what is fit for survival. Pudels and other small dogs often need surgery because their bodies arent fit for a long or fullfilled life. Breeding dogs is actually disgusting af if you think about it

>>681132323
whoever thought dogs were a good example of natural selection is retarded

>>681132180
"Put that freakishly huge thing away! It's blocking my view of the movie!"

>>681131961
Dachshunds mostly can't go down stairs. Their butt swings round and they fall arse over face all the way down. Your picture is wrong.

>>681132318
Even though sarcasm doesn't translate well to text, I was still able to pick it up. Kudos to you.

>>681131961
>natural selection
>pic literally shows artificial selection made by humans for their little dog fetish
why are creationist are so retarded?

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>>681132456
>implying weather forecast is just as easy as carbon dating
Also weather forecasts are pretty good nowadays. They predicted snow in fucking april last week and it happened yesterday

>>681132350
Exactly, this is also what led to the agressive nature of pitbulls, unfortunately.

Luckily, that process is being reversed now, and pitbulls are slowly becoming more and more friendly, much the same as any other dog breed. Usually if a dog is agressive it is either trying to be dominant, or insecure. Dominant dogs are fairly easy to train and will not harm you but will correct you if you do something they don't agree with. Most dogs who bite are not vicious, because if they were they could bite your hand of easily, yet they don't

>>681132428
In fact, the creator of the OP image is definitely a raging retard.

>>681132651
So telling everyone that there is a creator serves a purpose?

>>681132651
its funny just how scared creationist get when they dont have someone to tell them exactly how to live life.

>>681131961
>i cant believe soemthing so complex happened without an intelligent creator
>believes that intelligent creator who is so complex he can design the whole universe, came from nothing or rather "just happened".


>uhhh fedora!!!!! chekmate ateiztz!!!

>>681132632

Saying the flood isn't real because the ark isn't real is retarded. Noah's flood is a reference to when the ocean flooded the Mediterranean

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The cringe, it's too much.

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>>681132849
this shit is at least as dumb as tumblr feminist bullshit.

>>681132632
Well, the story goes that it was 2 of every animal. The people who believe this story also tend to not believe in evolution, so every existing species today was at least on that ark.You tell me

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The cringe, it's getting worst.

>>681131961
This image takes creatures in the back that are millions of year distant from one another. And pictures in the front all from the current Era. There is no correlation. And also. It's selective breeding, not natural selection at play

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>>681131961
>tfw the entire thread is bait

>>681131961
>Humans purposefully breeding specific traits into animals
>Natural selection
Someone doesn't understand what they're making comics about.

>>681133111
Trips can't lie

how the fuck are atheists supposed to be experts at evolution?

>>681133097

>Implying they put actual animals onto the arc and not just the DNA of animals

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>>681132988
Get a load of this guy. You can't flood another body of water

>>681131961
It's insulting to suggest that Christians think forced breeding is an example of natural selection, or that it somehow implies evolution is incorrect. Not all Christians are that dumb.

>>681131961
That's not natural selection we bred them into lap dogs.

>>681131961
I know OP is just trolling but.... someone really drew this? They went through all that time to draw this?

STOP IT! I cant take it anymore. I tolerated, i know this is the baitest of all baits but for fuck s sake
>>681132849
what the fuck is this?
Do you think Newton would work on gravity theory if he believed that the earth is flat and god holds us in place? Bacon threw away the bible because it only focused on the afterlife. And pasteur would just go for a spirit healer instead of modern medicine. I could go on but im too angry.

>>681132180
"It's cute."

most unlike your fucking face, vanessa

>>681133294

The Mediterranean was not always full of water

>>681132456
Weather is actually a whole lot more difficult to predict than most things. if we wanted to be 100% sure about every prediction about the weather we would need to know how every single air particle on earth is going to move, and let's face it - we don't have that sort of technology. thats a metric tonne of variables. on the other hand something like carbon or argon dating is very consistent and we can test it by speeding up the reactions that are going on. it comes down to the amount of variables at play.
>>681132480
That's just blatant racism. there is nothing in our DNA that correlates skin colour to tendency for crime. your environment has a far higher influence on your behaviour than other factors at play.
>>681132506
the ark really couldn't have been that big anyway. wooden ships have size limits and after a certain point the ark would have leaked and sank. it would have begun bending at the middle because wood isnt that strong of a material, not to mention it was also somehow built by untrained carpenters. modern ships that are smaller than the ark have to built out of steel to survive the oceans let alone a world-consuming storm. also fine, supposing they got the eggs there, how did they restart all the species in the world from 1 of each animal? incest between animals? because thats what scientists think the cheetahs did (that is why they all look so similar) and theyre not doing so well, let alone doing that for millions of species. also, how did they regulate temperature and food for all of these different animals? did they have a savannah section and a snowy section? it doesnt make much sense.
>>681132531
there is litterally no point being made. scientists use comparative anatomy over time. that is the important part, not just a single skull and poof its proof. "kindness" and "gentleness" are descriptions not evidence.
>>681132596
yeah, cool. a dude got stolen from a tomb. so what? grave robbers have been around for ages dude.

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>>681131961
>dogs
>bred and maintained by men for 10000s of years
>natural selection
we've been specifically selecting dogs for breeding to make new races with new traits since written history

Fine if you want to troll but atleast try

>>681132428
I used to think people that deny evolution understood it, but just disagreed with it for reasons that make sense to them, but not to anyone intelligent. Now I understand that the world is just full of people that don't understand shit.

>>681133294
And they say you can't drown a fish, but you totally can.

>>681132778
This one is actually very accurate and based on non-religious consideraitons.

>>681133543
>10000s of years of dog breeding
It only started like 300 years ago for fun. Before that they just kept the strong ones and killed the weak. It was closer to natural selection than breeding but the resoult were healthy, strong dogs.

>>681133501
That happened over 5 million years ago. I doubt desert-dwelliong nomadic goat herders 2000 years ago kept up to date on the latest archaeological findings

>>681131961
the stairway labelled "natural selection" was done by hmans

>>681132849
>Werhner Von Braun

topkek, the nazi scientist who invented missiles ? What a nice guy !

>>681133848
That number is awfully close to the shoah

>>681131961
And in this picture we learn some people believe humans get shittier every generation

>>681132611
this happened over thousand of generations with minute differences each time finally accumulating to a noticeable difference. dont be an idiot.
>>681132632
like i mentioned earlier, the ark couldnt have been all that big and we have litterally hundreds of thousands of species.
>>681132651
if you pull your reason for life from a 2000 year old book you have bigger issues at hand.
>>681132778
abortion solves society's issues though. and its not like the "baby" was ever actually alive at any point. its like killing cancer cells. if someone held a baby and a fetus above a ledge and had to drop one you would have to flip a coin because in your eyes they're obviously one and the same,
>>681132802
its a lot more complicated than *blam* and there's everything. it even fits some of our observations.
>>681132827
gr8 one m8. im bored now.
>>681132849
none of those scientists based their observations on god though. no one cares what religion you are as long as it doesnt bias your observations and measurements.

>>681132988
didn't know that the flood "covered the tips of the highest mountains" though.

How can GOD be fake if he is REAL?

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fuck off you cringe autist faggot.
KYS.

>>681131961
Replace "natural selection" with "selected breeding"

>>681133943
Do christians really hate themselves this much that they always have to remind themselves they have "sinned". You could live the perfect live and be kind to everyone and everything and in a christians eyes you would still be a sinner

>>681133848

Historically the original bible was written by Jews who were about to be killed off/exiled. They gathered their best intellects and compiled a history of the Jewish people and the world as far as they knew it. Not a literal history. It was intended to be easily understood by the masses and was written so people would have at least a vague idea of what really happened.

Season 3 of Empires on Amazon Prime focuses on the early Jewish history and goes over it in detail if you actually want to know the historical context

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>>681134184

It's not intended to be literal

I don't understand what that picture is trying to convey(it probably is based on some very wrong assumption what evolution is) but dogs were not selected in the sense of natural selection(survival of the fittest) but they were bred by humans to fit their role as watch dog, hunting dog, shepherd dog etc. Also dog races didn't "evolve" from one race to another like the picture is trying to say.

>>681133517
>That's just blatant racism. there is nothing in our DNA that correlates skin colour to tendency for crime. your environment has a far higher influence on your behaviour than other factors at play.

>there is nothing in our DNA that correlates skin colour to tendency for crime


Are you sure about that? And by sure, I mean do you have a source to back that up and not just something bill nye or someone else said on a youtube video once? Not that I don't trust bill nye. But even he has to respect people that want evidence.


Plus, you are making the issue very specific when you say skin color. The same genes that code for skin color might be similar in many different people and not correlate to crimes, but that doesn't account for the fact that some ethnic groups do happen to commit more crimes than others. It would be interesting to see a study done on this, but I'm betting it would be a hard one to fund.

Also, research in genetics is in its infancy. Just because the human genome has been mapped, doesn't mean anyone actually understands it. The only way people come close is through trial and error, and that's not entirely effective.... I mean, fuck, people have been trying to manipulate the dna of chickens to create dinosaurs for a while now and that hasn't worked out super well so far.

tl;dr I'm willing to bet anything it's a mix of heritable traits(dna) and a shitty culture.

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>>681134184
Jews fucking again!
REEEEEEEEE

>>681133853
what is the answer, though?

>>681133517
>there is nothing in our DNA that correlates skin colour to tendency for crime
Muh "race is skin deep"
get out

>>681134404
I'd take this thread over another cuck thread any day.

>>681132988
No it's not because that happened a shitload of times before humans were even around. It also happened of a gigantic span of time.

Also, the mediterranean basin was probably the hottest and least hospitable place on earth before it flooded.

Back to the drawing board for you Mr. I don't research things.

>>681133853
Sooo, where, then? It's been years since I read that book, but as far as I remember, he just runs off to live with "other people", whoever they are.
But maybe I read an abridged version, or my memory is lacking.
Does anyone know?

>>681134184
My reply was to the guy who thinks the flood story is a literary retelling of the Zanclean flood, which may have filled the Mediterranean basin 5 million years ago.
The evidence for the event has only been discovered in the last few decades. Pretty unlikely the Biblical flood story was based on that particular event.

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shitload of years, sorry

>>681134441
Incest

>>681134618
This.

This is exactly the danger in trying to match up events in a religion to events in real life. It's way too easy for ignorant people to go "well that seems like this, so it must be this"

This is how we ended up with ancient aliens and it needs to stop.

>>681133933
He didn't necessarily want to win the war. He used Hitler for funding his research. He didnt care about whatever Hitler did with it. He developed the first liquid fuelled rocket engine, and is the father of modern day space programs. He worked for NASA after the war

>>681134385
some ethnic groups having higher crime rates correlates to their environment. people in Africa have higher crime rates not because they're black but because Africa is a shithole. Western Europe has some of the lowest murder rates yet white people in South Africa murdered millions. its environment, not DNA. these studies are rather numerous, and although they rarely specify on race specifically it is touched on. its essentially the nature vs nurture debate.

sure, we dont fully understand the genome and it is very complicated. such a significant correlation would have likely been noticed by now and outside of that the amount of melanin in your skin doesnt really have much of an effect on how you should behave. If it did you would notice albino people in India or whatever having distinctly different behaviour to their standard counterparts.

>>681134184
The assyrians were right to exile them. If only they'd killed them all of. The world might be a much more fair and peaceful place today.

>>681131961
I don't actually understand what the person is trying to say about natural selection, or how they came to think this way

Are they trying to say that animals naturally 'devolve'? I can't think of any good reason why they would think this, that's not how natural selection works at all

are they also implying that poodles are somehow evolutionarily inferior or something, or that they are a later breed of dog? wtf is going in this picture, how does the cartoonist function in everyday life

>>681132531
Lol. Even the cartoonist couldn't think of a reason...

>>681131961
But... dogs are the product of selective breeding, there is hardly anything natural about them.

Also things like ring species, fossils, genetics, and over a century of reserch and evidence prove evolution.

However that dosnt mean people arn't entitled to their own beliefs, as long as someone isn't hurting others who cares if they belive In creation or evolution?

It's such a dumb argument.

>>681132506
Do humans come out of the womb fully grown? Fucktarded cartoonist

So yet another dumbfuck mentally retarded godfag gets everything wrong, nothing to see here, move on. It's over, religion is disproven, go home godfags, cry over the death of your beloved god, there is no one to watch over you any more, you must take care of your own life and be strong by yourself, welcome to the real goddamn world.

>>681135176
Correlation does not equal causation, even though I think that it is a major factor.

But at the same time. I think there are many factors. One being genetics.

For example, when people live in tribal societies in areas with little resources, they almost always resort to raiding to get what they need. That does not mean that there are no heritable traits among those people that make them more or less likely to take up raiding. It just means that they have an excuse to be doing it.

The difficult part with humans is our genetic bottleneck that's basically made us one of the least diverse species. It's easy to look at our genome and say "we're all the same and there aren't any marked differences between race!" but it's an unfounded claim made by idealists.

>>681131961
Evolution = Change over time
That is all, there is no 'race to the end', nor 'forwards, backwards, less than, or more than something else'
In fact the story of the dog, as we now know it is quite interesting, The wolves with the least aggression, and most affection received the most attention from humans, being fed more scraps and surviving longer to reproduce, thus the most advantageous traits where fine tuned, and anti social traits weeded out as part of a natural equilibrium to a changing environment.

>>681135343
Christian logic 101:

If you don't have evidence for something, just blurt out a bunch of nice sounding things. Because obviously, if god isn't real, why would you care about those things?

Are there any religious folks that believe evolution, and laws of physics is God's doing?
Science is not disproving religion. Science explains how god put everything together.

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>Christian logic 101:

>>681135943
no, the genetic difference between people who are physically near by is very very very small because their populations have been interbreeding for ages. By this I mean a person in Germany for instance will have very similar genes to someone in Russia because throughout history these populations have not been isolated. Yet, their behaviour is astronomically different and their behaviour changes over time too. A German in the 1940s had very different behaviour a Russian of the 1940s and different behaviour to a modern day German. Their genetics could not have changed enough throughout this time to have caused any behavioural change.
This largely applies across continents too. if there is any causation of genetics that also affects race and changes our behaviour it must be extremely extremely small. the nature vs nurture debate is ongoing but is very largely agreed upon.

>>681136222
Most of the ones with an I.Q. above 100 do. I've met plenty of them, and that's the first thing they say about evolution. "yeah but god probably made it happen"

It isn't until you get the actual retards that will say shit like "well if we came from monkies then why are there monkies! KING ME"

>>681136222
Yes, to a point. There's certain challenges, because you have to ask if man cam from pond scum, at what point did man have a soul, and did mutant pond scum matter to God or not.
So there is a challenge there of sorts. I don't really have a problem with the origin of the universe, the Bible doesn't give many details about the timeline of the creation of earth/man/garden of eden, what have you.

Mostly I don't give it much thought, because it genuinely doesn't concern me, or what I need to do in my life.

>>681132428
More like human selection rather than natural selection

>>681136643
Yep. You shouldn't really be surprised that people use religion as a shield from reality. The same ones usually advocate wars against Islam, or how Israel is somehow exempt from the morals that stop most states from committing sustained genocide

>>681131961
Dogs did not undergo natural selection

>>681136643
Fucking enablers, saying "all of us aren't like that" when anything goes wrong, even though it's their same fucking religion that influenced this person. He read the same shit you did
>so? i'm not like that
so? you don't need it in the first place.

>>681131961
well those tiny dogs are adapted to live in tiny apartments aren't they?
for me that is evolution

>>681136398
But they are differentiated by culture and those cultures could have an influence over the way populations reproduce.

Also, you are talking about timescales that wouldn't have much of an impact on a species if we are only talking about macroevolution. A couple thousand years might not be enough to create an entirely different species, but it's more than enough time for microevolutionary traits to appear.

I'll use domestic dogs as an example since they are easy. Even though, admittedly, they have way much more genetic diversity to work with than humans. With dogs though, they exhibit a wide range of temperaments and physical characteristics, and that's from a relatively short amount of time with selective breeding. Even though it's not necessarily forced selective breeding with humans, like I said before, the culture you belong to can influence the kind of people you have kids with.

It's perfectly logical to think that if you can breed a dog to be a nasty asshole in a few generations, you can also do that people people over more generations simply because being a nasty asshole might be seen as more assertive, or it more correlate with other favorable traits and just hitch along for a ride.

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pro life and pro choice are NOT mutually exclusive viewpoints.

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>>681131961
Ran out of neverending story little empress screencaps finally?

>>681131961
An the topic if this years summer shitposting has been revealed

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was wondering why I hadn't seen any of those for a while

>>681131961
Just because something gets "smaller" doesn't mean it's not evolving. Dinosaurs died out because they couldn't thrive in the environment anymore, while small mammals excelled. Isn't this fucking obvious to people? You know what, you're a real dumb shit OP.

>>681137466
>He read the same shit you did
You are vastly overestimating a lot of people. History is littered with examples of people following a religious leader rather than investigating the text for themselves. If you're American, you could probably figure that out from watching the news for five minutes

>so? you don't need it in the first place.
What do you need, anon? Pretty sure the influence of religion on my life has been generally positive
>although I am on /b/ so there's that

They say there are no atheists in the foxhole.

Even fewer when death is certain.

None once the final curtain falls.

God’s Word declares, “The fool hath said in his heart ‘there is no God'” (Psalm 14).

The point of the picture is that selection, whether natural or manmade, decreases information / makes things weaker.
Evolution requires an increase of info
Selection we have proof of, we can see it happen in front of our eyes. For evolution we have no proof

>>681133408
>getting triggered in bait threads
>topkek

>>681132849
Apple doesn't put logos on the front...

>>681131961
Dog breeds aren't natural selection tho.
Humans did that it's pure artifice.

>>681131961
sniffing butts

>>681142800
It's splitting hairs, but
Evolution = Change over time
Wolves, and dogs for that matter, changed to suit environmental pressures, human company being one, the more social and handsome dogs where given favor to succeed and reproduce, and pass those traits to their offspring. - Humans being part of the natural world, one can't really make an argument that the wolves did not simply react to a changing environment, as do all things.

>>681131961
Nature created wolves, we created dogs. Nothing about this contradicts the theory of evolution and its explanatory power for the origin of species.

and op is still a fag

>>681143256
yeah ive had a few cats. i think they must have evolved too make humans want to take care of them. survival strategy

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