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Ok /b/, need some advice...though I probably already know what I'm going to do.

>Me, 50. Been with my wife for 5 years, married the last 1 (our 2nd marriages).
>Was single for 20 years after my first marriage
>My son is grown and out of the house, my step-daughter is 13 (and no, I'm not molesting her...this isn't
>that kind of post).
>I bring in 2/3rds of our income right now (though her's can fluctuate since she owns her own business).
>Wife is pretty and smart.
>the problem is that I feel like I've been bait-and-switched when it comes to our sex life.
>Wife was a kinky sub before we got married. Got anal a few times a month (something I told her early on
>was a requirement for me)
>We had sex more before we were married. While I understand this is not uncommon, it started with 3-4 times a week.
>1 year into being married, we've had sex once in the last 6 weeks. No anal July of last year. No sub since April of
>last year. Boring, vanilla sex when we do have sex. I'm having a hard time getting into it.
>I've tried talking to her about it, she says nothing is wrong. I've tried doing more around the house (and I was already doing my
>share), romancing her, etc. Nothing is working.

While I love my wife, sex and love have never been tied together for me. It's all fucking to me whether it's a stranger or it's someone you care about. I'm seriously considering stepping out...either massage parlors, escorts or strippers. I had a lot of fun with that before I met my wife. I'm 50, my dick still works and I'm not dead. What do /b/?
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an hero
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>>680981665
LOL. Not even in the realm of possibility. Other than this shit, my life is great.
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>>680981156
>No anal July of last year. No sub since April of last year. Boring, vanilla sex when we do have sex

do stuff then, tell her thats what you want to do
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>>680982225
I've already done that. She's always got an excuse as to why not. Last night I was just caressing her ass when we were in bed. I was reaching down and she told me that she has a plug in there. I told her that her backdoor had no plug. She told me it's exit only. I told her that's not necessarily the case. All of this was joking. Then she said, "Nope, exit only." And I lightheartedly said, "Well, that's kinda sad because it's a waste." She got really serious and somewhat hostile and said, "It is if I say it is."

WTF.
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>>680983018
Sure, rub it in.
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>>680981156
>I've tried talking to her about it, she says nothing is wrong.

First off, why are you getting advice from, what are almost guaranteed to be children that are MAYBE older than your daughter?

Second off, did the actual conversation go like "Hey, we should do sub stuff like we used to" and she went "no, nothing's wrong"?

Like, have you actually told her "Us not doing things for this long is a serious problem"?
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>>680983267
Because there's most certainly at least a couple of adults on here that have had similar issues.

Secondly, the conversation went like this: "Why don't we do the stuff we used to do...like master-sub and anal? Is there something wrong?"

Answer: "Nothing's wrong, I just don't feel like it?

Me: Why not?

Answer: "I don't know, not in the mood"

Me: Honey, I told you a long time ago the things I want from our sex life. This is kind of an issue for me...and I want to know what has changed."

Answer: Nothing has changed, what made you think I liked it before?

Me: You told me you liked being a sub before. You told me the erotica you read that got you excited was all sub stuff. You told me after I hogtied you that you wanted to do it again. I never abused the safe word. What's up? Why no sub, why no anal?

Answer: I don't have a reason, I just don't feel like it.

At that point I let it go and went to sleep. Maybe she's uncomfortable doing this crap with her daughter under the same roof, I don't know. But she won't tell me so I'm kinda stuck.
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>>680981156
Diagnosis: You're not fucking her like you did when you were first dating. Parking lot blowjobs, under table handjobs.

She likes danger sex anon. Make it dangerous.
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>>680983962
I don't think that's the case. I'm seriously wondering if she's going through menopause.
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>>680981156
You had leverage before you got married, now that you are tied to her you have no leverage. This is why you don't get married if you are a guy. You have no way to get what you want from her now, its completely her choice and she knows it. Good luck.
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>>680984489
I'm not going to divorce her. Other than sex, things are really good between us. If the sex issue doesn't resolve, I'll just get some strange.
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>>680911111
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>>680984683
I never said divorce her in fact I recommend NOT to. If you split you are going to get screwed more than likely. You make MORE than here so you would owe her alimony and she has a daughter which you would get stuck paying support for at least 5 years on plus half of whatever you own. You have it figured out what you have to do to be happy. Just don't get caught as that would make for an easy divorce in here favor if she caught you. Again, good luck.
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>>680983920
"Well, that's kind of an issue, because _I_ feel like it. I love you and I don't want to force you, but you need to understand that I am going to keep putting some pressure on you until you're either willing to meet more of my needs--even if it's not entirely enjoyable for you--or give me a better reason that "I'm not in the mood." This is a partnership and I will expect you to work with me on this."

Let it go at that, but bring it up periodically. When you do have sex, push her. Be forceful. Give orders. They can be playful, but be authoritative. "Stop." "Slower." "Deeper." Whatever. Over time you may re-establish your place on top. Good luck.
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>>680981156
>I've tried doing more around the house (and I was already doing my
>>share), romancing her, etc. Nothing is working.
>Ok lemme think about all the things I've done to make myself sexy for my wife
>Ok I did a bunch of chores. She must love chores since she's doing them all the time
>What else what else what else
>Did I do romance? I think I did
The fact that you listed those things in that order should tell you everything you need to know.

Don't like, OP. You're a fat, gross piece of shit, aint ya? Maybe that's why your wife won't fuck you? People typically fuck people they're sexually attracted to. Maybe focus on that, dumbass.
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>>680985061
I'd have to come up with $15k immediately for her half of the down payment on our house. Money I don't have since I pay most of the bills and she's paying down debt and saving for our retirement.

It would be VERY messy if we divorced. And I can do what I need to and NOT get caught.

I did do one very smart thing. We have a joint account but we each have separate checking accounts...I get to put in a few hundred dollars a month into my checking account as does she in her checking.
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>>680985419
Nah, I'm the same weight since we met. So is she....
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>>680983920
Well, tell her this then. "Part of why we even got married was this stuff. You're free to not be in the mood all you want, but there'll be problems as a result."
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>>680985746
I have to say it so it doesn't come off like a threat.

"Part of why I was attracted to you sexually, was all the freaky stuff you used to do."
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>>680985584
Have you two thought of seeing a sex therapist? Could help you both address the issues that you're having and voicing your problems in a non-judgmental environment.
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>>680985927
I'm thinking about it....probably cheaper for me to pay for an escort once a month. LOL
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>>680985423
I'm glad you put effort into trying to keep somethings separate; however, I don't think it would do any good with the checking. If it's in the bank the courts can see it and divide it up anyway they see fit regardless on whose name is/isn't on it. Just like if the house was in YOUR name she'd still be entitled to half (really all of it these days). If you can pay with cash I recommend it. Take more cash out than you need and start stashing it somewhere safe (not in any other bank accounts). Sounds crazy but if shit feel though at least you have cash to live on that no one could take.
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>>680986084
Much healthier for the relationship too - it should show her that you care about her concerns too. Also escorts are bad news. Blackmail and bullshit - they're all fucking crazy and you'll never know if they have an STD or not.
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>>680986270
I'm not new to the hobby. Played around a lot for years before I met my wife.

But yeah, it's a line I don't want to cross...the hobby can be addictive. Fucking hot 20-somethings vs my 47 year-old wife.
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>>680985882
Assuming she's around the same age as you, she doesn't give a shit dude. Married girls my age already look at sex as an eyerolling chore, and I'm 30.

If she did that stuff before you got married, it was the price of admission in order to grab a branch before she hit the ground, to paraphrase Louis C.K.

The conversation needs to center around the fact that, in no uncertain terms, the current situation is not okay period. "What can I do to make you in the mood more often? How can we get back to how it was? 'I don't know' is not a valid answer."

If you didn't get a pre-nup, you're an idiot.
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>>680981156

>50 years old

It ain't you bro. Its menopause.
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>>680986989
This man gets it.
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>>680986989
> Married girls my age already look at sex as an eyerolling chore, and I'm 30.

Shit, I'm male and 46 and I'm the one who finds it an eyerolling chore!
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Smoke weed. Seriously, OP. I'm almost the same age as you and have the same boring married sex life. Getting stoned makes everything better, including routine sex. If you can get your wife to smoke, too, then she might loosen the fuck up and try something different, though probably not anal–that ship has sailed.

If you get satisfaction from massage parlor tug jobs, escorts, and lap dancers, then go for it. That shit will burn a hole in your wallet faster than weed will.

More doors close than open at our age. Nothing to be done about it.
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>>680987540
Honestly? I'm right there with you. Maybe it's my porn-addled brain, but it's definitely not something I want to do nonstop.
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>>680981156
Only on /b/ do you have to go ahead and say that you are NOT molesting your stepdaughter.
I fucking love this place
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>>680987802
Hey maybe that's a solution. Have you tried molesting your step daughter
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>>680981156
I'm married and around your age. You are too experienced to not know the answer already. If you're going to get what you want physically, it's going to be from someone other than your wife.

I always thought massage parlors and prostitutes were fucking gross so I've never had any interest in that. I never went looking to cheat but when certain things at home were closed off to me, I found a few girls here and there who were game.

So you either pick up some outside hobbies, or live with the frustration because the marriage is otherwise pretty damn good.

And at least you have that consolation OP. A lot of people have shitty marriages and problems getting along, AND bad sex issues, AND are so financially tied together they'd be financially fucked if they split up.
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>>680987798
I can't watch porn. It just depresses me how much more the women enjoy it when I really don't (very much). Also, I find it hard to turn off my brain. I get the impression that male "performers" in porn don't have much of a brain to turn off...

I honestly don't know why she hasn't left me yet
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>>680987802
I'm sure it's not that simple though, like he's "not anymore" or "i'm not molesting her because I always pull out". The truth will come out eventually.
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>>680981156
>What do /b/?

Just tell her you want to fuck other women and if it's okay with her.
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>>680987921
I bet she does anal.
We need face pictures
Face pictures of his stepdaughter
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>>680988154
(contd)

my wife seems to have endless orgasms too no matter what I do. I could probably sneeze on her clit and she'd orgasm.

after a while it feels like your best mate at school has a new remote controlled plane and it showing it off while you stand there, watch and think "I wish I was having that much fun"
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>>680988247
"Hey, if you're not in the mood, I'd like to fuck other women, is that cool with you?"

"Of course not"

"Okay, let me rephrase. You're not fucking me, and I want to fuck, so I'm going to fuck someone else. Only you have the power to stop this sequence of events."
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>>680988342
LOL...
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>>680988592
>i promised not to share them.
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>>680988586
This and please tell us you have a prenup
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>>680988952
Not going to happen...I'm not going there...
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>>680989071
Unfortunately no....
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Simple solution. Come home with a pie. Wife will ask why'd you get the pie? You say, "I helped a young nurse by changing her flat tire. She came by after work today and brought me a "thank you pie".

You'll soon have 1 in the pink and 2 in the stink anon..
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>>680987638
Weed isn't my thing....never was. My wife enjoys it a couple of times a year...but not my thing.
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>>680989071
>With a buttsex clause.
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>>680989416
no kidding...
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Bone your step daughter, im sure she has a tigther ass anyway
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>>680983920
Seriously, I'm surprised you don't see what the problem is: you got married. I really hate to go full-blown Game Theory / Redpill on you, but women are shallow, insecure and fickle. She was a freak before you got married because that's what she needed to be to cement the relationship. Now that you're married you can't easily walk away and she has no incentive to perform.
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rape her
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>>680990014
Shut up, she loves me it was never purely about sex. I got married for a reason beyond sex
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I think what's more maddening is that she thinks she can just stop having sex with you. She either doesn't care or thinks you'll suffer in silence. Obviously she's not at all worried about losing you. She has all the power and she knows it.
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>>680990340
Yeah great advice. So what do I tell her? Starting to get pissed off with these generic answers now
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>>680990014
I've considered this.

Before I was married, I lived in a condo. My expenses were 1/3 of what I have now. I had a LOT of fun before I was married...even with my wife. Went on a lot of expensive vacations (Rome, Hawaii twice, etc).

Now I get none of that...not to mention I have a teenage step-daughter living under the same roof which can me a lot of fun (sarcasm). Fortunately, she's a good kid...but still a teenage girl with all the psychotic nature of a teenage girl.
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>>680990506
Have you tried fucking your step daughter?
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>>680990635
No, and that's not going to happen...
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>>680990232
I never said that she doesn't love you. I never said that you married her for sex. What I said was that you're married now and can't walk away easily. The freaky sex was the cost of maintaining the relationship to her. Now that you're married you don't have any leverage to demand that price. She has the leverage now.
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>>680981156
Dude.

>be me, 54
>wife runs away, so I'm newly single
>go through Match.com like a muthafuka
>tell every woman I meet "no marriage"
>every woman wants to fuck, wants to be "the one"
>no such thing as neo
>find a great gf. fuck like crazy
>gf sez "marry me"
>I say "no"
>"but I can't stay without marriage"
>"no"
>gf doesn't leave, keeps working the dick harder.
>profit.

I'm never getting married again. My kids are grown, so, why?

Do like Nancy Reagan - Just Say No.
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>>680990435
You should know her well enough to know how she'll respond. If you really don't want to divorce her then just find someone else to fuck. She drove you to this. She doesn't just get to decide to end your sex life! If she doesn't want to have sex with you then find it someone who will. It's too easy.
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Just stop initiating. It'll make her really insecure and she'll try to talk to you about it, and you can tell her exactly what you just told us. Say it's not what you signed up for, and you're giving up. Then either work on it, reach an acceptable compromise, or get a divorce.

Why the fuck are you even bothering go get married at your age? You'll be dead in 30 years (if you're lucky) why waste it on monogamy?
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>>680990232
>>680990232
I didn't write the post you replied to, but it's obvious that he was talking about why SHE got married, not you. No one gives a shit about why your dumbass married her
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>>680990867
this x 1000
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>>680990921
I hadn't been married in 20 years until I got remarried last year.

Now I'm wondering WTF. Other than sex, it's been pretty great...
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>>680991070
>other than sex

You mean that thing you think about a hundred times a day?
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>>680991304
LOL...yeah, that...
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>>680990992
Yes. That's exactly right. This isn't about him, it's about her. And to her, the sex was the cost of maintaining the relationship. Now that they're married he can't get out of the relationship as easily and therefore she has no reason to try as hard to maintain the relationship.
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>>680991070

I was married twice in my life. Both wives got 1/2 of my shit (which means I'm down to 1/4 of what I would have had otherwise.

Ain't going to 1/8th. kek.

Women look at men like we are walking ATM's. Even my gf is always needing money. But at least she doesn't OWN 1/2 of my money. It's just me being nice now, and everything I got, I own 100%

Sounds like a shitty way to live your life, but you know boys? It's the only way to protect yourself. You cannot trust Broads. I wish my old man had taught me that.
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Op 2nd marriage here also. Wf was golden for a few years now we 10 in and she gets boring. We had that talk also. It helps to get a hotel room or cabin she's much more open to things again. Told her the other week if she can't get to handling business we can get divorced or I can find a woman to take care of me but she needed to pick. So I understand. Its not easy. I love her think the world of her she's great to me but need sex and it needs to be more than heres my pussy fuck it and move on.
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>>680991550
Don't be so hard on pappy, he did his best.
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>>680990962
Actually this. Let her know she's not keeping you sexually satisfied. If she doesn't step up her game there are others who will.
Like your 13 yr old daughter. Post pics faggot.
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>>680983920
>Maybe she's uncomfortable doing this crap with her daughter under the same roof
Could be.

Also could be something more. I regularly used to have anal with my wife, occasionally initiated by her (we're older than you). Then she got slight haemorrhoids and anal is now off the menu - which I understand. Some women might be uncomfortable discussing such stuff.

Also how old is she? She could be in peri-menopause, and that can fuck with hormones and emotions.
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>>680981156
>I like sex. You don't want to have sex and that makes me unhappy. How do you feel about making me unhappy?

You either go to the bedroom from there or to Tinder.
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>>680992360
She's 47...and I've considered that menopause is a possibility.
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>>680989328
Well you can still cheat and get away with it as long as you aren't a retard about it. If she won't talk to you or give at least an inch then this is your only option for sexual satisfaction. Other option is to prove she's cheating on you and divorce Scott free, because *spoiler* she is cheating on you.
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OP, just quit being a pussy and "rape" her. Say nothing, pin her down and take what's yours. If she still stops you and I mean like starts throwing punches level, then you have to find a new bitch to fuck.
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