>>680957772
Iam, once again the white man is leading the way for the advancement of the human race, and everyone will follow kicking and screaming (tho the indians are there with us on the animal front)

Fuck off

>>680957772
meat does not taste good on its own though

>>680958110
excellent refute, you justified animal cruelty, and global warming for a burger

I am vegan OP you faggot

being vegan is more then just not eating meat. are you telling me you didnt put eggs in your brownies?

>we are not, only herbivores can develop atherosclerosis

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>680957772
>brownies
>not made with milk, eggs, and butter

>>680957772
i really just dont want to

>>680957772
CUS MM BACON LOL ITS LOVE AND LYFE AND IM ALFA SO I FUKIN KILL WEAKER BEINGS THAN ME FOR FUN, THATS WHAT ALFAS DO, THEY DONT PROTECT. ALSO PLANTS FEEL PAIN AND OUR ANCESTORS ATE MEAT AND AT 1 POINT HUMANS WOULD OF DIED IF THEY DIDNT EAT MEAT, PLUS YOU USED TO EAT MEAT AND WHAT IF YOU WAS STRANDED ON A DESERT ISLAND PLUS IF YOU LIKE ANIMALS WHY DO YOU EAT THEIR FOOD LOL

>your not eatting meat is not going to magically stop animals being killed en mass.
>"global warming" isn't real

>>680957772
Because regardless of how much you wine about it, you can't make me give a shit.

Why the fuck should I care about some stupid cunt animal that's barely sentient? Abuse them for everything they're worth.

>>680957772
>we are not, only herbivores can develop atherosclerosis
Lost the argument there. And your brownies look like shit.

>>680958447
your attitude is retarded.
you think that becoming vegan wont change anything, but how the fuck can things change if you dont want to.

Climate change**** is very real

>>680958287
its true though
also
>side swinging jaw
> no instinct to hunt or kill animals
> need vit c from diet
> weak jaw with small opening
> small stomachs
> long digestive tract
> sweats through pores
> slow, weak
> gets disease from eating animal products over a long period
> veggies fruits etc are actually needed
i could go on

>>680957772
But eating an organism isn't 'natural' in the way rape is natural - IE something that can be done; eating organisms underpins the entire structure of evolution, trophic function and system resilience. Basically it's why life is, it's how excess is disposed of and it's how the ecosystem as a whole survives. No, that isn't equivalent to nonconsentual duck-sex

>>680957772
What if I simply don't care about my environment, animal suffer and alleged health problems, that are yet to be proven?

I will not become vegan
Vegetarian yes but you retarded ass need to stop keep going around and act like you are the savior of the entire planet

>>680957772

People eat meat out of habit mostly.

Shit got cold and food got scarce, so we started eating the deer and the mammoths.

Bing bang boom. Chicken nuggets and Reuben sandwiches

>people replying to old copypasta

>>680957772
Probly bait but people that actually think like this are the reason ill never be a vegan

>>680957772
Okay Taylor.

>>680958553
> no instinct to hunt or kill animals
what planet are you living on?

>>680957772
Are those brownies with or without pot? That decides if im ok with becoming vegan...

>>680958447
>"global warming" isn't real
Dude I eat meat too but global warming is real stop hiding yourself from true or acting like a troll

>>680958779
earth

>>680958553
sure, because dogs cannot develope atherosclerosis right? oh that's right dogs are herbivores aren't they?

and what about chimps, are you going full retard and say that they are herbivores too?

>>680958870
I think he wanted to say, that man made global warming isn't real. Which I agree on.

>>680958973
Not all the global warning but you maybe are not considering how much CH4 cows produce, and trust me it's alot

>>680958447
>what is supply and demmand

>>680958479
refute the actual arguments vegans make rather than making it about yourself.

>>680958494
see above

>>680958657
its not yet to be proven, cholesterol causes build up of plaue in arteries. That is a fact, if you like it or not. And if you really dont care about suffering and our planet then kudos for honesty.

>>680958667
>animal agriculture is #1 cause of global warming
> milk and eggs and cheese still cause suffering
but yeah ignore the facts annd take it as an attack on you ayy.

>>680958745
>stating facts is the reason i wont go vegan

>>680958779
planet earth. Ffs how dumb are you, humans have no instinct to kill animals whatsoever, look at how any child acts around animals, we never have to stop them from chasing after animals when they get hungry.

>>680958929
they dont unless they have glands removed or get force fed insane amounts in labs. Also yes chimps do get it, they eat like 3% if that from meat, thats a herbivore.

>>680957772
Because I want to eat meat, just like you want to not eat meat. Why does it matter to you what I eat?

>>680957772
>Why have you not gone vegan yet /b/ ?
Because for every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three.

>>680957772
>Why have you not gone vegan yet /b/ ?
Because pork isn't a vegetable.

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>>680959284
because it causes suffering without justification, because it is killing our planet and because it causes chronic disease in our own species. Its not an attack on you as a person, pull your head outta your arse

>>680959284
It matters because you are destroying your own health, the environment and cause pain and suffering to sentient beings.

Do you want to eat meat? Really? Do you feel like running up to an animal and biting into its throat, so you can kill it and devour its flesh.

Because I fucking love the taste of meat.
Also, meat lets your body fucking develop and be strong not like your weak stick hands

>>680959090
Methane is a tiny fraction of c02 output by humans; and more to the point that methane is being produced from material the cow et - IE nothing new is entering the system. Coal power is a problem because material outside the system (buried carbon) is introduced into it raising levels. We've had super large organisms before all over the planet and they don't catastrophically change temperatures. This is because methane has residence time in the atmosphere measured in decades.

C02 has atmospheric residence time in centuries to millenia. It's both orders of magnitude more common and orders of magnitude longer lasting in it's effects.

>>680959090
I think the environment had to deal with greater challenges than some cows producing methan.

>>680959127
>they dont unless they have glands removed or get force fed insane amounts in labs. Also yes chimps do get it, they eat like 3% if that from meat, thats a herbivore.

NONE of the above is true.

> muh, chimps eat only a 3% of meat, that's not being omnivore

>>680957772

because i'm evil and i enjoy the pain and suffering i cause innocent animals and the butthurt i cause to you.

>>680957772
Honestly mainly out of hate for people who are vegan.
Vegetarians are just fine but vegan is just ridiculous to me. Literally millions starving around the world and there you are calling them murderers for getting to eat an egg once a week.

>>680959439
>killing our planet and because
The earth isn't a sentient being. In principle, it's nothing more than a rock in space with some water on it. No one, especially the earth, will care about it "being killed".

>>680959439
Tell me, what else are you doingto save our planet? You're using an electronic device that is powered by something other than solar or wind power. It's filled with materials mined in a way that destroys the planet. How do you get around? In a car or on a bus that burns fossil fuels?

>>680957772
i like meat, i like the taste of meat, i like the nutrition meat gives me, i dont give a fuck if something barely conceous has to die to enrich and enable my life.

>meaningless moralising

if a lion cannot survive on artificially produced food that is supposed to provide all the nutrition of meat then how are we supposed to?

no, ill eat what i want to eat.

brownies are nice, cant imagine making them without animal products though.

>>680959127
> Why have you not gone vegan yet /b/ ?
> refute the actual arguments vegans make rather than making it about yourself.

Hey OP asked, I answered. 7 Billion people on this planet and not a single one of us really deserves life. Call me a nihilist, I suppose it would be accurate, but we're all going down in a flaming blaze of idiocy anyways so fuck it, delicious edible death.

>>680959634
>he thinks meat is magic and that all vegans are weak

>>680959675
go to google then type in conspiracy facts, all referenced

>>680959787
Even vegans are fine in my book if they can keep their shit to themselves. It's just faggots like OP who are the problem.

comfy af and I couldn't care less about a cow dying

>>680957772
Because meat is delicious and life doesn't have intrinsic value, vegans are feel-good moralists that don't realize it's counter-producive to police your diet in such an extreme way.

>>680959127

>>milk and eggs and cheese still cause suffering

start not milking cows and see how much fun they're gonna have

>>680959681
it is true, and yes, they have no requirement to eat it, only do so because they are wild and they have over 90 percent plant based diet..thats a herbivore.

Whats this got to do with you killing animals anyway?

>>680957772
You know what you can vegan brownies? Compost.

>>680959913
>go to google then type in conspiracy facts, all referenced
No, why. You should do what I do. Care less, live happily and finally die. Everything you do has no purpose.

>>680959127
>milk and eggs and cheese still cause suffering
How I've been in cows and chicken farms and I never saw an animal scream in pain

>>680957772
I don't care about the welfare of animals. From my perspective if they're not feeding us there's no point in their existence.

>>680959787
so you hate people who dont cause suffering? you hate people who want to improve others health and save the planet? You know those millions that are starving, they could be saved if people were vegan. Because there is 65 million square kilometers used for agriculture out of that 50 million is used for animal product production and 15 million for crop growing. Now 50% of ALL those crops are used to feed all of those animals. Could you imagine if there were no animals too feed? We would have even more free land to farm crops. That would definitely help the millions that are starving.

and why do you think that plants lives are less important than animals? because they don't suffer?

>>680957772
Because I honestly don't give one mate.

>>680959913
way easier to get proteins from meat

>inb4 a meme """food"""

>>680960026
Mine neger

>>680957772
Because I don't have to

even vegan pussy tastes shit

>>680960161
Plants feel pain

>>680957772
om·ni·vore
ˈämnəˌvôr/Submit
noun
an animal or person that eats food of both plant and animal origin.

We're omnivores, deal with it. Also, i just dont care for the animals i eat. They were bred by evolution to be cattle, my lunch meat.

>>680957772
because i enjoy having power over other species, killing and eating them gives me empowerment as a human
(compensating for my small dick & weak physique)

>>680957772
>brownies I made

With no eggs and probably no butter either... just eat a piece of chalk you faggot.

Can you explain why it is that every single person who doesn't eat meat is either a woman or a huge gaping effeminate man-cunt?

Don't break your arm trying to pat yourself on the back with this moral preening you fucking fairy.

>>680960301
Plants feel shit. Their chemicals just 'react' to certain stimula.

>>680957772
Vegans are generally unhealthy and sickly people.

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>>680959127
You seem like a pretty smart kid... Why the fuck are you debating veganism on /b/? Why are you here In this vacuous shit board?

>>680960194
The evolution of our brain is the result of eating meat why these people don't want to understand that?

>>680960446
It doesn't fit their agenda

>>680960446
Oh of course man, just look at how smart lions are

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Because this is what vegans look like.

>>680958236
Fuck off

>>680960545
good post

>>680960545
Lions don't cook their meat, m8.

>>680960396

you can use that argument for literally every living thing you dumb bastard.

you think animals suffer or are afraid? no, their brain just instructs their bodies to produce certain chemicals in response to certain stimuli.

you think you were ever angry, happy or in love? no, your brain just instructs your body to produce certain chemicals in response to certain stimuli.

>>680960307
Hey now, as much gun as we're all having poking the vegan, I have to object. Humanity did more to make them lunch meat than evolution.

>>680957772
We are omnivorous. Find proof that we are not.

>>680960396
They do not feel pain, but they do react to simuli. Even if they did feel pain its better to be vegan because animals have to eat 20kg of plants to make 1kg of meat you can last a lot longer on 20 kg of plants then 1kg of meat.

>>680957772
If eating meat is not natural, why do vegans go to such great lengths to make fake meat?

>>680960038
it's not true , omnivore: an animal that feeds on both animal and vegetable substances

and it has to do. u used it as an argument. pigs, cats, dogs, theay all can develope atherosclerosis. if we weren't omnivores we wouldn't have a omnivore mandible. we are not carnivores, but we are definitely not hervibores, just as the closest animals to us

>>680960545
Compared to its prey? They are pretty fucking smart. Most predatorial animals are more intelligent than the surrounding prey.

>>680957772
Every time I see a vegan shitpost on here, I go out of my way to make my next meal as meaty as possible. It's only 6:30 here but in a couple hours I think I'll get steak and eggs from this great brunch spot down the road. Steak rare and eggs sunny side up, of course. Cheers faggot.

>>680957772
to learn to love it over time is literally called stockholm syndrome
I don't want to be able to label myself as mentally challenged

>>680960001
Well to be fair this is old copypasta and just some fat kid having a giggle.

But yeah get what you mean. It's like with anything. Religion, vegans, fags etc. I really don't care what any of them do with their lives but the zealots just ruin everything. And vegans seem to have such a higher percentage of zealots than vegetarians and such.

Like I work in a hospital. We have some vegan and vegetarian Nepalese nurses who I respect because it's a religious thing and they never talk about it. If someone offers meat they'll just say no. Not no I'm a vegan. Just no thanks.
Then we have this bitch called Kate. Literally suburban upper middle class slut who tried replacing the milk in staffroom with soymilk and will cut sick every time she can smell meat. Not angry but super snide about it all. She posts leaflets on the notice board too about it.
Fuck Kate.

>>680960545
So all non-meat eating animals are super clever over-human smartasses?

>>680960736
to encourage retards who eat meat to go vegan you faggot

>>680957772
Because it heavily involves eating beans and they make me fart

>>680960763
I think i have some smoked sausages on my fridge, thanks for reminding me, anon.

>>680960615

>>680960807

>>680959867
you know what i mean, dont be cheeky :)

>>680959875
well i need electronic devices and transport to live. And why does me having 1 laptop mean its ok to cause much more destruction to our enviroment?

>>680960001
>dont tell me facts

>>680960008
not eating animals is not extreme... so life doesnt have intrinsic value can i come murder your whole family or would you reject that reasoning?

>>680960026
you are so dumb man, they get infected because the kids are taken away, they get pregnant way more than they should, and they are filled with drugs. Or do you think wild cows die whenever they lactate?

>>680960141
>if i dont see it then it doesnt happen

>>680960148
yeah all them animals had no point before humans came here, we gave them value because we are here for a reason...

>>680960400
not true

>>680960406
because i hope to reach at least 1 person or make them think about it, i dont do this often

>>680960446
>>680960542
it was cooked food, yes meat played a part in time when we faced shortages but we are past that now..

>>680960669
apart from plants do not have a brain or a nervous system and cannot subjectively experience reality.

>>680958274
vegan brownies are a thing yes

>>680960669
There is the philosophical zombie that postulates exactly that.

>>680957772
Tell me OP, why is it that if a human goes on a strictly vegan diet they die?

Can Vegans eat pussy.. i mean they are pretty meaty

>>680960672
>Humanity did more to make them lunch meat than evolution.
Same thing. Animals change the evolution of other animals. Cattle should thank us, really. We keep their species alive.

>>680957772
Because I don't want to, so fuck off.

>>680960545
Because we are not part of the feline's family, really

>>680957772
I eat vegan when it's not more expensive and taste just as good if not better than real meat. There are many vegan options at my local burger joint that I usually pick because it's honestly just better.

>>680960836
That fucking as stupid as making meat look like vegetables to get vegans to eat meat.

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>>680957772
>Omnivore
Because I'm not a pussy
> natural
Implying I'm not a rapist
> lion
bears
>I like meat
Your meat alternatives are all expensive and/or absolutely fucking disgusting.

>>680960807
No animal can match the intelligence of humans.
It is difficult to compare intelligence inbetween animals.

>>680957772
Because I don't want to learn to love a thing when I can just love the thing I'm already eating.

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VEGAN FAGGIT KYS

/THREAD

>>680957772
>there's lots of plant alternatives and you'll learn to love them over time, that's not an excuse that justifies animals being killed for you
But what if it's my choice to not use alternatives? :^)

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>>680960911
>two word reply
argument discarded.

>>680960911
>can i come murder your whole family
You can try, faggot. But you won't because of the laws in place to stop murder.

>inb4 hurr durr laws against murder = life has intrinsic value
No, it's an agreement to not kill each other because a life has value to the one living it.

The real question is: If animals are not food, then why are they made out of food?

>>680960795
Yeah one of my best friends is vegan. Not for religious reasons in his case but more like OP's gay reasons. Thing is, my friend doesn't talk about it unless we're going out to eat and it has something to do with choice of restaurant (obviously he wants to have a vegan option - that's fair) it unless someone else brings it up first. Otherwise he'll sit across from you and act completely normal while you eat a steak.

>>680960944
did you know everyone who breathes oxygen dies. Oxygen is lethal.

I mean what the fuck are you saying? I could say the same thing about meat eaters. What evidence are you providing.

>>680961076
So y dat fag tells us meat is bad cuz hurrr lions = stupid
Lions eat meat
Omg lol XD ulluminati confirmwd hahaba

>>680960911

>wild cows

there are no wild cows you dumb bastard. not anymore. if we suddenly stopped milking cows the majority of them would end up in horrible pains and dead, fast.

>>680957772
because i do not want to and i enjoy meat. I dont care about alternatives, i want meat not some other shit that is similar. I kill whatever the fuck I want because I can. Fuck you and your fucking animals, go eat your grass shit.
Also, good bait.

>>680961185
/thread.

>>680961027
While most primates are mostly herbivorous they do still eat meat.

>>680958896
I bet you also think it's flat too, you absolute fucking walnut.

>>680959284
The only way i accept people eating meat is because its tasty, saying almost anything else only proves how pathetic you are

>>680961030
what

>>680960388
there are vegan brownies you uneducated nigger

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>>680957772
>male ducks gangbang female ducks

And many human females seek out mutliple mates (read the book "Sperm Wars") this is instinctual amongst almost all animals.

I raise ducks and I can assure you that the male doesn't get on top unless the female holds still and accepts it.

Pic semi-related. These lit fuzz balls are going to be plump, juicy, delicious, and 5-6 pounds on the table 8 weeks from now.

>>680957772
>there's lots of plant alternatives and you'll learn to love them over time, that's not an excuse that justifies animals being killed for you
seriously now, who the fuck cares about some animals that are raised to be eaten? Gtfo you hippie shit

>>680961185
according to your logic humans are made out of food.

>>680960836
The second they read "vegan" on the label they are completly disencouraged.

>>680961246
Well if we're all going to die anyway why would we have a shit life being vegan? :^)

>>680961246
Oxygen toxicity is a thing, ya know

>>680961421
Indeed.

>>680960911
>if i dont see it then it doesnt happen
Well not where the wellness of the animal became part of the food quality
And belive me when I live is strictly followed

>>680957772
Cause cheeseburgers are fucking delicious.

>>680961377
>8 weeks
Really? i thought it would take half a year or something.

>>680961377
Why wait?
Nuggets now!

>>680957772
Cause lm ot an edgy kid who needs to justify itself.
Also l like meat

>>680957772
Because I don't give a shit.
I'd eat you if they wouldn't lock me in a concrete cell for the rest of my life. Actually that would solve half the effects of kuru, too. You'd have very little buildup of heavy metals, so you might be quite healthy to eat. Like a cow.

Suffering and death is part of life. All animals experience this. Why not make your own life more enjoyable, and make use of what lies dead?

>>680961029
good! i hope more people would choose to eat less meat

>>680961443
because you retard, it will help the survival of our own species. earth will last longer and we will have more resources. We can stop wasting resources on torturing animals and eliminate the concept of "third world countries"

>>680961336
exactly

>>680957772
Yes snowflake, you know better than mother nature! we evolved over millions of years eating animal proteins but fuck that lets just start stuffing our faces with nothing but carbs instead!

Enjoy watching your body go to shit, your insulin sensitivity will be the 1st thing to go.

I'd happily eat you as useless libtards like yourself may aswell be used as food although I doubt there's very much meat on you.

>>680957772
We are omnivorous. We have sharp thin teeth for tearing through meat and large blunt molars for eating plants.

>>680957772
The reason why people aren't vegan:
There is no point, you make your life harder and you get literally nothing for it. Why the fuck would you want to eat worse tasting more expensive alternatives to something that you can just go to a shop and buy...

>>680961657
that didnt make any sense

>>680957772
>plant alternatives
I actually happen to love veggie burgers. But I still love real ones too.

>>680961649
so acording to you we have to let animals live and not harvest products from them to have more resources? k lol no more leather, glue, fireworks for you

>>680957772
Vegans are the reason I'm a meat clerk. You don't have to talk to them, you don't have to talk about them, and if they start pulling shit, you kick 'em out of the shop.

>>680958132
That's a fucking lie.
Why would people eat steak if that were true.

I could eat plain cooked venison for every meal.

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>>680958132
>meat does not taste good on its own though

Man, that really sucks that you've never had a good steak before.

>>680961265
none of this justify s causing suffering to sentient beings for fun

why do i fall for this piece of shit bait thread everytime. fuck this. i'm gonna go eat a huge ass burger.

>>680961704
how are you making it harder? food is cheaper and healthier. you benefit the planet, your own health, the animals and if everyone went vegan it would DRAMATICALLY benefit our own species

>>680961649
>implying the majority of our species is worth saving
You are part of the problem.

>>680957772
Raising animals for food is ok so there's no point in being a vegan. If you worry about sustainability, then an hero, please, it's my food's food you're eating.

>>680957772
> >"because we are omnivores"
>we are not, only herbivores, only herbivores can develop atherosclerosis.

You are talking as if you're a creationist. Animals evolve and adapt over time, that's why we still have our wisdom teeth from when we ate rough shit like leaves, roots, nuts and well also meat. But as we continued to evolve and adapt to new diets our jaws got smaller, but our wisdom teeth stayed (since there are no procreatory benefit to losing them). If we eat meat, we are omnivores, it's as simple as that.

>>680961783
>>680961792
Holy hivemind, Batman.

>>680961649
But i don't care about the future

>>680961799
With BBQ sauce?

>>680961707
exactly

>>680961839
no I think our species is shit, and that is why i am trying to change them

>>680961698
>>680961704
this basicly.
you can go vegan but by no means does it mean you should.

humans adapt to the food they eat.
there many viable diets

such as vegan or paileo

as buddisim states part of life is the enjoyment you make out of it...
so you might as well enjoy eating

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>>680958132

>meat does not taste good on its own though

>>680961225
Yeah I get you mate. I got nothing against veganism. It's just a preference and universe is big enough for all preferences. But these days so many vegans are so adamant and vocal it just diminishes the cause. It's like if you had gay guy constantly coming up to you and say why aren't sucking dick instead of eating that pussy? Don't you know the world is overpopulated? You are killing the planet you filthy breeder.

Anyway this thread is just b8 and been posted a hundred times before but still...

>>680961912
Good luck with that snowflake. Tell me how that works out for you.

>>680957772
i have and now fuck off

>>680961912
>implying becoming vegan solves terrorism, wars, mass starvation, summerfags
had a good kek there m8

>>680961749
what the fuck do you need leather for? Glue can be substituted as for fireworks I do not know.

>>680961912
>i am trying to change them
But you will not change anyone

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>>680961896

yes, probably. also lots of cheddar cheese and bacon. and probably caramelized onions and mushrooms.

are you hungry yet?

>>680958215
Why would you even respond to his post?

>>680961225
Thats what most people do, and whenever someone says 'i can eat meat if i want to'. Sure, but you should know what it means. Im not going to constantly tell people what they're doing is wrong, just like i wont tell a smoker what he is doing is wrong. But when they act like they are doing the better thing i can get upset.
I have a friend whom loves meat, and he jokingly says it to me often, but he has admitted many times that veganism is superior in almost every aspect, and understands it. But for him, meat is more important.

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>>680961698
you cannot be that fucking stupid

>>680961995
none of that justified harming animals and our planet for a burger

>>680962107
Dude I eat meat too but that is way too fat for me
A good bistecca alla fiorentina it wold be better for me

>>680957772
>I'm vegan I'm special
>gotta tell everyone
>lol your cancer is killing you
>did i mention I'm vegan and special

Fuck vegans.

Saged

>>680962085
its the otherway around kiddo

>>680957772
do you really have to announce it to everyone?

>>680962085
>hugbox cringe

>>680957772
Because I'm unhappy enough as it is.

>>680962085
This is stupid, it's one thing to argue that you care about animals, so you don't eat them. When you try to control others you're basically Hitler.

>>680961873
Nope. I actively enjoy the flavour of meat. I actually go against social norms, and have my meat so rare it's practically begging for its life. Perfectly caramelised on the outside, warm, but raw in the centre. The texture of the muscle fibres in the state of both cooked and raw, the taste of caramelised complex sugars, everything about meat is glorious.

Why are the herbeaterfucks so aggressive when it comes to eating meat?
Mind your own buisness, if you want to live on leaves I have no problem that you eat my meal's food. What is your problem with me if I fucking eat meat?
Cmon, when you suck dick you substitute it with a carrot or some shit?

>>680957772
>>680957772
>> "because I like the taste of meat"
>there's lots of plant alternatives and you'll learn to love them over time, that's not an excuse that justifies animals being killed for you

Thats just bullshit, the subsituteds taste like shit.

>>680960724
>animals have to eat 20kg of plants to make 1kg of meat you can last a lot longer on 20 kg of plants

Go out and start eating grass then and see how healthy you are after a week.

>>680960911
>can i come murder your whole family

Come give it a whirl and see how far you get past the "Private Road" sign before you're staring down two barrels full of 3" buck shot. The pussy who won't eat an egg is going to come kill me. Nice one.

>>680959127
You're a fucking faggot.

That's all the argument I need.

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>>680962064
guys that is such a negative attitude, i understand change is difficult. but your argument appeals to futility, which means that you dont want to change because you dont think it will make a difference. But if you dont change how can a difference be made?

>>680962255
you are not refuting anything thats said to you, you are just playing the victim. You do know we ate meat as well at some point right?

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>>680962264
oh yeah you guys just proved that picture wrong lol

>>680962341
>I actually go against social norms, and have my meat so rare it's practically begging for its life.
kek

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Vegans are straight up worse than jews because jews are at least smart, we don't need people like this in the gene pool.

>>680957772
Because I don't want to.
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>>680957772
vegans the fucking gayes people on this whole fucking planet kill yourself you worthless piece of shit

>>680962390
you still are not answering the question.

>>680962341
I wasn't disagreeing with you...
I posted the same thing literally 4 seconds after you did.

>>680962085

don't get me wrong, i love a plain steak too.

but when i read these kind of threads i get the urge shove as much meat as i can down my throat.

that sounded gay as fuck.

>>680961995
Because being gay is a choice, where as veganism is factually the right thing to do, i wont pressure people too much, but they should know how meat is produced, and the effects it has on the environment

>>680962390
I am not talking about grass, crops such as soy are fed to animals

>>680959439

What if I enjoy the suffering of others?

I'll never get why people are so principled and extremist with regards to diet

Like I don't eat beef because of how bad cows are for the environment (just look up greenhouse emissions per kg food, beef tops it by miles) but i still eat other meats.

You don't have to go full gandhi to make a reasonably better impact on the world

Because I lost over 100 pounds too fast mainly by counting calories and then some more due to addiction and I'm trying to get back to a good weight and regain some strength. Short answer is to be healthy.

>>680962414
Mediterranean diet>all
I will follow that line

>>680957772
Jesus Christ your here a lot, fuck off nigger. Why are vegans always trying to force that bullshit onto other people. Why dont you fuck off and go to that faggy as vegan cafe in your local town and go jerk off everyone that fucking enters and ho fucking hang yourself.

>>680962206
Apes are also omnivores, they eat insects.

>>680962635
nothing extremist about not killing when there is no need to do so.

>>680962680
waaah vegans are horrible im a victim

>>680962326
If i like something, im not very keen on letting others ruin it.

>>680962680
why are we trying to force it?
because your fucking killing sentient beings, damaging the planet and your own health.
how fucking anti-social and destructive do you have to be to fucking ignore the facts just so you can annoy people

>>680959635
And your whole argument is based on the false premise that this planets current mild state is anything other than part of a cycle that swings from hot and wet to frozen over

Maybe you should think about the long term picture, not the insanely limited human perspective


Also, I eat meat because it tastes great. I don't care about humans suffering in places where choosing a diet is an option so I sure as fuck don't care about animals

>>680962414
I like meat and get off on the fact that something died so I may live. Knowing that the animal gave it's life for me give me all the more pleasure when I consume its flesh.

>>680962414
middle(you)
alright
if i lets say stop eating eggs, it doesnt change the fact eggs still will get laid
if i dont eat meat, the fact remains they still will get slaughtered for leather, becouse lots of products require leather
but then you might say: why not use wool or cotton or even rubber! (depending on the machine)
because it doesn't function as well

Are you single tonight? A lot of beautiful girls waiting for you to http://alonely.ml
.

>>680957772
because i am not a fucking fag

Why have you not gone omnivore yet /b/ ?

> "because we are herbivores"
we are not, only omnivores can develop atherosclerosis
> "eating fruits and vegetables is natural"
rape is also natural, male ducks gangbang female ducks, just because something is natural doesn't make it morally justifiable
> "tell that to a lion"
lions are OBLIGATE herbivores, they cannot survive on meat
> "because I like the taste of fruits and vegetables"
there's lots of meat alternatives and you'll learn to love them over time, that's not an excuse that justifies plants being killed for you

>>680962659
you can do that while being vegetarian, or does that mean you have ''too much going on''?

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>>680957772
>Why have you not gone vegan yet /b/ ?
Because I like eating animals, I like them dead on my plate more than alive on the farm.

>>680960446

because "now that we're smart" to them means since we're already at this point, why keep going?

what they don't understand is the negative effect of a vegan diet can take years to come to effect. People generally swear by the diet for the first 5 years and then all the sudden their body goes to shit and isn't functioning right.

VERY FEW Vegans are Vegans for life. Most end up quietly realizing they were wrong and go back to having a healthy balance of meat.

Your body stores b12 in a reserve that can last for years. Vegans don't eat enough of it to keep their reserves from depleting so after 3-5 years when it runs out the vegan can't figure out why they feel like shit. A vegan diet also leads to decreased brain function from lack of essential nutrients only found in animal fats.

every living organism is made to consume other organisms.

life is not sacred. life is tasty.

>>680962879
if i dont go out nd molest a child then thats fine but it wont stop children from getting molested so whats the point in not doing it

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>>680962538
>Being gay is a choice
>Veganism is factually right
>Not pressuring people too much
Fucking kek, brilliant joke anon

>>680957772
vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm Humans are omnivores. Period. Stop lying to yourselves, and making up evidence. Being vegan is ONLY an ethical choice. Its not generally benefical to your health and it isnt natural diet either.

I am vegan myself because I have a plenty other options to eat. But I would hunt and eat animals if my life was on a stake.

>caring about animals
fuck animals, what did they ever do for me besides being tasty
>caring about the environment
fuck the environment, i'll be dead in 40 years anyways
>b-b-but your kids
if i ever have kids they will have to fend for themselves like i have

>>680960570

looks like Prince and Adolph Hitler had a kid.

>>680962767
Oh, just like how you try to ruin meat? Guess you just have a double standard.

>>680962879
vegan leather works just fine

>>680957772
I'm willing to admit eating meat contributes to animal suffering and all that bullshit. But the real question is who's gonna stop me? The answer is nobody.

>>680962757
I don't mean extremist like that i mean people tend to go fully one way or the other in this aspect of lifestyle which they don't in other areas.

>>680957772
Your brownies look like shit.

>>680962889
This thread needs this

>>680963021
you think veggies, legumes, fruits, nuts, seeds cause disease lol

>>680960545

the females do most of the work and the males get all the credit.

you're right, male lions are brilliant!

>>680957772

how long have you been a vegan for anon? come back again after it's been 5-6 years and tell me how being vegan is working about for you and how many vitamin/food supplements you consume per day.

Vegans are virgins

/thread

>>680963098
WHAT THE FUCK IS VEGAN LEATHER
LEATHER MADE OUT OF PLANTS?
THATS PLANT FIBER
NOT LEATHER JESUS FUCK

>>680963212
That's a misconception

Recent studies show male lions actually do a lot of the hunting too

>>680957772
I'm vegetarian just not vegan, I don't wear leather though.

>>680963219
most people take supplements.

Also you can get everything from plants part from b12, thats because you live in 2016 tho, so you can just drink some soy milk or you can have marmite or other stuff, or take 1 pill.

Better than taking statins later on in life due to cholesterol build up because you have been eating it all your life.

>>680962538
thats only industrialism of the process. if the machines didnt exist humans would still eat meat as we have before if your argument is to be vegan just because it is better for our planet you have lost. humans as a race would not survive with a vegan diet alone we simply cannot produce enough to feed the entirety of humanity. pest, diminishing soil conditions, the fact that you would still need massive machines to produce the food. it would just end up being worse than producing meat for the environment and even more land would need to be cleared just to have more space to plant crops

>>680962834
Again with the sentience bullshit. Last time you spouted that shit I corrected you.
Sentience requires subjective perspective, and a knowledge that your perspective differs from others.

Half the problems with pet health are caused by self-projecting anthropomorphisers like you.

>>680963219
bet you are american

Save the chickens and cows. Both would become extinct without our care and protection. Predators would eradicate these little buttholes. We're doing them a favor by eating them.

>>680957772
why you gotta be hating on the ducks tho

>>680963098

>vegan leather

don't be retarded anon. if it worked just as well it would be used, since it's probably cheaper.

>>680963477
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal-emotions/201306/universal-declaration-animal-sentience-no-pretending

>>680963411
so taking pills is natural now as well?
oh wow
i dint know chemical pills are natural products
where can i buy such a plant?
and you know its hugely unrealistic if everyone goes vegan? thats like saying people stop using guns for war

I've been thinking a bit about honey.

Vegans often use other sweeteners as substitute, typically sugar from cane or beet. There is no doubt that fewer bees are hurt during the sugar-making process -- the lack of direct involvement from bees makes that obvious. However, I do know of people and organizations who sell honey such that every person involved was happy and rewarded; I do not know of any sugar situation that can promise the same.

Vegans, how do you square the treatment of bees against the treatment of humans? What rationale do you use to justify this tradeoff?

>>680958767
Dennison

>>680963047
oh yeah i forgot, homosexualls are born into it arent they
and yes veganism is factually the right thing to do, personally im only vegetarian, because milk and eggs are too tasty and a big part of my diet
And i dont press people, if you consider writing a sentence or two about why its better 'pressuring people' then you might be a bit sensitive, and a bit of a faggot

Because I like meat. I dont need to provide a logical explanation for that anymore then i have to provide an explanation for why i jerk it to prolapsed anuses.