There is no god you fucking faggot

>>680947767
Wrong pic

Holy dubs for God. Check em nonbelievers

>>680948099

Thanks God

>>680948099
Holy moly

>>680947767
Wow...can't even leave a good childhood movie alone, can you you fucking morons?

>>680948099
Trips for satan

>>680948099
>>680947955
>>680948011

3 dubs in a row.

What is this sheeny magic?

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>>680947767
>this fucking circular logic
Christians actually believe this nonsensical garbage.

How the fuck do you always lose. There is no way to lose no matter what... unless you're a nigger.

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>>680947767
>and I've lost nothing

= I see my faith as nothing

>>680947767
Pascals wager is a child's bet, a truly self-serving and immature reason to believe in god. If the only reason compelling you to believe in a higher power is saving your own ass, you are part of the problem with the world.

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>>680947767

What motivates you to post this endless shit? Do you see yourself as some kind of "warrior Christian" working on converting non-believers? Why do it here?

>>680948337


>Athiests believe all Christians believe this logic.

God is something you feel with your soul and see with your eyes all around you in nature.

>>680948546
My only solace will be the day they die and i no longer have to see that faggot fucking face on the front page

>>680948546


>Mad cause he didn't get his superpowers from God.

>>680948623
So if I want to learn about god I should objectively observe reality?

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>>680948623
Incorrect assertion based on indoctrination and lies

or troll

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>>680948099


Thanks God for the dubs. May these heretics burn in an eternal fire

>>680948546
Lel it's just to trigger Dawkinkin butthurt athiests like yourself.

>>680947767
Good job anon. You are getting thru to some people.

>>680948777


God says yes nigger.

>>680948779
Nope, but yeah keep on thinking your a sack made of organic wires you cretin. I bet all the girls love you.

>>680948907
More or less.

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>>680948623
>this nigga
So what you're saying is that God is what people hallucinate when they look at nature.

I believe there is medication for that... because I believe that is called schizophrenia... I think that medicine is called Haldol

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>>680947767
>god doesn't exist
>she loses nothing
Except for a bunch of awesome life experiences she would miss out on that anyone wanting to get into "heaven" would avoid.

>God doesn't exist
>he loses everything
How do they not equally lose nothing?

>>680947767
>I chose to invest on something everlasting."

Neverending if you will.

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>>680948998

You are wrong :)

>>680947767
> Pascal's Wager

Jesus H Q Fucking Christ on a Stick

>>680949218


Lol, no you stupid fuck.

God isn't a hallucination.

If you are a believer in his ways, hes a frequency you tap into.

If you haven't tapped into that frequency then of course you think he doesn't exsist.

If you want to look at reality likes it's a scientific objective that happened through chaos theory, then you will only percieve life in random chaoticness.

But if you percieve life that the possibility of God exsists, you will see it all around you in nature from the way animals come to you, to the way people interact.

Everything happens for a reason and nothing is ever random.

We aren't randomized beings of complexity through the randomness of chaos and nature.

>>680947767
1. Pascal's wager is unethical.
2. No Christian gets into heaven because they hedged their bet and thought the could pull one over on god.
3. It also ignores when your religion allows/dictates that you be a drag on the world.

>if Gods do exist: everyone is fucked, since no omniscient being would be impressed by the primitive animalistic oppressive behavior encouraged by religions dedicated to what humans pitifully imagined God to want during the Bronze Age. Result: no god rational enough to have created this universe would be so petty and judgmental over tiny details of people's relatively meaningless lives.
>if gods don't exist: you've shat up the only world we know for sure anyone actually does get to exist in, furthering ignorance and oppression and poverty and war, ruining and destroying countless people's lives, all to prop up your own romantic deathwish fantasy, that chances are, you inherited from the official ideologies of cultures that self destructed due to them over a thousand years ago already.

No god or gods would be impressed by any of the simple apes running amok on the earths surface currently.

>>680949522
Because he chose to live his life solely the material world. He clung on to what would eventually fade and fought to keep what he could not take with him, and lost it.

She didn't cling to the material world and so lost nothing in the end.

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>>680949724
>God is a frequency
So, I just need a HAM radio to contact God? Why didn't you say that in the first place!

Every time we see this shit we should just post dick pics

>>680949812


God is impressed by the primitive man's capabilities of not succumbing to evil since it's the easiest route to take.

Lying, cheating, stealing, killing are all easy to enact, but the man that isn't tempted in going that route impresses an omnipotent being.

>>680949886
His point still stands. In the negative case, the believer loses the "truth" of his belief.

>>680949971
FUCKING THIS

>>680949898


Yeah mang, it's called love. If you can't feel it, then you can't feel God.

>>680948391
Most people that believe are just scared and want insurance, ain't nothing wrong with that as long as they are a tad bit honest about it.

>>680949724
>unsubstantiated claims of imaginary worlds
>this reality is too difficult to live in it
>so I'll imagine my own realm of existence, with more rainbows, and and butterflies, and frequencies too, you'll see!

Back to the 1970's with your crystals and frequencies you lovable dope.

>>680947767
>I invested in eternity
>I've lost nothing
Pick one

>>680949998
>God is impressed by

How do you know?

>>680950004
And then they die and become dust just like everyone else. No christian can know that God exists, or rather than can't prove it. It's based of faith. If there is nothing more after death they'll never know. They'll fade into oblivion. If there is, they've gained everyting.

>>680950247


God I request dubs to prove this man wrong

>>680950126
A simple hormone level adjustment your brain issues to reward/encourage you to make decisions which lead to reproduction.

A simple, well understood chemical reaction. That's your god. lol

>>680950625
Thou art denied.

>>680950694
God is a drug like heroin is a drug. Its just that junkies don't delude themselves.

>>680950625
>anon: "gerd, plox dubs for holy win
>God: "Arguments from authority are not how you prove things, anon. Thou art musdst maketh thine rational argument."

>>680950625

You can't request anything of God. The fact that you exsist is all that is needed.

>>680950590
There is countless amount of evidence of the paranormal to make you question what you believe in


>>680950481
Imagine if you hosted a gameroom, and set up guidelines on how you wanted people to play. And then there were a couple of trolls that broke the rules and started shitting up the server. You wouldn't like those people very much would you?
And that's God, he's a host of this universe with some moral guidelines and that's how he wants us to be while we're on his hosted server.

>>680950247
There's irrefutable evidence of paranormal activity. If you had a life you can experience it yourself.

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>>680949971

>>680950694


Then why was love developed through evolution?

Checkmate

>>680951060
>imagine...

Exactly. Purely imaginary.
You either can't tell the difference between your imaginary world and the one we actually exist in, or you're rejecting reality for your imaginary fantasy.

Not sure which is worse, but it's your problem to work out.

>>680947955
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>>680949655


4 dubs for nonbelievers versus
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>>680951288

5 dubs and a trip for God.

Athiests btfo

>>680947767
> 2016
> still using Pascal's wager

Riddle me this: What's worse?

Not believing in a god that does exist?

Believing in the wrong god?

Don't know about you, but I'd rather wind up in front of a god
having to explain, "Sorry, I didn't know you were real." than
having to explain, "Sorry, I totally believed this bullshit some
shitfuck priest told me. I spent my life following a false god."

> The irony of Pascal's Wager, as bullshit as it is, still working out in the atheist's favor...

Pascal's wager completely falls apart once you realize there are more religions than Christianity
and more god beliefs than Jehovah, Yahweh, etc.

>>680951331


To quote Einstein
"Imagination is more important than knowledge."

So are you saying you are smarter then Einstein?

>>680951288
Because the other results or options weren't viable and
therefore were weeded out over time.

Seriously, how fucking hard is it to understand how evolution
works? Why is "change over time" more magical than
"big sky daddy did it with mud and ribs"?

Fuck's sake...

>>680951857
Yes, that was my point. I think I was pretty clear when I came out and said exactly that.

>>680951857
Einstein also said the universe was static. Unchanging.

Turns out he was wrong. Dramatically wrong.

And yeah, I do think I'm smarter than Einstein on certain topics.
In fact, I'm certain I am. As are many others. But even if I wasn't,
that doesn't make everything he said correct.

>>680951896


So a chemical reaction that gives people good feelings was an evolutionary process that weeded out all the other biological hormonal changes that used to exsist?


So we are monekys that evolved with 5 fingers and the ability to love from your definition.

Tbh that sounds retarded.

>>680951703
Have you ever seen or read life of pi? I've never read the book myself, but I loved the film (loved the use of CGI even though I'm not usually a fan of overused CG in films). Pi has a very interesting idea about 'god'. The visits multiple holy buildings and talks to religious authorities from multilayer religions and finds in them, a common god. Even though he was told differing things by these people, he still believes that God exists by finding him for himself. I thought it was interesting.

>>680951175
>Upper body of a 12 year old boy
>lower body of a 40 year old hairy manbeast

Omg anon, you've found Pan.

lol that's one god that actually exists!

>>680952115


But have you opened up the possibility that you are dramatically wrong about God existing as well?

I don't see any dubs from you.

Man I cant even imagine being so unloved that i would become an athiest

>>680947767
Thats not what they said in the movie faggot

>>680952541
I think the faggot knows.

>>680951175
twink top, butch bottom?

>>680952299
That's not interesting at all.
It's exactly what Constantine had the Council of Nicaea do in the creation of Christianity, and look what a fucking messy unstable hodgepodge shitshow it resulted in. Mashups of existing power/wealth hierarchies, when those hierarchies are based in primitive ignorance and savagery, only serve to protect them and their moral dominance, not to carefully craft a more positive, constructive ethical framework to live and live well by.

Philosophy > Religion

>>680952183
> chemical reaction that weeded out all other hormonal changes

When the fuck did I say that? Holy shit, anon, can you even read?

> that sounds retarded

It only sounds retarded if you're unable to grasp simple
concepts. Like change over time and what "love" actually is.

It doesn't matter how much you keep trying to apply this
nebulous definition to love. It's not some magical 'thing' that
just happens. It's a chemical process within the brain. It's the
end result of a multitude of factors, all of which evolved over time
and formed from both simple and complex reactions within the brain.

Love is only a word. What it describes is a natural process. It's not magical.

It IS important. It's crucial to current human development, even. But it's not magical.

>>680952183
Actually when the homo erectus started to walk up rigth males couldnt just hump every female they wanted like animals. So they had to focus in just one female and give her food and stuff so that she would let them fuck her. The males that did this were the ones that reproduced more so they passed their genes to more children that will also do this

>>680952882
Religion fits into Philosophy more than you may realise.

>>680952115
> don't see any dubs from you

Aw, and you were doing so well. You just went and
gave yourself away. You should have tried harder.
Kept a straight face.

> opened up to the possibility

You'll find most atheists are, as most are Agnostic Atheists.

Only morons claim to be Gnostic Atheists.

Regardless, the possibility of a thing existing does NOT
mean that thing does exist, nor does it mean we
should have any rational reason to believe that it does.

>>680952994
Actually, genetics indicates they did hump every female they had the chance to, and continue to til today, but the ones that stuck around and provided had more successful offspring than the enormous single-mom crowd. We are the result of both intermixing forever. Also concealed ovulation factors in.

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>Pascal's wager

>>680952898


It's basically what you implied from the intonation of your words.

And secondly, to say that there isn't any God is to say with confidence that you have experienced what is outside this universe, which is something you cant fathom since there is no way that a bunch of ancestors of monkeys on a random rock can actually reach.

>>680947767
>Bastian "which god? What r his rules for getting to heaven? How do u know what r the rules? How do u know there is heaven?"

>>680949724
The frequency is 144.75
no problem

Harlequin ichthyosis and bone cancer in children. If god made the universe and everything in it, he made it possible for some people to live short, horrible, pain filled lives.

If god exists as an all knowing all powerful all loving being, he would understand and sympathize with people that doubt his existence because of such horrible things. So there should be no punishment for not hailing him or doubting his existence because he should understand why we wouldn't.

>>680953071
Don't assume I wasted years of my life studying philosophy and have no idea of the tenuous, disasterous interrelationship of philosophy and religion and all resulting implications and gorey bloodbaths.

Religion is not philosophy.

>>680953289
Well i saw that in a documentary like two years ago so i didn't reminded the whole thing but what you said also proves my point

>>680947767
I cannot choose to believe in god, I simply don't.
It's like trying to convince myself that 2+2=5, it's just not happening.

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>>680952299
I have. And to be honest, it wasn't that interesting.

It was an overdramatized look at a man's search for his own
personal god. And he finds this personal god by picking
and choosing the aspects of many different religions that he finds admirable.

It's a guy deciding he wants to believe in a god, but doesn't
like what most religions offer. So he just makes one up based on
the bits he DOES like from those religions.

It's like watching a bad writer copy ideas from the worst pop novels
of the day so that he can try to write his own popular novel.

Pi basically tries to become a Deist, but winds up as a Theist with
a god of one.

>>680953227

Look here you charlatan.

>>680953544
Dubz, where is yours ?


Believers +9044333333

Athiests -3222233455666655

>>680947767
earth is a shithole
god is capable of everything and its good.
im still dont understand why people believe on him
the only plausible stuff are these.
>God doesnt exist
>God is not omnipotent.
these are the best possible scenarios.

>God doesnt care about humans
if i knew it exists but do not care, i would worry about bible not being about us, but another race that look like us, and we actually misunderstood the bible to believe that we are the human race and the bible its about god and us.
>God hate humans
this actually would explain why there are soo many lethal viruses that spread throught air or mosquitoes and earthquakes and all the natural dissasters that happen in the world.

i cant really prove god exist, but i can probably assume that one of these are the real one.

>>680953071
Religion utilizes bits of (mostly old, shitty, destructive) philosophy for its own means and ends. So do serial killers. It doesn't mean serial killers fit into philosophy. Religion is a parasite on philosophy's back, no matter how those cunts try to misuse philosophy to support their unsupportable dogma.

>>680952301
PRAISE BE UPON HIS HOLY DICKNESS!

LET HIS HOLY SEED RAIN DOWN UPON US!

>>680953715
Yep, it just clarifies and adds to it a little.

see? Pascal's Wager fallacy replaces logic with fear, and totally bipasses the unspoken assumption that we shouldn't believe in narratives that don't reflect the world.

You could use Pascal's wager to believe in anything that was unfalsifiable but evoked an unfalsifiable fear or threat.

But go ahead and believe. Because when the purge comes, it is easier to find you.

See how it works?

Let's be honest: who thinks that this world is the best world of all possibles?
For me it looks like it's the creation of a retarded apprentice. I cannot believe that if a benevolent god exists he wants us to live in this shithole.
Therefore, if a god exists, he does not care about us at all. And why should I care for him in any way?

>>680947767

But what if there's a god who rewards me for not believing in god?

>>680948623
No, that's nature, our original home, and the brain getting sentimental about being home. Give nature it's due.

When a person does a good thing, they did that good thing. Give them their due, not gods either. Just as when people do bad things.

>>680954001
>bible not being about us, but another race that look like us, and we actually misunderstood the bible to believe that we are the human race and the bible its about god and us.
so, how many bongs you hit today anon?

>>680954255


God has spoken, heretics btfo for milleniums to come!

I'm starting to revel in the unfathomable truth that God has punished the unsactimonious to forever be mastubatory cucks that can never love, or be loved since to them love is just a biological process because of le evolution meme.

Thou who disowns God becomes thine cuckolds that shall forever be preppers of the bulls that allow God to empower them.

>>680953544
> It's basically what you implied

It really wasn't. At all.

Is this really all you can do? Make shit up and act as though I said things I didn't?
Come on, anon. You can do better than that. You gotta bring your A game.

Right now I'm just laughing at you when I should be considering your side of the argument.

Discussions about believes are pointless. Belief is not a choice but rather the result of your experiences. Many people are born into a religion and believe in it for the rest of their lives. Others are led to their belief by key experiences or wishes or fears. Both of these kind of people don't even question their belief and will never change it. Yet they did not choose it.

On the other side, if you are truly open minded and question the things you hold true and if you have a decent amount of reason and logic, then you must come to the result that no one knows shit about the universe and its creation and being agnostic is the best stance one can have at the moment.

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>>680948546
They love trolling

1) The problem with this argument is that it assumes that there is only one valid religion, God, or belief system to choose from, that of Christianity. Well that just isn’t so as there are plenty of religions, Gods, belief systems, and spiritual practices to choose from. In order to apply Pascal’s Wager, one would have to do the same for the other religions and Gods out there, just in case they are true as well, or else suffer the consequences. For instance, the Christian ought to be a follower of Islam too, just in case it is true, lest he/she be sent to hell by Allah, the Islamic God.
2) Also, the second problem is that it assumes that the possibility that the Christian doctrine that “everyone is going to hell unless they become a Christian and accept Jesus as their Savior” is a realistic and significant possibility. Perhaps they think it is even as probable as the possibility that there is no God. However, based on the arguments in this book and in others linked, it should be clear that that probability is pretty much zero by now.
3) Finally, few, if any, disbelievers disbelieve out of choice. It's not as if they know God is really there, but somehow willfully refuse to believe in it (for example, see if you can choose to truly believe that Australia does not exist). Most disbelievers disbelieve simply because they know of no compelling evidence or reasons to believe. If you want to convince unbelievers, show them some good evidence or reasons. Don't just say it's in their best interests to believe even if there is no God. A person cannot sincerely choose to believe in something, just because it is pragmatic to do so. Even if you said all the right prayers and attended church regularly, that would still not be the same thing as believing from the heart, and any real God would obviously see straight through that.

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>>680953994
Where are yours?

Does your lack of dubs mean your god has abandoned you?
Are you just not worthy?
Is it because you're a faggot?
It is, isn't it?

>>680954434
Well then you should be removed from this world.
Honestly. The world is full of people who hate it, who see it as a shithole, and are intent on ruining it for everyone else, unaware of the irony in all that, all because they're convinced that they're just wasting time here on their way to a paradise somewhere else.

Looks like about 6 billion people need to get their wish. Only a well engineered virus can solve what's wrong with humanity.

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Enjoy being reincarnated as a dog because you ate meat your whole life faggot

>>680954727

>A simple hormone level adjustment your brain issues to reward/encourage you to make decisions which lead to reproduction.

>A simple, well understood chemical reaction. That's your god. lol

>Because the other results or options weren't viable and
therefore were weeded out over time.

>Seriously, how fucking hard is it to understand how evolution
works? Why is "change over time" more magical than
"big sky daddy did it with mud and ribs"?

>Fuck's sake...


Back the fuck out Athiest swine

>>680955080


Where are yours you unlucky bull prepper?

Pascal's wager is a shitty argument to try and use to convince people that your mythical sky fairy is real

>>680955334
The first 2 of those quotes are mine.

I'm here to stay.

>>680954001
How can a man who never visits a barber shop claim that his overly long beard is due to thw barber's neglect?

Antireligious creationist here.

>>680955695
Go stand in a pond, weirdo.

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>>680955505
Don't need 'em.

The D is all I need.

>>680955654


Okay, well I need to be prepped and shined for this girl im fucking after lunch. Thou thine do thine prepping?

wat

and now OP will either delete this thread or wait for it to die and post up another with the SAME argument worded slightly differently.

When he does: Remember Kids Pascal's Wager is a flawed and piss poor argument easily debunked by a 30 second google search!

>>680955695
Questions:
Where do you draw the line between biology/natural selection and creation?

How did you come to the conclusion that a deity or deities created everything
without some religious-fuck telling you that's what happened?

>>680955659
Because he doesn't have any money and tries to pay the barber with songs & poorly thought out improvisational skits.

How about you not talk in parables like a fucking crazy old Jew from 1200BC.

>>680955878
>Thou thine do thine

wut

>>680955173
You're full of shit. Honestly.
I try my best to make this world a better place, but it's still a shithole.
>all because they're convinced that they're just wasting time here on their way to a paradise somewhere else.
That does not make sense. That's what christians, jews and muslims do, THEY live for the afterlife, not atheist.

>>680955334
Good job pulling together several separate posts and attributing
them all to me, even though I only typed one of them. Really
gives credence to your counter argument.

Which was what again? Remind me.

> nice greentexting, anon

>>680956243

It was sarcasm.

>>680956391
>Still proved you wrong regardless of placating another posts just as equally retarded as yours

Btw how do you know evolution exists? Did you experience the millions of years of evolution that occurred in the last millions of years through a first-hand accountability?

Evolution has just as much credence as the existence of God. You can't prove or deny one or the other.

How the fuck do you know if the artficats of said early humanoids from millions of years ago were actual humanoids and not monkeys?
For all you know a bunch of limo dick hungry scientists scrapped together a bunch of chicken bone to present them as findinga to get more government funding.

People will make up anything for money, especially soulless athiests that live life devoid of God and are hungry for Quiznos.

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>>680948099
Holy fuck

>>680956259
The world is a beautiful place, of great variety and color. The rivers, the mountains, the plains, the deserts, the beaches, the valleys, the seas, the colorful display of billions of different features, and a dazzling number of environments and microclimates and opportunities for billions of kinds of wildlife of all shapes, sizes, talents, and abilities. The world is not a shithole, it's the most interesting place in the universe we've observed thus far.

Unfortunately it's home to one young species that's just intelligent enough to be dangerous, which appreciates only itself, and has been hell-bent on destroying the world for all, and is finally getting very effective at doing it. All because of cultural ideologies from the stupid ages it should be smarter than to subscribe to. That is a shit species.

Humans are not the world.

>>680957020


To add on, there is more claims that God exsists then there are claims to evolution existing.

>Hurdur im a scientist, I need money. I know, I'll have a bunch of other hungry scientists back up my claims and we will all secure government funding and ball like Bell Air off the dumb bitches in the free money's department.

>>680957020
>But how do you know evolution exists?
Genetics.

>>680956259
>but this dunnot make teh sense
>tfw you discover you're arguing from the same position as your ignorant superstitious gullible opponents.

>>680953575
undisputed
/thread

>>680957499
>How do you know God exists?
Theology

we are all god. we come from nothing and nothing is everything.

>>680957499


How do you know they exsist if you can't see it?

>>680948509
That... just doesn't make sense at all
People should take care of themselves and serve their own interests
But even then, the Bible is about submitting to God and being good to other people
and even then, I don't really see how you can say Pascal's wager is self-serving and immature

>>680958040
And man went on to prove that black was white and white was black and they all were run over at the next zebra crossing.